I just talked to a guy at an AT&T store about the difference between the $15/m unlim data plan and the 'PDA package'.
He swore up and down that his girlfriend uses Pandora 24/7 and has never had an overage charge. I asked him why is it then that seemingly everyone on the internet that uses their iphone for what it's purpose is (internet) has had supremely higher bills because they destroyed the 5GB cap?
I tried every way possible to get someone to admit it, and they all insisted that there is no such thing as a cap. I told him he was full of shit. Yea, HE might not get billed more because he works for AT&T and they're good to their people.
Don't get me wrong, AT&T has been REALLY REALLY good to me over the last 2 1/2 years. I have absolutely no issue with their Customer Support. The problem is the lying by the overlords, which trickles down into retail, which makes everyone that has a hard copy bill with overages look like a liar.
He told me that only is the tethering capped at 5GB. The actual phone's data plan is unlimited like it says.
Can anyone at all, confirm or deny this? Maybe an AT&T employee that knows what the fuck he's talking about, not just what AT&T tells him is 'right'?
I think that's the most sense I've ever heard made out of this EULA debauchery. Finally someone is thinking.
But you forget friend, that this is not our world, this is the corporate world; they think on a different level than the average citizen and having the EULA available to you AFTER purchase is the corporate's way of locking you into a binding agreement without your consent. They figured if you wanted the game bad enough to buy it, then you're amped enough to agree to anything that's in that EULA. Imagine the surprise when Ubisoft shows up and takes some old gamers first born, but instead of flashing a warrant much like cops, they flash a dated EULA. That needs to change. That's exactly how I think though when I buy new software, whether it be a game or application, I come to the EULA and I say "Yea, yea, yea, I bought the damn thing, f*ck off" I AGREE. And the way they write those things up? The language and vernacular they use in those things? Jesus Christ, you'd have to be a lawyer to understand half of it. You can't omit words because they write it in such a way; you switch one or two words around and it could change the entire meaning of the sentence.
Oh, how impressed we must be with ourselves to resort once again to the dying Vista horse. Have you worn out your whipping rod yet? Would you like another? Or are you finally done restating the restated restated insult?
I understand it was 12:35am when you posted that rotten beef stew of redundancies, but it's inexcusable and unacceptable. Comments like those, and people like you are the reason evolution is an amateur unicyclist; there's no real forward progress because people like yourself sir find it necessary to pound inane facts and/or opinions until they're an unrecognizable pile of baby puke.
Do yourself a favor and cancel your internet service.
Do us a favor and set fire to your pc(or mac).
You know what, I'm not going to hold back any longer my attitude towards idiots like this. Screw internet etiquette, screw censorship, and screw people's fragile ego. I'm sick and tired of watching this world tumble ass over tea kettle into the downward spiral so that people can have their 5 seconds of regurgitated fame. It sickens me.
What, were you expecting everyone to amass and rally with you because you're so f-ing clever? Please; get over yourself.
*hands over the gas can and matches*
...Am I the only person on Slashdot that isn't a brand slave, a fan-boy or a spokesman for a company I don't work for? Am I the only person that could give a shit less whose image I have to defend to justify the price tag on my new system?
I don't understand why people continue to ask that silly question, "who would need more than that?" no matter what the product is. Unless sarcasm can possibly be that dry (My mega-ultra-dry-humorator detector didn't pick it up) it's just silly to not know read the trends of ancient past. PC's used to come with 50mb hard drives, now Seagate has a 1.5TB drive. Who needs it? I do. I have a 320gb drive that's almost full, a 160 waiting in line, and I wish I had more.
Honestly, this is what I would do with a drive that large. I'd put it into an external case, I'd install MojoPac and VMware on it, hook it up to a school or work server and see how many iterations of VMware I could run through VMware. Many people have talked about it, but no one has dared it yet. A virtual machine running a virtual machine running a virtual machine, and so on. Try to run every OS on the planet like that.
Who needs that much space? TPB, Google, Microsoft's next operating system, and Steven Hawkings so that he can upload his brain into it and live forever.
I don't know whether to point out the obvious sarcasm of the above comment, or just let you believe you were right in correcting him......too late I guess.
*shrug*
No offense, but blah blah blah to everyone.
The point here is that Best Buy has somehow made a deal with Canonical to sell something that they are giving away for free. Does this not scare anyone? Will Ubuntu follow Linspire into the non-free oblivion? Is this the end of OpenSource/Free software?
Obviously Best Buy is not doltish enough to find something that is free and just sell it. There must be an agreement with Canonical for this marketing ploy. Now, big business is what it is, and that is a large group of anal rapists, this is not coming into question. The worry I pose is the same worry that overcame me when I saw that some knucklehead was selling OpenOffice on Ebay for something like $2.00 per cd. Now, the licensing agreement that ships with OOffice from my understanding states that one can do what they wish with the program; repackage, modify, sell, whatever. Bad for them, and aggravating for me. I'm really really sick of people selling free software, when they had no hand in the production of said programs. I honestly feel sick to my stomach as I type this, because I feel something very very sinister brewing beneath the surface of Open Source, below free, and below honesty.
A shame it's not legal to kill people like this.
C'mon, everyone knows that the only TRUE geeks fall into one of the following categories:
1. Dualboot XP and some flavour of linux
2. Tripleboot XP, some flavour of linux, and Vista (only to vehemently thrash it in obvious spite)
3. Linux alone, WINE installed to run as many Windows apps as possible, and install every OTHER flavour of linux in virtualization.
4. Unix. Boring to the average geek, alien to anyone less geekier than them, but to the truly 3-l33t, Unix is a drunken coked up supermodel after a 3-day binger.
I just talked to a guy at an AT&T store about the difference between the $15/m unlim data plan and the 'PDA package'.
He swore up and down that his girlfriend uses Pandora 24/7 and has never had an overage charge. I asked him why is it then that seemingly everyone on the internet that uses their iphone for what it's purpose is (internet) has had supremely higher bills because they destroyed the 5GB cap?
I tried every way possible to get someone to admit it, and they all insisted that there is no such thing as a cap. I told him he was full of shit. Yea, HE might not get billed more because he works for AT&T and they're good to their people.
Don't get me wrong, AT&T has been REALLY REALLY good to me over the last 2 1/2 years. I have absolutely no issue with their Customer Support. The problem is the lying by the overlords, which trickles down into retail, which makes everyone that has a hard copy bill with overages look like a liar.
He told me that only is the tethering capped at 5GB. The actual phone's data plan is unlimited like it says.
Can anyone at all, confirm or deny this? Maybe an AT&T employee that knows what the fuck he's talking about, not just what AT&T tells him is 'right'?
Apple: iPhone 3.0 Update Delivers Pompous Patch Batch There, all better now. Continue commenting.
I think that's the most sense I've ever heard made out of this EULA debauchery. Finally someone is thinking.
But you forget friend, that this is not our world, this is the corporate world; they think on a different level than the average citizen and having the EULA available to you AFTER purchase is the corporate's way of locking you into a binding agreement without your consent. They figured if you wanted the game bad enough to buy it, then you're amped enough to agree to anything that's in that EULA. Imagine the surprise when Ubisoft shows up and takes some old gamers first born, but instead of flashing a warrant much like cops, they flash a dated EULA. That needs to change. That's exactly how I think though when I buy new software, whether it be a game or application, I come to the EULA and I say "Yea, yea, yea, I bought the damn thing, f*ck off" I AGREE. And the way they write those things up? The language and vernacular they use in those things? Jesus Christ, you'd have to be a lawyer to understand half of it. You can't omit words because they write it in such a way; you switch one or two words around and it could change the entire meaning of the sentence.
I had a hacker friend that printer out pages and pages of user/pass for the local ISP we all used. No one he knew ever had to pay for net access.
Those were the good 'ole days...
Oh, how impressed we must be with ourselves to resort once again to the dying Vista horse. Have you worn out your whipping rod yet? Would you like another? Or are you finally done restating the restated restated insult?
...Am I the only person on Slashdot that isn't a brand slave, a fan-boy or a spokesman for a company I don't work for? Am I the only person that could give a shit less whose image I have to defend to justify the price tag on my new system?
I understand it was 12:35am when you posted that rotten beef stew of redundancies, but it's inexcusable and unacceptable. Comments like those, and people like you are the reason evolution is an amateur unicyclist; there's no real forward progress because people like yourself sir find it necessary to pound inane facts and/or opinions until they're an unrecognizable pile of baby puke.
Do yourself a favor and cancel your internet service.
Do us a favor and set fire to your pc(or mac).
You know what, I'm not going to hold back any longer my attitude towards idiots like this. Screw internet etiquette, screw censorship, and screw people's fragile ego. I'm sick and tired of watching this world tumble ass over tea kettle into the downward spiral so that people can have their 5 seconds of regurgitated fame. It sickens me.
What, were you expecting everyone to amass and rally with you because you're so f-ing clever? Please; get over yourself.
*hands over the gas can and matches*
...unless he was a REALLY active member of the animal organization...
I don't understand why people continue to ask that silly question, "who would need more than that?" no matter what the product is. Unless sarcasm can possibly be that dry (My mega-ultra-dry-humorator detector didn't pick it up) it's just silly to not know read the trends of ancient past. PC's used to come with 50mb hard drives, now Seagate has a 1.5TB drive. Who needs it? I do. I have a 320gb drive that's almost full, a 160 waiting in line, and I wish I had more.
Honestly, this is what I would do with a drive that large. I'd put it into an external case, I'd install MojoPac and VMware on it, hook it up to a school or work server and see how many iterations of VMware I could run through VMware. Many people have talked about it, but no one has dared it yet. A virtual machine running a virtual machine running a virtual machine, and so on. Try to run every OS on the planet like that.
Who needs that much space? TPB, Google, Microsoft's next operating system, and Steven Hawkings so that he can upload his brain into it and live forever.
You have to remember this simple fact:
There is no cake.
I don't know whether to point out the obvious sarcasm of the above comment, or just let you believe you were right in correcting him... ...too late I guess.
*shrug*
No offense, but blah blah blah to everyone.
The point here is that Best Buy has somehow made a deal with Canonical to sell something that they are giving away for free. Does this not scare anyone? Will Ubuntu follow Linspire into the non-free oblivion? Is this the end of OpenSource/Free software?
Obviously Best Buy is not doltish enough to find something that is free and just sell it. There must be an agreement with Canonical for this marketing ploy. Now, big business is what it is, and that is a large group of anal rapists, this is not coming into question. The worry I pose is the same worry that overcame me when I saw that some knucklehead was selling OpenOffice on Ebay for something like $2.00 per cd. Now, the licensing agreement that ships with OOffice from my understanding states that one can do what they wish with the program; repackage, modify, sell, whatever. Bad for them, and aggravating for me. I'm really really sick of people selling free software, when they had no hand in the production of said programs. I honestly feel sick to my stomach as I type this, because I feel something very very sinister brewing beneath the surface of Open Source, below free, and below honesty.
A shame it's not legal to kill people like this.
C'mon, everyone knows that the only TRUE geeks fall into one of the following categories:
1. Dualboot XP and some flavour of linux
2. Tripleboot XP, some flavour of linux, and Vista (only to vehemently thrash it in obvious spite)
3. Linux alone, WINE installed to run as many Windows apps as possible, and install every OTHER flavour of linux in virtualization.
4. Unix. Boring to the average geek, alien to anyone less geekier than them, but to the truly 3-l33t, Unix is a drunken coked up supermodel after a 3-day binger.