That was exactly my point. NSA's modifications
can be public domain, while the projects themselves remain GPL. The NSA owns their patches,
so they can release under as many licenses as they
wish.
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Actually, what Ballmer is saying (in an inflamatory, and overly-broad way) is that the US government should not modify or contract modifications to GPL (or other GPL-like) licensed work, and I agree.
There is nothing wrong with the government dual
licensing modification in GPLed software. It could be under the GPL to conform with the GPL's
requirements, and public domain so that anybody
can use it with whatever software they wish. Where's
the problem with that?
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Amusement parks don't make mpeg movies for people,
they make still shots. If they only wanted to make still shots available on the web, they probably could have gotten by with a couple of
machines. But they were making individual movies
for people. Picking out the correct frames and then mpeg encoding them is computationally expensive. Hence the cluster of 45 machines.
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Re:Linux advocacy: VR3 framework for the Desktop?
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Well, yet another reason to use Debian. Official
Debian packages that contain user X-apps are supposed to add them to the
menu. If you've found
one that doesn't, file a bug.
Doesn't Red Hat have a similar system? If not, then I agree, you should bug Red Hat to implement a system.
And as for third packages, if they don't support menu systems, etc., you should ask them to
(file a bug, contact the developers, whatever).
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Re:Linux advocacy: VR3 framework for the Desktop?
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No one wants to tar -zxvf foo.tar.gz ; cd $foo ;./configure ; make ; make install its too cumbersome and difficult for cluebies as opposed to something like MS' self installing executables.
What are you talking about? Isn't this what packages are for? Is it really that hard to type
"dpkg -i foo.deb" (or whatever the rpm equivalent is)? Or use a GUI frontend that does the
equivalent?
Sure there are small projects out there that don't
have pre-compiled binaries available, but most reasonably popular projects have packages available. And packages are more powerfully than
your average self-installing executable.
This is one area where it seems to me Linux
is doing fine. Sure, it might be nice to have a
new format unifies rpms and debs, but its not a
critical need. And the GUI package managers
probably could use some improvement, but most
of them are in pretty decent shape.
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Well my analogy may be bad, but yours is worse;).
There's nothing unethical about using a script
that someone gives you, while the same can't be said for copying homework. And since the person
giving the script probably already had it written (I've seen dozens of "add your name to this petition" pages), its not like it would be that much work for somebody to point Bruce to a copy of one. Sending a link or already written script isn't that much more work than lending a pencil.
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Wow, I hit a nerve with Santa... I'd best watch out!
I think most people give and take without money being exchanged a lot more than you imply. If the whole idea of having "communities" or friends that you've only met online bugs you, well, I think its your loss.
As for hero worship, spare me. I would've posted something similar even if it had been an
some anonymous slashdot poster. Asking for a simple
cgi script on slashdot is like asking to borrow
a pencil in high school. Not a big deal.
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Well, of course there are problems with some moderators using moderation to push their
agenda, instead of rewarding good arguments.
I don't think the problem is as bad as you make it
out to be, though. On threads where anti-Microsoft stuff comes up, there are still
plenty of Microsoft arguments that get modded up.
And even some Creationist arguments get modded up.
The problem with the Creationism/Evolution arguments is that they can get very emotional. And moderators are a lot more likely to mod down
emotional arguments, than logical ones.
Also, I'd be awfully surprised if Christians
aren't a large majority on slashdot. Of course
strict Biblical interpretation fundamentalist
Christians aren't the majority, but if you use an
inclusive definition, Christians are in the majority.
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No, of course that's not what he's advocating.
His next paragraph is:
Maybe it's not such a great loss for you or me; we're not great writers anyway, and if we censor ourselves before hitting Save, maybe that's not the end of the world. We weren't really going to use that First Amendment right anyway, you know?
He's trying to show what a slippery slope this
is. Cases like this won't affect most of us
directly, so we won't do anything about it. The point is that the importance of the First Amendment comes from its protection of inflamatory, unpopular, or dangerous speech. Those of us who only speak in bland centrist platitudes don't really need the protection of
the First Amendment. But if we don't fight to support it, the power of the First Amendment will
not be as strong when the day comes when we need it.
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Right Mr. Santa, because you know Bruce has never
contributed anything. All he has ever done is ask
people to do the work, and then sit back and rake in the millions.
And besides which no one around here has ever written any CGI. In fact, I'm sure there aren't dozens of people who have scripts laying around
that would do exactly this job. No definitely, not.
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There are already 5 forces by most count. Gravity,
weak, magnetic, electric, and strong. Oh course,
the forces have been unified in various ways, but
in many circumstances it still makes the most sense to talk about 5 forces.
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Except, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread (and
in
this article) the patent was applied for several years after the source for cddb
was released. Either patent shouldn't have been
granted to begin with, or FreeDB doesn't infringe on it.
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Freedb have in effect written their own version of cddb with the same interfaces, and Roxio are using their existing technology to access freedb.
This post shows a lack of knowledge of the history
of CDDB. CDDB started out as free started out as
a way for xmcd (which is GPLed) to recognize the
CD that you were palying. CDDB grew into its own
separathe project used by many CD players and rippers. The database grew large through the work of thousands of listeners who entered the data
for CDs. Then CDDB's developers decided that they could make money off of CDDB, so they formed
a company. Then they sold out to Escient
bought CDDB. Escient then started to turn
the database against the users. First, they
required programs using the database
display their logo. This behavior precipitated the start of a
free CDDB work alike
database, which eventually became
called FreeDB.
Gracenote isn't simply trying to protect their
software, they trying to take back what the original CDDB developers gave. And they're trying to make money off of us poor fools who helped them populate the CDDB database.
So, I say support FreeDB and anyone who fights
Gracenote.
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Thanks, very interesting. (Hmmm. Now I'm wondering if Haliburton's more into the nuclear power business than Occidental?)
No, nuclear is just the Republicans' fall guy. They can pretend like they support it, but then
"compromise" and drop their support. While,
of course, their friends in fossils fuels will still get their perks.
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One of the biggest problems with wind and solar
is the lack of decent power storage options. When
the Sun goes down (or the wind stops), you lose
your solar (or wind) power. And current storage
technologies just aren't up to snuff. So base line power from other sources is needed. And right now the choices are pretty much limited to
fossil fuels and fission nuclear plant.
Also, there is waste from the production of solar poweer - chemical waste from producing solar
cells. You'd be surprised how nasty production
process for solar cells is. And hydro power leaves waste, too. The environment around hydro
plants is wasted.
As Heinlein said, TAANSTAAFL! (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch!)
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Debian on Sparc works well. Of course there
are issues in unstable and testing, but that is
to be expected. And in general there isn't as
much support for the Sparc port by third parties
as for x86, but the Sparc port is in pretty good
shape. For more general Sparc Port info take a
look at the Ultra Linux site.
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I agree $100 million/mile is ridulous, even for
NYC. Somebody
screwed up a decimal place somewhere. When they
talk a about building a new stadium for the
Yankees, the total cost is less than $1 billion.
So which would rather have a new stadium, or 10 miles of cable?
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Slashdot Mirror
Yes.
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Well, this trailer is available as a downloadable .rm, and not just a stream, so you can download it
once and watch it many times.
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The Real Player for Sparc Solaris is pretty much equivalent to the one for Linux. I watched this trailer with it and it worked fine.
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That was exactly my point. NSA's modifications can be public domain, while the projects themselves remain GPL. The NSA owns their patches, so they can release under as many licenses as they wish.
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There were plenty of trolls before user ids started around here. They were part of the reason ids were started.
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Amusement parks don't make mpeg movies for people, they make still shots. If they only wanted to make still shots available on the web, they probably could have gotten by with a couple of machines. But they were making individual movies for people. Picking out the correct frames and then mpeg encoding them is computationally expensive. Hence the cluster of 45 machines.
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Doesn't Red Hat have a similar system? If not, then I agree, you should bug Red Hat to implement a system.
And as for third packages, if they don't support menu systems, etc., you should ask them to (file a bug, contact the developers, whatever).
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Sure there are small projects out there that don't have pre-compiled binaries available, but most reasonably popular projects have packages available. And packages are more powerfully than your average self-installing executable.
This is one area where it seems to me Linux is doing fine. Sure, it might be nice to have a new format unifies rpms and debs, but its not a critical need. And the GUI package managers probably could use some improvement, but most of them are in pretty decent shape.
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Well my analogy may be bad, but yours is worse ;).
There's nothing unethical about using a script
that someone gives you, while the same can't be said for copying homework. And since the person
giving the script probably already had it written (I've seen dozens of "add your name to this petition" pages), its not like it would be that much work for somebody to point Bruce to a copy of one. Sending a link or already written script isn't that much more work than lending a pencil.
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Or even better you could set your programs to the closest mirror of freedb to help level out the load.
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I think most people give and take without money being exchanged a lot more than you imply. If the whole idea of having "communities" or friends that you've only met online bugs you, well, I think its your loss.
As for hero worship, spare me. I would've posted something similar even if it had been an some anonymous slashdot poster. Asking for a simple cgi script on slashdot is like asking to borrow a pencil in high school. Not a big deal.
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Also, I'd be awfully surprised if Christians aren't a large majority on slashdot. Of course strict Biblical interpretation fundamentalist Christians aren't the majority, but if you use an inclusive definition, Christians are in the majority.
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And besides which no one around here has ever written any CGI. In fact, I'm sure there aren't dozens of people who have scripts laying around that would do exactly this job. No definitely, not.
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Well, I always hear about electroweak, strong, and gravity myself. Guess it depends on the physics subculture one moves in.
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There are already 5 forces by most count. Gravity, weak, magnetic, electric, and strong. Oh course, the forces have been unified in various ways, but in many circumstances it still makes the most sense to talk about 5 forces.
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Except, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread (and in this article) the patent was applied for several years after the source for cddb was released. Either patent shouldn't have been granted to begin with, or FreeDB doesn't infringe on it.
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While this was happening, Escient (later called Gracenote), became more and more predatory. They require programs to not allow use of FreeDB and they've teamed with Napster to identify copyrighted tracks.
Gracenote isn't simply trying to protect their software, they trying to take back what the original CDDB developers gave. And they're trying to make money off of us poor fools who helped them populate the CDDB database.
So, I say support FreeDB and anyone who fights Gracenote.
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Tell that to the salmon.
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Nobody (at this moment at least). Gaijin99 has enough karma to post at 2 by default.
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Also, there is waste from the production of solar poweer - chemical waste from producing solar cells. You'd be surprised how nasty production process for solar cells is. And hydro power leaves waste, too. The environment around hydro plants is wasted.
As Heinlein said, TAANSTAAFL! (There ain't no such thing as a free lunch!)
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Debian on Sparc works well. Of course there are issues in unstable and testing, but that is to be expected. And in general there isn't as much support for the Sparc port by third parties as for x86, but the Sparc port is in pretty good shape. For more general Sparc Port info take a look at the Ultra Linux site.
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I agree $100 million /mile is ridulous, even for
NYC. Somebody
screwed up a decimal place somewhere. When they
talk a about building a new stadium for the
Yankees, the total cost is less than $1 billion.
So which would rather have a new stadium, or 10 miles of cable?
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