And assholes like you are the reason this country is in such bad shape, assholes like Bush who can't admit when they're wrong.
t0rkm3 provided you with information that proved you didn't have all the facts in the matter and when given that opportunity, instead of using that opportunity to reassess your position (because, in case you didn't realize it, you were irrefutably wrong) you reply to t0rkm3 with "Please try to do basic sanity checks on what you quote, to see if it actually supports your premise."
Guess what asshole? It did. YOU created the "fact" that "there's a little over a year's worth of readily accessible oil in Bakken, not the 174 hundred billion barrels you originally claimed." Read the god damned link. It does not say what you claim there, it says
2.1 billion barrels were technically recoverable with current technology.
. That in no way resembles your statement, made immediately after you were proven wrong.
So, instead of intelligently assessing the argument and admitting you were factually wrong about a major point in your post, you lie, attack the person who proved you wrong, and then pretend you were right all along.
How do you have time to post of Slashdot when you're running the country Mr. Bush?
"The AC was implying that if he was presented something with what he didn't want to hear, he would just dismiss it out of hand"
He did.
"Instead he found his own sources that countered directly what the guy had to say to show that it wasn't a credible source. "
ACTUALLY what he did was find information that confirmed what OP said (and do you even know what "credible source" means? It was CNN you moron) and then drew his own conclusions. NOTHING he posted refuted ANYTHING OP said, so learn to read better or stop lying.
"Grow up. You are the one trying to use debate techniques that detract from the actual point of the argument."
The point of the argument is people like you are fucking zombies, and any attempt to discuss issues about your candidate are met with vitriol and lies.
"who is blithely ignoring the comments of the person (s)he is trying to argue with."
Well, when the comments consist of repeatedly saying "NUH UH OBAMA IS THE BESTEST!!!" to every criticism raised, is it really that hard to think people will ignore it?
Of course, I'm not an Obama slurper, I actually like to examine the policies of my candidiates, so you thinking I'm a "whiny douchbag" for not shoving my head 8 inches up his ass with yours makes perfect sense.
"Yes, clearly we need to elect whoever is currently running that has absolutely no dealings with anybody the least bit shady at any point in their past. I forget which one that is, can you tell me? Elections are always about the lesser of two evils."
Only when someone isn't smart enough to realize there are more than two candidates running. Like you for instance.
"Umm no, that's not the meaning of what you wrote."
Umm, YES IT IS.
"You're free to interpret your own sentence"
Exactly as it was written. That you're too stupid (or too bad with English, as your incoherent last sentence proves) to understand it isn't my problem.
You're wrong. I find it humorous that you think you can tell me the meaning of what I wrote when you can't even consistently construct a coherent sentence, and by humorous I mean moronic.
"Of course. I should have uncritically accepted the allegations without proof."
No, but you SHould avoid straw men like that. Please qute exactly where I said you should "have uncritically accepted the allegations without proof" or admit you can't.
"Ha. Well, then I guess there's no point in talking about it. "
With YOU? I agree.
"You're so invested in thinking Obama a shady slimebag, you'll grasp at the thinnest of evidence as ironclad proof."
Strange, seeing as I never made any clams about Obama one way or the other. Please post ANYTHING that would indicate I think Obama is a slimebag, or even just a derogatory comment that I've made about him.
They don't exist.
Now that we've demonstrated you're a fucking liar, TWICE, maybe we can address the point that when given EXACTLY what you asked for, you dismissed it immediately. If you're going to ask for something, get it, get told you'll dismiss it, and then dismiss it, you really have no room to tell anyone they'll "grasp at the thinnest of evidence as ironclad proof" without looking like a hypocrite.
The AC was right, you hate it, but lying about what I've said won't change it.
Lastly, FUCK YOU, I have no tolerance for assholes who think that they can lie about what I've said, or my opinions, with impunity.
"limitations on government let you exercise your rights, duh"
Listen imbecile, when you put that "duh" there, but are too stupid to realize the difference between "let you exercise" and "prevents you from exercising" you prove that you're too reatrded to discuss this with.
The "duh" you fucking idiot, is that NO ONE LET'S YOU exercise your rights. YOU ARE ALWAYS EXERCISING THEM AND LIMITATIONS ONLY PREVENT THAT NEVER ALLOW IT.
But that's reading comprehension 102, so you have a ways to go.
"Perhaps this helps? you read it in the wrong context, again. literally "government limitations" not an implied "government limitations on citizens.""
NO, asshole, YOU read my reply in the wrong context, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT, it's just stupid and wrong.
Now, get someone who speaks English as their first language (I'm hoping you're just English deficient and not just stupid) and have them explain to you why you're wrong.
Or, if English is your first language, sue your teachers to get your parents tax money back, it didn't do a fuck's worth of good for you.
"Somehow from this statement you think I was saying that the 4th and 5th were against privacy? "
No asshole, I was looking where YOU said to. I NEVER said YOU said anything.
"then you call me an idiot??"
And you proved me right with your reply.
"Is English your 2nd/3rd language? WTF?"
"TF", as you put it, is that YOU can't read worth a damn, that's "TF"
"You get argumentative on a simple misunderstanding "
No, actually, YOU just misread my reply (how ironic that you're too stupid to realize it's YOU who misunderstood).
"Government limitations let you exercise your rights, duh. "
NO, IMBECILE, government limitations LIMIT your rights. Is English your 2nd/3rd language, or do you not understand what "limitations" mean?
"If the future, if you plan to call somebody an idiot, make sure you understand what they wrote 1st, then make sure you are not making picky errors yourself."
Nope. Said system doesn't exist guy, that's my point. OP is trolling about a system that doesn't exist anywhere and never did.
The point you don't seem to get is that for your assertion to be true, every example of crime in Sweden ever prosecuted would be punished proportionate to the crime.
"as soon as someone wanders across out of curiosity"
That's where your bias shows itself.
Regardless of you position on the amount of money he supposedly cost the government, or the damage he did, he was not, in any way just "wandering across out of curiosity", so your analogy is just wrong.
And now you're so beaten down and embarrassed by your idiotic threat that you can't even come up with a coherent insult, THAT is how much I own you.
Why not just bust out "I'm rubber you're glue"? That about your speed, you pathetic little twat.
I ALSO notice you haven't followed up on your threat, bitch. You were plenty tough when yuo though you could threaten people with impunity, but now that I'm here making it clear you can't, the best you have is "You said it, so that's you."
God damn man, are you ever pitiful.
By the way, bitch, weren't you whining about me "stalking" you? So you're a hypocrite now too, how sad for your sorry loser ass.
"Still here, waiting for you to do something about it."
I'm sorry, I forgot you're an imbecile. Were the "I'm right here waiting for YOU to follow up and actually DO what you said you would in your sad little threat" posts too subtle, or are you just really fucking dumb?
"Post your address here and I'll see if I can make time for you next time I'm passing by Idiotville or Fuckwitsburg."
I don't live with your parents, that's you, so you wouldn't see me in either of those places.
Why don't YOU post YOUR address, since you're the bitch who made the threat in the first place?
It's really funny that your such a loser that you A) threaten people over the internet, then, when they call you on your sad little punk-ass move, you B) pretend they're stalking you and whine like my little sister about it, and then, when you realize that is as sad and stupid as threatening people over the internet, you C) Lie and tell ME I haven't done anything to follow up on YOUR threat, even though anyone can check the posting history and see you're full of shit, and that I've been telling YOU I'm quite ready for YOU to actually do something about your silly little threat.
You're still pathetic, no matter what kind of stupid tactic you use.
YOU thretened ME over the internet, and despite the fact that I've made myself avialable to you to arrange for you to have an opportunity to actually DO what your cowardly ass threatened, you've done nothing but whine, cry, try to change the subject, and hide like the twat you are.
You're a bitch, and nothing you say, no lame ass insult, no attempt to pretend I haven't been INSISTING you follow up on your lame ass threat will change that.
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"Remember, when dealing with me, the angrier you get, the happier I am."
Remember, when you cast your vote this year, I'll be canceling it out with mine.
"Ahahaha, thank you."
No, thank you. I was undecided on my vote for this year, and thanks to YOU, I'm voting straight Republican.
Laugh at me mooting your vote.
And assholes like you are the reason this country is in such bad shape, assholes like Bush who can't admit when they're wrong.
t0rkm3 provided you with information that proved you didn't have all the facts in the matter and when given that opportunity, instead of using that opportunity to reassess your position (because, in case you didn't realize it, you were irrefutably wrong) you reply to t0rkm3 with "Please try to do basic sanity checks on what you quote, to see if it actually supports your premise."
Guess what asshole? It did. YOU created the "fact" that "there's a little over a year's worth of readily accessible oil in Bakken, not the 174 hundred billion barrels you originally claimed." Read the god damned link. It does not say what you claim there, it says
. That in no way resembles your statement, made immediately after you were proven wrong.
So, instead of intelligently assessing the argument and admitting you were factually wrong about a major point in your post, you lie, attack the person who proved you wrong, and then pretend you were right all along.
How do you have time to post of Slashdot when you're running the country Mr. Bush?
"Please, state for the record that you wish congress to enact more laws. "
I want congress to do more work you disingenuous fuck.
"The AC was implying that if he was presented something with what he didn't want to hear, he would just dismiss it out of hand"
He did.
"Instead he found his own sources that countered directly what the guy had to say to show that it wasn't a credible source. "
ACTUALLY what he did was find information that confirmed what OP said (and do you even know what "credible source" means? It was CNN you moron) and then drew his own conclusions. NOTHING he posted refuted ANYTHING OP said, so learn to read better or stop lying.
"Grow up. You are the one trying to use debate techniques that detract from the actual point of the argument."
The point of the argument is people like you are fucking zombies, and any attempt to discuss issues about your candidate are met with vitriol and lies.
Nice job proving it.
"who is blithely ignoring the comments of the person (s)he is trying to argue with."
Well, when the comments consist of repeatedly saying "NUH UH OBAMA IS THE BESTEST!!!" to every criticism raised, is it really that hard to think people will ignore it?
Of course, I'm not an Obama slurper, I actually like to examine the policies of my candidiates, so you thinking I'm a "whiny douchbag" for not shoving my head 8 inches up his ass with yours makes perfect sense.
"Yes, clearly we need to elect whoever is currently running that has absolutely no dealings with anybody the least bit shady at any point in their past. I forget which one that is, can you tell me? Elections are always about the lesser of two evils."
Only when someone isn't smart enough to realize there are more than two candidates running. Like you for instance.
"a completely legal application of the electoral rules of Chicago that sounds fairly well in keeping with the political climate in the city?"
It saddens me that you're not bright enough to understand what the political climate in that city is.
Yeah sure, I'd LOVE a President who thinks the way the do things in CHICAGO is ok...
God damn man, do you even realize why that statement is retarded?
"Umm no, that's not the meaning of what you wrote."
Umm, YES IT IS.
"You're free to interpret your own sentence"
Exactly as it was written. That you're too stupid (or too bad with English, as your incoherent last sentence proves) to understand it isn't my problem.
You're wrong. I find it humorous that you think you can tell me the meaning of what I wrote when you can't even consistently construct a coherent sentence, and by humorous I mean moronic.
"Of course. I should have uncritically accepted the allegations without proof."
No, but you SHould avoid straw men like that. Please qute exactly where I said you should "have uncritically accepted the allegations without proof" or admit you can't.
"Ha. Well, then I guess there's no point in talking about it. "
With YOU? I agree.
"You're so invested in thinking Obama a shady slimebag, you'll grasp at the thinnest of evidence as ironclad proof."
Strange, seeing as I never made any clams about Obama one way or the other. Please post ANYTHING that would indicate I think Obama is a slimebag, or even just a derogatory comment that I've made about him.
They don't exist.
Now that we've demonstrated you're a fucking liar, TWICE, maybe we can address the point that when given EXACTLY what you asked for, you dismissed it immediately. If you're going to ask for something, get it, get told you'll dismiss it, and then dismiss it, you really have no room to tell anyone they'll "grasp at the thinnest of evidence as ironclad proof" without looking like a hypocrite.
The AC was right, you hate it, but lying about what I've said won't change it.
Lastly, FUCK YOU, I have no tolerance for assholes who think that they can lie about what I've said, or my opinions, with impunity.
"So, they'd have counted if they did what they were purported to do;"
Of course they would.
"but sadly, they fell short."
And in your mind, always will. Which was, of course the AC's point, well proven by your response.
"limitations on government let you exercise your rights, duh"
Listen imbecile, when you put that "duh" there, but are too stupid to realize the difference between "let you exercise" and "prevents you from exercising" you prove that you're too reatrded to discuss this with.
The "duh" you fucking idiot, is that NO ONE LET'S YOU exercise your rights. YOU ARE ALWAYS EXERCISING THEM AND LIMITATIONS ONLY PREVENT THAT NEVER ALLOW IT.
But that's reading comprehension 102, so you have a ways to go.
"Perhaps this helps? you read it in the wrong context, again. literally "government limitations" not an implied "government limitations on citizens.""
NO, asshole, YOU read my reply in the wrong context, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT, it's just stupid and wrong.
Now, get someone who speaks English as their first language (I'm hoping you're just English deficient and not just stupid) and have them explain to you why you're wrong.
Or, if English is your first language, sue your teachers to get your parents tax money back, it didn't do a fuck's worth of good for you.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=630713&cid=24404635
Well, genius, there's the evidence, now what?
"Somehow from this statement you think I was saying that the 4th and 5th were against privacy? "
No asshole, I was looking where YOU said to. I NEVER said YOU said anything.
"then you call me an idiot??"
And you proved me right with your reply.
"Is English your 2nd/3rd language? WTF?"
"TF", as you put it, is that YOU can't read worth a damn, that's "TF"
"You get argumentative on a simple misunderstanding "
No, actually, YOU just misread my reply (how ironic that you're too stupid to realize it's YOU who misunderstood).
"Government limitations let you exercise your rights, duh. "
NO, IMBECILE, government limitations LIMIT your rights. Is English your 2nd/3rd language, or do you not understand what "limitations" mean?
"If the future, if you plan to call somebody an idiot, make sure you understand what they wrote 1st, then make sure you are not making picky errors yourself."
Ok, You're STILL A RAGING FUCKING IDIOT.
"PS: Your moderator is an idiot too."
So you're related
"I'll bite. Sweden?"
Nope. Said system doesn't exist guy, that's my point. OP is trolling about a system that doesn't exist anywhere and never did.
The point you don't seem to get is that for your assertion to be true, every example of crime in Sweden ever prosecuted would be punished proportionate to the crime.
They aren't. So no, not Sweden, nor anyone else.
"How does that make him dirtier than a guy who takes openhanded bribes and hides them in his freezer?"
Why aren't you upset that he's dirty in the first place, regardless of whether he's "dirtier" than anyone else?
There was nothing close to flamebait there you twat. He wasn't "just wandering" and modding me down won't make it so.
"as soon as someone wanders across out of curiosity"
That's where your bias shows itself.
Regardless of you position on the amount of money he supposedly cost the government, or the damage he did, he was not, in any way just "wandering across out of curiosity", so your analogy is just wrong.
"What a sad excuse for a life you must have!"
Maybe, but you're trolling me as an AC now after I shut you the fuck up, so I'd worry more about your own life if I were you.
Of course, I'd shoot myself in the head if I were you, but that's beside the point.
"I see your retarded old cliché and raise you a human right: punishment should be proportional to the crime."
Find me one legal system in the world where that has ever been the case and I'll support your stance.
Stop posting until you're not an idiot.
Thanks.
"You said it, so that's you."
And now you're so beaten down and embarrassed by your idiotic threat that you can't even come up with a coherent insult, THAT is how much I own you.
Why not just bust out "I'm rubber you're glue"? That about your speed, you pathetic little twat.
I ALSO notice you haven't followed up on your threat, bitch. You were plenty tough when yuo though you could threaten people with impunity, but now that I'm here making it clear you can't, the best you have is "You said it, so that's you."
God damn man, are you ever pitiful.
By the way, bitch, weren't you whining about me "stalking" you? So you're a hypocrite now too, how sad for your sorry loser ass.
"I never argue against those with more experience. You clearly know all about being plainly dumb."
Of course I do, I've had dialog with you.
"Still here, waiting for you to do something about it."
I'm sorry, I forgot you're an imbecile. Were the "I'm right here waiting for YOU to follow up and actually DO what you said you would in your sad little threat" posts too subtle, or are you just really fucking dumb?
"Post your address here and I'll see if I can make time for you next time I'm passing by Idiotville or Fuckwitsburg."
I don't live with your parents, that's you, so you wouldn't see me in either of those places.
Why don't YOU post YOUR address, since you're the bitch who made the threat in the first place?
It's really funny that your such a loser that you A) threaten people over the internet, then, when they call you on your sad little punk-ass move, you B) pretend they're stalking you and whine like my little sister about it, and then, when you realize that is as sad and stupid as threatening people over the internet, you C) Lie and tell ME I haven't done anything to follow up on YOUR threat, even though anyone can check the posting history and see you're full of shit, and that I've been telling YOU I'm quite ready for YOU to actually do something about your silly little threat.
You're still pathetic, no matter what kind of stupid tactic you use.
YOU thretened ME over the internet, and despite the fact that I've made myself avialable to you to arrange for you to have an opportunity to actually DO what your cowardly ass threatened, you've done nothing but whine, cry, try to change the subject, and hide like the twat you are.
You're a bitch, and nothing you say, no lame ass insult, no attempt to pretend I haven't been INSISTING you follow up on your lame ass threat will change that.