well I have no Jag but if you do something to damage my *really nice expensive thing* which I worked for years to be able to afford simply because you're a lazy fucker who doesn't like that people who work hard have more than you then you should be fully liable for any and all damage you cause.
except that its App store related and a malicious app would NEVER be approved for distribution from the App store. Only takes a little bit of logic to understand the flaw in your thinking.
So I guess this function is there for no reason at all.
If by "debunked" you mean "some apple zombies noticed that the url contained letters which implied it refered to the Core Location framework" then yes. If by debunked you mean "confirmed by Steve Jobs" then you'd be correct. in other words. Take off the blinkers and don't parrot anything another apple fanboy has said which you like the sound of.
[quote]you are taking advantage of other's stupidity, and benefitting at their expense (very different from benefitting while benefitting others).[/quote] How is this wrong as long as you don't mislead them. If I try to sell a shiny piece of rock for a stupidly high price and even put up a big sign saying "THIS DOES NOTHING USEFUL, ALL IT DOES IS SHOW YOU CAN AFFORD IT!" How am I doing anything at all wrong? I haven't lied, I haven't cheated, I haven't climed my shiny rock will keep tigers away. I'm basicly saying "if you give me $1000 I will give you something to show you're so wealthy that you could give me $1000 for the hell of it." If someone chooses of their own free will to hand me money then who are you to say they shouldn't be allowed to spend their money how they wish.
"you encourage a culture of overconsumption, which, in the long term, is not sustainable for the projected populations we are looking at, and is not necessary." Ya cause making a copy of a piece of useless software puts such a strain on our natural environment. If you follow that argument then every industry based on selling status symbols is evil and immoral.
You'd have to be fairly retarded to "accidentally" buy this thing. Hell you'd have to be even more retarded to intentionally buy this thing. If apple included an extra confirmation screen for apps over say a hundred dollars it would also solve this.
"ethical standpoint"? How is there anything wrong with offering a useless piece of overpriced tat? You don't have to be amoral to do this. Hell I wish I'd come up with something this easy and effective. It wasn't misrepresented, it wasn't claimed to do anything it didn't. Where is the problem?
Apple really does have an incredible buisness model. Lesser companies work out what people want then try to provide that to them at the lowest cost. Apple tells it's fans what they should want and then sells it to them for a remarkably high price. I never would have thought such a system would work.
And this certainly isn't there to make sure they can blacklist any iphone breakout software that gets into the wild. God no! Apple cares about their customers! *Cough Cough Cough*
Bullshit. No matter what you think could happen either it's impossible or a number of the people reading your comment have already considered it and dismissed it. Anonymity is not hard to come by on the web. Hack any old WEP network and bounce through a few VPN's and proxies located in different countries which don't keep logs and the only people who are gonna be tracing you have magical powers and travel around in a truck built from unobtainium.
If I know a fair amount about the game I'll buy outright. If I don't know anything about the game I'll either grab a demo or a crack. If I don't like the game I'll stop at this point. If I do like the game : I have a partial demo and it's very very easy to buy[paypal and cheap] and obtain the game[steam] I'll probably buy. If I do like the game : I have a fully working crack, it's hard to get a full copy or the cracked version is less restrictive than the paid version [read, uncracked version calls home whenever I want to play single player] then the chances of me shelling out for the single version are slim.
1:Make it easier for me to buy your game than to steal it. 2:Make me feel safer with your version than the cracked one. I might get a virus or spyware with the cracked game but if I know for certain your game calls home every 5 minutes with an image of my ram then I'll go with the crack. 3:Make it reasonably cheap. I have no problem shelling out 15 or 20 bucks on a game and how much each person is willing to pay varies so this is the hardest one. If I can get the game in 20 minutes from your network [read steam] or in 3 hours from a pirate site that time has value to me and affects how much I'm willing to pay. I guess look at your target market.
option 4: Pay them a decent wage by the local standards,nothing amazing but enough that they live comfortably and can send their kids to school. Keep some decent safety standards in the factory even if the local government is too fucked up to have laws on workplace safety. End up with a product that's a few percent more expensive but still competetive. Get decent stock options and bonuses Keep your soul.
They also don't have to invest so much in training their workforce because of good education systems in those countries. Stable governments are a long term advantage. No language barrier for certain work can be a plus.
choice makes all the difference. The chinese workers are free to go if they want, they choose to work there.Nobody's gonna whip them if they try to go home. The slave has no choice.
As a side note even with the high min wage the employment rate was so good for a while there that they were having problems with highschool kids being hired away from school.
Ireland has a high minimum wage yes. For an experienced adult employee it is 8.65 per hour.(13.33 USD) Yet people generally aren't paid minimum wage for any kind of skilled job. Thing is that the cost of living is also quite high. As a student working part time I earned approx 15(23.11 USD) per hour. Yes I had a good job where I was treated/paid quite well.
And yet we've had a rate of economic growth these last few years you wouldn't believe.
well put although would you include workplace safety conditions in what isn't owed to people though since companies sometimes take advantage of the lack of legal requirements for safe working conditions in 3rd world countries. They set up shop and just don't tell the employees that the materials they're working with unprotected are known to kill/maim people a few years down the line.
how did you get the 3 months of vacation time? Does it carry over from year to year in your job? Here it's normal that vacation time does not carry over, if you don't use it this year then it's gone after a certain date and if you want holiday time it comes out of the next years allocation. Ever think you'll get a chance to use the holiday time?
You see people protesting the conditions in company X's plants in some country yet they never seem to realise that the best way to fix the problem would be for them to set up a buisness employing people in the same town for a slightly higher wage. With the exchange rate between 3rd world countries and the US anyone decenly well off could do this if they could come up with a good buisness plan.
damned if I know, when it comes to high end electronics it can be more economic to do your manufacturing in a developed nation since tooling the factory is such a large cost.
How about your shoes/shirt/watch/toothbrush/ore for the metal in your car etc etc etc.
"seek to set labor rates not based on supply and demand of workers but artificially by the threat of strikes"
The company can just fire every union member. If it's cheaper to raise their wages then obviously they weren't being paid their true value.
Yes unions can be a problem like when they object to non union members doing the same job but when they set wages it's equivilent to a number of workers getting together to that hiring a professional negotiator to bargain on their behalf becomes economic.
People always seem to have this idealistic view of farming of some kind of happy lifestyle with endless green grass and clean air. Fucking films. Subsistance farming means: -Hard fucking work at all hours. -If the weather's bad you starve, nobody's gonna step in and help you. -Either the farms halve or quarter in size each generation or the younger children have to go off and be beggers/labourers. -Almost no money. -Shitty leaky houses since nobody has much money and you can't hire a professional builder to do the job. -Mud,Shit, Sickness,Cold in winter,Heat in summer and not much to break the monotony of this apart from the occasional community event if things are going reasonably well for people that year.
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well I have no Jag but if you do something to damage my *really nice expensive thing* which I worked for years to be able to afford simply because you're a lazy fucker who doesn't like that people who work hard have more than you then you should be fully liable for any and all damage you cause.
except that its App store related and a malicious app would NEVER be approved for distribution from the App store. Only takes a little bit of logic to understand the flaw in your thinking.
So I guess this function is there for no reason at all.
If by "debunked" you mean "some apple zombies noticed that the url contained letters which implied it refered to the Core Location framework" then yes.
If by debunked you mean "confirmed by Steve Jobs" then you'd be correct.
in other words.
Take off the blinkers and don't parrot anything another apple fanboy has said which you like the sound of.
"when faced with someone blatantly flaunting their wealth, it's their problem when they're reminded how bitter their employment prospects look."
Exactly.
You have no kind of "right" to be protected from feeling envy.
[quote]you are taking advantage of other's stupidity, and benefitting at their expense (very different from benefitting while benefitting others).[/quote]
How is this wrong as long as you don't mislead them.
If I try to sell a shiny piece of rock for a stupidly high price and even put up a big sign saying "THIS DOES NOTHING USEFUL, ALL IT DOES IS SHOW YOU CAN AFFORD IT!"
How am I doing anything at all wrong?
I haven't lied, I haven't cheated, I haven't climed my shiny rock will keep tigers away.
I'm basicly saying "if you give me $1000 I will give you something to show you're so wealthy that you could give me $1000 for the hell of it."
If someone chooses of their own free will to hand me money then who are you to say they shouldn't be allowed to spend their money how they wish.
"you encourage a culture of overconsumption, which, in the long term, is not sustainable for the projected populations we are looking at, and is not necessary."
Ya cause making a copy of a piece of useless software puts such a strain on our natural environment.
If you follow that argument then every industry based on selling status symbols is evil and immoral.
You'd have to be fairly retarded to "accidentally" buy this thing.
Hell you'd have to be even more retarded to intentionally buy this thing.
If apple included an extra confirmation screen for apps over say a hundred dollars it would also solve this.
"ethical standpoint"?
How is there anything wrong with offering a useless piece of overpriced tat?
You don't have to be amoral to do this.
Hell I wish I'd come up with something this easy and effective.
It wasn't misrepresented, it wasn't claimed to do anything it didn't.
Where is the problem?
Apple really does have an incredible buisness model.
Lesser companies work out what people want then try to provide that to them at the lowest cost.
Apple tells it's fans what they should want and then sells it to them for a remarkably high price.
I never would have thought such a system would work.
I still don't get why it was pulled.
Let rich idiots throw their money away on tat.
10 points to the first person to brick some iphones with this!
And this certainly isn't there to make sure they can blacklist any iphone breakout software that gets into the wild.
God no!
Apple cares about their customers! *Cough Cough Cough*
Bullshit.
No matter what you think could happen either it's impossible or a number of the people reading your comment have already considered it and dismissed it.
Anonymity is not hard to come by on the web.
Hack any old WEP network and bounce through a few VPN's and proxies located in different countries which don't keep logs and the only people who are gonna be tracing you have magical powers and travel around in a truck built from unobtainium.
If I know a fair amount about the game I'll buy outright.
If I don't know anything about the game I'll either grab a demo or a crack.
If I don't like the game I'll stop at this point.
If I do like the game : I have a partial demo and it's very very easy to buy[paypal and cheap] and obtain the game[steam] I'll probably buy.
If I do like the game : I have a fully working crack, it's hard to get a full copy or the cracked version is less restrictive than the paid version [read, uncracked version calls home whenever I want to play single player] then the chances of me shelling out for the single version are slim.
1:Make it easier for me to buy your game than to steal it.
2:Make me feel safer with your version than the cracked one. I might get a virus or spyware with the cracked game but if I know for certain your game calls home every 5 minutes with an image of my ram then I'll go with the crack.
3:Make it reasonably cheap. I have no problem shelling out 15 or 20 bucks on a game and how much each person is willing to pay varies so this is the hardest one. If I can get the game in 20 minutes from your network [read steam] or in 3 hours from a pirate site that time has value to me and affects how much I'm willing to pay. I guess look at your target market.
And they called me a fool when I refused to learn website names WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!!
option 4:
Pay them a decent wage by the local standards,nothing amazing but enough that they live comfortably and can send their kids to school.
Keep some decent safety standards in the factory even if the local government is too fucked up to have laws on workplace safety.
End up with a product that's a few percent more expensive but still competetive.
Get decent stock options and bonuses
Keep your soul.
If he's free to leave at any time then there's nothing wrong with this particularly is it's a very decent wage for the local economy.
They also don't have to invest so much in training their workforce because of good education systems in those countries.
Stable governments are a long term advantage.
No language barrier for certain work can be a plus.
choice makes all the difference.
The chinese workers are free to go if they want, they choose to work there.Nobody's gonna whip them if they try to go home.
The slave has no choice.
As a side note even with the high min wage the employment rate was so good for a while there that they were having problems with highschool kids being hired away from school.
Ireland has a high minimum wage yes.
For an experienced adult employee it is 8.65 per hour.(13.33 USD)
Yet people generally aren't paid minimum wage for any kind of skilled job.
Thing is that the cost of living is also quite high.
As a student working part time I earned approx 15(23.11 USD) per hour.
Yes I had a good job where I was treated/paid quite well.
And yet we've had a rate of economic growth these last few years you wouldn't believe.
well put although would you include workplace safety conditions in what isn't owed to people though since companies sometimes take advantage of the lack of legal requirements for safe working conditions in 3rd world countries. They set up shop and just don't tell the employees that the materials they're working with unprotected are known to kill/maim people a few years down the line.
how did you get the 3 months of vacation time?
Does it carry over from year to year in your job? Here it's normal that vacation time does not carry over, if you don't use it this year then it's gone after a certain date and if you want holiday time it comes out of the next years allocation.
Ever think you'll get a chance to use the holiday time?
You see people protesting the conditions in company X's plants in some country yet they never seem to realise that the best way to fix the problem would be for them to set up a buisness employing people in the same town for a slightly higher wage.
With the exchange rate between 3rd world countries and the US anyone decenly well off could do this if they could come up with a good buisness plan.
damned if I know, when it comes to high end electronics it can be more economic to do your manufacturing in a developed nation since tooling the factory is such a large cost.
How about your shoes/shirt/watch/toothbrush/ore for the metal in your car etc etc etc.
"seek to set labor rates not based on supply and demand of workers but artificially by the threat of strikes"
The company can just fire every union member.
If it's cheaper to raise their wages then obviously they weren't being paid their true value.
Yes unions can be a problem like when they object to non union members doing the same job but when they set wages it's equivilent to a number of workers getting together to that hiring a professional negotiator to bargain on their behalf becomes economic.
People always seem to have this idealistic view of farming of some kind of happy lifestyle with endless green grass and clean air.
Fucking films.
Subsistance farming means:
-Hard fucking work at all hours.
-If the weather's bad you starve, nobody's gonna step in and help you.
-Either the farms halve or quarter in size each generation or the younger children have to go off and be beggers/labourers.
-Almost no money.
-Shitty leaky houses since nobody has much money and you can't hire a professional builder to do the job.
-Mud,Shit, Sickness,Cold in winter,Heat in summer and not much to break the monotony of this apart from the occasional community event if things are going reasonably well for people that year.