The Amiga misses your tender touchtype, late hours, and hacking thrills!
Amiga deflowered many a Linux guru, and now they are (openly!) omnipotent tool honer emeritus. R-U-Experianced?
Linux users are _almost_ as fiercely loyal...
Now they code any OS of thier choice. Linux most often. MS most loathed. Amiga most loyal. Millions of X-Amiga and Mac users have been shafted for the last 15 years by little things like detecting a diskchange operation. Sheesh!
Maybe it will be "new-technology" from MS in Y2K.... Naahhh!
It's no accident that our mutual evangelism of what we know is good, and firmly believe in can be so tirelesly improved, for all to benefit.
Stay tuned for the news to come, then "Make up your own mind" about the future Amiga. It's more than a FeeCee turned Linux box.
The "World of AMIGA" show is in London this month, and the Computer99 show November in Cologne....and then the slew of Amiga shows in Toronto, St. Louis, Columbus, and CA next year.
"Amiga will show you hers, if you'll show her your Linux!"...now that it's all grown up...
Press release. Heh! Last year I was Senior Hardware Engineer at Amiga Inc. If I told anymore, they'd have to kill me. That chip company had the heavy'st NDA I'd ever signed. I didnt need hope, after I'd been exposed to the truth. It is FAR superior. They had some X-Hi-Toro employees working there too!
Lots of Amiga people, lessons, code, style, ethic, design sense left the Amiga years ago: they have contributed to what Linux is today. Ask the Rasterman if the Amiga taught him anything! I'm sure he can now teach the Amiga back! So can now we ALL can support Linux.
I know the chips, and I know that the chip selected last year is better than the Emotion Engine is. Plus the MMC chip has multiple MPEG decoders, and scaling HW for multiple display devices of the future. PCI, DVD, satellite MAC, Hardware DES, and some neat-o hackable HW too! This is the base machine (at well under $500) too!
I'm sure these other chips and machines will be impressive when they come out, and get lots of attention. But the new Amiga is capable of emulating them! Just like all the rest...
It's good! SDMI is bad! Even the purists secretly think it's good! Satanic Demonic Music Initiave is worse. But at least it WILL play MP3 also. But remember: Sodomy is not bad, SDMI may infest...but MP3 is IT!
Either its intentionaly presented poorly so as to confuse everyone. Our it's a teen prank. Or they have booksmart savants of alien intelligence, but have never seen a real web page, or product announcement, making the web page now that the VHDL is done.
A pentium picture? A section of a wafer with a lame circular smoothed edge? No interconnects? No patent refs? IMHO totaly bogus. Sheesh.... Whats next?
Re:Why buy Rio? You cant even afford A MicroDrive!
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If a Rio is too expensive, yet you push the MicroDrive, how much do you want to pay TOTAL for an MP3 player? How long must is the minimum 128Kbps play time before you would buy it? How much were you going to pay?
X-mas will tell...
It will allways play MP3, like all other players.
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Diamond spins off Rio
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All SDMI players must play MP3 from now on! Ordinary MP3 playback is REQUIRED for a device to be SDMI compliant, and get the logo. This is good, because that way audio archives can be retrieved in the future. From Ice-T to Top-40, Tori Amos to Time capsules: future generations will be _allowed_ to hear the archives of "information that wants to be free" if we dont jealously encrypt and key-manage it into silence.
No matter how many layers of decryption or more complicated the audio codec becomes. No matter how many times _thier_ music dosent play. No matter how many long stares at the LCD screen, or button fumbling with expired or missing crypto keys. Plain MP3 will play everywhere thiers might have. Archive away folks! MP3 is IN everything futuristic.
It's good so many people helped MS learn a lesson after the London incident that revealed thier devious delete-and-conquor Y2K code bomb.
I'll be happy to look for the logo because it only means it's a cheaper MP3 player thanx to volume. The logo also means "MP3 inside" to the smart consumer. It had better STAY inside too.
Now that they've been punished, and as long as they behave, and obey the will of information, we wont have to brand SDMI the "Satanic Demonic Music Initiatve" with Slashdot like omnipotence.
Neutrino will be used as the kernel RTOS on future Amiga computers. a VERY crisp response to user input is expected on an Amiga. Having a small un-improvable assembler core, just for that CPU, yields the best task switching, with the least waste of cache. Fitting the entire kernel in cache, and leaving room for apps, is a good thing. It's something like the old rule of: It's slower to run off of tape, then off of disk, then off of memory, than off of cache, than in all_those_registers. Thats where Amigas heading. Praise Dr. Havemose!
Yes it's true: GENUINE MP3 players are here to stay. All the existing MP3 players are tiny & light & simple. They are everywhere. They work. They are breeding. They are understood inside-n-out. They are in use now. Real products that we want.
Unlike the winceable MS audio unit that was "shown". Without a far superior to MP3's _existing_ hardware formfactors, MS audio is a dead end encoding facade compared to MP3 as-is.
Home use is completelly different than mountainbiking to the ChiliPeppers. So why have your tunes encoded and thus attached to the ball-n-chain of MS? They will allways play MP3, and so does all portable hardware out now, so MP3 wins.
MP3_HW = Instant tunes a button away. A GUI that grandma understands. In stores yesterday.
MS_HW = Boot. Login. Start the music "application". Then: "license" music securely.
MP3_HW = Tiny featherweights with 1 AA batt. Ergonomics. Embedded micros. Lots of cheaper-n-cheaper media.
MS_HW = Windows Palm, Lap, and desktop computer systems.
MP3_SW = Convert your yards of vinyl and CD's to play on your MP3_HW, and much more. Play with or improve the source code too. Give generously.
MS_HW = "Microsoft's features to protect intellectual property, to enable e-commerce, file protection, crippling of files, digital watermarking, and other features to make any record company executive sleep easier." (Cringely)
I'll add mine: "A Microsoft's Wizard will register on a customer by teenage-customer basis the equalizer settings, website address and history corelation to MS's database, so that the cost of new speakers cables and 900 number testimony escaro, and 24hr Liquor delivery that can be automagically sellected to match the style and profile of music experienced by whom at what hour" (Not exactly as D.I.Y. as MP3 eh?)
The proposed MS solution depends on thier OS. Yikes! MS may consider a laptop to be a portable music player, or a _wince_ (of an un-appealing) palmtop. I dont.
MP3_HW_GUI = Buttons, knobs, sliders.
MS_SW_GUI = WinCE "standard" (A very graphic user indeed!) Is Alt-TABing three or four times to get to the mute check box with the glide pad a digital music solution that we asked for? No.
A MS "wearable" _WINCE_ is NEVER going to beat even a vanilla RIO for exercising to 140+BPM Techno. Wince for Digital Audio is lamentable, not portable.
They lose the HW solution equation.
Earths MP3 players are in use now and they are growing in features and functions. They wont go away either. Every aspect of MP3 SW&HW improves daily. MP3 improvement and elegancy is massively parallel worldwide. The MS vaporwearable that was "shown" is'nt.
MP3 HW Semi-factoids: Zillions of elegant silicon MP3 players have intermetall's MP3 chip at thier core: The MAS3507. It bootstraps as a MP3 decoder. Cool feature is the re-programable DSP core for ADPCM, CELP, etc. (Nautilus!?) The 1st chip: http://www.intermetall.de/pages/product_documentat ion/consumer/mas.html
The latest MP3 chip: Now that experts agree that MP3 is the way, mega-company SGS thompson is spewing out thier hardwired MP3 decode only chip, the STA013, here: http://us.st.com/stonline/books/ascii/docs/6399.ht m It's a simpler MP3 only decoder. Gee, I wonder why they would set MP3 in silicon stone now? Asia must have some need for _just_ that kind of audio solution. Like $279 5-MP3CD home players perhaps. Boom-boxes and Car radios perhaps? Gimmie-Gimme!!!!!!!
Or has MS "shown" a _better_ solution for eternal music?
______________Bottom line_____________ It's over. It's MP3. Get used to the idea billy.
P.S.to Microsoft; Please dont try and replace JPEG, #2 pencils, or Beer. Ok?
> But I agree, having to go from one end of the tape to the other probably would take a while.
Agreed, but so would changing _thru_ 40+ CDROM disks. Or a dozen DVDROMs. This is 30 to 50 GB we are talking here. (1999)
The mere change of 40, or a dozen optical disks would take a while more than an ADR tape. Bigtime.
Seems more like a luxury media for MP3's. Plus a more totaly easy backup product = you do it better.
Imagine the entire home collection of MP3s on a couple of tapes, which I leave unlocked in the future car, hoping I remember to leave them on the seat instead of the dash, so the Boing-a-delic color label I printed for them wont fade in the sunlight.
Yes! The 50+ CD's (origionals!) on spring-break would be more error prone, and less fun, than jamming MP3 tunes from ADR tape in the convertible on the way to the beach with a date or three...Oh Yea!
It's a FACT that I own every CD of the above and many more cool bands. The fact that I have spent the money, means RIAA now _has_ the money. All of OUR music money. Thats why RIAA has power. The Artists got only _some_ of the money. Publishing thier own MP3 changes that. Permanantly. We spent a LOT of money buying the rows uppon rows of our favorites. Meters of CD's folks. I ask people over 30 this question; If the number of CD's you now OWN is equal to 100%, then how many more CD's will you buy this year, or the rest of your life? The answers vary; The average answer of people was they would BUY 25% more music from now onward. 50% myself. DJ's said 1000% more CDs! Most CD's are bought before age 30, starting with thier first job I guess. With most people having SPENT carelessly to get thier gigantic core CD collection completed, its winding down. Sales may decline due to all the CD's sought, having been bought! Perhaps they over produced the CDs for years...at stamped master prices...to sell that Michael Jackson for $14.95 a few million times.
RIAA: I'm gonna compress my CD collection. It's huge. So leave me and MP3 alone. Go retire and count your(my) money. ( I suggest you invest in MaxNet, GoodNoise, or MP3.com !)
Now where is that Technics 5 CD MP3/CD player I've wanted for years, and the matching dual CompactFlash ultra-speed dubber, in that 80's silver styling to match the other equipment I've got?
Remarking a CPU, or decieving the customer is bad, wrong, and worse. But culling fast chips from the herd, and selling them as overclocked is not only beautiful, good for the environment, and wise. You the customer may choose to take your place in time, or defy Intels laser inscribed number, Go-forward, move-ahead, PLL-in-hand. (Devo!) So just cause "the man" says the CPU is a 300 MHZ part (period) dosent EVER mean it wont go 301,415926 MHZ. The customer may find it zipps along at 449,000001 MHZ reliably, at all tempratures, under all system conditions. Or a vendor may sell this as value added by the retailer. It's funny how NORMAL people accept XTAL speed detents as the homogenious comodities they are. If you dont know how to play between the quantums, then leave the experts who do alone.
Microsoft has sold millions & millions of Windows 3.0 to NT's and brags that they have 95% of the desktop market. Since most all of those customers will upgrade the crashprone OS, it is a sales sure-thing. So I ask; Is $98 for the Win95 to Win98 price the discount price for the USA to pay en-mass? Would the price for the same upgrade be lower if they sold MORE copies (i.e. >96% of the mkt.)? At what percentage of the market cornering will the quantity discount price "kick-in"? If they fall to 90% of the market will the future upgrades cost a whole lot more? Is this to be ignored?
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The Amiga misses your tender touchtype, late hours, and hacking thrills!
...now that it's all grown up...
Amiga deflowered many a Linux guru, and now they are (openly!) omnipotent tool honer emeritus.
R-U-Experianced?
Linux users are _almost_ as fiercely loyal...
Now they code any OS of thier choice. Linux most often. MS most loathed. Amiga most loyal.
Millions of X-Amiga and Mac users have been shafted for the last 15 years by little things like detecting a diskchange operation. Sheesh!
Maybe it will be "new-technology" from MS in Y2K.... Naahhh!
It's no accident that our mutual evangelism of what we know is good, and firmly believe in can be
so tirelesly improved, for all to benefit.
Stay tuned for the news to come, then "Make up your own mind" about the future Amiga.
It's more than a FeeCee turned Linux box.
The "World of AMIGA" show is in London this month, and the Computer99 show November in Cologne....and then the slew of Amiga shows in Toronto, St. Louis, Columbus, and CA next year.
"Amiga will show you hers, if you'll show her your Linux!"
Just type:> "makeout"
JoeT
Press release. Heh!
Last year I was Senior Hardware Engineer at Amiga Inc. If I told anymore, they'd have to kill me.
That chip company had the heavy'st NDA I'd ever signed. I didnt need hope, after I'd been exposed
to the truth. It is FAR superior. They had some X-Hi-Toro employees working there too!
Lots of Amiga people, lessons, code, style, ethic, design sense left the Amiga years ago:
they have contributed to what Linux is today.
Ask the Rasterman if the Amiga taught him anything!
I'm sure he can now teach the Amiga back!
So can now we ALL can support Linux.
(BeOS and BSD to go!)
"It's over; It's MP3!"
JoeT
I'll remember: I disagreed, and you read it here second.
"It's over; It's MP3!"
JoeT
Think BIGGER!
I know the chips, and I know that the chip selected last year is better than the Emotion Engine is. Plus the MMC chip has multiple MPEG decoders, and scaling HW for multiple display devices of the future. PCI, DVD, satellite MAC,
Hardware DES, and some neat-o hackable HW too!
This is the base machine (at well under $500) too!
I'm sure these other chips and machines will be impressive when they come out, and get lots of attention. But the new Amiga is capable of emulating them! Just like all the rest...
"It's over; It's MP3!"
JoeT
No comment on QNX...
It's good! SDMI is bad!
Even the purists secretly think it's good!
Satanic Demonic Music Initiave is worse. But at least it WILL play MP3 also.
But remember: Sodomy is not bad, SDMI may infest...but MP3 is IT!
"It's over: It's MP3!"
JoeT
SDMI also means "Plays MP3!" absolutelly.
Either its intentionaly presented poorly so as to confuse everyone. Our it's a teen prank. Or they
have booksmart savants of alien intelligence, but have never seen a real web page, or product announcement, making the web page now that the VHDL is done.
A pentium picture? A section of a wafer with a lame circular smoothed edge? No interconnects?
No patent refs?
IMHO totaly bogus.
Sheesh.... Whats next?
If a Rio is too expensive, yet you push the MicroDrive, how much do you want to pay TOTAL
for an MP3 player? How long must is the minimum
128Kbps play time before you would buy it?
How much were you going to pay?
X-mas will tell...
All SDMI players must play MP3 from now on!
Ordinary MP3 playback is REQUIRED for a device to be SDMI compliant, and get the logo. This is good,
because that way audio archives can be retrieved in the future. From Ice-T to Top-40, Tori Amos to Time capsules: future generations will be _allowed_ to hear the archives of "information that wants to be free" if we dont jealously encrypt and key-manage it into silence.
No matter how many layers of decryption or more complicated the audio codec becomes. No matter how many times _thier_ music dosent play. No matter how many long stares at the LCD screen, or button fumbling with expired or missing crypto keys. Plain MP3 will play everywhere thiers might have. Archive away folks! MP3 is IN everything futuristic.
It's good so many people helped MS learn a lesson after the London incident that revealed thier devious delete-and-conquor Y2K code bomb.
I'll be happy to look for the logo because it only means it's a cheaper MP3 player thanx to
volume. The logo also means "MP3 inside" to the smart consumer. It had better STAY inside too.
Now that they've been punished, and as long as they behave, and obey the will of information,
we wont have to brand SDMI the "Satanic Demonic Music Initiatve" with Slashdot like omnipotence.
"It's over: It's MP3!"
JoeT (Amiga A-256 & Michy evangelist)
A commonly agreed to name for an element that must die. The sooner, with the most viewpoints, the better. How else can you fund 4 more movies?
Neutrino will be used as the kernel RTOS on future Amiga computers. a VERY crisp response to user input is expected on an Amiga. Having a small un-improvable assembler core, just for that CPU, yields the best task switching, with the least waste of cache. Fitting the entire kernel in cache, and leaving room for apps, is a good thing. It's something like the old rule of:
It's slower to run off of tape, then off of disk,
then off of memory, than off of cache, than in all_those_registers. Thats where Amigas heading.
Praise Dr. Havemose!
Yes it's true: GENUINE MP3 players are here to stay.
t ion/consumer/mas.html
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All the existing MP3 players are tiny & light & simple. They are everywhere. They work.
They are breeding. They are understood inside-n-out. They are in use now. Real products that we want.
Unlike the winceable MS audio unit that was "shown". Without a far superior to MP3's _existing_ hardware formfactors, MS audio is a dead end encoding facade compared to MP3 as-is.
Home use is completelly different than mountainbiking to the ChiliPeppers. So why have your tunes encoded and thus attached to the ball-n-chain of MS? They will allways play MP3, and so does all portable hardware out now, so MP3 wins.
MP3_HW = Instant tunes a button away. A GUI that grandma understands. In stores yesterday.
MS_HW = Boot. Login. Start the music "application". Then: "license" music securely.
MP3_HW = Tiny featherweights with 1 AA batt. Ergonomics. Embedded micros. Lots of cheaper-n-cheaper media.
MS_HW = Windows Palm, Lap, and desktop computer systems.
MP3_SW = Convert your yards of vinyl and CD's to play on your MP3_HW, and much more. Play with or improve the source code too. Give generously.
MS_HW = "Microsoft's features to protect intellectual property, to enable e-commerce, file protection, crippling of files, digital watermarking, and other features to make any record company executive sleep easier." (Cringely)
I'll add mine: "A Microsoft's Wizard will register
on a customer by teenage-customer basis the equalizer settings, website address and history corelation to MS's database, so that the cost of new speakers cables and 900 number testimony escaro, and 24hr Liquor delivery that can be automagically sellected to match the style and
profile of music experienced by whom at what hour"
(Not exactly as D.I.Y. as MP3 eh?)
The proposed MS solution depends on thier OS. Yikes!
MS may consider a laptop to be a portable music player,
or a _wince_ (of an un-appealing) palmtop.
I dont.
MP3_HW_GUI = Buttons, knobs, sliders.
MS_SW_GUI = WinCE "standard" (A very graphic user indeed!)
Is Alt-TABing three or four times to get to the mute check box with the glide pad a digital music solution that we asked for? No.
A MS "wearable" _WINCE_ is NEVER going to beat even a vanilla RIO for exercising to 140+BPM Techno. Wince for Digital Audio is lamentable, not portable.
They lose the HW solution equation.
Earths MP3 players are in use now and they are growing in features and functions. They wont go away either. Every aspect of MP3 SW&HW improves daily. MP3 improvement and elegancy is massively parallel worldwide.
The MS vaporwearable that was "shown" is'nt.
MP3 HW Semi-factoids:
Zillions of elegant silicon MP3 players have intermetall's MP3 chip at thier core: The MAS3507. It bootstraps as a MP3 decoder. Cool feature is the re-programable DSP core for ADPCM, CELP, etc. (Nautilus!?)
The 1st chip: http://www.intermetall.de/pages/product_documenta
The latest MP3 chip:
Now that experts agree that MP3 is the way, mega-company SGS thompson is spewing out thier hardwired MP3 decode only chip, the STA013, here: http://us.st.com/stonline/books/ascii/docs/6399.h
It's a simpler MP3 only decoder.
Gee, I wonder why they would set MP3 in silicon stone now?
Asia must have some need for _just_ that kind of audio solution.
Like $279 5-MP3CD home players perhaps.
Boom-boxes and Car radios perhaps? Gimmie-Gimme!!!!!!!
Or has MS "shown" a _better_ solution for eternal music?
______________Bottom line_____________
It's over. It's MP3. Get used to the idea billy.
P.S.to Microsoft; Please dont try and replace JPEG, #2 pencils, or Beer. Ok?
> But I agree, having to go from one end of the tape to the other probably would take a while.
Agreed, but so would changing _thru_ 40+ CDROM disks. Or a dozen DVDROMs.
This is 30 to 50 GB we are talking here. (1999)
The mere change of 40, or a dozen optical disks would take a while more than an ADR tape. Bigtime.
Seems more like a luxury media for MP3's. Plus a more totaly easy backup product = you do it better.
Imagine the entire home collection of MP3s on a couple of tapes, which I leave unlocked in the future car, hoping I remember to leave them on the seat instead of the dash, so the Boing-a-delic color label I printed for them wont fade in the sunlight.
Yes!
The 50+ CD's (origionals!) on spring-break would be more error prone, and less fun, than jamming MP3 tunes from ADR tape in the convertible on the way to the beach with a date or three...Oh Yea!
It's over: It's MP3.
JoeT
It's a FACT that I own every CD of the above and many more cool bands. The fact that I have spent the money, means RIAA now _has_ the money. All of OUR music money. Thats why RIAA has power. The Artists got only _some_ of the money. Publishing thier own MP3 changes that. Permanantly.
We spent a LOT of money buying the rows uppon rows of our favorites. Meters of CD's folks.
I ask people over 30 this question; If the number of CD's you now OWN is equal to 100%, then how many more CD's will you buy this year, or the rest of your life? The answers vary;
The average answer of people was they would BUY 25% more music from now onward. 50% myself. DJ's said 1000% more CDs! Most CD's are bought before age 30, starting with thier first job I guess.
With most people having SPENT carelessly to get thier gigantic core CD collection completed, its winding down. Sales may decline due to all the CD's sought, having been bought! Perhaps they over produced the CDs for years...at stamped master prices...to sell that Michael Jackson for $14.95 a few million times.
RIAA: I'm gonna compress my CD collection. It's huge. So leave me and MP3 alone. Go retire and count your(my) money. ( I suggest you invest in MaxNet, GoodNoise, or MP3.com !)
Now where is that Technics 5 CD MP3/CD player I've wanted for years, and the matching dual CompactFlash ultra-speed dubber, in that 80's silver styling to match the other equipment I've got?
Remarking a CPU, or decieving the customer is bad, wrong, and worse. But culling fast chips from the herd, and selling them as overclocked is not only beautiful, good for the environment, and wise.
You the customer may choose to take your place in time, or defy Intels laser inscribed number,
Go-forward, move-ahead, PLL-in-hand. (Devo!)
So just cause "the man" says the CPU is a 300 MHZ part (period) dosent EVER mean it wont go 301,415926 MHZ. The customer may find it zipps along at 449,000001 MHZ reliably, at all tempratures, under all system conditions. Or a vendor may sell this as value added by the retailer.
It's funny how NORMAL people accept XTAL speed detents as the homogenious comodities they are.
If you dont know how to play between the quantums, then leave the experts who do alone.
Microsoft has sold millions & millions of Windows 3.0 to NT's and brags that they have 95% of the desktop market.
Since most all of those customers will upgrade the crashprone OS, it is a sales sure-thing.
So I ask; Is $98 for the Win95 to Win98 price the discount price for the USA to pay en-mass?
Would the price for the same upgrade be lower if they sold MORE copies (i.e. >96% of the mkt.)?
At what percentage of the market cornering will the quantity discount price "kick-in"?
If they fall to 90% of the market will the future upgrades cost a whole lot more?
Is this to be ignored?