Not true. There is the Qtopia image maintained for the openmoko, and is currently kludged into the main images, but the project as a whole is moving to enlightenment (though the Qt and GTK libs don't look like they're going anywhere. however, E = teh shiney).
See the FSO distribution to see where openmoko is going.
I actually own one, and I'm pretty enthusiastic about on a practical level. Orrery, the star-map application is fun, Duke 3d, the whole "make a quick application with python + gtk (or e, or qt, it's all there), and if I were to repurpose a phone, there really is no point in using anything else.
Pro tip: For home automation, ReMoko may be half of what you need already.
If your friend is having a hard time using it may I suggest the FDOM (fat and dirty openmoko) image? It's got alot of applications pre-installed, plus some hacks to make it more "daily phone" worthy.
tangoGPS may be what you're looking for. It runs on linux, (most notably OpenMoko's Neo Freerunner) and I find it to be rather slick. Shouldn't be much of a porting job (more of a recompiling job, if anything), as it already runs on ARM, and uses GTK.
I wasn't aware that generations are reducing the screen resolution as time goes by...
Openmoko: 640x480 (mmm... full vga goodness)
iPhone/G1: 320x480
And actually, I've found the software to be improving rabidly (I use it as a daily phone), and there is a fairly large community behind this project (PS, DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D have already been ported). If you don't want to jump on the bandwagon, you're missing out.
Neo Freerunner owner here. Contrary to what some people are saying (who apparently don't own one. As if an emulator, based on a very old image, will give you an accurate feel for the device. Both the FSO and ASU images are awesome), I find the device to be well worth having. I ported a few of my funner software demo's do it, have fun writing apps in python, get access to GTK, ETK and QT libs for development, have a *full* *unrestricted* Linux distro to enjoy, and as a side benefit, I use it as my daily phone. Sure, this release is not something for you're a grandma, but makes one heck of a fun hacking platform.
You could argue that people who read slashdot are more inclined to only have technical skills without people skills, but that still doesn't prove that the two don't exist in individuals elsewhere. It's true that the two set's CAN be exclusive, but that doesn't mean they HAVE to be, and (inserting useless anecdotal evidence here) I have know a good many people (bosses, mentors) who prove that those two can coexist within one mind. If you haven't encountered this, then you need to leave your computer for a while. Meet people, not usernames.
"To answer to your first analogy, the keys to your house do not prove in any way that you are the owner of the house."
So you agree? The keys to software do not prove you are the owner of the software? Then why are we arguing...
"what is really important are a few sheets of paper. Those sheets of paper are what represent the ownership of your house. If you lose those, if your notary also lose its copy, and if the city lose its records, than you are in deep trouble (Real estate ownership disputes are not rare - one of my client is a notary)."
Like, my reciept, my online account that has the software key that was paired to the dongle (plus updates!) - (note: also not like a $100 bill: if I lose a $100 bill, someone else can use it. not so with dongle), plus the software. And you're right, the CD's aren't my proof of purchase. Neither is the dongle. That's called a reciept [wikipedia.org], which I mention having. And then you go on further to complain about DRM.
It's strange. You logically agree with me, but for some strange reason refuse to acknowledge your own conclusions.
Rant:
"Again, you were the owner of only a right to use it..." - then why do they keep insisting on calling it "intellectual property"?
If you lost you're keys would you expect to buy a new house? Hardly. It's more like, if you lose a small piece of a $100 bill would you expect to have it replaced? The answer is Yes. I didn't loose the software, it's in a box, sitting next to me, along with a few books on the topic. I still have my account which provides me with access keys to the software, and when I upgrade to v10 I'll probably bite the extra $400 to get "full" version instead of the upgrade that comes with a shiney new dongle (I wonder if wine will have USB support by then...).
First of all, lumping all slashdot readers and posters into the same group is a logical fallacy, so I'll ignore that.
Personally bitten me? My purchased copy of LightWave 9.0 (and that is way more expensive than a video game, believe me). Comes with a hardware dongle, which is small, tiny, necessary, and easy to lose. For a while I was "in between computers" and had my hardware dongle on a keychain, and the software on my external harddrive. Lost the keychain, and am now quite tied to my new box (mmm... dual quade-core opterons...). Seems that thanks to "copy protection" I am unable to get a new dongle without re-purchasing (expensive!) software. All I have to say is, yay pirates[1].
I agree, don't BOYCOTT developers, as this further puts them under the illusion that piracy is killing their business model (like boycotting the RIAA), but certainly make them aware of your opinion on how annoying DRM truly is (similar to how we complain about lack of linux support).
1. (On a side note, cracking lightwave made my decision to make this box linux only much easier this time, as it was the one thing I needed windows for, and lightwave runs quite will in WINE, IMO)
Let's see... DRM doesn't work, and discourages legitimate customers... while those who pirate the game don't even notice (as it's been removed).
Pirates obviously don't care about DRM, as it doesn't affect them. Asking them to care is pointless.
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fixed that for ya ;)
well, now I know what follows arrogance: optimism.
Wireless keyboard much?
Will not search and replace, will only output changed text to STDOUT. Your files themselves remain unchanged.
It's true. I just found out about this last week. Makes using the terminal on my neo freerunner... tolerable.
I see now that I was wrong. Thank you for your excellent explanation.
Those machines are not on the internet, they connect to the internet.
No.
The OpenMoko project is also switching to Qt,
Not true. There is the Qtopia image maintained for the openmoko, and is currently kludged into the main images, but the project as a whole is moving to enlightenment (though the Qt and GTK libs don't look like they're going anywhere. however, E = teh shiney). See the FSO distribution to see where openmoko is going.
I actually own one, and I'm pretty enthusiastic about on a practical level. Orrery, the star-map application is fun, Duke 3d, the whole "make a quick application with python + gtk (or e, or qt, it's all there), and if I were to repurpose a phone, there really is no point in using anything else.
Pro tip: For home automation, ReMoko may be half of what you need already.
If your friend is having a hard time using it may I suggest the FDOM (fat and dirty openmoko) image? It's got alot of applications pre-installed, plus some hacks to make it more "daily phone" worthy.
Yup, I can see ISP's all over investing money to keep them from doing things with your data.
tangoGPS may be what you're looking for. It runs on linux, (most notably OpenMoko's Neo Freerunner) and I find it to be rather slick. Shouldn't be much of a porting job (more of a recompiling job, if anything), as it already runs on ARM, and uses GTK.
WTPOYSAIYHTWIANTITEIA? (What's the point of your stupid acronym if you have to write it all next to it to explain it anyways?)
source
Openmoko: 640x480 (mmm... full vga goodness)
iPhone/G1: 320x480
And actually, I've found the software to be improving rabidly (I use it as a daily phone), and there is a fairly large community behind this project (PS, DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D have already been ported). If you don't want to jump on the bandwagon, you're missing out.
Neo Freerunner owner here. Contrary to what some people are saying (who apparently don't own one. As if an emulator, based on a very old image, will give you an accurate feel for the device. Both the FSO and ASU images are awesome), I find the device to be well worth having. I ported a few of my funner software demo's do it, have fun writing apps in python, get access to GTK, ETK and QT libs for development, have a *full* *unrestricted* Linux distro to enjoy, and as a side benefit, I use it as my daily phone. Sure, this release is not something for you're a grandma, but makes one heck of a fun hacking platform.
You could argue that people who read slashdot are more inclined to only have technical skills without people skills, but that still doesn't prove that the two don't exist in individuals elsewhere. It's true that the two set's CAN be exclusive, but that doesn't mean they HAVE to be, and (inserting useless anecdotal evidence here) I have know a good many people (bosses, mentors) who prove that those two can coexist within one mind. If you haven't encountered this, then you need to leave your computer for a while. Meet people, not usernames.
Sorry Slashbots but people skills are more important than tech skills and always will be.
I would like to see you back up your implication that those two skill sets are mutually exclusive.
"To answer to your first analogy, the keys to your house do not prove in any way that you are the owner of the house." So you agree? The keys to software do not prove you are the owner of the software? Then why are we arguing...
"what is really important are a few sheets of paper. Those sheets of paper are what represent the ownership of your house. If you lose those, if your notary also lose its copy, and if the city lose its records, than you are in deep trouble (Real estate ownership disputes are not rare - one of my client is a notary)." Like, my reciept, my online account that has the software key that was paired to the dongle (plus updates!) - (note: also not like a $100 bill: if I lose a $100 bill, someone else can use it. not so with dongle), plus the software. And you're right, the CD's aren't my proof of purchase. Neither is the dongle. That's called a reciept [wikipedia.org], which I mention having. And then you go on further to complain about DRM.
It's strange. You logically agree with me, but for some strange reason refuse to acknowledge your own conclusions.
Rant: "Again, you were the owner of only a right to use it..." - then why do they keep insisting on calling it "intellectual property"?
If you lost you're keys would you expect to buy a new house? Hardly. It's more like, if you lose a small piece of a $100 bill would you expect to have it replaced? The answer is Yes. I didn't loose the software, it's in a box, sitting next to me, along with a few books on the topic. I still have my account which provides me with access keys to the software, and when I upgrade to v10 I'll probably bite the extra $400 to get "full" version instead of the upgrade that comes with a shiney new dongle (I wonder if wine will have USB support by then...).
First of all, lumping all slashdot readers and posters into the same group is a logical fallacy, so I'll ignore that.
Personally bitten me? My purchased copy of LightWave 9.0 (and that is way more expensive than a video game, believe me). Comes with a hardware dongle, which is small, tiny, necessary, and easy to lose. For a while I was "in between computers" and had my hardware dongle on a keychain, and the software on my external harddrive. Lost the keychain, and am now quite tied to my new box (mmm... dual quade-core opterons...). Seems that thanks to "copy protection" I am unable to get a new dongle without re-purchasing (expensive!) software. All I have to say is, yay pirates[1].
I agree, don't BOYCOTT developers, as this further puts them under the illusion that piracy is killing their business model (like boycotting the RIAA), but certainly make them aware of your opinion on how annoying DRM truly is (similar to how we complain about lack of linux support). 1. (On a side note, cracking lightwave made my decision to make this box linux only much easier this time, as it was the one thing I needed windows for, and lightwave runs quite will in WINE, IMO)
Let's see... DRM doesn't work, and discourages legitimate customers... while those who pirate the game don't even notice (as it's been removed). Pirates obviously don't care about DRM, as it doesn't affect them. Asking them to care is pointless.