Yes, I did. I'm talking about last year though. I was under the impressesion that they had dumped Google a while back and broght them back on. Yahoo's search results used to feature a Powered by google logo, but that went away.
This happen before. I had thought that Yahoo! had been using google up until about a year ago. They dumped them, and started using their own search. I stopped using the Yahoo search becuase the results were not as good as google's, or so it seemed. Am I completely off here? I couldn't find anything about it on the web.
I'm not a troll, have a look at my track record, anonymous coward.
If you would bother to educate yourself about the product that you are defending you would see that they too have had a history of not being responsive to discovered security flaws. Did I ever say IE was "good", no, I didn't.
I'm pointing out that opera, the commercial closed source product that it is, really, has some pretty serious flaws that sometimes, not always, get addressed in a timely manner.
Is that "trolling"?
Unfortunately, I've wasted 5 minutes having to explain something that an intelligent, open minded individual, would have figured out for themselves by actually bothering to read, comprehend and follow what i've written. Or, you might have read my post on an off day.
That first paragraph prented as the headline is a bit inaccurate. Basically the article goes on to explain that the part in question is part of an explosive bolt, read, disposable. The space station is not falling apart as out slashdot editors would have us believe.
Images of the object were sent to the Russians, and the boltlike object looked familiar. "Preliminary info from Moscow indicates that the eyebolt may be from the Soyuz solar arrays," the NASA report said. "Four of them are used to safe the [solar array] during launch with a hook mechanism, which is released via [explosive bolt] after insertion [into orbit]. The bolts are secured with a nut and a locking wire, and apparently one of them came free."
The same bolts are used both on the Soyuz crew transport spacecraft and on Progress, the Russian-built cargo-only ship. Both vehicles are currently docked at the station, and NASA sources said Tuesday the Russians now believe the piece actually came off the Progress, which arrived at the space station at the end of last month. In the past, during periods of strong rhythmic thumping on an exercise device, the solar arrays on docked Soyuz and Progress craft can be observed to jiggle.
Found on the bugtraq mailing lists, opera features a wide range of buffer overflow, aribitrary code execution, local file access vulnerabilities, etc. etc. Have a look. Some of them are quite nasty.
There have also been instances where Opera has not been quick to respond, these too are documented in the dicussion groups.
As far as I can tell the last Opera Only reported vulnerability was 12-23-2003.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? TROLL? WTF? Since when are actual facts Troll Material? Oh No Mr. Troll, well you check out, but but umm because we don't really like what you have to say, because you are in fact right, were going to make you a troll. What the hell? DID YOU CLICK ON THE DAMN LINK?
Found on the bugtraq mailing lists, opera features a wide range of buffer overflow, aribitrary code execution, local file access vulnerabilities, etc. etc. Have a look. Some of them are quite nasty.
There have also been instances where Opera has not been quick to respond, these too are documented in the dicussion groups.
As far as I can tell the last Opera Only reported vulnerability was 12-23-2004.
Is this *really* a good idea, at least at the moment.
Let's start with bandwidth. Downloading a DVD's worth of content over a decent broadband connection will take quite some time 2-3 hours.
So now that you have *spent a lot money* for this movie that's been downloaded, you are supposed to watch it where? On the computer, right. Except for the fact that you need to actually use your computer. How many people have their computer set up for watching Disney movies?
So of course! Burn it to a DVD. And yet... unlike buring CD's the world of burning DVD's hasn't matured to that extent. In addition, compression compromises in creating a downloadable copy are likely to produce movies that are not as good as their over the counter parts.
I think I will take my 20 dollars and go buy the movie, unwrap it and watch (gee that was easy).
How many channels do you watch on a regular basis? 70? Also given the fact that this is a mobile device it's not likely going to be replacing the TV anytime soon, nor the hours that one spends at home watching that TV. 70 isn't going to be a problem, for now...
Dude relax. Think about it, lots of machines have IPv6 running now. What there are NOT a lot of are IPv6 enabled routers. Forilla, if the packets can't get to your boxen, they can cause your boxen undue grief. How many IPv6 enabled routers do YOU have leading to your networks?
It's not a good thing that this happened... but theo is not incorrect in being a bit dismissive of the exploit.
Given your Zelousness you probably don't use OpenBSD. If that's the case then your one less system to patch.
It's not that it's a surprise. It's just a huge annoyance.
It won't be, when everyone upgrades to XP, you won't have to worry about this. They won't be making the choice to upgrade either. When people go out to buy a new PC they will get XP installed on it. Give it another year, and most of the consumer population will have it on their PC's.
Second, the download is 25 megs - really, it is not that bad.
What makes Oracle think they can still take over peoplesoft? Clearly PeopleSoft has no desire to be aquired - however Ellison would appear to be insistent on owning them. There are more ways to aquire a company than through a purchase of stock on an exchange. I didn't mean to imply that just buying all of their stock on the market would imply that they would "own" google. There would clearly be a majoity held by the principal of Google itself. However, by owning stock in Google Microisoft could start to guide it's direction and eventually set the company up for an aquisition.
Likely, Microsoft's interest in aquiring Google is reason for the IPO delay. Microsoft could easily buy Google out on the open market, by staying private they are a little safer from being aquired in a clandestine fashion.
"Excuse me? You must be confusing the IBM JVM with the Blackdown JVM from blackdown.org, which is a specialised port of the Sun JVM to Linux."
My mistake. But you missed the point - Sun has not implemented the best version of their own technology. They SHOULD BE, the source of the best implementations of their own standards and they continue to lag, horribly. It's rediculous that Sun lacks the ability to execute on their own designs.
As for the API - this goes back to performance, time should be taken to evaluate the end implementation result. The rate at which updates are made to the core Java classes should slow so that performance and completness can be adequetly evaluated and implemented.
The point I was trying to make is simply that Sun has exercised limited leadership over Java and that it's hurt the Java commuinity as a whole. They have and continue to draft "blue prints" and reference implementations but they fail to implement the "best of breed" of their own technology.
Honestly, Sun has been a perpetual source of sub-standard implementations of their own technologies for almost 10 years. What is the most trusted Java JVM for Linux or BSD systems? IBM JVM 1.3.1 "Black down". Increasingly this is no longer the case, as sun continues to revise the Java API faster than a decent implementation can be produced. I ask, Sun wants their net beans IDE to be "The One". Why?
It's not as if they have done a great job implementing their own technologies in the past. In fact Sun is responsible for a day to day lack of leadership of the Java Platform as a whole. Take for example the great mess of XSLT and XML parsers. Sun's "reference implementations" of such things are infamous in the developer community. Incomplete implementations and low performance drive developers to find other tools, which may or may not do things the way that sun wants - more importantly it creates an environment where developers must use different tools to get the same job done, creating incompatibility and complexity in an environment that carries compatibility as a flag of independence.
IBM has finally rallied around the notion of Linux and Java as a common platform - and Sun in usual fashion tries to "gain control". I ask the community what has Sun's control *REALLY* gotten us besides a mess of different API's, frameworks and "reference implementations".
The AMD64 veriant of of XP is still in beta, the only thing that seems to be holding it back is a 64-bit version of the.NET framework. Though I've been wondering lately if the delay is not the coding, but some more political, along the lines of "Intel and Microsfot are proud to announce the first 64-bit consumer desktop. Oh and *cough* support for AMD too".
802.16 uses different, and wider range of frequencies than 802.11b/g. It also uses multiple bands simulatenously 2Ghz, 3 GHz, 5.8Ghz. There seems to be a range even beyond 10Ghz that will be used. WiMax as it is being called, also uses these bands simulatanously, thereby achieving a higher throughput, and greater range. I don't know specifically what the power consumpition is like, most the hardware is in an "Alpha" stage.
I imagine the antennas will be much the same as they are now, as for bulk equipment - intially you'll have a brick for the base station but the chipsets will get smaller. Intel is planning to release an 802.16 style centrino solution for example. Much like wi-fi has shurunk so too will 802.16.
The biggest difference between 802.11x and 802.16 is that it is carrier grade, designed for multimedia, voice and data. The base stations will not be cheap (5k-30k), and will most likely require licensing in many countries. I believe 802.11 will still persist as a LAN standard, much like ethernet plays a role in the way we connect to the internet today. 802.16 will be the beginning of a wireless "Super-highway".
802.11b is not a viable access solution 802.11b does not have enough reach or capacity to service a city. Limited bandwitdh, 11 MB/sec makes deployment in highly populated areas an un-reality. Each node can realisticly support 10 or 11 households. To support densly populated areas, hundreds of nodes would be required. In addition there is no real "roaming" available with 802.11b. The G simply ups your limited bandwidth to something higher, at the cost of range. That's not really a viable solution. Finally the limited range makes deployment in rural and suburban areas an impossibility.
The way of the future A *SINGLE* 802.16 node would be capable of hosting about 1100 64K voice over IP channels. The same bandwitdh could be used to provide appx. 140 "broadband wireless" subscribers with 512K channels. That's pretty impressive. Stack 10 Nodes and you have 1440 broadband subscribers. Not only that, 802.16 was designed as a solution for Metropolitan Area Networks. 802.16 is simply an evolution of the 802.11 technology, scaled for carrier grade deployment, and the servicing of a large number of end users.
The real last mile solution In rural areas, and even some city suburbs the reality of "broadband" isn't coming to fruition. The primary reason is cost. It costs too much to deploy cable systems and becuause of the distance from a central office, DSL is not feasible. Satellite isn't really all that great as on of it's "Features" is the very high latency.
A new age 802.16 will begin a new wireless age. In the coming years we will find that there is no Data and Voice usage with our cellphones, as the notion of a "Data Channel" and "Voice Channel" will go away, all calls will be just data. Instead of an 802.11b card, you will have an 802.x chip built into your laptop or handheld device, you will gain access to the same network that your phone uses and the protocol to do so will be the same. We will all have access, uniquitous access to data from any place that currently has cellphone coverage. 802.16, and it's future generations will be "The way" that data networks are accessed wirelessly.
Income that is forcasted but not taken in the current fiscal year. Unearned income can come in the form of software maitenance contracts such as Software Assurance that are forcasted to last a certain number of years, but that MS only gets paid monthly, quarterly, yearly for.
A two year contract with a DSL provider would give them an unearned income stream of Monthly Rate * 24. There is no guarantee that will in fact make all of that money, since the contract could be terminated.
Intel has shown no real interest in joining the 64-bit fray. Indeed, they don't have much choice. To release a 64/32-bit chip at this point would truly create an Itantic out of the Itanium. Microsoft would have more or less wasted it's time producing low volume products such as SQL Server 64 and XP 64 (different than XP 64-bit extended which is as yet to be released). Other consequences for such a shift in strategy would include, a number of people investing in the itanic platform who would be the proud owners of an all but useless, but very expensive hardware platform on their hands.
Most real world tests point to AMD chips being faster. The Int and Floating Point Tests still belong to the P4 3.2, but the P4 is having to pass the 1st place troughy to AMD when it comes to games and office productivity.
And then there is price. For $320 you can get $700 worth of Intel performance. Mind you this is the AMD64 running in 32-bit mode.
It would appear that all that is really needed to justify mass market adoption is a consumer OS, that would be Windows XP 64-Bit extended. Currently in Beta. The only delay there is that the.NET framework is not 64-bit ready. We can probably expect it's release with VS.NET Whitby, a.k.a..NET 2.0.
After that - we just need to see some AMD adoption in the mainstream pc builders.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, I did. I'm talking about last year though. I was under the impressesion that they had dumped Google a while back and broght them back on. Yahoo's search results used to feature a Powered by google logo, but that went away.
This happen before. I had thought that Yahoo! had been using google up until about a year ago. They dumped them, and started using their own search. I stopped using the Yahoo search becuase the results were not as good as google's, or so it seemed. Am I completely off here? I couldn't find anything about it on the web.
I'm not a troll, have a look at my track record, anonymous coward.
If you would bother to educate yourself about the product that you are defending you would see that they too have had a history of not being responsive to discovered security flaws. Did I ever say IE was "good", no, I didn't.
I'm pointing out that opera, the commercial closed source product that it is, really, has some pretty serious flaws that sometimes, not always, get addressed in a timely manner.
Is that "trolling"?
Unfortunately, I've wasted 5 minutes having to explain something that an intelligent, open minded individual, would have figured out for themselves by actually bothering to read, comprehend and follow what i've written. Or, you might have read my post on an off day.
That first paragraph prented as the headline is a bit inaccurate. Basically the article goes on to explain that the part in question is part of an explosive bolt, read, disposable. The space station is not falling apart as out slashdot editors would have us believe.
Images of the object were sent to the Russians, and the boltlike object looked familiar. "Preliminary info from Moscow indicates that the eyebolt may be from the Soyuz solar arrays," the NASA report said. "Four of them are used to safe the [solar array] during launch with a hook mechanism, which is released via [explosive bolt] after insertion [into orbit]. The bolts are secured with a nut and a locking wire, and apparently one of them came free."
The same bolts are used both on the Soyuz crew transport spacecraft and on Progress, the Russian-built cargo-only ship. Both vehicles are currently docked at the station, and NASA sources said Tuesday the Russians now believe the piece actually came off the Progress, which arrived at the space station at the end of last month. In the past, during periods of strong rhythmic thumping on an exercise device, the solar arrays on docked Soyuz and Progress craft can be observed to jiggle.
There is no FUD in them there hills:
Found on the bugtraq mailing lists, opera features a wide range of buffer overflow, aribitrary code execution, local file access vulnerabilities, etc. etc. Have a look. Some of them are quite nasty.
There have also been instances where Opera has not been quick to respond, these too are documented in the dicussion groups.
As far as I can tell the last Opera Only reported vulnerability was 12-23-2003.
Opera Vulns
As far as open vulns go, that doesn't happen much these days. The hackers usually contact the vendor before posting their exploit.
that's becauase an attacker can simply write some nice nasty java script to blow away your files.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? TROLL? WTF? Since when are actual facts Troll Material? Oh No Mr. Troll, well you check out, but but umm because we don't really like what you have to say, because you are in fact right, were going to make you a troll. What the hell? DID YOU CLICK ON THE DAMN LINK?
Do your research.
Found on the bugtraq mailing lists, opera features a wide range of buffer overflow, aribitrary code execution, local file access vulnerabilities, etc. etc. Have a look. Some of them are quite nasty.
There have also been instances where Opera has not been quick to respond, these too are documented in the dicussion groups.
As far as I can tell the last Opera Only reported vulnerability was 12-23-2004.
Security Focus Search
As far as open vulns go, that doesn't happen much these days. The hackers usually contact the vendor before posting their exploit.
Just an FYI - Opera's performance when it comes to security flaws has been worse than I.E.
I must have missed something.
Is this *really* a good idea, at least at the moment.
Let's start with bandwidth. Downloading a DVD's worth of content over a decent broadband connection will take quite some time 2-3 hours.
So now that you have *spent a lot money* for this movie that's been downloaded, you are supposed to watch it where? On the computer, right. Except for the fact that you need to actually use your computer. How many people have their computer set up for watching Disney movies?
So of course! Burn it to a DVD. And yet... unlike buring CD's the world of burning DVD's hasn't matured to that extent. In addition, compression compromises in creating a downloadable copy are likely to produce movies that are not as good as their over the counter parts.
I think I will take my 20 dollars and go buy the movie, unwrap it and watch (gee that was easy).
How many channels do you watch on a regular basis? 70? Also given the fact that this is a mobile device it's not likely going to be replacing the TV anytime soon, nor the hours that one spends at home watching that TV. 70 isn't going to be a problem, for now...
Considering that is almost half the cost of such a plant, it is really going to help AMD's chip costs. Perhaps we will see affordable FX class CPU's.
Dude relax. Think about it, lots of machines have IPv6 running now. What there are NOT a lot of are IPv6 enabled routers. Forilla, if the packets can't get to your boxen, they can cause your boxen undue grief. How many IPv6 enabled routers do YOU have leading to your networks?
It's not a good thing that this happened... but theo is not incorrect in being a bit dismissive of the exploit.
Given your Zelousness you probably don't use OpenBSD. If that's the case then your one less system to patch.
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It's not that it's a surprise. It's just a huge annoyance.
It won't be, when everyone upgrades to XP, you won't have to worry about this. They won't be making the choice to upgrade either. When people go out to buy a new PC they will get XP installed on it. Give it another year, and most of the consumer population will have it on their PC's.
Second, the download is 25 megs - really, it is not that bad.
What makes Oracle think they can still take over peoplesoft? Clearly PeopleSoft has no desire to be aquired - however Ellison would appear to be insistent on owning them. There are more ways to aquire a company than through a purchase of stock on an exchange. I didn't mean to imply that just buying all of their stock on the market would imply that they would "own" google. There would clearly be a majoity held by the principal of Google itself. However, by owning stock in Google Microisoft could start to guide it's direction and eventually set the company up for an aquisition.
Likely, Microsoft's interest in aquiring Google is reason for the IPO delay. Microsoft could easily buy Google out on the open market, by staying private they are a little safer from being aquired in a clandestine fashion.
"Excuse me? You must be confusing the IBM JVM with the Blackdown JVM from blackdown.org, which is a specialised port of the Sun JVM to Linux."
My mistake. But you missed the point - Sun has not implemented the best version of their own technology. They SHOULD BE, the source of the best implementations of their own standards and they continue to lag, horribly. It's rediculous that Sun lacks the ability to execute on their own designs.
As for the API - this goes back to performance, time should be taken to evaluate the end implementation result. The rate at which updates are made to the core Java classes should slow so that performance and completness can be adequetly evaluated and implemented.
The point I was trying to make is simply that Sun has exercised limited leadership over Java and that it's hurt the Java commuinity as a whole. They have and continue to draft "blue prints" and reference implementations but they fail to implement the "best of breed" of their own technology.
Does it matter? Evidence either proves something, or it doesn't.
Sun - Shit or get off the pot.
Honestly, Sun has been a perpetual source of sub-standard implementations of their own technologies for almost 10 years. What is the most trusted Java JVM for Linux or BSD systems? IBM JVM 1.3.1 "Black down". Increasingly this is no longer the case, as sun continues to revise the Java API faster than a decent implementation can be produced. I ask, Sun wants their net beans IDE to be "The One". Why?
It's not as if they have done a great job implementing their own technologies in the past. In fact Sun is responsible for a day to day lack of leadership of the Java Platform as a whole. Take for example the great mess of XSLT and XML parsers. Sun's "reference implementations" of such things are infamous in the developer community. Incomplete implementations and low performance drive developers to find other tools, which may or may not do things the way that sun wants - more importantly it creates an environment where developers must use different tools to get the same job done, creating incompatibility and complexity in an environment that carries compatibility as a flag of independence.
IBM has finally rallied around the notion of Linux and Java as a common platform - and Sun in usual fashion tries to "gain control". I ask the community what has Sun's control *REALLY* gotten us besides a mess of different API's, frameworks and "reference implementations".
The AMD64 veriant of of XP is still in beta, the only thing that seems to be holding it back is a 64-bit version of the .NET framework. Though I've been wondering lately if the delay is not the coding, but some more political, along the lines of "Intel and Microsfot are proud to announce the first 64-bit consumer desktop. Oh and *cough* support for AMD too".
802.16 uses different, and wider range of frequencies than 802.11b/g. It also uses multiple bands simulatenously 2Ghz, 3 GHz, 5.8Ghz. There seems to be a range even beyond 10Ghz that will be used. WiMax as it is being called, also uses these bands simulatanously, thereby achieving a higher throughput, and greater range. I don't know specifically what the power consumpition is like, most the hardware is in an "Alpha" stage.
I imagine the antennas will be much the same as they are now, as for bulk equipment - intially you'll have a brick for the base station but the chipsets will get smaller. Intel is planning to release an 802.16 style centrino solution for example. Much like wi-fi has shurunk so too will 802.16.
The biggest difference between 802.11x and 802.16 is that it is carrier grade, designed for multimedia, voice and data. The base stations will not be cheap (5k-30k), and will most likely require licensing in many countries. I believe 802.11 will still persist as a LAN standard, much like ethernet plays a role in the way we connect to the internet today. 802.16 will be the beginning of a wireless "Super-highway".
*This is not backbone technology*
802.11b is not a viable access solution
802.11b does not have enough reach or capacity to service a city. Limited bandwitdh, 11 MB/sec makes deployment in highly populated areas an un-reality. Each node can realisticly support 10 or 11 households. To support densly populated areas, hundreds of nodes would be required. In addition there is no real "roaming" available with 802.11b. The G simply ups your limited bandwidth to something higher, at the cost of range. That's not really a viable solution. Finally the limited range makes deployment in rural and suburban areas an impossibility.
The way of the future
A *SINGLE* 802.16 node would be capable of hosting about 1100 64K voice over IP channels. The same bandwitdh could be used to provide appx. 140 "broadband wireless" subscribers with 512K channels. That's pretty impressive. Stack 10 Nodes and you have 1440 broadband subscribers. Not only that, 802.16 was designed as a solution for Metropolitan Area Networks. 802.16 is simply an evolution of the 802.11 technology, scaled for carrier grade deployment, and the servicing of a large number of end users.
The real last mile solution
In rural areas, and even some city suburbs the reality of "broadband" isn't coming to fruition. The primary reason is cost. It costs too much to deploy cable systems and becuause of the distance from a central office, DSL is not feasible. Satellite isn't really all that great as on of it's "Features" is the very high latency.
A new age
802.16 will begin a new wireless age. In the coming years we will find that there is no Data and Voice usage with our cellphones, as the notion of a "Data Channel" and "Voice Channel" will go away, all calls will be just data. Instead of an 802.11b card, you will have an 802.x chip built into your laptop or handheld device, you will gain access to the same network that your phone uses and the protocol to do so will be the same. We will all have access, uniquitous access to data from any place that currently has cellphone coverage. 802.16, and it's future generations will be "The way" that data networks are accessed wirelessly.
Income that is forcasted but not taken in the current fiscal year. Unearned income can come in the form of software maitenance contracts such as Software Assurance that are forcasted to last a certain number of years, but that MS only gets paid monthly, quarterly, yearly for.
A two year contract with a DSL provider would give them an unearned income stream of Monthly Rate * 24. There is no guarantee that will in fact make all of that money, since the contract could be terminated.
Intel has shown no real interest in joining the 64-bit fray. Indeed, they don't have much choice. To release a 64/32-bit chip at this point would truly create an Itantic out of the Itanium. Microsoft would have more or less wasted it's time producing low volume products such as SQL Server 64 and XP 64 (different than XP 64-bit extended which is as yet to be released). Other consequences for such a shift in strategy would include, a number of people investing in the itanic platform who would be the proud owners of an all but useless, but very expensive hardware platform on their hands.
.NET framework is not 64-bit ready. We can probably expect it's release with VS.NET Whitby, a.k.a. .NET 2.0.
Most real world tests point to AMD chips being faster. The Int and Floating Point Tests still belong to the P4 3.2, but the P4 is having to pass the 1st place troughy to AMD when it comes to games and office productivity.
And then there is price. For $320 you can get $700 worth of Intel performance. Mind you this is the AMD64 running in 32-bit mode.
It would appear that all that is really needed to justify mass market adoption is a consumer OS, that would be Windows XP 64-Bit extended. Currently in Beta. The only delay there is that the
After that - we just need to see some AMD adoption in the mainstream pc builders.
The rover grinding a rock? Perhaps... perhaps, there was something bad in that rock. Martians? Maybe rocks spontaneously combust on Mars.