They could just like Novell for the fact that it's Novell... Do what they did with Lotus and buy them up, and continue their businesses as they were previously, but be able to add Novell networks as another thing they do under their services operation... And since they would be the owners of Novell, who would be to argue that they aren't the largest source of Netware expertise?
So far as caldera and SCO goes... SCO's much more scalablet than Linux, sorry it's true. SCO's got a large installed base. Even if they can't integrate all of SCO's code into their products, they can learn quite a bit by it, enough to fold into their internal developement in an attempt to get a leg up on Redhat, et al... But mostly for the name and the installed base, is my bet...
Well, you said it, but you didn't take the ball and run with it, so allow me...
How could anyone in their right mind write in to/. of all places and complain about a company attempting to make a profit from thier work? Slashdot is one of the most vocal Pro-Napster sites i've come across on the internet... And the case here is IDENTICAL to what's going on on Napster, except on Napster, it's worse because most of the music available through them is published with the intent of making at least a little money (if not, why sign with a label in the first place?).
It would seem that if anything, stealing, err... I mean, sharing(!), graduate theses' would be at least a little more acceptable, being that generally there isn't any money to be made from the act of writing a thesis.
I'll read on and shake my head in bewilderment as the/. crowd will invariably side against this company, yet will continue to cry foul when Napster does the same exact thing to music artists...
No... even if it sounded 10x better than an MP3, it'd still be absolutely pointless to convert an MP3, an already degraded sound, into another format.
Looking at the computer world as it is right now, the only way that it could really hope to catch on is if it was integrated into WinAmp, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player for starters, so that people could just merge this new format into their current collections...
I can't tell by the interview if that'll be possible though. Is it GPLed, or under a more BSDish type license that'll actually encourage people to integrate it into their products?
Is Star Office nearly as bad for Linux as it is for windows? I downloaded it the other day, installed it and launched it, only to have a new desktop manager with it's own "Start" button hovering just above Windows' Start button... All the Apps seemed pretty nice though, but Sun's instistance that it be not just a suite of apps, but a desktop replacement really irked me.
Too bad my video card goes unsupported by X, else i'd go investigate this myself... but i doubt any of these suites runs under bash.
At this point, anyone can basically fake their way through anything. I'd put more of the responsibility on whoever did your hiring, who just looked at their resume's and said "wow, your certified? Okay you've got a job." Not 100% responsibility, but at least 50-50.
Besides which, does NT certification even ask for any DOS knowledge (honest question, I've never taken the test...)
It's been my understanding that the reason that we exhale it is because it's waste. If we continue to breathe it and only it, we would die because our body can't remove the oxygen component from it.
There's no real incentive to do it if the game is 'just paying for itself'.
Given the choice, you could spend (pulling figures from thin air)$10 million to generate $30 million in sales, or spen $15 million to generate $35 million in sales. It really makes no sense to continue the later course of action. You'd end up with higher margins (what wall street and investors care about) and end up with exactly the same amount of money as if you never even thought about Linux in the first place.
Packing all the binaries onto one CD would be good for us, but it'd be a real pain for software publishers unless everyone started registering their software. One reason that they're realized separately, I've heard, is for the sole reason of being able to easily tally sales and figure out what percentage of sales were attributable to each OS. They're then able to take those numbers back to the developers and tell them what priority each OS's release should be. If Linux has 4% market share but only generates 1% of sales, it's a losing proposition to continue further development at the expense of other platforms. Whereas if Linux was resposible for 10% of sales, the CFO would be jumping on everyone's back to get that next linux release out the door...
Maybe if someone takes what Corel's done a few steps further, that will be a moot question.
An installer that could read the registry, and gather any network and hardware information would be really nice. Or how about installing Wine, and seemlessly migrating the apps that it finds that work with the current version over to the Linux install?
Just pop in the cd, press ok, reboot, and you've got a fully functional system, complete with all of your old software...
Like I want to watch the X-Files and here scully yell out "Hey, I got really tired from chasing that bad guy... Good thing I've got my Gatorade(TM) handy".
What else? Mulder walking around with a pocket full of slim jims?
You're asking for this? Product placements right now are very subtle. But if that's the only way a show has to earn money, they'll get blatant to the point that they're nearly unwatchable...
Nevermind that a standard full length movie would take even a DSL subscriber a while to download and once it's stored on the hard drive, it'll take up $20 or $30 worth of storage space.
Haven't you heard how in the computer world, things get faster smaller and cheaper all the time? Yes, right now downloading a DVD would be a daunting task for anyone. Yes, right now, storing it would be a pain as well. And yes, right now, downloading AIFF files would be an incredible chore.
But one day, next year or in five years, those will flow off the web like gif's and jpegs do right now. As for storing this data? What else will we have to do with our 500 GB/1 TB hard drives?
They're just launching pre-emptive strikes before the real damage to them can occur... No one want's to find themselves facing the industry's next "Napster", so every content provider will from now on jump on anyone that tries to do anything that they don't explicitly intend, in all likelyhood...
Voting booths, and their amazing low-tech privacy method (a cloth drawn behind you), literally beat the socks off of anything available in the digital world... Right now husbands and wives can cast separate votes on issues and not have it thrust in their faces, so they get by. What happens when voting is done from the den, with one person sitting right next to the other? What if they've been arguing about an issue for hours and one party just wants to get to sleep so they cast their vote, in plain site of the other, for something they don't necessarily agree with?
Aside from all the verification and other security concerns, confidentiality is one that had better not get overlooked.
Ahh... I multiplied bits and created bytes, accidentally. Seeing the numbers I had scratched out and realizing they were too large, i just took off a zero. Anyways, we're right in seing that there's no real advantage to Rambus now... Or RIGHT now there is, but for a huge cost premium, for a relatively small performance gain that will basically disappear in the coming year.
I don't understand them either. Huge market cap by having a product no one wants... They should go away pretty soon now that Intels disavowing them...
But back when Intel was being courted by Rambus, wasn't that back when we were still all using EDO RAM, or maybe even before? The point being, that Rambus quite literally blew everything out of the water when it was first being thought up, it was just that they and Intel negelected to realize that things like 66 MHz, 100 Mhz, and 133 MHz SDRAM were just over the horizon.
I've never understood it. If my math is correct:
a 66 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 422 MB/sec
a 100 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 640 MB/sec
a 400 MHz RDRAM RIMM (16 bit) = 640 MB/sec
a 133 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 850 MB/sec
a 800 MHz RDRAM DIMM (16 bit) = 1280 MB/sec
The payoff doesn't appear to be anywhere, at any speed. In it's 1st generation, it was on par with 100 MHz SDRAM. At 800 MHz (basically, when it sends data twice on one clock), it would dwarf anything currently available... But with royalties and such, it would seem that chipset manufacturers (Intel, Via, AMD) should do what Apple's done in the past and interleave their memory... Because once again, SDRAM would be at least equal to Rambus, and much cheaper (no patents, royalties, etc... so long as SOMEONE stands up and countersues Rambus for suing them for royalties related to SDRAM).
Of course, my math could be wrong. My understandings could be wrong. This could be meaningless...
I believe that Intel merely has options to buy up to 10% of the company at something absurdly low, like $2/share. The only money they've given them thus far is just in royalties for making their chipsets Rambus compatible (though maybe not? Maybe the royalties are just on memory manufacturers making RIMMS?).
So in the end, all intel will lose is a lot of face, a few hundred million dollars from the 820 motherboard fiasco, and a couple years of R&D. But that's all spent already, so they might as well brush themselves off and continue on...
Too bad you can't stick more than one Athlon in a box at a time, huh? Where as you can fit even 2 lowly celeron's into a motherboard and climb upwards from there. If you're doing anything really demanding, and require x86 for it's cost effectiveness, your only choice is Intel, due to the SMP-ability of them...
It's a perfect example, in my eyes... It was stuff that the original copyright holders owned and had neglected because their games had become dated and replaced by newer fancier games. They then saw that there was indeed demand for their classics, so they came foreward and rereleased them, so as to be the only ones able to make money off of their creations... It would be messed up if someone else besides them (the authors, creators, owners) could dictate how the games were distributed and make money off of the process... In the end we all win, they get their money, we (if we desire) get access to the classics in a legitamate fashion.
Don't like it? Make your own games... no one's stopping anyone from doing that. You just can't use their characters...
Well, look at MAME ROMS as an example... For years, no one was doing anything with them. Then companies realized that there was still indeed demand for their games, so they're releasing all of these "classic arcade" game CD-ROM's.
It's their right. They made them. They can decided what to do with them, just as I can write a book and then throw it into a burning trashcan if I so desire.
Are you going to start suing trolls on slashdot for needlessly consuming your bandwidth? If yes, go for it, if not, be quiet... You're not at all required to read, listen or anything else. You just need to download it and hit "delete"...
As for this discussion goes... no one here seems to have read up enough to realize that the whole controversy is stemming from the fact that MAPS blocked and opt-in list... Every person on it at one point or another signed up to be on it. And MAPS, knowing "better" than the puny end-user, decided they shouldn't get what they asked for!
From the other perspective, perhaps individual ISP's and companies should have to maintain their own lists... When people or companies converge, it often serves their interests prior to the public's interests. Things like oglipolies and price fixing result from companies cooperating too much...
The whole Harris case came up because, as far as I understand, 3 people out of 6.6 million complained. 3 people get's them barred from sending to the other 6.6 million...
If you don't take the time to read it, you'll see that Harris' list was an OPT-IN list. Everyone who was on it wanted to be on it. They asked to be on it. Yet with a simple flip of the switch, MAPS, which has no oversight, prevented them from reaching their customers.
Makes me think a government regulated internet might actually be better than the mismash we've got going on right now... At least then, people are actually accountable for things.
Someone just needs to make an x86 translator for the kernel, a la FX32!, so if it's for "Linux" it's for "Linux"... Yeah, you wouldn't want to run Oracle in emulation on an Alpha, but for something as lightweight as AIM, it wouldn't present any issue, I don't think...
Don't ask me though, i don't develope the stuff, i just use it...
Yes... these people are so much worse than the hackers that post exploits and binaries on their sites prior to even telling a given browser or server vendor in advance so that they can issue a patch for it...
And so much worse than those kids that hack web pages just to show that the level of security isn't up to snuff....
And so much worse than those Napster users spending their days and nights downloading mp3's which they have no right to have and then uploading them to the world...
No.
Seeing "www.ad-here.com - blink182.mp3" when you're searching for something constitutes an inconvenience, not an outright abuse, IMO...
Or just run them all simultaneously with the exact limits on processor usage. That way you'd make the same progress but benefit all the projects at once... Isn't that what preemptive multitasking and protected memory are all about?
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They could just like Novell for the fact that it's Novell... Do what they did with Lotus and buy them up, and continue their businesses as they were previously, but be able to add Novell networks as another thing they do under their services operation... And since they would be the owners of Novell, who would be to argue that they aren't the largest source of Netware expertise?
So far as caldera and SCO goes... SCO's much more scalablet than Linux, sorry it's true. SCO's got a large installed base. Even if they can't integrate all of SCO's code into their products, they can learn quite a bit by it, enough to fold into their internal developement in an attempt to get a leg up on Redhat, et al... But mostly for the name and the installed base, is my bet...
Well, you said it, but you didn't take the ball and run with it, so allow me...
/. of all places and complain about a company attempting to make a profit from thier work? Slashdot is one of the most vocal Pro-Napster sites i've come across on the internet... And the case here is IDENTICAL to what's going on on Napster, except on Napster, it's worse because most of the music available through them is published with the intent of making at least a little money (if not, why sign with a label in the first place?).
/. crowd will invariably side against this company, yet will continue to cry foul when Napster does the same exact thing to music artists...
How could anyone in their right mind write in to
It would seem that if anything, stealing, err... I mean, sharing(!), graduate theses' would be at least a little more acceptable, being that generally there isn't any money to be made from the act of writing a thesis.
I'll read on and shake my head in bewilderment as the
No... even if it sounded 10x better than an MP3, it'd still be absolutely pointless to convert an MP3, an already degraded sound, into another format.
Looking at the computer world as it is right now, the only way that it could really hope to catch on is if it was integrated into WinAmp, QuickTime, and Windows Media Player for starters, so that people could just merge this new format into their current collections...
I can't tell by the interview if that'll be possible though. Is it GPLed, or under a more BSDish type license that'll actually encourage people to integrate it into their products?
Is Star Office nearly as bad for Linux as it is for windows? I downloaded it the other day, installed it and launched it, only to have a new desktop manager with it's own "Start" button hovering just above Windows' Start button... All the Apps seemed pretty nice though, but Sun's instistance that it be not just a suite of apps, but a desktop replacement really irked me.
Too bad my video card goes unsupported by X, else i'd go investigate this myself... but i doubt any of these suites runs under bash.
At this point, anyone can basically fake their way through anything. I'd put more of the responsibility on whoever did your hiring, who just looked at their resume's and said "wow, your certified? Okay you've got a job." Not 100% responsibility, but at least 50-50.
Besides which, does NT certification even ask for any DOS knowledge (honest question, I've never taken the test...)
It's been my understanding that the reason that we exhale it is because it's waste. If we continue to breathe it and only it, we would die because our body can't remove the oxygen component from it.
Am i wrong?
There's no real incentive to do it if the game is 'just paying for itself'.
Given the choice, you could spend (pulling figures from thin air)$10 million to generate $30 million in sales, or spen $15 million to generate $35 million in sales. It really makes no sense to continue the later course of action. You'd end up with higher margins (what wall street and investors care about) and end up with exactly the same amount of money as if you never even thought about Linux in the first place.
Packing all the binaries onto one CD would be good for us, but it'd be a real pain for software publishers unless everyone started registering their software. One reason that they're realized separately, I've heard, is for the sole reason of being able to easily tally sales and figure out what percentage of sales were attributable to each OS. They're then able to take those numbers back to the developers and tell them what priority each OS's release should be. If Linux has 4% market share but only generates 1% of sales, it's a losing proposition to continue further development at the expense of other platforms. Whereas if Linux was resposible for 10% of sales, the CFO would be jumping on everyone's back to get that next linux release out the door...
Maybe if someone takes what Corel's done a few steps further, that will be a moot question.
An installer that could read the registry, and gather any network and hardware information would be really nice. Or how about installing Wine, and seemlessly migrating the apps that it finds that work with the current version over to the Linux install?
Just pop in the cd, press ok, reboot, and you've got a fully functional system, complete with all of your old software...
You know, you can take something to get rid of that cough of yours... You really seem to be coughing up a storm today ;)
Like I want to watch the X-Files and here scully yell out "Hey, I got really tired from chasing that bad guy... Good thing I've got my Gatorade(TM) handy".
What else? Mulder walking around with a pocket full of slim jims?
You're asking for this? Product placements right now are very subtle. But if that's the only way a show has to earn money, they'll get blatant to the point that they're nearly unwatchable...
Nevermind that a standard full length movie would take even a DSL subscriber a while to download and once it's stored on the hard drive, it'll take up $20 or $30 worth of storage space.
Haven't you heard how in the computer world, things get faster smaller and cheaper all the time? Yes, right now downloading a DVD would be a daunting task for anyone. Yes, right now, storing it would be a pain as well. And yes, right now, downloading AIFF files would be an incredible chore.
But one day, next year or in five years, those will flow off the web like gif's and jpegs do right now. As for storing this data? What else will we have to do with our 500 GB/1 TB hard drives?
They're just launching pre-emptive strikes before the real damage to them can occur... No one want's to find themselves facing the industry's next "Napster", so every content provider will from now on jump on anyone that tries to do anything that they don't explicitly intend, in all likelyhood...
Voting booths, and their amazing low-tech privacy method (a cloth drawn behind you), literally beat the socks off of anything available in the digital world... Right now husbands and wives can cast separate votes on issues and not have it thrust in their faces, so they get by. What happens when voting is done from the den, with one person sitting right next to the other? What if they've been arguing about an issue for hours and one party just wants to get to sleep so they cast their vote, in plain site of the other, for something they don't necessarily agree with?
Aside from all the verification and other security concerns, confidentiality is one that had better not get overlooked.
I know... shocking, isn't it???
But I wonder, what about dejanews.com, or are the ads too much to takle?
Of course, one coudl always revert to a standard news reader, get onto usenet, and forgo the middleman altogether, couldn't they???
Ahh... I multiplied bits and created bytes, accidentally. Seeing the numbers I had scratched out and realizing they were too large, i just took off a zero. Anyways, we're right in seing that there's no real advantage to Rambus now... Or RIGHT now there is, but for a huge cost premium, for a relatively small performance gain that will basically disappear in the coming year.
I don't understand them either. Huge market cap by having a product no one wants... They should go away pretty soon now that Intels disavowing them...
But back when Intel was being courted by Rambus, wasn't that back when we were still all using EDO RAM, or maybe even before? The point being, that Rambus quite literally blew everything out of the water when it was first being thought up, it was just that they and Intel negelected to realize that things like 66 MHz, 100 Mhz, and 133 MHz SDRAM were just over the horizon.
I've never understood it. If my math is correct:
a 66 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 422 MB/sec
a 100 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 640 MB/sec
a 400 MHz RDRAM RIMM (16 bit) = 640 MB/sec
a 133 MHz SDRAM DIMM (64 bit) = 850 MB/sec
a 800 MHz RDRAM DIMM (16 bit) = 1280 MB/sec
The payoff doesn't appear to be anywhere, at any speed. In it's 1st generation, it was on par with 100 MHz SDRAM. At 800 MHz (basically, when it sends data twice on one clock), it would dwarf anything currently available... But with royalties and such, it would seem that chipset manufacturers (Intel, Via, AMD) should do what Apple's done in the past and interleave their memory... Because once again, SDRAM would be at least equal to Rambus, and much cheaper (no patents, royalties, etc... so long as SOMEONE stands up and countersues Rambus for suing them for royalties related to SDRAM).
Of course, my math could be wrong. My understandings could be wrong. This could be meaningless...
I believe that Intel merely has options to buy up to 10% of the company at something absurdly low, like $2/share. The only money they've given them thus far is just in royalties for making their chipsets Rambus compatible (though maybe not? Maybe the royalties are just on memory manufacturers making RIMMS?).
So in the end, all intel will lose is a lot of face, a few hundred million dollars from the 820 motherboard fiasco, and a couple years of R&D. But that's all spent already, so they might as well brush themselves off and continue on...
Too bad you can't stick more than one Athlon in a box at a time, huh? Where as you can fit even 2 lowly celeron's into a motherboard and climb upwards from there. If you're doing anything really demanding, and require x86 for it's cost effectiveness, your only choice is Intel, due to the SMP-ability of them...
It's a perfect example, in my eyes... It was stuff that the original copyright holders owned and had neglected because their games had become dated and replaced by newer fancier games. They then saw that there was indeed demand for their classics, so they came foreward and rereleased them, so as to be the only ones able to make money off of their creations... It would be messed up if someone else besides them (the authors, creators, owners) could dictate how the games were distributed and make money off of the process... In the end we all win, they get their money, we (if we desire) get access to the classics in a legitamate fashion.
Don't like it? Make your own games... no one's stopping anyone from doing that. You just can't use their characters...
Well, look at MAME ROMS as an example... For years, no one was doing anything with them. Then companies realized that there was still indeed demand for their games, so they're releasing all of these "classic arcade" game CD-ROM's.
It's their right. They made them. They can decided what to do with them, just as I can write a book and then throw it into a burning trashcan if I so desire.
Are you going to start suing trolls on slashdot for needlessly consuming your bandwidth? If yes, go for it, if not, be quiet... You're not at all required to read, listen or anything else. You just need to download it and hit "delete"...
As for this discussion goes... no one here seems to have read up enough to realize that the whole controversy is stemming from the fact that MAPS blocked and opt-in list... Every person on it at one point or another signed up to be on it. And MAPS, knowing "better" than the puny end-user, decided they shouldn't get what they asked for!
From the other perspective, perhaps individual ISP's and companies should have to maintain their own lists... When people or companies converge, it often serves their interests prior to the public's interests. Things like oglipolies and price fixing result from companies cooperating too much...
The whole Harris case came up because, as far as I understand, 3 people out of 6.6 million complained. 3 people get's them barred from sending to the other 6.6 million...
WHy not give this article a read? And read this one, too, for some background.
If you don't take the time to read it, you'll see that Harris' list was an OPT-IN list. Everyone who was on it wanted to be on it. They asked to be on it. Yet with a simple flip of the switch, MAPS, which has no oversight, prevented them from reaching their customers.
Makes me think a government regulated internet might actually be better than the mismash we've got going on right now... At least then, people are actually accountable for things.
Someone just needs to make an x86 translator for the kernel, a la FX32!, so if it's for "Linux" it's for "Linux"... Yeah, you wouldn't want to run Oracle in emulation on an Alpha, but for something as lightweight as AIM, it wouldn't present any issue, I don't think...
Don't ask me though, i don't develope the stuff, i just use it...
Yes... these people are so much worse than the hackers that post exploits and binaries on their sites prior to even telling a given browser or server vendor in advance so that they can issue a patch for it...
And so much worse than those kids that hack web pages just to show that the level of security isn't up to snuff....
And so much worse than those Napster users spending their days and nights downloading mp3's which they have no right to have and then uploading them to the world...
No.
Seeing "www.ad-here.com - blink182.mp3" when you're searching for something constitutes an inconvenience, not an outright abuse, IMO...
Or just run them all simultaneously with the exact limits on processor usage. That way you'd make the same progress but benefit all the projects at once... Isn't that what preemptive multitasking and protected memory are all about?