He might have just shot a little girl, spit in the cop's face, or jay walked. We have no idea what the context was, so it's hard to pass judgement.
I don't care what he did. The policed are not tasked with punishing the bad guys. He had two big cops sitting on him. He wasn't going anywhere. These cops were big guys. They could have forced his arms together long enough to get the cuffs on him.
Besides, I'm a rarity, a nerd who parties and gets involved with shady people. THeir probably aren't very many people on/. who have ever dealt with the police for more than a speeding ticket.
Fuck that. I'm a geek and I've spent time at parties with of ALL kinds of unsavory characters. From high level drug dealers to Klansmen. I've also had federal agents knocking on my door at 10:00 AM. Those guys were the ultimate professionals. They spoke to me civilly and recieved courtesy from me in return.
Local cops are usually dicks.
I think most people who don't deal with the police very much have a negative view towards them (as brutal or power tripping or whatever) and that is messed up because you are the people the police are protecting.
Who protects us from them? I'm from Pittsburgh, a local radio personality was mistreated in an encounter he had with a police officer. He went on to give the cops badge number and police department over the air. He faced all kinds of threats from police over it. They're a gang. They control their turf and retaliate against anyone who they think have wronged them.
Sooo, support the boys in blue!
I'll volunteer to console their widows when someone blows their faces off.
Enlighten us stupid, poor people on how higher wages are bad for us!
Higher wages for the least skilled of the unskilled is bad for us because everyone making more than the new minimum wage will not get a pay increase and all of the goods/services that depend on minimum wage labor will become more expensive.
OK, so we need a nuclear reactor or giant solar concentrators to crack the water into hydrogen and oxygen. As long as the economies of scale make the end product (they hydrogen) cheap, I don't really care how inefficient the process is to produce it.
You seem to have missed my point.
The original GGP said The day someone figures out how to easily produce hydrogen the days of energy monopolies are over - anyone with access to water (or whatever the raw material turns out to be) can do it.
To which I replied
That's not going to happen. The most plentiful source of hydrogen on the planet is water. No one is going to be able to figure out a system that uses less engerdy to split the molecules than you get in return by burning the hydrogen or using it in fuel cells.
My meaning is that hydrogen may lead to better batteries and a better method of short-term energy storage, but it's not going to end energy monopolies. It's always going to require more energy to crack the molecule that you can get from re-combining it.
We can get hydrogen from fossil fuels, but that still does not mean that energy monopolies are over.
Take hydrogen. The day someone figures out how to easily produce hydrogen the days of energy monopolies are over - anyone with access to water (or whatever the raw material turns out to be) can do it.
That's not going to happen. The most plentiful source of hydrogen on the planet is water. No one is going to be able to figure out a system that uses less engerdy to split the molecules than you get in return by burning the hydrogen or using it in fuel cells.
Can you figure out a way to lift an anvil into the air using less energy than you get by dropping it?
Or maybe businesses will have to make some sacrifices rather than expecting their workers to bend over and take one for the team.
That's not going to happen. Businesses exist to make money. They have obligations to shareholders. If it's possible to maintain current profit levels without breaking the law, they are OBLIGATED to do so. If that means that they have to raise prices, they will do it.
Nope. More money in the hands of the lower class = more consumer spending = more business for any business. Or as Kennedy put it, "a rising tide lifts all boats."
If you are currently making $7.10 per hour and the minimum wage is $5.15, you are making nearly $2.00/hr more than the minimum wage. If the minimum wage is raised to $6.10, you will then be making $1.00/hr more than minimum wage.
While modern day eugenicists might all too eagerly read into these findings to draw their own politically biased conclusions...
Eugeneticists may use this information to claim the superiority of Europeans, a counterpoint can be made that these people can't be superior because were having sex with sub-humans.
That woul d be the ultimate up-yours, especially if the Dems get both tight races left - as his switch would put it at 50-50
That's not possible.
It took me 20 minutes to explain this to my girlfriend last night. One house seat is in the "I" column. If Lieberman were to switch(which he won't) it would switch the Senate balance from 50(D)/49(R) to 49(D)/50(R).
Yeah, those silly Democrats. They're not happy if Republicans steal an election with paper ballots, they're not happy if Republicans steal them with electronic ballots. How do they want you to steal them, eh?
I don't know if you merely misunderstood his point or if you are intentionally not getting it.
In 2000, the Democrats said that the Republicans stole the election because of the confusing butterfly ballots and that we needed a new and modern way of voting. Now that we have it, Democrats are hedging their bets by planting the seed in people's minds that the Republicans are poised to steal more elections using the system that they themselves demanded.
It smacks of arrogance. These people honestly believe that they only way that they can possibly lose is if the opposition cheats. It's like when a child refuses to take responsibility for any of his own actions by blaming everyone else when he gets into trouble.
Well, if you ask me, the deal is that the Bush machine is getting ready to pull some fast ones tomorrow, and they expect they're going to have some peculiar "upsets" that need to be explained away, so they're sending folks like yourself around to soften up the crowd in advance.
Is it really that unbelievable that there are actually people out here who don't vote the same way that you do? Is it really that unbelievable to you that roughly 50% of the American electorate feels differently about the issues than you do?
People are different, they have different goals, dreams and ideals. As incredible as many people seem to find it, but there are millions of us who will be voting (mostly) for Republicans tomorrow. It's not because we think that the Republicans are ideal, but because we think that the Republicans are a better choice than the only other party that has a chance of winning.
There is no need for paid operatives to infiltrate Slashdot, K5 and where ever else geeks like us congregate online. There are millions of us who vote Republican.
Aw, poor baby. You might lose some karma.
And you're a real paragon of bravery for posting material that defames Republicans in a forum where there is a clear pro-Democrat bias.
This is a very stark contrast to Gentoo's "bleeding edge" approach. Even the "stable" tree of gentoo is considered bleeding edge by most standards in a network OS.
Sigh...
"Bleeding edge"
We're talking about computers and software, not motorcycles and muscle cars.
I suppose that bleeding edge could refer to those cheap cases that don't have any of the sheet metal folded to protect our fingers, but seriously does all of this "extreme" bullshit have to happen here too?
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Especially as you don't know what kind of diseases were passed along to said widow by Mr. Blueboy...
I wasn't talking about doing anything myself, I was talking about referring them to select lonely gentlemen for a commission.
LK
After the entire rodney king video was put out there, it was clear that he earned his beating. he struck first, twice
Rodney King lunged at the cops, but he did not hit them. He earned himself a jolt with a taser, but not a 57 strike beating.
If you know your rights and don't break laws, cops will not treat you badly.
This is simply not true. I have personally been the subject of bad treatment and verbal abuse from cops.
Tazers are making that job much more humane. A quick jolt to burn off all the energy in the violent suspect saves beating like this.
I submit that, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
LK
He might have just shot a little girl, spit in the cop's face, or jay walked. We have no idea what the context was, so it's hard to pass judgement.
/. who have ever dealt with the police for more than a speeding ticket.
I don't care what he did. The policed are not tasked with punishing the bad guys. He had two big cops sitting on him. He wasn't going anywhere. These cops were big guys. They could have forced his arms together long enough to get the cuffs on him.
Besides, I'm a rarity, a nerd who parties and gets involved with shady people. THeir probably aren't very many people on
Fuck that. I'm a geek and I've spent time at parties with of ALL kinds of unsavory characters. From high level drug dealers to Klansmen. I've also had federal agents knocking on my door at 10:00 AM. Those guys were the ultimate professionals. They spoke to me civilly and recieved courtesy from me in return.
Local cops are usually dicks.
I think most people who don't deal with the police very much have a negative view towards them (as brutal or power tripping or whatever) and that is messed up because you are the people the police are protecting.
Who protects us from them? I'm from Pittsburgh, a local radio personality was mistreated in an encounter he had with a police officer. He went on to give the cops badge number and police department over the air. He faced all kinds of threats from police over it. They're a gang. They control their turf and retaliate against anyone who they think have wronged them.
Sooo, support the boys in blue!
I'll volunteer to console their widows when someone blows their faces off.
LK
Ice-T did Cop Killer with Body Count. It was NWA that did Fuck Tha Police.
LK
Enlighten us stupid, poor people on how higher wages are bad for us!
Higher wages for the least skilled of the unskilled is bad for us because everyone making more than the new minimum wage will not get a pay increase and all of the goods/services that depend on minimum wage labor will become more expensive.
LK
OK, so we need a nuclear reactor or giant solar concentrators to crack the water into hydrogen and oxygen. As long as the economies of scale make the end product (they hydrogen) cheap, I don't really care how inefficient the process is to produce it.
You seem to have missed my point.
The original GGP said
The day someone figures out how to easily produce hydrogen the days of energy monopolies are over - anyone with access to water (or whatever the raw material turns out to be) can do it.
To which I replied
That's not going to happen. The most plentiful source of hydrogen on the planet is water. No one is going to be able to figure out a system that uses less engerdy to split the molecules than you get in return by burning the hydrogen or using it in fuel cells.
My meaning is that hydrogen may lead to better batteries and a better method of short-term energy storage, but it's not going to end energy monopolies. It's always going to require more energy to crack the molecule that you can get from re-combining it.
We can get hydrogen from fossil fuels, but that still does not mean that energy monopolies are over.
LK
Didn't the conservatives just get thrown out of congress?
Sort of, they had to run Conservative Democrats to do it.
LK
Take hydrogen. The day someone figures out how to easily produce hydrogen the days of energy monopolies are over - anyone with access to water (or whatever the raw material turns out to be) can do it.
That's not going to happen. The most plentiful source of hydrogen on the planet is water. No one is going to be able to figure out a system that uses less engerdy to split the molecules than you get in return by burning the hydrogen or using it in fuel cells.
Can you figure out a way to lift an anvil into the air using less energy than you get by dropping it?
LK
Just think of the labor costs that would involve. Then let's think of the cost of the land.
Why do you think that some people oppose immigration reform? Hire an illegal for $2.00 per day and the labor costs take a nose dive.
LK
Rummy and his cronies can take a hike too.
You do realize that he already took a hike, right?
LK
Or maybe businesses will have to make some sacrifices rather than expecting their workers to bend over and take one for the team.
That's not going to happen. Businesses exist to make money. They have obligations to shareholders. If it's possible to maintain current profit levels without breaking the law, they are OBLIGATED to do so. If that means that they have to raise prices, they will do it.
Nope. More money in the hands of the lower class = more consumer spending = more business for any business. Or as Kennedy put it, "a rising tide lifts all boats."
If you are currently making $7.10 per hour and the minimum wage is $5.15, you are making nearly $2.00/hr more than the minimum wage. If the minimum wage is raised to $6.10, you will then be making $1.00/hr more than minimum wage.
LK
People who take an ungodly amount of time to answer simple questions are among the most annoying people on the planet.
If you don't know the answer, you don't fucking know! Just guess or stop there.
LK
In Soviet Russia.
If you're a serial killer, your victims come to YOU.
LK
So, what you're saying is that they made war, then love.
LK
Don't you mean your ex-wife?
LK
While modern day eugenicists might all too eagerly read into these findings to draw their own politically biased conclusions...
Eugeneticists may use this information to claim the superiority of Europeans, a counterpoint can be made that these people can't be superior because were having sex with sub-humans.
LK
The one thing that will certainly happen though, is a minimum wage increase.
So now, everything that relies on minimum wage labor will go up in price.
The $0.99 value menu at your local fast food joint just might become the $1.29 value menu.
A raise in minimum wage is, in effect, a pay cut for everyone else.
LK
Fewer taxes get raised.
You are aware that the Democrats have been bitching that President Bush has been too focused on LOWERING taxes?
LK
That woul d be the ultimate up-yours, especially if the Dems get both tight races left - as his switch would put it at 50-50
That's not possible.
It took me 20 minutes to explain this to my girlfriend last night. One house seat is in the "I" column. If Lieberman were to switch(which he won't) it would switch the Senate balance from 50(D)/49(R) to 49(D)/50(R).
LK
Unfortunately, we do not seem to regard an expectation of privacy as very important....
Especially as it relates to conduct on a public network.
LK
That might be funny, if I had only seen Ghostbusters once.
It's blasphemy. You just don't mix Spengler and Venkman quotes.
LK
Have you ever seen a Presidential debate?
Nature has already done it.
LK
Yeah, those silly Democrats. They're not happy if Republicans steal an election with paper ballots, they're not happy if Republicans steal them with electronic ballots. How do they want you to steal them, eh?
I don't know if you merely misunderstood his point or if you are intentionally not getting it.
In 2000, the Democrats said that the Republicans stole the election because of the confusing butterfly ballots and that we needed a new and modern way of voting. Now that we have it, Democrats are hedging their bets by planting the seed in people's minds that the Republicans are poised to steal more elections using the system that they themselves demanded.
It smacks of arrogance. These people honestly believe that they only way that they can possibly lose is if the opposition cheats. It's like when a child refuses to take responsibility for any of his own actions by blaming everyone else when he gets into trouble.
Well, if you ask me, the deal is that the Bush machine is getting ready to pull some fast ones tomorrow, and they expect they're going to have some peculiar "upsets" that need to be explained away, so they're sending folks like yourself around to soften up the crowd in advance.
Is it really that unbelievable that there are actually people out here who don't vote the same way that you do? Is it really that unbelievable to you that roughly 50% of the American electorate feels differently about the issues than you do?
People are different, they have different goals, dreams and ideals. As incredible as many people seem to find it, but there are millions of us who will be voting (mostly) for Republicans tomorrow. It's not because we think that the Republicans are ideal, but because we think that the Republicans are a better choice than the only other party that has a chance of winning.
There is no need for paid operatives to infiltrate Slashdot, K5 and where ever else geeks like us congregate online. There are millions of us who vote Republican.
Aw, poor baby. You might lose some karma.
And you're a real paragon of bravery for posting material that defames Republicans in a forum where there is a clear pro-Democrat bias.
LK
This is a very stark contrast to Gentoo's "bleeding edge" approach. Even the "stable" tree of gentoo is considered bleeding edge by most standards in a network OS.
Sigh...
"Bleeding edge"
We're talking about computers and software, not motorcycles and muscle cars.
I suppose that bleeding edge could refer to those cheap cases that don't have any of the sheet metal folded to protect our fingers, but seriously does all of this "extreme" bullshit have to happen here too?
LK
So, the only way someone can break the law by selling their vote is to break the law by sneaking a camera phone into the booth?
LK