Or you might find that
OOo is faster, better, cheaper and, though it goes without saying, is supported on more platforms and uses an open file format.
You really got me on that one!
You made me read the whole article, and nowhere in that study, nowhere, does it say that OOo is faster than MS Office. Nowhere does it say that OOo is better than MS Office (or perhaps, it says so in many different ways, about as many as it says the opposite).
(Now, just because of that, you also got me to read everything about trolls, including "Naked and Petrified" and "Oh how I love American students", on Wikipedia and elsewhere. Thanks.)
Taking this into consideration, Linux is "Production/Stable". How long before it's mature... who knows. Maybe (IMHO) more user-friendliness (i.e. idiot-proof) in installation/configuration, and being hardware friendly. *shrugs* ?:-/
Uh, he was talking about the Linux kernel, you know. I don't really see why it needs to be "idiot-proof in installation/configuration".
I'm not sure when this feature was introduced into Fedora (I'm on core 2 at the moment), but when I stick a writeable CD into my drive, an explorer-like window comes up. I drag files into it, then select "burn cd" from the file menu. I haven't installed any extra software to do this.
I think this is much easier than what Windows offers right now (although it's missing a "burn ISO image" feature).
I don't know what Fedora uses to accomplish this (I'm on Debian) but on my system Nautilus handles burning in this manner. It's just as you say: Open the location burn:/// (or something similar) and drag the files there. However, on my system this works with ISO-images too. In fact, then it's even easier, just right click on the ISO and select "Burn image to CD" or something like that.
This is just for data-CDs though, Nautilus doesn't handle music-CDs yet, which is a shame. K3B is ok but I really think it's interface isn't clean enough. It's easy to use but the interface just has a clunky feel IMO.
I use it all the time for testing my PalmOS project: the PalmOS emulator has a "Gremlins" mode that throws random events at your application constantly. My basic rule is that if it survives 300,000 events without crashing, there should be no major problems.
This is very similar to what the Swedish Jargon File refers to as "Mathiasmetoden" ("The Mathias method"):
"Efficient method for debugging of programs. You put both palms on the keyboard and hammer away for 20 minutes. If the program is still alive, it's idiot-proof. (Named after Mathias Båge, the only hacker who can type in bolero tempo on a keyboard). Also called the elbow test, since it can also be done by putting the elbow on the keyboard."
Link. Note: This translation from Swedish is mine, and it's not perfect in any sense of the word.
The great grandparent of this post writes something that either has got to be meant as a joke, or is just plain Stupid:
"It would actually mean that Microsoft built the SP2 updates with a new compiler that basically eliminates any possibility of buffer overflows."
He gets 5: Interesting (which means that at least three people have been sitting in front of their monitor, thinking, "Duuude! Uh, yeah, maybe M$ has some secret supercompiler that removes all bugs. DUUDE!").
The parent writes something that's actually a quote straight from MS changelog for SP2:
""core Windows components have been recompiled with the most recent version of our compiler technology, which provides added protection against buffer overruns."
And get modded 5: Funny!? I mean, all right, not everybody on here is a developer but please, a reality check might be in order!
I won't get into your beef with Gnome, KDE and their alleged overweight. I do, however, find it very unlikely that a 1GZ Athlon would have a constant load of 1.0+, running only KDE/Gnome and a few apps. You mention that you switched distros at the same time; might it not be so that Fedora ran a lot of daemons and stuff that Slack does not (by default)?
I mean, constant 1.0+ load and constant swapping on a 1GZ machine, that's not the Gnome I know at least.
I'm not really sure, but I would bet my dollars on Lisp (as previously stated by another post), if nothing else. Of course, when anyone is looking for prior art on software patents, Lisp seems to be one of the first candidates. Now I'm only talking about the patent Kodak sued Sun upon, regarding the virtual machine. Don't really know what difference they make of a VM and an interpreter though.
I'm not sure exactly what the other patents cover, but another posted mentioned that CORBA might be 'infringing'. In that case, CORBA is prior art, since it appeared in 1991.
I think the two things that libraries do have going for them [...]
Uh, have you ever thought about the people working in libraries? Maybe you haven't. Anyway, they're called librarians, and they are highly trained professionals, skilled in the art of organization and retrieving information. I'd say that librarians is a thing libraries have going for them...
That's not to say that librarians would still work in an electronic library of some sort, but the library of the future will definately not be just a server standing by itself and serving out texts to people.
I've read about different tests like this one, too, but even though they are very interesting, many of the people that are generally found very attractive (supermodels and such) have some "exaggerated feature" that makes them stand out. I find that even though many successful models have very "average" faces (in the sense of the word used in the parent post), the ones that make it to the absolute top have some small "abnormity", such as a big nose, a mouche or very high cheek bones.
No, it's not. It may well be the first real public web application with major impact, but it's definately not the "first real web application". A friend of mine is an extremely skilled DHTML/JavaScript programmer (and he's fluent in Perl and good in Java too), and at his previous employment he developed a very nice, "local-feeling" web application. I'm sure there are countless examples like this.
How many of them can let you view email "received" on a different machine?
All of those supporting IMAP. Regarding your remark about applications working on Windows, Linux and Mac OS, well, let me put it this way: Most people only use one of them. I agree that a web interface to the mail server is nice, though.
While I agree that GMail is a very nice application indeed, some of your points are moot.
As other have previously noted, "grouping by subject" (more commonly known as threading) has been around for a great while, even if it may not be "in quite the manner of GMail".
And, though again it's not quite like in GMail, at least Evolution (a very nice MUA indeed) has something called virtual folders. With these, you can keep all your email in one folder and define virtual folders for it, such as "mail from sheetrock", "unread mail to email1@domain.com", "non-spam" or any combination of the built-in search filters.
I keep all my mail on a IMAP server which I control myself, and searches in general are fast, especially searches on header fields since these are always downloaded and available locally.
What still would be nice (now I'm definately stuck in the folder 'metaphor' here) is the ability to create Sieve scripts via Evolution.
As do I, although most of what I use is on Linux. That may be hard for Windows people to believe, but it is true.
Eh? I exclusively use Linux, as do many people I know and have worked with, and I assume a great deal of the/. crowd too. Why would anybody find that hard to believe?
I agree with the grandparent though, it's silly to become religious. I really can't understand this whole ESR "we must make everybody use FOSS" crap. Actually, I find it easier to understand RMS' whole 'for the cause' idea, because he was hurt when the proprietary software boom started, and his idea about Free Sortware is part of some kind of philosophy. ESR and his drones (which/. is abundant in) are just annoying. What's this "ooh I have to convince all of my friends to run Linix instead of Winblows" nonsense? It's just annoying.
I'm fine if my tax kronors don't end up in Billy G's pockets (which they do, thank you very much, since Swedish govermental institutions really seem to love MS), and if I can run my platform of choice at work (which has never been a problem, much less so now since I'm self-employed).
Oh, that became quite a rant. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings in the process.
Go to the consumer-branded website: http://java.com
Um... I've been a Java developer for about 5 years, and I've never seen that website. Now, can someone please tell me why Sun has put fscking RINGTONES on their Java site!?
First, it's the EC and their stance that "Linux would disappear" - this makes me a bit happy, 'cause it means they'vre probably tried to understand what the fsck the case is about. On the other hand, it gives us a hint as to how much we can expect our politicians to actually understand about these matters. I really don't think, though, that it's too much to ask from an assistant to a member of the Commission to just explain that Linux is on more hardware than just Samba servers.
The other funny thing, which is absolutely hilarious, is that Microsoft's general counsel Brad Smith doesn't "know any person at Linux or any Linux programmers who share the Commission's view."
What, I know several people at Linux, they say it's a great place to work and they have a beautiful campus and stuff...
I use SA 2.63 on a Debian system. Since upgrading from 2.20 and at the same time starting to use Vipul's Razor (as well as setting up sa-learn to use the same bayes_seen and bayes_toks files as amavis, which wasn't intuitive on Debian), I have literally ZERO false negatives, while still working on a few false positives (mass-mailings from Def Jam, Roskilde Festival and one or two more).
If the difference in performance is as big as you say, though, I might look into doing an upgrade.
Funny you should ask that, since all of the iRiver iHP/H Series players have built-in mic, (amplified) microphone input and line-in, as well as (IIRC) S/PDIF in and out, and has had this for years.
If you need really high quality, just get an amplified mic or external amplifier, or build your own.
I'm a little fuzzy on the relationship between Ericsson and SonyEricsson.
Also, what's the relationship of Sony to SonyEricsson? I've had a lot of frustration with Sony and Bluetooth support in the USA.
Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications was established in 2001 by telecommunications leader Ericsson and consumer electronics powerhouse Sony Corporation. The company is equally owned by Ericsson and Sony.
Apart from all the very nice syncing of address books between phone, PDA and computer (which I'm very suprised not everyone is doing today, I'd thought that to be a major feature like 5 years ago) I think that using your Sony Ericsson T6[1,3]0 to control your iTunes remotely is pretty useful. And chicks dig it, too.;)
Heh. It sounds as if you're American. Sony Ericsson has been doing major inroads the last year and a half or so, mostly at Nokia's expense. You see, while all of Nokia's phones look like an alien has designed them, Sony Ericsson's actually look nice, and they are almost all very feature packed.
Then again, you wouldn't know if you live in the US, since you lot have been 2-3 years behind in mobile telephony adoption for the last 10 years.
Heh, I realize now: Two years without reinstalling the PC is quite a landmark. Go Gentoo...
Two years? I've been running the same installation of Debian for four years on 4-5 different computers at three different jobs. Just switching disks and kernels from time to time.
I always find it amusing when people talk about reinstalling systems (or even "upgrading" by doing a new install!), 'cause it's been so long since I last had to install an OS.
Actually, I've been thinking about this (regarding your menu-idea) for a while and yesterday I filed a wishlist bug to Debian's Menu package. The bug doesn't seem to be in the system yet but here is the text:
I have a pretty neat idea for an extension to Debian's menu system,
which would allow for simple but powerful package management. The idea
is to use the information about categories of Debian packages, and
include a sub-menu for each menu category, called something like
"available packages in...".
Under this sub-menu, a selection of not installed packages would have
one menu item each. When a menu item is clicked, the user is prompted
for the root password (or her own, à la sudo, if appropriate),
a simple, graphical apt-get-like program is invoked, and the package
is installed along with it's dependancies.
Say, for instance, the user is wanting to play a game. She checks under
Debian Menu->Games->Board, but alas, all she sees is Gnome Mahjongg. She
doesn't feel like playing Mahjongg, so she looks under "available...".
There she sees (grayed out, or something like that) Gnome Iagno, with a
nice mouse-over explanation of course. She clicks it, and a dialog pops
up. Do you want to install Gnome Iagno? Yes. Root password? These
packages are needed to install Iagno, do you wish to continue, etc.
These enhancements may, perhaps, reside somewhere else than in the menu
package, but I've been thinking about this for a while and this seems
like the nicest way to add a simple, user friendly, but still powerful
package management tool.
Oh my god. I'm laughing like a freak now. I had no idea what ixemul.library was (I checked it up now though) and I thought it had something to do with XML, 'cause "ix em ul" is pretty much exactly how French people say "XML". We used to joke pretty much about that were I used to work, 'cause I went on a few business trips to France around 2000 when XML was all the rage.
And zen, ze applickatsion invockates ze ixemul.librrarrrii...
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You really got me on that one!
You made me read the whole article, and nowhere in that study, nowhere, does it say that OOo is faster than MS Office. Nowhere does it say that OOo is better than MS Office (or perhaps, it says so in many different ways, about as many as it says the opposite).
(Now, just because of that, you also got me to read everything about trolls, including "Naked and Petrified" and "Oh how I love American students", on Wikipedia and elsewhere. Thanks.)
Actually, I wouldn't say it is you who is the moron. It's a bad implementation. See this bug, though.
Uh, he was talking about the Linux kernel, you know. I don't really see why it needs to be "idiot-proof in installation/configuration".
I don't know what Fedora uses to accomplish this (I'm on Debian) but on my system Nautilus handles burning in this manner. It's just as you say: Open the location burn:/// (or something similar) and drag the files there. However, on my system this works with ISO-images too. In fact, then it's even easier, just right click on the ISO and select "Burn image to CD" or something like that.
This is just for data-CDs though, Nautilus doesn't handle music-CDs yet, which is a shame. K3B is ok but I really think it's interface isn't clean enough. It's easy to use but the interface just has a clunky feel IMO.
This is very similar to what the Swedish Jargon File refers to as "Mathiasmetoden" ("The Mathias method"):
"Efficient method for debugging of programs. You put both palms on the keyboard and hammer away for 20 minutes. If the program is still alive, it's idiot-proof. (Named after Mathias Båge, the only hacker who can type in bolero tempo on a keyboard). Also called the elbow test, since it can also be done by putting the elbow on the keyboard."
Link.
Note: This translation from Swedish is mine, and it's not perfect in any sense of the word.
Wait a second...
The great grandparent of this post writes something that either has got to be meant as a joke, or is just plain Stupid:
"It would actually mean that Microsoft built the SP2 updates with a new compiler that basically eliminates any possibility of buffer overflows."
He gets 5: Interesting (which means that at least three people have been sitting in front of their monitor, thinking, "Duuude! Uh, yeah, maybe M$ has some secret supercompiler that removes all bugs. DUUDE!").
The parent writes something that's actually a quote straight from MS changelog for SP2:
""core Windows components have been recompiled with the most recent version of our compiler technology, which provides added protection against buffer overruns."
And get modded 5: Funny!? I mean, all right, not everybody on here is a developer but please, a reality check might be in order!
I won't get into your beef with Gnome, KDE and their alleged overweight. I do, however, find it very unlikely that a 1GZ Athlon would have a constant load of 1.0+, running only KDE/Gnome and a few apps. You mention that you switched distros at the same time; might it not be so that Fedora ran a lot of daemons and stuff that Slack does not (by default)?
I mean, constant 1.0+ load and constant swapping on a 1GZ machine, that's not the Gnome I know at least.
I'm not really sure, but I would bet my dollars on Lisp (as previously stated by another post), if nothing else. Of course, when anyone is looking for prior art on software patents, Lisp seems to be one of the first candidates. Now I'm only talking about the patent Kodak sued Sun upon, regarding the virtual machine. Don't really know what difference they make of a VM and an interpreter though.
I'm not sure exactly what the other patents cover, but another posted mentioned that CORBA might be 'infringing'. In that case, CORBA is prior art, since it appeared in 1991.
Did I mention I like Lisp?
Oh, I thought it was the same in English as in french. I meant a mole, a small birthmark in the face, à la Cindy Crawford.
I think the two things that libraries do have going for them [...]
Uh, have you ever thought about the people working in libraries? Maybe you haven't. Anyway, they're called librarians, and they are highly trained professionals, skilled in the art of organization and retrieving information. I'd say that librarians is a thing libraries have going for them...
That's not to say that librarians would still work in an electronic library of some sort, but the library of the future will definately not be just a server standing by itself and serving out texts to people.
I've read about different tests like this one, too, but even though they are very interesting, many of the people that are generally found very attractive (supermodels and such) have some "exaggerated feature" that makes them stand out. I find that even though many successful models have very "average" faces (in the sense of the word used in the parent post), the ones that make it to the absolute top have some small "abnormity", such as a big nose, a mouche or very high cheek bones.
No, it's not. It may well be the first real public web application with major impact, but it's definately not the "first real web application". A friend of mine is an extremely skilled DHTML/JavaScript programmer (and he's fluent in Perl and good in Java too), and at his previous employment he developed a very nice, "local-feeling" web application. I'm sure there are countless examples like this.
All of those supporting IMAP. Regarding your remark about applications working on Windows, Linux and Mac OS, well, let me put it this way: Most people only use one of them. I agree that a web interface to the mail server is nice, though.
While I agree that GMail is a very nice application indeed, some of your points are moot.
As other have previously noted, "grouping by subject" (more commonly known as threading) has been around for a great while, even if it may not be "in quite the manner of GMail".
And, though again it's not quite like in GMail, at least Evolution (a very nice MUA indeed) has something called virtual folders. With these, you can keep all your email in one folder and define virtual folders for it, such as "mail from sheetrock", "unread mail to email1@domain.com", "non-spam" or any combination of the built-in search filters.
I keep all my mail on a IMAP server which I control myself, and searches in general are fast, especially searches on header fields since these are always downloaded and available locally.
What still would be nice (now I'm definately stuck in the folder 'metaphor' here) is the ability to create Sieve scripts via Evolution.
As do I, although most of what I use is on Linux. That may be hard for Windows people to believe, but it is true.
/. crowd too.
/. is abundant in) are just annoying. What's this "ooh I have to convince all of my friends to run Linix instead of Winblows" nonsense? It's just annoying.
Eh? I exclusively use Linux, as do many people I know and have worked with, and I assume a great deal of the
Why would anybody find that hard to believe?
I agree with the grandparent though, it's silly to become religious. I really can't understand this whole ESR "we must make everybody use FOSS" crap. Actually, I find it easier to understand RMS' whole 'for the cause' idea, because he was hurt when the proprietary software boom started, and his idea about Free Sortware is part of some kind of philosophy. ESR and his drones (which
I'm fine if my tax kronors don't end up in Billy G's pockets (which they do, thank you very much, since Swedish govermental institutions really seem to love MS), and if I can run my platform of choice at work (which has never been a problem, much less so now since I'm self-employed).
Oh, that became quite a rant. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings in the process.
Go to the consumer-branded website: http://java.com
Um... I've been a Java developer for about 5 years, and I've never seen that website. Now, can someone please tell me why Sun has put fscking RINGTONES on their Java site!?
First, it's the EC and their stance that "Linux would disappear" - this makes me a bit happy, 'cause it means they'vre probably tried to understand what the fsck the case is about. On the other hand, it gives us a hint as to how much we can expect our politicians to actually understand about these matters. I really don't think, though, that it's too much to ask from an assistant to a member of the Commission to just explain that Linux is on more hardware than just Samba servers.
The other funny thing, which is absolutely hilarious, is that Microsoft's general counsel Brad Smith doesn't "know any person at Linux or any Linux programmers who share the Commission's view."
What, I know several people at Linux, they say it's a great place to work and they have a beautiful campus and stuff...
I use SA 2.63 on a Debian system. Since upgrading from 2.20 and at the same time starting to use Vipul's Razor (as well as setting up sa-learn to use the same bayes_seen and bayes_toks files as amavis, which wasn't intuitive on Debian), I have literally ZERO false negatives, while still working on a few false positives (mass-mailings from Def Jam, Roskilde Festival and one or two more).
If the difference in performance is as big as you say, though, I might look into doing an upgrade.
Funny you should ask that, since all of the iRiver iHP/H Series players have built-in mic, (amplified) microphone input and line-in, as well as (IIRC) S/PDIF in and out, and has had this for years.
If you need really high quality, just get an amplified mic or external amplifier, or build your own.
Check your facts.
Déjà vu?
Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications was established in 2001 by telecommunications leader Ericsson and consumer electronics powerhouse Sony Corporation. The company is equally owned by Ericsson and Sony.
Apart from all the very nice syncing of address books between phone, PDA and computer (which I'm very suprised not everyone is doing today, I'd thought that to be a major feature like 5 years ago) I think that using your Sony Ericsson T6[1,3]0 to control your iTunes remotely is pretty useful. And chicks dig it, too. ;)
Heh. It sounds as if you're American. Sony Ericsson has been doing major inroads the last year and a half or so, mostly at Nokia's expense. You see, while all of Nokia's phones look like an alien has designed them, Sony Ericsson's actually look nice, and they are almost all very feature packed.
Then again, you wouldn't know if you live in the US, since you lot have been 2-3 years behind in mobile telephony adoption for the last 10 years.
Heh, I realize now: Two years without reinstalling the PC is quite a landmark. Go Gentoo...
Two years? I've been running the same installation of Debian for four years on 4-5 different computers at three different jobs. Just switching disks and kernels from time to time.
I always find it amusing when people talk about reinstalling systems (or even "upgrading" by doing a new install!), 'cause it's been so long since I last had to install an OS.
Actually, I've been thinking about this (regarding your menu-idea) for a while and yesterday I filed a wishlist bug to Debian's Menu package. The bug doesn't seem to be in the system yet but here is the text:
I have a pretty neat idea for an extension to Debian's menu system, which would allow for simple but powerful package management. The idea is to use the information about categories of Debian packages, and include a sub-menu for each menu category, called something like "available packages in...".
Under this sub-menu, a selection of not installed packages would have one menu item each. When a menu item is clicked, the user is prompted for the root password (or her own, à la sudo, if appropriate), a simple, graphical apt-get-like program is invoked, and the package is installed along with it's dependancies.
Say, for instance, the user is wanting to play a game. She checks under Debian Menu->Games->Board, but alas, all she sees is Gnome Mahjongg. She doesn't feel like playing Mahjongg, so she looks under "available...". There she sees (grayed out, or something like that) Gnome Iagno, with a nice mouse-over explanation of course. She clicks it, and a dialog pops up. Do you want to install Gnome Iagno? Yes. Root password? These packages are needed to install Iagno, do you wish to continue, etc.
These enhancements may, perhaps, reside somewhere else than in the menu package, but I've been thinking about this for a while and this seems like the nicest way to add a simple, user friendly, but still powerful package management tool.
Oh my god. I'm laughing like a freak now. I had no idea what ixemul.library was (I checked it up now though) and I thought it had something to do with XML, 'cause "ix em ul" is pretty much exactly how French people say "XML". We used to joke pretty much about that were I used to work, 'cause I went on a few business trips to France around 2000 when XML was all the rage.
And zen, ze applickatsion invockates ze ixemul.librrarrrii...
Thanks for the laugh.