But are they really victims? We can tell them how much info Apple/Google/etc gathers on them but if they don't care or think its worth it what's the big problem? Most people don't care about such stuff.
It's like a friend eating his favourite fried chicken at his favourite dining place. It's bad for his health but is he a victim?
On a related note do you think that trying/learning to build a space station with artificial gravity and radiation shielding should be a priority rather than trying to put humans on Moon or Mars?
I use certificate patrol. It basically warns you if a cert has changed suspiciously, or if the CA has changed.
It's flawed in that it only remembers one cert per domain for comparison and nowadays for whatever reasons companies like facebook and Google often use different certs signed by different CAs for the same domains and spread the load/connections amongst them. So you can get more warning prompts than you'd want.
This doesn't mean the concept is broken though, just that Certificate Patrol's particular implementation has room for improvement.
The desired case is, if at home you decide that the different certs you get from gmail or facebook are OK (and told the plugin to ignore them), then go to some foreign country and suddenly you get certs that are signed by TeliaSonera, you'd get a warning message and you'd know that something was up and choose not to login.
Same goes for logging in to your bank/corporate site while on a business trip to China. If the cert changes unexpectedly - from being signed by say Equifax to being signed by CNNIC, you should get a warning too.
Maybe you can paint your wall cheaply with these compounds, but how would you get the electricity out?
I daresay doing it in a way where you actually get electricity would make the costs go up by a lot more. And depending on how its done it could make the efficiency go down too.
Merely painting your wall with crushed/blended solar panel material won't produce much usable power.
"Intent" would normally apply in this scenario in my country, so I doubt that sort of thing would be a big problem to me (unless the authorities decide that I need to be eliminated for some reason).
The copyright law "harmonization" stuff the USA keeps pushing (in its various forms) is more likely to affect me, assuming the leaders of my country "bend over" (which isn't that unlikely unfortunately).
But its true the device might end up having to be crippled because of all these "legal" issues. Shame really.
I want something like Google Glasses, but for human augmentation and not as a glorified ad delivery device. You wouldn't need a watch if you had such glasses.
Speaking of calculators, it should be able to recognize math stuff and help with calculations. Basically if I write or see some simple math problems, I should be able to ask it to calculate the answer, add up a bunch numbers etc. Maybe even look up more complicated stuff on wolfram alpha. More here: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3478821&cid=42956909
By the way, most phones nowadays have a calculator feature, so most people with phones don't need to carry around a specialized calculator.
Doesn't even have to be more careful or rigorous. Set the autoupdates to be on Monday then there'd be 6 days for others to notice the problem and for the update to be pulled. Can't remember the last time where Microsoft pulled a BSOD level Windows update more than 6 days after it was released.
Of course it doesn't work if everyone starts doing that;).
The other problem with the "Download updates and let me choose when to install them" option is many versions of Windows have a nasty habit of changing the shutdown menu to default to "shutdown and install updates" or something like that. It's not good to have Windows apply updates when the machine is shutting down due to a low battery situation...
I think many ISPs do the reverse - they don't invest in proper network monitoring and let their customers and call centre do the network monitoring for them;).
Yeah in the US politics is like pro-wrestling. Just a lot less ethical but with more nukes involved.
You'll have supporters and commentators on both sides yelling how great their "wrestler" is and how the other one is bad and doing bad stuff, and then when their wrestler does the same stuff they say it's OK.
For many the party affiliation is like a religion. Which is why I find it funny that so many Atheists think that getting rid of religion will solve problems. Many people have a need to be rabid fundamentalist Republicans/Democrats/Baptists/Muslims/Vegans/PETA jihadists or even Atheists. Makes them feel better or something. Part of some great tribe perhaps.
Maybe the Swedish people think they're part of the great Swedish or Nordic or Viking tribe and so this party affiliation stuff isn't such a big deal to them;).
Not sure it'll do much good - but maybe one day enough people will stop barking up the wrong tree.
From what I see there are people (including slashdotters) who believe that: a) People can't vote well with their ballots (too stupid, ignorant, choice limited etc) once every few years. But at the same time somehow believe that b) People can vote well with their wallets every day and so the Free Market will fix everything;).
ok cool. Factoring all those brilliant geniuses Google has hired and herded together for "spontaneous creativity" and that 20% own time thing, et cetera et cetera I have this to say:
That's it?
It's not very impressive is it? I'd think even Apple is doing better in terms of "innovative" products that are actually profitable. Yeah people like to say the iphone, ipad, ipod, app store, itunes etc sort of stuff might have all been done before and Apple just hit the sweetspot.
But the same can be said about Google Maps (Terraserver[1]), Google Ads, Google Apps (ThinkFree Office[2]), gmail, etc. If not more so.
Seriously, given all that cheering going on about Google's methods in the article, here and everywhere else, don't you expect more? Maybe not Xerox PARC, or SRI ARC level but really.
I hope they make a good human augmentation product out of Google Glass rather than some stupid ad delivery crap. If they want some ideas on that, I can provide many for _free_ just because I don't want to die of old age waiting for the future to arrive. While getting rehashed reruns over and over and over again.
What's so innovative about gigabit internet? Gigabit internet is available in many countries. It should be regarded as shameful not innovative that a search engine company has to provide internet services just because the country's ISPs are so crap and poorly regulated.
The free internet package is innovative I guess, but is it profitable?
Also waiting for the "technology will create more new jobs" crowd to chime in;). There may indeed be more new jobs, but the last I checked dogs can't do those jobs no matter how much training you give them. Would that apply to humans one day?
Any examples of new _profitable_ and _innovative_ (copying others doesn't count for much) Google stuff that has come out of Google's idea of productivity?
So far they're still mostly making money from ads right? What else?
I doubt most companies will be so happy that their employees come out with innovative stuff that doesn't actually make the company more money.
Even if that is true (which it's not- there's nothing stopping a corporation from growing larger if it has enough resources) Big Corps would still continue existing after you get rid of Big Government. They're not going to magically vanish just because one country goes up in smoke.
And if you had any sense you'd realize it's far easier for a big corporation to bully a small government or work with a corrupt small government. They would be very happy to take over or use the government as its army. There would be very little that a small government can do to stop it if no big government/organization with a larger military steps in to help.
The Dutch East India Company (VOC) was also arguably the first megacorporation, possessing quasi-governmental powers, including the ability to wage war, imprison and execute convicts,[4] negotiate treaties, coin money, and establish colonies.[5]
If you're on their private land they can certainly escort you out with armed guards. So imagine if one day there isn't much decent public land left- e.g. all the idiot libertarians got rid of all that pesky Big Government and the Corporations took over and you're just renting your homes from them.
To all those who grumble about Big Government. Get a clue, it's quality not quantity that matters. Don't be surprised things don't get better if you all keep trying to fix the wrong thing.
All those nice "amendments" and laws like FOIA do not apply to Corporations. So if you replace Big Ugly Government with Big Ugly Corp, you'd be more screwed.
The likes of Apple aren't going to hold elections every few years to let the riff-raff vote for different bosses or even put up with the inconvenience of merely pretending to do so.
If it's all about the economics then you'd need people to die soon after their productivity starts declining a lot or dropping to zero.
So you might not actually want to find cures/treatments for some problems;).
People will eventually die, but before that they often use up a lot of $$$ in medical expenses. And if anyone asks "but what if people could be healthy and fit forever?" they should go think more about the consequences. It's ugly.
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But are they really victims? We can tell them how much info Apple/Google/etc gathers on them but if they don't care or think its worth it what's the big problem? Most people don't care about such stuff.
It's like a friend eating his favourite fried chicken at his favourite dining place. It's bad for his health but is he a victim?
And I on the other hand have seen many advertisements that have been entertaining, amusing, funny and interesting.
That's legitimately helpful enough for me, even if I never intend to buy their products:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDGrfhJH1P4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDncfptDjPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw
I don't know about you but I like these reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/product-reviews/B000I1X6PM
http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Digital-Ethernet-Connection-meters/product-reviews/B003CT2A6I?pageNumber=2
http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-K2-Terminated-Speaker-Cable/dp/B000J36XR2
On a related note do you think that trying/learning to build a space station with artificial gravity and radiation shielding should be a priority rather than trying to put humans on Moon or Mars?
I use certificate patrol. It basically warns you if a cert has changed suspiciously, or if the CA has changed.
It's flawed in that it only remembers one cert per domain for comparison and nowadays for whatever reasons companies like facebook and Google often use different certs signed by different CAs for the same domains and spread the load/connections amongst them. So you can get more warning prompts than you'd want.
This doesn't mean the concept is broken though, just that Certificate Patrol's particular implementation has room for improvement.
The desired case is, if at home you decide that the different certs you get from gmail or facebook are OK (and told the plugin to ignore them), then go to some foreign country and suddenly you get certs that are signed by TeliaSonera, you'd get a warning message and you'd know that something was up and choose not to login.
Same goes for logging in to your bank/corporate site while on a business trip to China. If the cert changes unexpectedly - from being signed by say Equifax to being signed by CNNIC, you should get a warning too.
Yes, it's an easier task, but the penalty for a mistake is much more likely to kill you.
I can live with that... ;)
Wow that's expensive. A short tuktuk trip in Krabi cost me about 20 baht. This was offpeak though.
You're just proving his claim that distracted driving is not as dangerous as drunk driving.
This is assuming that drunk drivers are really causing double the fatalities compared to distracted drivers.
Maybe you can paint your wall cheaply with these compounds, but how would you get the electricity out?
I daresay doing it in a way where you actually get electricity would make the costs go up by a lot more. And depending on how its done it could make the efficiency go down too.
Merely painting your wall with crushed/blended solar panel material won't produce much usable power.
"Intent" would normally apply in this scenario in my country, so I doubt that sort of thing would be a big problem to me (unless the authorities decide that I need to be eliminated for some reason).
The copyright law "harmonization" stuff the USA keeps pushing (in its various forms) is more likely to affect me, assuming the leaders of my country "bend over" (which isn't that unlikely unfortunately).
But its true the device might end up having to be crippled because of all these "legal" issues. Shame really.
I want something like Google Glasses, but for human augmentation and not as a glorified ad delivery device. You wouldn't need a watch if you had such glasses.
Speaking of calculators, it should be able to recognize math stuff and help with calculations.
Basically if I write or see some simple math problems, I should be able to ask it to calculate the answer, add up a bunch numbers etc. Maybe even look up more complicated stuff on wolfram alpha.
More here: http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3478821&cid=42956909
By the way, most phones nowadays have a calculator feature, so most people with phones don't need to carry around a specialized calculator.
Give him a break. He can only write one word a minute or something.
The rest of us know what he means.
Doesn't even have to be more careful or rigorous. Set the autoupdates to be on Monday then there'd be 6 days for others to notice the problem and for the update to be pulled. Can't remember the last time where Microsoft pulled a BSOD level Windows update more than 6 days after it was released.
;).
Of course it doesn't work if everyone starts doing that
The other problem with the "Download updates and let me choose when to install them" option is many versions of Windows have a nasty habit of changing the shutdown menu to default to "shutdown and install updates" or something like that. It's not good to have Windows apply updates when the machine is shutting down due to a low battery situation...
I think many ISPs do the reverse - they don't invest in proper network monitoring and let their customers and call centre do the network monitoring for them ;).
Yeah in the US politics is like pro-wrestling. Just a lot less ethical but with more nukes involved.
;).
You'll have supporters and commentators on both sides yelling how great their "wrestler" is and how the other one is bad and doing bad stuff, and then when their wrestler does the same stuff they say it's OK.
For many the party affiliation is like a religion. Which is why I find it funny that so many Atheists think that getting rid of religion will solve problems. Many people have a need to be rabid fundamentalist Republicans/Democrats/Baptists/Muslims/Vegans/PETA jihadists or even Atheists. Makes them feel better or something. Part of some great tribe perhaps.
Maybe the Swedish people think they're part of the great Swedish or Nordic or Viking tribe and so this party affiliation stuff isn't such a big deal to them
Not sure it'll do much good - but maybe one day enough people will stop barking up the wrong tree.
;).
From what I see there are people (including slashdotters) who believe that:
a) People can't vote well with their ballots (too stupid, ignorant, choice limited etc) once every few years.
But at the same time somehow believe that
b) People can vote well with their wallets every day and so the Free Market will fix everything
ok cool. Factoring all those brilliant geniuses Google has hired and herded together for "spontaneous creativity" and that 20% own time thing, et cetera et cetera I have this to say:
That's it?
It's not very impressive is it? I'd think even Apple is doing better in terms of "innovative" products that are actually profitable. Yeah people like to say the iphone, ipad, ipod, app store, itunes etc sort of stuff might have all been done before and Apple just hit the sweetspot.
But the same can be said about Google Maps (Terraserver[1]), Google Ads, Google Apps (ThinkFree Office[2]), gmail, etc. If not more so.
Seriously, given all that cheering going on about Google's methods in the article, here and everywhere else, don't you expect more? Maybe not Xerox PARC, or SRI ARC level but really.
I hope they make a good human augmentation product out of Google Glass rather than some stupid ad delivery crap. If they want some ideas on that, I can provide many for _free_ just because I don't want to die of old age waiting for the future to arrive. While getting rehashed reruns over and over and over again.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Research_Maps
[2] http://reviews.cnet.com/office-suites/thinkfree-office-3/4505-3524_7-31615671.html
Is that profitable and innovative?
What's so innovative about gigabit internet? Gigabit internet is available in many countries. It should be regarded as shameful not innovative that a search engine company has to provide internet services just because the country's ISPs are so crap and poorly regulated.
The free internet package is innovative I guess, but is it profitable?
I don't recall Google Wave making them money.
So in short - none of the innovative stuff they came up with made money?
What happens to the people you can't use?
;). There may indeed be more new jobs, but the last I checked dogs can't do those jobs no matter how much training you give them. Would that apply to humans one day?
Also waiting for the "technology will create more new jobs" crowd to chime in
Any examples of new _profitable_ and _innovative_ (copying others doesn't count for much) Google stuff that has come out of Google's idea of productivity?
So far they're still mostly making money from ads right? What else?
I doubt most companies will be so happy that their employees come out with innovative stuff that doesn't actually make the company more money.
Even if that is true (which it's not- there's nothing stopping a corporation from growing larger if it has enough resources) Big Corps would still continue existing after you get rid of Big Government. They're not going to magically vanish just because one country goes up in smoke.
And if you had any sense you'd realize it's far easier for a big corporation to bully a small government or work with a corrupt small government. They would be very happy to take over or use the government as its army. There would be very little that a small government can do to stop it if no big government/organization with a larger military steps in to help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company#Military_expansion
The Dutch East India Company (VOC) was also arguably the first megacorporation, possessing quasi-governmental powers, including the ability to wage war, imprison and execute convicts,[4] negotiate treaties, coin money, and establish colonies.[5]
Think it can't happen today? http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/2-shells-oil-africas-blood/
The only thing stopping them from doing worse stuff are big governments with bigger "guns".
If Mr Sociopath Billionaire CEO didn't have to worry about pesky big governments cramping his style what do you think he'd do? Behave better?
If you're on their private land they can certainly escort you out with armed guards. So imagine if one day there isn't much decent public land left- e.g. all the idiot libertarians got rid of all that pesky Big Government and the Corporations took over and you're just renting your homes from them.
To all those who grumble about Big Government. Get a clue, it's quality not quantity that matters. Don't be surprised things don't get better if you all keep trying to fix the wrong thing.
All those nice "amendments" and laws like FOIA do not apply to Corporations. So if you replace Big Ugly Government with Big Ugly Corp, you'd be more screwed.
The likes of Apple aren't going to hold elections every few years to let the riff-raff vote for different bosses or even put up with the inconvenience of merely pretending to do so.
US version = Writin' History ?
If it's all about the economics then you'd need people to die soon after their productivity starts declining a lot or dropping to zero.
;).
So you might not actually want to find cures/treatments for some problems
People will eventually die, but before that they often use up a lot of $$$ in medical expenses. And if anyone asks "but what if people could be healthy and fit forever?" they should go think more about the consequences. It's ugly.