Radeon HD 2xxx - Radeon HD 7xxx now supported (mode changing, no acceleration (yet))
Network card support is a *lot* better now-a-days thanks to Haiku's freebsd wireless driver wrapper.
Unfortunately, the project is slowly heading towards disaster as more and more incompetent people have started to contribute (think GSoC gone wrong, permanently.)
Care to elaborate?
The code base is 1) not security audited,
What says it can't be? Also, Haiku is only single user, so at the moment this doesn't even make sense. (pre-beta software is pre-beta)
2) slow as hell
Umm, most 3rd party reviews mention how fast it is
3) assbackwards
This isn't a statement.
4) not having a snowballs chance in hell to work on my 4-way CPU (the memory manager dies under SMP load and must be rewritten.)
Strange, my eight core AMD bulldozer cpu works just fine.
I loved BeOS, but this is not going to replace it.
I admire their work. They've obviously done some impressive things to preserve that community. I just don't understand them. BeOS hasn't really progressed at all in the past...what? 8 years?
Keep in mind that Haiku is compatible to BeOS on the binary level. Be had an army of paid programmers and made the first preview release in a few years. Haiku *reverse engineered* BeOS with a handful of (mostly) non-paid developers. 8 years no longer seems so long:D
At this point they may as well be hacking on Amiga or Plan9. by the time they're done, we're all going to be running on browser-based platforms that use the OS as a layer to support the fancy proprietary graphics drivers. I'm simplifying of course, but that would sure sap my enthusiasm for an OS project.
Haiku supports a wide range of video cards, and has a modern WebKit based browser. Haiku actually fits your description better than Windows or Linux.
From what i've seen, elementary os should be a game changer if they can get their next version released. Think Ubuntu without unity and the turd shine.. add docky.
This is the 21st century.
1) Make your software the highest quality possible
2) Advertise it well to your target demographic.
3) Make it cross platform (optional, a lot users generally prefer cross-platform though, Windows, OS X, Linux)
4) Sell it for a low price that is reasonable (tiered pricing is good, student price, etc to get users hooked)
5) Charge for support plans.
6) Support your customers well.
If you follow these 6 steps, people will want to *buy* your software.
As others have said:
"Large software projects do not turn a profit through sales."
+1
This is definitely true, making commits to major projects has put me in close touch with all kinds of developers getting paid to write code.. just look at their commit emails:)
Actually, If I was faced with using only Microsoft crap i'd quit as well.
I'd rather install a Debian or ArchLinux server and use a wiki then spend *hours* and *hours* wasting time fighting sharepoint.
RPM (Fedora) friendly too. I bought Project Zomboid, which later put it on Desura. It installed no problem, and also ran no problem, which I wasn't expecting.
Ha! Project Zomboid is a great freaking game.
It's funny how an 8-bit game can make you cringe.
I've been beta testing the Linux release for a while now, it's a well designed piece of software!
It's nice having all your indie Linux games in one spot with reviews. It also makes a nice support channel when the games don't run right.
Debian friendly.
Canonical has single handedly stabbed themselves in the face.
1) Unity wasn't ready
2) Unity really sucks and is the *DEFAULT* window manager
3) The Ubuntu 11.04 install cd doesn't even boot on half of my hardware anymore. (hardware it worked with from 7.x - 10.10, #ubuntu says the 2D fallback at install doesn't work half of the time)
In all honesty, I was the biggest of Ubuntu fan-boys... I even grudgingly accepted the left hand window buttons in 10 as they could be tweaked. But this is just too much. While Gnome 3 is also going through growing pains, IT'S UI AT LEAST MAKES SENSE AND IS STABLE!
Personally I think as a community, the disheartened users need to return to Debian or move to Mint. Debian 6 squeeze has gotten a lot better and it's package selection wider thanks to the Ubuntu focus and fame.
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Obviously Opera's bees have taken residence in the walls of the house and are absorbing gamma radiation from the wifi antennas.
you are correct sir.. good thing i'm a programmer and not a writer :)
You must of been burned out on Linux kernel development multiple-times over by now... how do you deal with it?
But an instance of the text editor is.
Fair enough ;)
News from Haiku is interesting because they're one of the few truly alternative operating systems out there that are actually progressing
Very true... some of us are real men who do real men computer work... the rest of you can use your 'apps' from your 'app stores'
Yup.. I can confirm the server has been /.'ed
Radeon HD 2xxx - Radeon HD 7xxx now supported (mode changing, no acceleration (yet)) Network card support is a *lot* better now-a-days thanks to Haiku's freebsd wireless driver wrapper.
now I can run a text editor with more than 3.1 gigs of ram
Haiku has PAE support... so it isn't limited to 3.1GB ram on 32-bit x86 :)
Unfortunately, the project is slowly heading towards disaster as more and more incompetent people have started to contribute (think GSoC gone wrong, permanently.)
Care to elaborate?
The code base is 1) not security audited,
What says it can't be? Also, Haiku is only single user, so at the moment this doesn't even make sense. (pre-beta software is pre-beta)
2) slow as hell
Umm, most 3rd party reviews mention how fast it is
3) assbackwards
This isn't a statement.
4) not having a snowballs chance in hell to work on my 4-way CPU (the memory manager dies under SMP load and must be rewritten.)
Strange, my eight core AMD bulldozer cpu works just fine.
I loved BeOS, but this is not going to replace it.
Patches welcome
I admire their work. They've obviously done some impressive things to preserve that community. I just don't understand them. BeOS hasn't really progressed at all in the past...what? 8 years?
Keep in mind that Haiku is compatible to BeOS on the binary level. Be had an army of paid programmers and made the first preview release in a few years. Haiku *reverse engineered* BeOS with a handful of (mostly) non-paid developers. 8 years no longer seems so long :D
At this point they may as well be hacking on Amiga or Plan9. by the time they're done, we're all going to be running on browser-based platforms that use the OS as a layer to support the fancy proprietary graphics drivers. I'm simplifying of course, but that would sure sap my enthusiasm for an OS project.
Haiku supports a wide range of video cards, and has a modern WebKit based browser. Haiku actually fits your description better than Windows or Linux.
From what i've seen, elementary os should be a game changer if they can get their next version released. Think Ubuntu without unity and the turd shine.. add docky.
Wow... troll much?
+1
"a beautiful swan"... A beautiful swan as long as you don't mind it uncontrollably eating menu bars and crapping on your rug.
This is the 21st century. 1) Make your software the highest quality possible 2) Advertise it well to your target demographic. 3) Make it cross platform (optional, a lot users generally prefer cross-platform though, Windows, OS X, Linux) 4) Sell it for a low price that is reasonable (tiered pricing is good, student price, etc to get users hooked) 5) Charge for support plans. 6) Support your customers well. If you follow these 6 steps, people will want to *buy* your software. As others have said: "Large software projects do not turn a profit through sales."
+1 This is definitely true, making commits to major projects has put me in close touch with all kinds of developers getting paid to write code.. just look at their commit emails :)
Actually, If I was faced with using only Microsoft crap i'd quit as well. I'd rather install a Debian or ArchLinux server and use a wiki then spend *hours* and *hours* wasting time fighting sharepoint.
Real men use gcc, vim, coffee, and a gun.
we all knew it would happen.
Chevron and Conoco Phillips entering the space race.
RPM (Fedora) friendly too. I bought Project Zomboid, which later put it on Desura. It installed no problem, and also ran no problem, which I wasn't expecting.
Ha! Project Zomboid is a great freaking game. It's funny how an 8-bit game can make you cringe.
I've been beta testing the Linux release for a while now, it's a well designed piece of software! It's nice having all your indie Linux games in one spot with reviews. It also makes a nice support channel when the games don't run right. Debian friendly.
... well that didn't take long. Weren't they open source friendly like two months ago?
Canonical has single handedly stabbed themselves in the face.
1) Unity wasn't ready
2) Unity really sucks and is the *DEFAULT* window manager
3) The Ubuntu 11.04 install cd doesn't even boot on half of my hardware anymore. (hardware it worked with from 7.x - 10.10, #ubuntu says the 2D fallback at install doesn't work half of the time)
In all honesty, I was the biggest of Ubuntu fan-boys... I even grudgingly accepted the left hand window buttons in 10 as they could be tweaked. But this is just too much. While Gnome 3 is also going through growing pains, IT'S UI AT LEAST MAKES SENSE AND IS STABLE! Personally I think as a community, the disheartened users need to return to Debian or move to Mint. Debian 6 squeeze has gotten a lot better and it's package selection wider thanks to the Ubuntu focus and fame.
Gooooo Haiku Goooooo! http://haiku-os.org/