>>I mind very much if those doing so clog the bandwidth so much that students trying to use the thing for real work, or others trying to use it for real research, can't get done what they need to get done.
What does it matter WHY the bog down takes place? If everyone is downloading *BSD, Linux, or whatever and they have a "legitimate" reason for doing it, and your connection suffers because of it are you going to bitch to the admins to ban *.*linux*.* and *.*bsd*.* connections from being made?
>>So what's the difference between choosing a guy for his earning potential and for the way he looks and/or how she's attracted to him? I don't see much. Just different attributes.
I like to think of myself as a fairly handsome man, however I don't want it to be my looks which have attracted my wife to me. I think that she liked the fact that I treated her like an intelligent human being and not just like another pretty blonde.
Instead of "Hi, can I get into your pants?", it ws "Hi, want to hang out?" THEN I got into her pants.:-)>
>>I consider my earning potential to be an outward reflection of my intelligence, which is definitely a "good gene". So if someone wants to be attracted to me cause of that... fine.
I have an aunt who is married to a professional athlete. I honestly don't think she would have given him the time of day if he had been te guy working at "Sub Way". Mike Tyson has a higher earning potential than just about anyone in the discussion, is THAT indicative of his intelligence? Of his ability to pass on "good" genes? If a woman only wants to be with me because of my looks of because in 10 years there is a better an 50% chance that I'll be making 100grand per year, she's EXACTLY the type of woman that I don't want to be with.
PS. Do you think that Jennifer Lopez would be caught dead in public with "Puff Daddy" if he wasn't making MANY MANY millions of dollars per year? I don't.
>>b) All "if"s aside, she's still going home with Russ. And if she doesn't, Russ is going to hunt Eggbert down and kill him. Because he can
You're forgetting that since Eggbert is a geek he'll have the sweetest in personal protection technology available to him. AND he'll know how to implement it. So when he approaches Eggbert will know about it and he then will open up Russ's forhead with a small round piece of copper jacketed steel.
>>c) Russ can go to MCSE boot camp, and get his MCSE in two weeks. He can then rise up the corporate ladder (which is easy to do if you're
Gas station attendants don't have enough money to do that.
>>6'6"), become Eggbert's boss, fire him for using linux (or playing quake) at work, and then steal
Could only happen at Microsoft, where no self-respecting geek would ever work in the first place.
>>the wife, GothChik, of the poor unemployed Eggbert. And then have hot uninhibited sex with GothChik every night.
In the world of make believe where you apparantly reside, Russ's number one goal is to get sloppy seconds *AFTER* Eggbert is done?
If you want to make this a dick measuring contest, we can go there.
Kempo Shotokan Go Ju Do Jui Jitsu Isshinryu
These are all martial arts in which I have had formal schooling. I've also read much of the theory behind Judo. Have you had a look at my name Lord "Kano". One of the reasons why I adopted this name is due to my immense respect for Jigoro Kano.
Going to the YMCA for 6 weeks doesn't mean that you've "taken karate".
>>If you are paying more than $13 for a cd, you are getting hardcore ripped off. Also you can buy used cds. Just admit it, you just don't want to pay...
I do pay for the music that I get. I've spent more money on music that many people spend on computers.
I just want to pay a FAIR price for it. $14-15 for a single CD is fair, $18 is not.
Actually that's what the federal interstate highway system is for.
The only way they were able to build it constitutionally was to build it for the purpose of providing for the common defense. If you modify a Sherman tank to comply with your state's and the federal motor vehicle laws(mirrors, turn signals, brake lights, etc...). Yes, you can drive it on the interstate.
"MP3" and "WAREZ" are not synonyms. I have a few hundred mega od MP3s and I own the CDs. I use MP3 to play music on my computer(s) without shuffling through stacks of CDs for the one song that I want.
I have d/led MP3s off of the net and if I like what I hear I'll buy the CD. If not, It's deleted. I don't have an ethical problem with that.
MP3s *COULD* help artists if they weren't prevent by their contracts from directly selling them on the net.
I'd rather pay $2-3 each for the songs that I want instead of $18 for a whole CD when I only like 3 songs.
MP3 has the ability to reduce the RIAA's power. Instead of 5 year 6 album deals, artists would only want 2-3 year 2 album deals to get their names in the public eye then switch to online music distribution. The RIAA knows this and this is why they fight MP3.
Go to MP3.com you'll be able to hear music from bands whom you'd never know about if this were 4 years ago.
>>Although I may personally use it at home, it has no place on an academic network.
When you live on campus, for 9 months out of the year, that IS your home. They pay tuition, technology, and housing fees. They've paid for it, they can use it as they see fit.
>>Someone is paying for this bandwidth (the colleges) and I don't think they're paying all that money so that people can collect MP3s.
Excuse me? Do you think that colleges do this out of the kindness of their hearts? What do you think that tuition is for? Technology Fees? Housing Fees?
The University may cut the final check, but it's the students' dime in the end.
If it's my dime, I can spend all day searching for and indexing AC "Naked and petrified/grits down the pants" posts if I want to.
>>Not all gamer chiks are fat, ugly dykes. There are a few of us that are good looking and have brains
I have a couple of gripes with that statement.
1. You make it sound like fat is *ALWAYS* a bad thing. Moderate plumpness can be quite attractive. Anna Nicole Smith is the perfect example of this, she's on the larger side and along with that size comes big breastedness that works very well for her.
(Many women with small breasts are just as attractive as well, but in HER particular case the extra overall size is quite pleasing to the eye)
2. Some of my most vivid and cherished sexual fantasies involve the women that you call "dykes".:-P
3. Ugly is a very subjective description. (Ally McBeal) is very attractive to some men, but I am overcome by the desire to buy her a steak sandwich every time I see her. She's a goddess to some men, but she's a lollipop in my eyes.
Well if she does go home with Eggbert, they'll go to a nice big house in the suburbs and make sweet love in the hot tub, which she and Eggbert were able afford because of Eggberts career as a MCSE, CNE, and linux guru.
If she goes home with Russ, they'll be going home to a trailer because between shifts at the local gas station Russ knocked her up and she had to leave school to care for her baby.
Russ can't buy her a single red rose, while Eggbert can shower her with a dozen black roses per week.
The REAL world is much different than high school.
Although I disagree with the way he put it, the AC does raise a valid point in this case.
Do you want a woman who is only with your because of your income or income potential? If a woman "loves" you only for your money, then she most definately is a whore.
Is a trophy bride acceptable to you? It's not to me. If I found out that my wife was only with me for my earning potential, I'd get a divorce TODAY.
I'm not insulting you, I'm just challenging your ideas.
I'm a game-playing geek and I just happen to be married to a hot blonde. I also have trophies for the karate tournaments that I've been in. (I never won first, Second is the best I ever placed) I also have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. She's safer with me than she would be with her own father.
I was a fat kid, I'm still about 15 pounds overweight as an adult, but I'm working on that. Ugly? Not in the least, I'm not supermodel material but definately a handsome man.
All of this and I'm a geek. I'm an avid gamer. I was a founding member of this area's (South western pennsylvania) largest LAN gaming group.
I'd spank your ass at Q2 or UT and if you don't like it, I could kick your ass on the street. When I go home tonight I'm going to score with that hot blonde that I married.
Hot chick at home, and an Übergamer to boot. Read it and weep.
I was with you up to your last paragraph. I am a republican and I'm a black man. I'm also a pagan.
You don't have to be white or christian to believe that conservatism is better for the country.
You may disagree with me on philosophy or politics, but if you ask republicans who are the most respected conservatives you'll hear Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas. If you ask who is the most articulate conservative you'll hear Alan Keyes.
Have you every heard of the log cabin republicans? Well they're a group of homosexual republicans.
You've just done to another group what you complained about Katz doing to geeks.
>>I really do not think Katz is guilty of making an unfair generalization by stating the majority of (computer) geeks are white and male.
I'm in Pittsburgh, and if you take a little road trip down to CMU and have a peek around campus you'll see LOTS of asian and indian people in the IT field.
If my majority you mean "more than half" you'd be right, but he gives the impression that he means that there is no significant amount of non "white male" geeks. There most definately are.
I just happen to be black, when you generalize about geeks you're just as guilty as those on the outside.
LK
PS, why is it that I dread it every time I see Katz's name on a story?
Re:The Solution is Quite Clear but very unpleasant
on
Living Terrors
·
· Score: 2
Just imagine: a post-NBC catastrophy world mostly comprised of Slashdot geeks...
It wouldn't be too much better than what we have right now. I've noticed that most of us are staunch supporters of one side or another. Very few of us have the "I have a steady job, so I don't care" mentality.
We'd have the vegans vs. everybody else. We'd have "Pro-choice" vs. "Pro-life". We'd have the gun rights crowd vs. the con control crowd. All day, every day we'd have this. Though they have many drawbacks, the mindless masses are useful for keeping society stable and in a relative state of peace.
I don't have any first had knowledge of this , but I do have the BeOS preview release for PowerPC, and Be has an app that you launch from the MacOS finder that 'unloads' the MacOS and then loads the BeOS.
This might be what they're doing with windows. Have you ever installed Mandrake or RedHat (I must admit that I am ignorant about other distros) under the/dosutils folder on the CD there is a batch file called autoboot, that will unload DOS and load linux, Be could be doing something like this.
A script/batch file that will shutdown into DOS mode and run a loadlin like program.
>> I doubt anyone would get sick if we all lived in some pristen forest and lived on fruit, humans are the only animal that gets sick all the time
Only because we take the time and effort to save our weak and infirmed. It's a moral/ethical problem, we can't simply allow people to die because they're imperfect now that we have the ability to save them, but by saving them we cause their genes to be included in the gene pool and allow that infirmity or weakness to get passed into the next generation.
Also, humans are also the only animal where every society has contact with all of the rest through one means or another, imagine the most off the wall documentary you've ever seen, one where people in the deepest reaches of South America are shown doing tribal dances or whatever, there had to be a western photographer there to get those images. If he had the flu, or measles he would have wiped them all out.
In the animal kingdon there is not the same level of travel that exposes them to foreign virus infections, and since there is no medicine the sick and weak die off quickly or are killed by predators and eaten. When humans lived a more or less nomadic lifestyle I'd be willing to bet that fewer people were sick then. Primarily because you were either healthy or dead.
The measuring system you use is not relevent, as long as you can do the basic math and conversion to other systems. If you measure in inches, centimeters, or even widths of Arthus C. Clark's thumb it doesn't make any difference as long as you know that 2*2==4 and the square root of 9 is 3 and how to convert it to other systems of measure.
Maybe if we had politicians who actually cared more about doing the work of the people than in getting re-elected we'd get the budget increases that we need for the space (and several other) program(s).
If such a body could be grown "sans head", I believe that the legal problem would go out the window.
A body with everything below the brain stem would not be a legally protectable person under current interpretation of (US) law if My understanding is correct, IANAL though.
I don't have a problem with this. I don't care if someone buys this thing just to make Jurassic* soup.
Working hard or just being lucky has it's benefits. I don't see this as some grand plot to obfuscate history and hoard all fossils away from the view of the general public.
This smacks of the people who say that a certain former CEO has amassed an immorally large fortune. The method by which he gained that fortune aside, being rich isn't some mortal sin nor is it wrong to buy expensive things.
If you don't think that such a relic should be in the hands of a private collector or individual, form a group to solocit donations and if you can raise enough money to buy it give it to a museum.
Because educational institutions are run by clueless bean-counting suits, NOT techies.
Sure schools already can D/L the code for free, BUT the policies are dictated by those clueless suits. If the suit gets it in his/her head that it's dangerous (virii, trojans, etc...) to download something from the internet, they policy will prohibit it.
If the suit decides that because M$ is giving the school a good deal, then M$ it will be. RedHat is going the route of oneupsmanship. (Or onedownsmanship if you will)
School employees are greedy SOBs, I've had teachers ask me if there's an "educator's" discount on a $5 pack of floppy disks before. Free is better than cheap. Because the distro comes in a shiny retain box, and it's free it kills two birds with one stone.
1. Fears about the "dangerous" content on the internet are avoided.
AND
2. It's free, educational people LOVE when something's free.
Smart move RedHat, bravo. Too bad SuSe beat you to it.
Slashdot Mirror
>>I mind very much if those doing so clog the bandwidth so much that students trying to use the thing for real work, or others trying to use it for real research, can't get done what they need to get done.
What does it matter WHY the bog down takes place? If everyone is downloading *BSD, Linux, or whatever and they have a "legitimate" reason for doing it, and your connection suffers because of it are you going to bitch to the admins to ban *.*linux*.* and *.*bsd*.* connections from being made?
LK
>>* The university can get 'supposedly' into hot water with the RIAA.
The RIAA would get their ass kicked in court by any University.
If having MP3s of any type was illegal, you'd be right. However some bands freely distribute music in MP3 format and allow people to trade them.
Have you ever heard the expression that "It's better to let 10 guilty men go free than to imprison one innocent man."?
If you can't prove that any specific student is illegally copying any specific MP3, then there are no grounds for this.
>> * They are paying for facilities for educational use.. not porn or other crap
Education does NOT mean...
1.Open mind.
2.Insert knowledge.
3.Close mind.
Education at the collegiate level is about the free exchange of information and ideas.
LK
>>So what's the difference between choosing a guy for his earning potential and for the way he looks and/or how she's attracted to him? I don't see much. Just different attributes.
:-)>
I like to think of myself as a fairly handsome man, however I don't want it to be my looks which have attracted my wife to me. I think that she liked the fact that I treated her like an intelligent human being and not just like another pretty blonde.
Instead of "Hi, can I get into your pants?", it ws "Hi, want to hang out?" THEN I got into her pants.
>>I consider my earning potential to be an outward reflection of my intelligence, which is definitely a "good gene". So if someone wants to be attracted to me cause of that... fine.
I have an aunt who is married to a professional athlete. I honestly don't think she would have given him the time of day if he had been te guy working at "Sub Way". Mike Tyson has a higher earning potential than just about anyone in the discussion, is THAT indicative of his intelligence? Of his ability to pass on "good" genes? If a woman only wants to be with me because of my looks of because in 10 years there is a better an 50% chance that I'll be making 100grand per year, she's EXACTLY the type of woman that I don't want to be with.
PS. Do you think that Jennifer Lopez would be caught dead in public with "Puff Daddy" if he wasn't making MANY MANY millions of dollars per year? I don't.
LK
>>b) All "if"s aside, she's still going home with Russ. And if she doesn't, Russ is going to hunt Eggbert down and kill him. Because he can
You're forgetting that since Eggbert is a geek he'll have the sweetest in personal protection technology available to him. AND he'll know how to implement it. So when he approaches Eggbert will know about it and he then will open up Russ's forhead with a small round piece of copper jacketed steel.
>>c) Russ can go to MCSE boot camp, and get his MCSE in two weeks. He can then rise up the corporate ladder (which is easy to do if you're
Gas station attendants don't have enough money to do that.
>>6'6"), become Eggbert's boss, fire him for using linux (or playing quake) at work, and then steal
Could only happen at Microsoft, where no self-respecting geek would ever work in the first place.
>>the wife, GothChik, of the poor unemployed Eggbert. And then have hot uninhibited sex with GothChik every night.
In the world of make believe where you apparantly reside, Russ's number one goal is to get sloppy seconds *AFTER* Eggbert is done?
Sux to be you.
LK
If you want to make this a dick measuring contest, we can go there.
Kempo
Shotokan
Go Ju Do
Jui Jitsu
Isshinryu
These are all martial arts in which I have had formal schooling. I've also read much of the theory behind Judo. Have you had a look at my name Lord "Kano". One of the reasons why I adopted this name is due to my immense respect for Jigoro Kano.
Going to the YMCA for 6 weeks doesn't mean that you've "taken karate".
LK
>>If you are paying more than $13 for a cd, you are getting hardcore ripped off. Also you can buy used cds. Just admit it, you just don't want to pay...
I do pay for the music that I get. I've spent more money on music that many people spend on computers.
I just want to pay a FAIR price for it. $14-15 for a single CD is fair, $18 is not.
LK
Actually that's what the federal interstate highway system is for.
The only way they were able to build it constitutionally was to build it for the purpose of providing for the common defense. If you modify a Sherman tank to comply with your state's and the federal motor vehicle laws(mirrors, turn signals, brake lights, etc...). Yes, you can drive it on the interstate.
"MP3" and "WAREZ" are not synonyms. I have a few hundred mega od MP3s and I own the CDs. I use MP3 to play music on my computer(s) without shuffling through stacks of CDs for the one song that I want.
I have d/led MP3s off of the net and if I like what I hear I'll buy the CD. If not, It's deleted. I don't have an ethical problem with that.
MP3s *COULD* help artists if they weren't prevent by their contracts from directly selling them on the net.
I'd rather pay $2-3 each for the songs that I want instead of $18 for a whole CD when I only like 3 songs.
MP3 has the ability to reduce the RIAA's power. Instead of 5 year 6 album deals, artists would only want 2-3 year 2 album deals to get their names in the public eye then switch to online music distribution. The RIAA knows this and this is why they fight MP3.
Go to MP3.com you'll be able to hear music from bands whom you'd never know about if this were 4 years ago.
LK
>>Although I may personally use it at home, it has no place on an academic network.
When you live on campus, for 9 months out of the year, that IS your home. They pay tuition, technology, and housing fees. They've paid for it, they can use it as they see fit.
LK
>>Someone is paying for this bandwidth (the colleges) and I don't think they're paying all that money so that people can collect MP3s.
Excuse me? Do you think that colleges do this out of the kindness of their hearts? What do you think that tuition is for? Technology Fees? Housing Fees?
The University may cut the final check, but it's the students' dime in the end.
If it's my dime, I can spend all day searching for and indexing AC "Naked and petrified/grits down the pants" posts if I want to.
LK
>>Not all gamer chiks are fat, ugly dykes. There are a few of us that are good looking and have brains
:-P
I have a couple of gripes with that statement.
1. You make it sound like fat is *ALWAYS* a bad thing. Moderate plumpness can be quite attractive. Anna Nicole Smith is the perfect example of this, she's on the larger side and along with that size comes big breastedness that works very well for her.
(Many women with small breasts are just as attractive as well, but in HER particular case the extra overall size is quite pleasing to the eye)
2. Some of my most vivid and cherished sexual fantasies involve the women that you call "dykes".
3. Ugly is a very subjective description. (Ally McBeal) is very attractive to some men, but I am overcome by the desire to buy her a steak sandwich every time I see her. She's a goddess to some men, but she's a lollipop in my eyes.
LK
Well if she does go home with Eggbert, they'll go to a nice big house in the suburbs and make sweet love in the hot tub, which she and Eggbert were able afford because of Eggberts career as a MCSE, CNE, and linux guru.
If she goes home with Russ, they'll be going home to a trailer because between shifts at the local gas station Russ knocked her up and she had to leave school to care for her baby.
Russ can't buy her a single red rose, while Eggbert can shower her with a dozen black roses per week.
The REAL world is much different than high school.
LK
Although I disagree with the way he put it, the AC does raise a valid point in this case.
Do you want a woman who is only with your because of your income or income potential? If a woman "loves" you only for your money, then she most definately is a whore.
Is a trophy bride acceptable to you? It's not to me. If I found out that my wife was only with me for my earning potential, I'd get a divorce TODAY.
I'm not insulting you, I'm just challenging your ideas.
LK
I'm a game-playing geek and I just happen to be married to a hot blonde. I also have trophies for the karate tournaments that I've been in. (I never won first, Second is the best I ever placed) I also have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. She's safer with me than she would be with her own father.
I was a fat kid, I'm still about 15 pounds overweight as an adult, but I'm working on that. Ugly? Not in the least, I'm not supermodel material but definately a handsome man.
All of this and I'm a geek. I'm an avid gamer. I was a founding member of this area's (South western pennsylvania) largest LAN gaming group.
I'd spank your ass at Q2 or UT and if you don't like it, I could kick your ass on the street. When I go home tonight I'm going to score with that hot blonde that I married.
Hot chick at home, and an Übergamer to boot. Read it and weep.
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyatch!
LK
I was with you up to your last paragraph. I am a republican and I'm a black man. I'm also a pagan.
You don't have to be white or christian to believe that conservatism is better for the country.
You may disagree with me on philosophy or politics, but if you ask republicans who are the most respected conservatives you'll hear Colin Powell and Clarence Thomas. If you ask who is the most articulate conservative you'll hear Alan Keyes.
Have you every heard of the log cabin republicans? Well they're a group of homosexual republicans.
You've just done to another group what you complained about Katz doing to geeks.
LK
>>I really do not think Katz is guilty of making an unfair generalization by stating the majority of (computer) geeks are white and male.
I'm in Pittsburgh, and if you take a little road trip down to CMU and have a peek around campus you'll see LOTS of asian and indian people in the IT field.
If my majority you mean "more than half" you'd be right, but he gives the impression that he means that there is no significant amount of non "white male" geeks. There most definately are.
LK
I just happen to be black, when you generalize about geeks you're just as guilty as those on the outside.
LK
PS, why is it that I dread it every time I see Katz's name on a story?
Just imagine: a post-NBC catastrophy world mostly comprised of Slashdot geeks...
It wouldn't be too much better than what we have right now. I've noticed that most of us are staunch supporters of one side or another. Very few of us have the "I have a steady job, so I don't care" mentality.
We'd have the vegans vs. everybody else. We'd have "Pro-choice" vs. "Pro-life". We'd have the gun rights crowd vs. the con control crowd. All day, every day we'd have this. Though they have many drawbacks, the mindless masses are useful for keeping society stable and in a relative state of peace.
LK
I don't have any first had knowledge of this , but I do have the BeOS preview release for PowerPC, and Be has an app that you launch from the MacOS finder that 'unloads' the MacOS and then loads the BeOS.
/dosutils folder on the CD there is a batch file called autoboot, that will unload DOS and load linux, Be could be doing something like this.
This might be what they're doing with windows. Have you ever installed Mandrake or RedHat (I must admit that I am ignorant about other distros) under the
A script/batch file that will shutdown into DOS mode and run a loadlin like program.
LK
>> I doubt anyone would get sick if we all lived in some pristen forest and lived on fruit, humans are the only animal that gets sick all the time
Only because we take the time and effort to save our weak and infirmed. It's a moral/ethical problem, we can't simply allow people to die because they're imperfect now that we have the ability to save them, but by saving them we cause their genes to be included in the gene pool and allow that infirmity or weakness to get passed into the next generation.
Also, humans are also the only animal where every society has contact with all of the rest through one means or another, imagine the most off the wall documentary you've ever seen, one where people in the deepest reaches of South America are shown doing tribal dances or whatever, there had to be a western photographer there to get those images. If he had the flu, or measles he would have wiped them all out.
In the animal kingdon there is not the same level of travel that exposes them to foreign virus infections, and since there is no medicine the sick and weak die off quickly or are killed by predators and eaten. When humans lived a more or less nomadic lifestyle I'd be willing to bet that fewer people were sick then. Primarily because you were either healthy or dead.
LK
The soviets never made it to the moon, we DID.
The measuring system you use is not relevent, as long as you can do the basic math and conversion to other systems. If you measure in inches, centimeters, or even widths of Arthus C. Clark's thumb it doesn't make any difference as long as you know that 2*2==4 and the square root of 9 is 3 and how to convert it to other systems of measure.
Maybe if we had politicians who actually cared more about doing the work of the people than in getting re-elected we'd get the budget increases that we need for the space (and several other) program(s).
LK
If such a body could be grown "sans head", I believe that the legal problem would go out the window.
A body with everything below the brain stem would not be a legally protectable person under current interpretation of (US) law if My understanding is correct, IANAL though.
It could be a huge ethical problem though.
LK
I don't have a problem with this. I don't care if someone buys this thing just to make Jurassic* soup.
Working hard or just being lucky has it's benefits. I don't see this as some grand plot to obfuscate history and hoard all fossils away from the view of the general public.
This smacks of the people who say that a certain former CEO has amassed an immorally large fortune. The method by which he gained that fortune aside, being rich isn't some mortal sin nor is it wrong to buy expensive things.
If you don't think that such a relic should be in the hands of a private collector or individual, form a group to solocit donations and if you can raise enough money to buy it give it to a museum.
Put up or shut up.
LK
For older machines I use RedHat. 5.2 was wonderful on older slower machines.
Then again, I didn't use 6.0 or 6.1 on anything slower than a PII-300
LK
Because educational institutions are run by clueless bean-counting suits, NOT techies.
Sure schools already can D/L the code for free, BUT the policies are dictated by those clueless suits. If the suit gets it in his/her head that it's dangerous (virii, trojans, etc...) to download something from the internet, they policy will prohibit it.
If the suit decides that because M$ is giving the school a good deal, then M$ it will be. RedHat is going the route of oneupsmanship. (Or onedownsmanship if you will)
School employees are greedy SOBs, I've had teachers ask me if there's an "educator's" discount on a $5 pack of floppy disks before. Free is better than cheap. Because the distro comes in a shiny retain box, and it's free it kills two birds with one stone.
1. Fears about the "dangerous" content on the internet are avoided.
AND
2. It's free, educational people LOVE when something's free.
Smart move RedHat, bravo. Too bad SuSe beat you to it.
LK