While it sounds really nice, how many companies would endorse such thing as a law reform? Do you think any major player in the industry really have that will?
I can already see a bunch of professional lobbists trying to undermine a system that has been a profit source, mainly for lawyers.
I'm pesimistic about the whole issue. I bet 2:1 to the sharks...
How 'thin' do you want the application? I can hardly think of anything thinnier than a telnet. Works nice in everything between Memorex to Cray.
/sarcasm on Do you really need bells and whistles? Then don't loose your time and use VB/ActiveX. Nothing will make Windows fatter. Won't be portable, will break every couple of minutes, will be incredibly slow, but... who really cares? Looks nice! /sarcasm off
There are a lot of considerations when deciding what to do for a 'data entry' application. How intensive will the data entry be? Is there a lot of data validations prior to end your transaction? Is it database intensive? Is it calculation intensive? Will it use some/dozens/hundreds/thousands of screens/forms/reports?
Lots of times a poorly designed GUI is worst than a well designed character interface.
Can you wait 'till there's Linux Delphi? Is portability a big concern? Can you spend a lot of money in processor power? Have you considered other proprietary solutions, e application builders like Compuware's Uniface? (quite portable, very good for DB intensive apps, but too much proprietary and very far from thin).
As far as I see, Java isn't a bad solution. It is stable enough, you can distribute workload between client and servers and, as you say, only malicious borg code breaks a well-coded java app. Python can also work well (structured, robust, fast, easy to learn -and easier if you already know perl)
I feel your question too broad to have a simple answer. Good luck, anyway.
This kind of news and the way they are managed make me think that american media (including CNN and/.) is converging to the . ..
whaaooo back up fer a sec. Comparing CNN and/. as news sources?!?! While I'm sure this is very flatering to Rob and the crew at the compound, Do you really compare them? Let's take a moment to contrast.
I'm not comparing Slashdot and CNN exccept in the way they are managing news
CNN kinda lame
/. pretty kewl
This article was quite lame.
CNN thousands of reporters world wide providing video in real time back to a distributed control center
/. Rob
A few hundred moderators, some thousands nerds sending links with news that matter.
CNN world leaders turning to them for real-time news and insightful analysis
/. Rob does his best not to spill his Mountain Dew on his pizza while reading the um-teenth submited G4 story update
Bet 3:1 that world thech leaders also turn to/. for news that matters. Even in the closet. Rob (yes, he's cool) is supported by a lot of guys. Have you submitted any article? Have you metamoderated today? Symply by posting, you have made some additional work.
CNN Synonymous with fact, truth, what's going on
/. Synonymous with fact, truth and what's going on
Hey wait!. . maybe/. and CNN are comparable?!?!;)
Everything is comparable. Even if I'm not comparing any other thing that news management, I can even compare you to Pat Buchanan, and while it may not make any sense, I can do it. So, please, try to keep/. in a good level.
Roblimo, as usual, shows his rabid kangaroo tact dealing with news. Frankly, I don't know how someone can complain about Katz, at least he writes better.
OTOH, are we so news-avid that even a 5.5 earthqake makes news? And CNN work is terrible: using a file picture, forgetting to say if time (midnight monday) is local, GMT or whatever...
This kind of news and the way they are managed make me think that american media (including CNN and/.) is converging to the less common denominator, let's say 'National Enquirer'
I'd better like to read about religious wars (Gnome vs. KDE, Linux vs. GNU/Linux), FUD or whatever.
Please, guys: original post should be moderated at least -3 (Offtopic in/., troll and flamebait, all at same).
I've seen very few computer related movies, and all of them quite boring if not plainly stupid.
On the boring side there's, as you said, "Tron". Good for that time, with some visual effects that were interesting... then. On the stupid side (ID4) there are things as cracking an alien spaceship's computer (from the very networking protocol to 'seed' a virus on an unknown OS... bullsh*t). And in record time.
But you can't ask Hollywood to be a good seller and tell the truth. If you expect both from Hollywod then you're not far from madness: you're confusing reality with fantasy.
I mean, are A-bombs seeded weekly in NY? Why not, let's say, Denver or Redmond? Are all cops good looking, cultured, on excelent physical shape? Do all American programmers use Macs?
Hollywod not only fails to 'fitting in the non-verbal aspects...', it must fail everywhere unless it's a documentary.
The real problem is when you see the same crap in the 9 news and then believe that's the truth...
I found quite interesting your article... even if Katz missed the point again;) However I'd like to add some comments:
Suites, Its, scmhmits, who cares? Are you trying to coin a new term? Not worthy, indeed. Suits are far from extintion. Good for you and Andover that you have its. But Andover and your friends aren't the whole Corporate America, are they? While you can see some dressing codes more relaxed than a year ago, some companies (both client and service providers) ask even developers to keep on some dressing codes. It's not that I agree on that: I feel that any company that ask you to use 'Armani like' dressing can also ask you to wear 'Mao like' dressing anytime, I find it outrageous... however that's the way it works yet.
Using Its will be also confusing with a lot of more meaningful words and acronyms... nobody will use it. I encourage you to try a different word, original, non-acronym, meaning 'suit escapees' or something you like.
On IT shortage: We live in a closed system called Earth, like it or not. As far as I know, we still can't hire martian developers. Yet. However, as most people, you look in the american-centric way, being as guilt as ASME for overlooking a world wide web... or a World Wide economy. Maybe IT shortage will finish in *United States*, however it has triggered a boom on foreign IT salaries trying to compete with american offers. That's good, of course, because encourages a world market and somehow leverages humongous salary differences among world salaries.
When I tried to enroll some friends (yes, we have a 'hire your friend' bonus), some of them accepted, but a lot of them also got significative pay raises at home. Having half of the world's developers in US doesn't mean that corporations over the world don't have to compete, so don't miss the point. Global Economy is the word.
So the guys on the cavern will have also to account for world economy impact... maybe you got cheaper IT people, but paying increases abroad made your cup of cofee slightly more expensive because Colombian companies had to pay a little more to their developers to keep them at home. I certainly hope that Wharton School of Bussines take that into account, since you seem to forgot it. And, please: ideas and software development aren't oil. You can't compare both concepts (a natural resource and a human resource) in such an easy way. Sooner or later there won't be oil. And if in some point of time we humans are out of ideas, then it will be time to call a Vogon fleet to clean this place.
And last, but not least, has anyone called your attention about being rude with your e-mail? Jesux case didn't make you look good at all, and your last paragraph also made me doubt... maybe it's time to go back to engineering or refine your style a little.
I hope this won't be moderated to flamebait... I really try to call your attention on some points and keep high/. content.
After years and years of electoral fraud -with thousands of ballot fillers with fake voting IDs- Mexican parties and federal authorities got a "secure" voting card, with digital photo and a lot of provisions that avoid tampering (like holos, barcode, mag tape and so). However electoral fraud just shifted anywhere else but with the ID. Concerns are now that government even knows who did you voted for... Do you really think that the "bad guys" really need a legitimate ID to perform their activities? Is the real danger at home, with criminals and terrorists filling American streets? Is US so full of terrorist/criminal wanabees that this kind of data (digital fingerprints, digital photos and the like) are really needed? If that's the case I think that your problem is a LOT bigger and then you need some other solution, really soon. Since you have lived so much time in a democracy you are growing "fat and slow" on what can happen if a tyran arrives. Then you'll appreciate your -already lost- privacy.
Please think pesimistic, otherwise your liberties are as unsinkable as the Titanic.
I think it's very likely that almost any client-server design qualyfies within that definition. SAG-CLI (Language independent client for SQL), ODBC... both use
" A network system or architecture where a client (such as a browser) and a server exchange information using a control structure defined by metadata (e.g. expressed in XML) which describes
1.how to transfer updated information from the server to the client 2.how to transfer feedback information, and updates to that information, from the client to the server, and 3.how to process the exchanged information by reference to the control structure. "
Slashdot Mirror
While it sounds really nice, how many companies would endorse such thing as a law reform? Do you think any major player in the industry really have that will?
I can already see a bunch of professional lobbists trying to undermine a system that has been a profit source, mainly for lawyers.
I'm pesimistic about the whole issue. I bet 2:1 to the sharks...
How 'thin' do you want the application?
I can hardly think of anything thinnier than a telnet. Works nice in everything between Memorex to Cray.
/sarcasm on
Do you really need bells and whistles? Then don't loose your time and use VB/ActiveX. Nothing will make Windows fatter. Won't be portable, will break every couple of minutes, will be incredibly slow, but... who really cares? Looks nice!
/sarcasm off
There are a lot of considerations when deciding what to do for a 'data entry' application. How intensive will the data entry be? Is there a lot of data validations prior to end your transaction? Is it database intensive? Is it calculation intensive? Will it use some/dozens/hundreds/thousands of screens/forms/reports?
Lots of times a poorly designed GUI is worst than a well designed character interface.
Can you wait 'till there's Linux Delphi?
Is portability a big concern?
Can you spend a lot of money in processor power?
Have you considered other proprietary solutions, e application builders like Compuware's Uniface? (quite portable, very good for DB intensive apps, but too much proprietary and very far from thin).
As far as I see, Java isn't a bad solution. It is stable enough, you can distribute workload between client and servers and, as you say, only malicious borg code breaks a well-coded java app.
Python can also work well (structured, robust, fast, easy to learn -and easier if you already know perl)
I feel your question too broad to have a simple answer. Good luck, anyway.
whaaooo back up fer a sec. Comparing CNN and /. as news sources?!?! While I'm sure this is very flatering to Rob and the crew at the compound, Do you really compare them? Let's take a moment to contrast.
I'm not comparing Slashdot and CNN exccept in the way they are managing news
CNN kinda lame
This article was quite lame.
CNN thousands of reporters world wide providing video in real time back to a distributed control center
A few hundred moderators, some thousands nerds sending links with news that matter.
CNN world leaders turning to them for real-time news and insightful analysis
update
Bet 3:1 that world thech leaders also turn to /. for news that matters. Even in the closet.
Rob (yes, he's cool) is supported by a lot of guys. Have you submitted any article? Have you metamoderated today? Symply by posting, you have made some additional work.
CNN Synonymous with fact, truth, what's going on
Hey wait!. . maybe /. and CNN are comparable?!?! ;)
Everything is comparable. Even if I'm not comparing any other thing that news management, I can even compare you to Pat Buchanan, and while it may not make any sense, I can do it. /. in a good level.
So, please, try to keep
Roblimo, as usual, shows his rabid kangaroo tact dealing with news.
/.) is converging to the less common denominator, let's say 'National Enquirer'
/., troll and flamebait, all at same).
Frankly, I don't know how someone can complain about Katz, at least he writes better.
OTOH, are we so news-avid that even a 5.5 earthqake makes news? And CNN work is terrible: using a file picture, forgetting to say if time (midnight monday) is local, GMT or whatever...
This kind of news and the way they are managed make me think that american media (including CNN and
I'd better like to read about religious wars (Gnome vs. KDE, Linux vs. GNU/Linux), FUD or whatever.
Please, guys: original post should be moderated at least -3 (Offtopic in
Who cares.
I've seen very few computer related movies, and all of them quite boring if not plainly stupid.
On the boring side there's, as you said, "Tron". Good for that time, with some visual effects that were interesting... then.
On the stupid side (ID4) there are things as cracking an alien spaceship's computer (from the very networking protocol to 'seed' a virus on an unknown OS... bullsh*t). And in record time.
But you can't ask Hollywood to be a good seller and tell the truth. If you expect both from Hollywod then you're not far from madness: you're confusing reality with fantasy.
I mean, are A-bombs seeded weekly in NY? Why not, let's say, Denver or Redmond?
Are all cops good looking, cultured, on excelent physical shape?
Do all American programmers use Macs?
Hollywod not only fails to 'fitting in the non-verbal aspects...', it must fail everywhere unless it's a documentary.
The real problem is when you see the same crap in the 9 news and then believe that's the truth...
I found quite interesting your article... even if Katz missed the point again ;)
/. content.
However I'd like to add some comments:
Suites, Its, scmhmits, who cares?
Are you trying to coin a new term? Not worthy, indeed. Suits are far from extintion. Good for you and Andover that you have its. But Andover and your friends aren't the whole Corporate America, are they?
While you can see some dressing codes more relaxed than a year ago, some companies (both client and service providers) ask even developers to keep on some dressing codes.
It's not that I agree on that: I feel that any company that ask you to use 'Armani like' dressing can also ask you to wear 'Mao like' dressing anytime, I find it outrageous... however that's the way it works yet.
Using Its will be also confusing with a lot of more meaningful words and acronyms... nobody will use it. I encourage you to try a different word, original, non-acronym, meaning 'suit escapees' or something you like.
On IT shortage:
We live in a closed system called Earth, like it or not. As far as I know, we still can't hire martian developers. Yet.
However, as most people, you look in the american-centric way, being as guilt as ASME for overlooking a world wide web... or a World Wide economy.
Maybe IT shortage will finish in *United States*, however it has triggered a boom on foreign IT salaries trying to compete with american offers. That's good, of course, because encourages a world market and somehow leverages humongous salary differences among world salaries.
When I tried to enroll some friends (yes, we have a 'hire your friend' bonus), some of them accepted, but a lot of them also got significative pay raises at home. Having half of the world's developers in US doesn't mean that corporations over the world don't have to compete, so don't miss the point. Global Economy is the word.
So the guys on the cavern will have also to account for world economy impact... maybe you got cheaper IT people, but paying increases abroad made your cup of cofee slightly more expensive because Colombian companies had to pay a little more to their developers to keep them at home. I certainly hope that Wharton School of Bussines take that into account, since you seem to forgot it.
And, please: ideas and software development aren't oil. You can't compare both concepts (a natural resource and a human resource) in such an easy way.
Sooner or later there won't be oil. And if in some point of time we humans are out of ideas, then it will be time to call a Vogon fleet to clean this place.
And last, but not least, has anyone called your attention about being rude with your e-mail? Jesux case didn't make you look good at all, and your last paragraph also made me doubt... maybe it's time to go back to engineering or refine your style a little.
I hope this won't be moderated to flamebait... I really try to call your attention on some points and keep high
After years and years of electoral fraud -with thousands of ballot fillers with fake voting IDs- Mexican parties and federal authorities got a "secure" voting card, with digital photo and a lot of provisions that avoid tampering (like holos, barcode, mag tape and so). However electoral fraud just shifted anywhere else but with the ID.
Concerns are now that government even knows who did you voted for...
Do you really think that the "bad guys" really need a legitimate ID to perform their activities?
Is the real danger at home, with criminals and terrorists filling American streets?
Is US so full of terrorist/criminal wanabees that this kind of data (digital fingerprints, digital photos and the like) are really needed?
If that's the case I think that your problem is a LOT bigger and then you need some other solution, really soon.
Since you have lived so much time in a democracy you are growing "fat and slow" on what can happen if a tyran arrives. Then you'll appreciate your -already lost- privacy.
Please think pesimistic, otherwise your liberties are as unsinkable as the Titanic.
Some questions that maybe someone can actually answer me...
1. Is today UN-bashing day?
2. Is slashdot paid for redirecting slashdoters to Wired?
3. What's more dangerous on y2k, paranoia or computer glitches?
I think it's very likely that almost any client-server design qualyfies within that definition.
SAG-CLI (Language independent client for SQL), ODBC... both use
"
A network system or architecture where a client (such as a browser) and a server exchange information using a control structure defined by metadata (e.g. expressed in XML) which describes
1.how to transfer updated information from the server to the client
2.how to transfer feedback information, and updates to that information, from the client to the server, and
3.how to process the exchanged information by reference to the control structure. "
Change XML for SQL and you are defining both.
It will be a real mess at airports...
'Please wait, sir... we are rebooting our system so we can scan you'
'bullets.exe had caused an stack overflow on module bomb.dll DF056A:45778F'
The Conpass x-1280 runs on an Windows-based 350Mhz Intel Pentium II workstation
Then we don't have much to worry about. They'll see blue objects most of time.