/sarcasm/ Yeah, you're right. The last time I happened to stroll across a battlefield, there were referees out there, taking names, and checking that everyone was shooting at the proper targets, preventing anyone shooting at a civilian. This is the civilized way of running a war, after all./end sarcasm/
Seriously, dude. If you're on a battlefield, anyone with a weapon is either "friend" or "foe", and if you ain't sure, then he's "foe".
As for the ACLU, or anyone else who objects to carefully targetted killing - what do they prefer? Bomb and napalm a village off the face of the earth, and hope that the intended victim died with all the villagers? These drones are a far more humane way to rid yourself of enemies, than using bombers loaded with thousands of tons of bombs.
Do they really want to go back to the days of Dresden and Hiroshima? "Kill them all, let God sort them out!"
Have you forgotten ACTA? That rancid pustule from a diseased whore's ass is supposed to ensure that everone, everywhere on earth complies with US patent and copyright law.
And, believe me, Microsoft has a voice in ACTA. ALL the rights holders in the world with more than a couple million dollars at stake has bought a chair in the discussions. You will note that voters, taxpayers, and citizens have no voice . . .
A lot of people make that claim. The number of people who have NEVER had ANY security issue with Windows is simply amazing, if we are to believe all those claims.
Oddly, McCaffee, Symantec, and all the rest continue to make money hand over fist, and tens of thousands of computer shops in the US have steady, reliable incomes, thanks to the various security issues.
I can't possibly say whether this particular AC is full of shit or not, but whenever I hear such a claim, I can't help wondering.
That helps to emphasize what some of the developers are doing with ChromeOS and similar offerings.
More than half the people in the world who own computers do nothing but check email, play a few flash games, do some online shopping, and other similar frivolities. Most people don't need multi-Ghz CPU's, super Fps video cards, terrabytes of hard disk space, or more than a gig of memory. And, most people don't need all the utilities, games, services, etc that are found in any standard Windows installation.
"VirtualBox hardlocks the host after about a month running XP without VT on my system. "
Elaborate, please? I've never had a hardlock with my VBox machines. You're saying that one month continuous uptime on the VM will do that? Do you have any idea why?
Sounds a bit like coitus interruptus, doesn't it? Or, am I just a dirty old man, and no one else made the connection?
And, this makes the nation feminine, and the corporation masculine, right? What DO you get when you mate an American corporation with a Chinse government?
I don't know if that's entirely fair. I've cracked at least a half dozen passwords, for entirely benign reasons.
The ones I've done for fun, I can't even begin to count, LMAO
Nefarious? Well now - let's get ex-president Bill Clinton in this discussion, so we can obfuscate the meaning of "nefarious", along with "sex" and "is".;^)
Dating a doctor? There was this little bitty lady who worked with my son when he had surgery, she had the biggest Betty Boop eyes - man, oh man. I could get into that!
"Pirating windows, contrary to what the parent of my post claimed, does not help microsoft."
You've forgotten that Bill Gates used to gloat over piracy in places like India. He likes to have his software pirated, for precisely the same reasons he offers huge discounts to schools. Like a drug pusher, he wants to see them hooked early.
"It's easier for our software to compete with Linux when there's piracy than when there's not."
-Bill Gates
In an interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher of Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates admitted to watching pirated movies on the Internet. Here are some excerpts from the interview posted on AOL News:
MR. MOSSBERG: Talk about YouTube. What do you think about that? Why aren't you doing something like that?
MR. GATES: If we did YouTube, we'd be in a lot of trouble. First of all, people would say, "How do you make money?" Second, they'd say, what about all that copyright violation taking place up there. It's a neat site. I saw a bunch of old Harlem Globetrotters movies up there the other night, it's great.
The malware means nothing to people like me. Well - maybe not "nothing", but damned close to it. If I decide to download a torrent, only to find that it's corrupt and/or carrying a payload, I've wasted the download time. The malware runs in a virtual machine, if at all, and I can restore the virtual machine instantly. The REAL machine won't run windows executables, so I'm safe, safe, safe. (no, I don't have Wine installed, or any of those new cutesy programs that rely on Wine)
So, come on, RIAA - if malware is all you have to offer, hit me with your best shot!
Mmm, yeah - I agree with your logic. But - there are a lot of secrets that SHOULDN'T be so secret.
Work your way through all the hype leading up to the invasion of Iraq. Oil never figures into the "official" line of reasoning. All the same, the flow of oil became a priority once the war started. Defending the oilfields became a matter of urgency. Getting oil workers to actually pump oil from the ground was "Job 1!"
I'm a veteran, and I've not one bad word to say about my little brothers who served in Iraq - but I will say that they were used by the administration. And, THAT should be made public knowledge. The "American interests" that were protected in Iraq were actually CORPORATE interests.
Oh yeah - what was the lineup of companies that eventually benefitted from the Iraqi oil wells? BP leads the list? British Petroleum? Operation Ajax was done for BP's sole benefit all those years ago. Man, oh man - those bigwigs at BP sure have a lot of stroke in Washington!
Well - uhhhmm - errr - have you actually looked at your nick, lately? Is Adolph a popular name where you come from? Personally, I've never met an Adolph in my life. There's only one whose life I'm familiar with. Godwinned? You probably get that all the time, don't you?
You know, that's not REALLY funny. I mean, I installed it, fired it up, and was testing it for several minutes, before I realized it was a pun. Dammit, I felt blonde . . . .
For the sake of argument, let's assume that Chrome really is spyware.
Did you not notice that the spyware is OPEN SOURCED?!?!?!?!
Grab the source, and recompile it. Take the spy out of the spyware, distribute it as "Spyless Chrome" or whatever you want to call it, and everyone is happy.
That must have been terrible for you. Are you sure you wouldn't like to appear on Oprah, and tell the world about it? I'm sure she will preserve your anonymity.
Alright. How does a malware add itself to an already running process, without altering the size and/or the fingerprint of the running process? I think it's safe to say that all common applications that are normally permitted to run in a corporate setting have already been fingerprinted to hell and back. How does the malware change the application without changing that fingerprint in any way?
I was damage control. During any sort of incident, battle, or whatever, I want to SIT ON MY ASS WITH NOTHING TO DO!!! Damage control means exactly that: you have taken damage, there are casualties, and worst of all, the poor damage control teams are going all slippy slidey across the decks after they slip in the blood and gore.
An ounce of prevention is worth about a million tons of cure.
"As good as this technique may or may not be, it's not security."
Ehhh, you could have been a sailor. Back in the day, we had "security alert" drills, to deal with "intruders" all the time. But, that's all we ever had, were drills. The REAL security was focused OUTSIDE! If some boat, ship, helicopter, or even a frogman came close to our ship, we just blew them out of the water or sky. There was never a need to look for an intruder INSIDE the ship!
The most likely time and place any intruder might get aboard, was when we were tied up to a pier. Social engineering MIGHT cause some young fool to bring a malevalent guest aboard. But, the OOD, the POOW, and the duty section were all there to screen for potential bad people.
Trying to find the bad guy AFTER he comes aboard would be utterly ridiculous. He only needs a minute or two to plant his bomb, his bug, or whatever the hell he was there to do.
Security means killing it before it gets here. So, yeah, I like the way you think. Now, the problem is, convincing others to think that way. Most especially, those others at Microsoft.
What you're saying is, you expect your equipment to make up for your lack of ability to plan ahead.
Your pointless presentation is scheduled for 10:00, so you rush in at 9:55, and launch into your presentation. You couldn't have arrived at 9:45, or even 9:00 to set things up, and PLUG THE STUPID COMPUTER INTO A WALL OUTLET. No, planning ahead, and actually being prepared would be to much of a bother, wouldn't it?
BTW - Linux does "just work". Turn the damned computer on, watch the BIOS go through it's thing for several seconds, watch the splash screen for several more seconds, launch your program, and go. At MOST, you lose three minutes due to the lack of ACPI. Those three minutes are to much to plan for?
You don't deserve to have your fucking presentation seen or heard, if that's true.
You actually need to check on what you're talking about. Seriously. There are at least two documentaries "out there" somewhere, in which today's modern engineering big shots have voiced opinions that they couldn't build a pyramid in the time frame in which the various pyramids were built. Not for any amount of money. Using the methods commonly used in building our modern skyscrapers, they couldn't move those huge blocks of stone from the bottom to the top. I won't swear to it, but I believe that one of those documentaries was done by the Discovery channel.
Oh, they could build a pyramid SIMILAR to those in Egypt - using concrete. But, they can't move those huge stones, as the Egyptians did.
Can YOU come up with a method of moving those tons of rock, that doesn't require electricity, or gasoline or diesel power?
There is at least one guy on the internet who thinks he has solved the problem. In his case, money might be the problem in building a pyramid on a grand scale. The rest? They don't have the skills, or even the knowledge needed to build those skills.
Much lesser feats of engineering have baffled out best minds for years. Another documentary was running on Discovery or History channel several months ago, in which some people attempted to match one of the Caesar's crossing of one river or another. Those Romans moved an entire army across a river between dusk and dawn, and our people today worked on the problem of building that bridge within such a short time frame for YEARS.
So much knowledge was lost during the dark ages, and the subsequent crusades.
Just for info - I wrote my senator a few weeks ago regarding ACTA. The dizzy wench sent back a form letter, which made it apparent that she and her staff are completely ignorant of what ACTA is all about. They have zero concept that ACTA and any laws that support the goals of ACTA actually award some tenuously defined "rights" to some sub-class of people, some of whom may or may not be citizens of the United States. They haven't a clue that awarding those rights actually infringes on the rights of a far greater number of people who most certainly ARE citizens of the United States.
I don't mean to discourage anyone from writing their congress critters - but you should be prepared to explain what "rights" mean, and whose rights that congress critter should be protecting. You should be prepared to explain that prostituting themselves to corporate big money is NOT what they were elected to do.
I truly don't know what's going on in Washington - has my senator taken a bribe? Is she just ignorant? Does she not care? Does she believe that she is protecting American interests? Has your senator and congressman taken a bribe?
It's not an easy thing to do, getting their attention. There are so many fund raisers to attend, so many lobbyists with deep pockets to keep appointments with - they don't notice a dozen, or even a hundred voters asking for attention.
Just be prepared, is all I'm saying. Don't expect a response that makes any sense.
I don't know about "most" linux users - but I have a few apps that are open when I log out and/or shut down. They open quickly when I log back in. Of course, I must stress the "few apps". There's no need to have ten spreadsheets, 4 games, 5 browsers, 3 terminals, and a dozen other apps all open at the same time. I CLOSE the ones I'm finished with, or don't plan on using at startup.
But, even if I had a ton of trash all open on my desktop(s) when I shut down - my *nix boxes will never get to the point that many Windows machines get to, for lack of defragging, cluttered registry, improperly registered DLL's, or misplaced/corrupted files. Notice that I haven't even touched on malware.
My HARDWARE isn't the fastest in the world, and yes, I wait about 90 to 120 seconds at boot up, before my desktop is fully loaded. But, Windows on the same hardware takes just as long when it's NEW. As GP was pointing out, two year old installations of Windows NEVER run as fast as they do new.
Tell me - what's wrong with just turning the damned thing OFF? I mean, all laptops turn off and on, no matter what OS they are running. Turn it OFF. Simple freaking work-around. And, every time you turn your laptop OFF and ON, dun the hardware manufacturer for proper support.
Jesus H. Christ - *nix users are SUPPOSED to be smarter than the average sheep, or cow, or "consumer", aren't they?
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/sarcasm/ Yeah, you're right. The last time I happened to stroll across a battlefield, there were referees out there, taking names, and checking that everyone was shooting at the proper targets, preventing anyone shooting at a civilian. This is the civilized way of running a war, after all. /end sarcasm/
Seriously, dude. If you're on a battlefield, anyone with a weapon is either "friend" or "foe", and if you ain't sure, then he's "foe".
As for the ACLU, or anyone else who objects to carefully targetted killing - what do they prefer? Bomb and napalm a village off the face of the earth, and hope that the intended victim died with all the villagers? These drones are a far more humane way to rid yourself of enemies, than using bombers loaded with thousands of tons of bombs.
Do they really want to go back to the days of Dresden and Hiroshima? "Kill them all, let God sort them out!"
Have you forgotten ACTA? That rancid pustule from a diseased whore's ass is supposed to ensure that everone, everywhere on earth complies with US patent and copyright law.
And, believe me, Microsoft has a voice in ACTA. ALL the rights holders in the world with more than a couple million dollars at stake has bought a chair in the discussions. You will note that voters, taxpayers, and citizens have no voice . . .
A lot of people make that claim. The number of people who have NEVER had ANY security issue with Windows is simply amazing, if we are to believe all those claims.
Oddly, McCaffee, Symantec, and all the rest continue to make money hand over fist, and tens of thousands of computer shops in the US have steady, reliable incomes, thanks to the various security issues.
I can't possibly say whether this particular AC is full of shit or not, but whenever I hear such a claim, I can't help wondering.
That helps to emphasize what some of the developers are doing with ChromeOS and similar offerings.
More than half the people in the world who own computers do nothing but check email, play a few flash games, do some online shopping, and other similar frivolities. Most people don't need multi-Ghz CPU's, super Fps video cards, terrabytes of hard disk space, or more than a gig of memory. And, most people don't need all the utilities, games, services, etc that are found in any standard Windows installation.
*nix. It just makes sense.
"VirtualBox hardlocks the host after about a month running XP without VT on my system. "
Elaborate, please? I've never had a hardlock with my VBox machines. You're saying that one month continuous uptime on the VM will do that? Do you have any idea why?
"Google Readying To Pull Out of China"
Sounds a bit like coitus interruptus, doesn't it? Or, am I just a dirty old man, and no one else made the connection?
And, this makes the nation feminine, and the corporation masculine, right? What DO you get when you mate an American corporation with a Chinse government?
Oh - never mind. I've got it. http://iwka.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abortion_22_weeks01.jpg
I don't know if that's entirely fair. I've cracked at least a half dozen passwords, for entirely benign reasons.
The ones I've done for fun, I can't even begin to count, LMAO
Nefarious? Well now - let's get ex-president Bill Clinton in this discussion, so we can obfuscate the meaning of "nefarious", along with "sex" and "is". ;^)
Dating a doctor? There was this little bitty lady who worked with my son when he had surgery, she had the biggest Betty Boop eyes - man, oh man. I could get into that!
"Pirating windows, contrary to what the parent of my post claimed, does not help microsoft."
You've forgotten that Bill Gates used to gloat over piracy in places like India. He likes to have his software pirated, for precisely the same reasons he offers huge discounts to schools. Like a drug pusher, he wants to see them hooked early.
"It's easier for our software to compete with Linux when there's piracy than when there's not."
-Bill Gates
In an interview with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher of Wall Street Journal, Bill Gates admitted to watching pirated movies on the Internet. Here are some excerpts from the interview posted on AOL News:
MR. MOSSBERG: Talk about YouTube. What do you think about that? Why aren't you doing something like that?
MR. GATES: If we did YouTube, we'd be in a lot of trouble. First of all, people would say, "How do you make money?" Second, they'd say, what about all that copyright violation taking place up there. It's a neat site. I saw a bunch of old Harlem Globetrotters movies up there the other night, it's great.
The malware means nothing to people like me. Well - maybe not "nothing", but damned close to it. If I decide to download a torrent, only to find that it's corrupt and/or carrying a payload, I've wasted the download time. The malware runs in a virtual machine, if at all, and I can restore the virtual machine instantly. The REAL machine won't run windows executables, so I'm safe, safe, safe. (no, I don't have Wine installed, or any of those new cutesy programs that rely on Wine)
So, come on, RIAA - if malware is all you have to offer, hit me with your best shot!
Mmm, yeah - I agree with your logic. But - there are a lot of secrets that SHOULDN'T be so secret.
Work your way through all the hype leading up to the invasion of Iraq. Oil never figures into the "official" line of reasoning. All the same, the flow of oil became a priority once the war started. Defending the oilfields became a matter of urgency. Getting oil workers to actually pump oil from the ground was "Job 1!"
I'm a veteran, and I've not one bad word to say about my little brothers who served in Iraq - but I will say that they were used by the administration. And, THAT should be made public knowledge. The "American interests" that were protected in Iraq were actually CORPORATE interests.
Oh yeah - what was the lineup of companies that eventually benefitted from the Iraqi oil wells? BP leads the list? British Petroleum? Operation Ajax was done for BP's sole benefit all those years ago. Man, oh man - those bigwigs at BP sure have a lot of stroke in Washington!
"Why are you godwinning me"
Well - uhhhmm - errr - have you actually looked at your nick, lately? Is Adolph a popular name where you come from? Personally, I've never met an Adolph in my life. There's only one whose life I'm familiar with. Godwinned? You probably get that all the time, don't you?
You know, that's not REALLY funny. I mean, I installed it, fired it up, and was testing it for several minutes, before I realized it was a pun. Dammit, I felt blonde . . . .
For the sake of argument, let's assume that Chrome really is spyware.
Did you not notice that the spyware is OPEN SOURCED?!?!?!?!
Grab the source, and recompile it. Take the spy out of the spyware, distribute it as "Spyless Chrome" or whatever you want to call it, and everyone is happy.
Oh - wait - it's already been done! Looky heah: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php
Now stop whining. You have available to you the best of Chrome, without the parts that you object to.
That must have been terrible for you. Are you sure you wouldn't like to appear on Oprah, and tell the world about it? I'm sure she will preserve your anonymity.
Alright. How does a malware add itself to an already running process, without altering the size and/or the fingerprint of the running process? I think it's safe to say that all common applications that are normally permitted to run in a corporate setting have already been fingerprinted to hell and back. How does the malware change the application without changing that fingerprint in any way?
Back to my Navy analogy:
FUCK YES I CARE ABOUT PREVENTION!!!
I was damage control. During any sort of incident, battle, or whatever, I want to SIT ON MY ASS WITH NOTHING TO DO!!! Damage control means exactly that: you have taken damage, there are casualties, and worst of all, the poor damage control teams are going all slippy slidey across the decks after they slip in the blood and gore.
An ounce of prevention is worth about a million tons of cure.
"As good as this technique may or may not be, it's not security."
Ehhh, you could have been a sailor. Back in the day, we had "security alert" drills, to deal with "intruders" all the time. But, that's all we ever had, were drills. The REAL security was focused OUTSIDE! If some boat, ship, helicopter, or even a frogman came close to our ship, we just blew them out of the water or sky. There was never a need to look for an intruder INSIDE the ship!
The most likely time and place any intruder might get aboard, was when we were tied up to a pier. Social engineering MIGHT cause some young fool to bring a malevalent guest aboard. But, the OOD, the POOW, and the duty section were all there to screen for potential bad people.
Trying to find the bad guy AFTER he comes aboard would be utterly ridiculous. He only needs a minute or two to plant his bomb, his bug, or whatever the hell he was there to do.
Security means killing it before it gets here. So, yeah, I like the way you think. Now, the problem is, convincing others to think that way. Most especially, those others at Microsoft.
*cough*
What you're saying is, you expect your equipment to make up for your lack of ability to plan ahead.
Your pointless presentation is scheduled for 10:00, so you rush in at 9:55, and launch into your presentation. You couldn't have arrived at 9:45, or even 9:00 to set things up, and PLUG THE STUPID COMPUTER INTO A WALL OUTLET. No, planning ahead, and actually being prepared would be to much of a bother, wouldn't it?
BTW - Linux does "just work". Turn the damned computer on, watch the BIOS go through it's thing for several seconds, watch the splash screen for several more seconds, launch your program, and go. At MOST, you lose three minutes due to the lack of ACPI. Those three minutes are to much to plan for?
You don't deserve to have your fucking presentation seen or heard, if that's true.
You actually need to check on what you're talking about. Seriously. There are at least two documentaries "out there" somewhere, in which today's modern engineering big shots have voiced opinions that they couldn't build a pyramid in the time frame in which the various pyramids were built. Not for any amount of money. Using the methods commonly used in building our modern skyscrapers, they couldn't move those huge blocks of stone from the bottom to the top. I won't swear to it, but I believe that one of those documentaries was done by the Discovery channel.
Oh, they could build a pyramid SIMILAR to those in Egypt - using concrete. But, they can't move those huge stones, as the Egyptians did.
Can YOU come up with a method of moving those tons of rock, that doesn't require electricity, or gasoline or diesel power?
There is at least one guy on the internet who thinks he has solved the problem. In his case, money might be the problem in building a pyramid on a grand scale. The rest? They don't have the skills, or even the knowledge needed to build those skills.
Much lesser feats of engineering have baffled out best minds for years. Another documentary was running on Discovery or History channel several months ago, in which some people attempted to match one of the Caesar's crossing of one river or another. Those Romans moved an entire army across a river between dusk and dawn, and our people today worked on the problem of building that bridge within such a short time frame for YEARS.
So much knowledge was lost during the dark ages, and the subsequent crusades.
Just for info - I wrote my senator a few weeks ago regarding ACTA. The dizzy wench sent back a form letter, which made it apparent that she and her staff are completely ignorant of what ACTA is all about. They have zero concept that ACTA and any laws that support the goals of ACTA actually award some tenuously defined "rights" to some sub-class of people, some of whom may or may not be citizens of the United States. They haven't a clue that awarding those rights actually infringes on the rights of a far greater number of people who most certainly ARE citizens of the United States.
I don't mean to discourage anyone from writing their congress critters - but you should be prepared to explain what "rights" mean, and whose rights that congress critter should be protecting. You should be prepared to explain that prostituting themselves to corporate big money is NOT what they were elected to do.
I truly don't know what's going on in Washington - has my senator taken a bribe? Is she just ignorant? Does she not care? Does she believe that she is protecting American interests? Has your senator and congressman taken a bribe?
It's not an easy thing to do, getting their attention. There are so many fund raisers to attend, so many lobbyists with deep pockets to keep appointments with - they don't notice a dozen, or even a hundred voters asking for attention.
Just be prepared, is all I'm saying. Don't expect a response that makes any sense.
Well, you haven't had a senator worthy of the name for decades. THANK GOD that "Senator Ted" finally cashed in his ticket to hell!
I don't know about "most" linux users - but I have a few apps that are open when I log out and/or shut down. They open quickly when I log back in. Of course, I must stress the "few apps". There's no need to have ten spreadsheets, 4 games, 5 browsers, 3 terminals, and a dozen other apps all open at the same time. I CLOSE the ones I'm finished with, or don't plan on using at startup.
But, even if I had a ton of trash all open on my desktop(s) when I shut down - my *nix boxes will never get to the point that many Windows machines get to, for lack of defragging, cluttered registry, improperly registered DLL's, or misplaced/corrupted files. Notice that I haven't even touched on malware.
My HARDWARE isn't the fastest in the world, and yes, I wait about 90 to 120 seconds at boot up, before my desktop is fully loaded. But, Windows on the same hardware takes just as long when it's NEW. As GP was pointing out, two year old installations of Windows NEVER run as fast as they do new.
Tell me - what's wrong with just turning the damned thing OFF? I mean, all laptops turn off and on, no matter what OS they are running. Turn it OFF. Simple freaking work-around. And, every time you turn your laptop OFF and ON, dun the hardware manufacturer for proper support.
Jesus H. Christ - *nix users are SUPPOSED to be smarter than the average sheep, or cow, or "consumer", aren't they?
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