>You are just stringing together words that you were taught bad people believe in and hoping one of them will stick.
No. I am not.
There is this thing called the Internet. It might help you learn enough to understand the joke so I don't have to humiliate you with a tedious explanation.
After the IPv4 free pool is exhausted, subscriber experiences using legacy software will start to such very badly, and word will get around that the cause is something in the Internet.
Subscribers may start hearing vaguely scary stories about carrier-grade IPv4/NATs that serve entire neighborhoods, and have heavily limited functionality, but almost nobody will understand a flipping word of it. Subscribers will only know their service providers are presenting them with two basic choices if they want the Internet to work right again: A) upgrade once to software that uses IPv6, or B) pay extra every month for a public IPv4 address at the subscriber gateway.
Most subscribers won't think about this decision at all rationally. They'll just switch to software that works better, and they won't think about which version of the Internet protocol they're using. This is how IPv6 will save them money.
Put that AirPort base station (if it's the latest Extreme or Time Capsule product) on the Comcast IPv6 trial network, and you won't need to use a tunnel over IPv4. It'll route IPv6 natively.
"so I am not sure why the OP says it doesn't require a VPN."...because it doesn't use private addressing realms. Everything gets numbered out of the global address realm.
I'll do better than that. I'll give him my public IPv6 prefix at home. I'm at 2001:5a8:4:2290::/56 and the router is not even a firewall. Have fun port scanning me. Knock yourself out.
Anybody using an Apple wireless access point might conceivably need two subnets, i.e. one for the private home network and the other for the guest network.
They'll almost certainly be using DHCP6 with PD to hand out prefixes in the trials-- probably longer than/48 but shorter than/64. I'm guessing they will probably go with/56 if and when they roll out the commercial service, but I won't be shocked if we end up seeing/60 prefixes instead.
Well, I don't think you should be terribly surprised if Comcast decides you should be willing to pay extra (and agree to different terms of service) if you don't want your IPv4 address(es) to be walled off behind their Carrier Grade NAT.
In addition to being responsible for your own compliance with this Policy, you are also responsible for any use or misuse of the Service that violates this Policy, even if it was committed by a friend, family member, or guest with access to your Service address. Therefore, you must take steps to ensure that others do not use your address to gain unauthorized access to the Service by, for example, strictly maintaining the confidentiality of your Service access credentials. In all cases, you are solely responsible for the security of any vehicle you choose to use with the Service, including any goods or other materials stored or transported on that vehicle. America Connected recommends against leaving vehicles parked unattended unless you do so in strict compliance with all security recommendations and features provided by America Connected and the manufacturer of the applicable vehicle security systems. Any goods or other materials you choose to make available at your home for neighborhood use, for example, should be protected with a strong authentication protocol or as otherwise appropriate.
It is also your responsibility to secure the automobiles, trucks and any other vehicles or equipment not provided by America Connected that use the Service from external threats such as criminal gangs, joyriders, hooligans, and other methods of degrading the utility of the Service to its user community.
How does America Connected address inappropriate usage and shipping?
America Connected reserves the right to refuse to carry or ship, and to remove or block, any goods or materials, in whole or in part, that it, in its sole discretion, deems to be in violation of Sections I or II of this Policy, or otherwise harmful to America Connected's network or customers using the Service, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is unlawful so long as it violates this Policy. Neither America Connected nor any of its affiliates, suppliers, or agents have any obligation to monitor cargo (including, but not limited to, food, clothing, water, fuel, sewage, building materials, as well as materials transported to and from the Personal Package Delivery and Temporary Container Storage services) or passenger transportation on the Service. However, America Connected and its affiliates, suppliers, and agents have the right to monitor cargo shipments and passenger traffic from time to time for violations of this Policy and to disclose, block, or destroy them in accordance with this Policy, the Subscriber Agreement, and applicable law.
Well, you know, this would never have happened if we had just kept the government out of the business of building and maintaining roads. If the roads had been owned by a private profit-making enterprise, then when the revenues from the road fare could no longer support their maintenance, they would have just been sold off at auction or something.
I'll bet those roads wouldn't have to be ground up into gravel if they were owned by some sovereign wealth fund somewhere a few timezones away...
"It was designed so that anybody could be a client and anybody could be a server."
This is precisely why we deployed NAT and stateful filters everywhere in the Internet... to put a STOP to such nonsense. If the gods of the Internet had meant for just anyone to be able to run a server that could be reachable from anywhere, then they would have invented an end-to-end network security protocol for communicating between unauthenticated peers.
Probably, not a lot. Either at home or at the office. For a while.
At the office, wait until you need to grow past your current IPv4 allocation, or you find yourself wanting to do business with somebody who insists on communicating with you over IPv6 and not IPv4. That may take a while, depending on who you are.
At home, you might load the IPv6 version of DD-WRT firmware on your WRT54G and sign up for a free tunnel broker account. Then you can see The Dancing Google Log. I know: W00t!
Slashdot Mirror
Just put the internet behind a NAT64. Simple.
Fixed that for you.
>You are just stringing together words that you were taught bad people believe in and hoping one of them will stick.
No. I am not.
There is this thing called the Internet. It might help you learn enough to understand the joke so I don't have to humiliate you with a tedious explanation.
Give him succession? Really? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
> Screw the GOP and the DNC. How about if...
How about you started taking U.S. politics seriously instead of pretending you live in some libertarian socialist faerieland?
Somebody better book that site with SF Park and Rec right the fsck now.
It's very simple. IPv6 will save them money.
After the IPv4 free pool is exhausted, subscriber experiences using legacy software will start to such very badly, and word will get around that the cause is something in the Internet.
Subscribers may start hearing vaguely scary stories about carrier-grade IPv4/NATs that serve entire neighborhoods, and have heavily limited functionality, but almost nobody will understand a flipping word of it. Subscribers will only know their service providers are presenting them with two basic choices if they want the Internet to work right again: A) upgrade once to software that uses IPv6, or B) pay extra every month for a public IPv4 address at the subscriber gateway.
Most subscribers won't think about this decision at all rationally. They'll just switch to software that works better, and they won't think about which version of the Internet protocol they're using. This is how IPv6 will save them money.
I think they're delegating a /56 to each subscriber. Certainly shorter than a /64.
Put that AirPort base station (if it's the latest Extreme or Time Capsule product) on the Comcast IPv6 trial network, and you won't need to use a tunnel over IPv4. It'll route IPv6 natively.
Last I checked, their IPv6 trial networks were handing out prefixes shorter than /64. I'm predicting either /56 or /60 myself.
"so I am not sure why the OP says it doesn't require a VPN." ...because it doesn't use private addressing realms. Everything gets numbered out of the global address realm.
Cyclone has what you want here, and yes, Go also perpetuates Tony Hoare's Billion Dollar Mistake.
I'll do better than that. I'll give him my public IPv6 prefix at home. I'm at 2001:5a8:4:2290::/56 and the router is not even a firewall. Have fun port scanning me. Knock yourself out.
Anybody using an Apple wireless access point might conceivably need two subnets, i.e. one for the private home network and the other for the guest network.
They'll almost certainly be using DHCP6 with PD to hand out prefixes in the trials-- probably longer than /48 but shorter than /64. I'm guessing they will probably go with /56 if and when they roll out the commercial service, but I won't be shocked if we end up seeing /60 prefixes instead.
Well, I don't think you should be terribly surprised if Comcast decides you should be willing to pay extra (and agree to different terms of service) if you don't want your IPv4 address(es) to be walled off behind their Carrier Grade NAT.
Yes. We are serious this time.
II. Customer Conduct and Features of the Service
What obligations do I have under this Policy?
In addition to being responsible for your own compliance with this Policy, you are also responsible for any use or misuse of the Service that violates this Policy, even if it was committed by a friend, family member, or guest with access to your Service address. Therefore, you must take steps to ensure that others do not use your address to gain unauthorized access to the Service by, for example, strictly maintaining the confidentiality of your Service access credentials. In all cases, you are solely responsible for the security of any vehicle you choose to use with the Service, including any goods or other materials stored or transported on that vehicle. America Connected recommends against leaving vehicles parked unattended unless you do so in strict compliance with all security recommendations and features provided by America Connected and the manufacturer of the applicable vehicle security systems. Any goods or other materials you choose to make available at your home for neighborhood use, for example, should be protected with a strong authentication protocol or as otherwise appropriate.
It is also your responsibility to secure the automobiles, trucks and any other vehicles or equipment not provided by America Connected that use the Service from external threats such as criminal gangs, joyriders, hooligans, and other methods of degrading the utility of the Service to its user community.
How does America Connected address inappropriate usage and shipping?
America Connected reserves the right to refuse to carry or ship, and to remove or block, any goods or materials, in whole or in part, that it, in its sole discretion, deems to be in violation of Sections I or II of this Policy, or otherwise harmful to America Connected's network or customers using the Service, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is unlawful so long as it violates this Policy. Neither America Connected nor any of its affiliates, suppliers, or agents have any obligation to monitor cargo (including, but not limited to, food, clothing, water, fuel, sewage, building materials, as well as materials transported to and from the Personal Package Delivery and Temporary Container Storage services) or passenger transportation on the Service. However, America Connected and its affiliates, suppliers, and agents have the right to monitor cargo shipments and passenger traffic from time to time for violations of this Policy and to disclose, block, or destroy them in accordance with this Policy, the Subscriber Agreement, and applicable law.
Well, you know, this would never have happened if we had just kept the government out of the business of building and maintaining roads. If the roads had been owned by a private profit-making enterprise, then when the revenues from the road fare could no longer support their maintenance, they would have just been sold off at auction or something.
I'll bet those roads wouldn't have to be ground up into gravel if they were owned by some sovereign wealth fund somewhere a few timezones away...
Moderators, PLEASE vote this up with Informative.
...because multicast DNS zero-configuration networking is just TooHard for some people to use.
Would someone please explain to me how this comment got moderated "Score: 5. Informative" ?
"It was designed so that anybody could be a client and anybody could be a server."
This is precisely why we deployed NAT and stateful filters everywhere in the Internet... to put a STOP to such nonsense. If the gods of the Internet had meant for just anyone to be able to run a server that could be reachable from anywhere, then they would have invented an end-to-end network security protocol for communicating between unauthenticated peers.
Hee!
What should I be doing?
Probably, not a lot. Either at home or at the office. For a while.
At the office, wait until you need to grow past your current IPv4 allocation, or you find yourself wanting to do business with somebody who insists on communicating with you over IPv6 and not IPv4. That may take a while, depending on who you are.
At home, you might load the IPv6 version of DD-WRT firmware on your WRT54G and sign up for a free tunnel broker account. Then you can see The Dancing Google Log. I know: W00t!
Once the mobile phones are on v6, you're going to want...
No, your phone will tunnel IPv4 over IPv6 to get out of the mobile network through a NAT gateway. This is the Dual-stack Lite architecture.