It amusing to see the enemies of freedom, intellectual expression, art, culture and secular society feel compelled by this topic to leave the safety of the masks of sanity they normally hide behind and attack people decrying book banning.
Please. Continue. Out yourselves. One and all. Come. Come.
Oh so my point is false. Sorry i have to pin you down here. The rightness of my point is NOT obvious. My point being that these fundies are banning books which have never inspired anyone to harm anyone, unlike their holy book and the reason they're doing this can only be because , like all fanatics, they hold as the only good the advancement of their religion against their "enemies", who need to be persecuted- thrown out of schools, libraries, society if they can manage it.
That point is not obviously true. That is your assertion?
No , dude. My post was meant to point out two ironies. One was the the fundamentalists pushing for this round of book burning, oh sorry banning, hold as holy a book which has been used to justify death unlike the books they're trying to ban.
The second irony is that this jihad against everything not Christian is EXACTLY the kind of totalitarian impulse which, left to its own devices, produces historical body counts in the first place.
It's not that I didn't have a worthwhile point to contribute. It's that the dogmatic defenses your mind reflexively raises against any point that contradicts the world view you've adopted are once again distorting things which are perfectly clear to everyone not so encumbered.
I accidentally turned it into a numbers game but only in the minds of people who were looking for a way to avoid the obvious rightness of the point I was trying to make. Mea culpa.
Yeah just the opposite . . no one argues about Islamic fundamentalism because it's in no way controversial : we all agree it's barbaric. And? And you point is? Our legislature isn't filled with psychotic amoral predators like Michelle Bachman and Ted Cruz who espouse a Christian Dominionist theology and INTEND to destroy our government through any means at their disposal whatsoever , the government shutdown being just the LEAST of what it is they've said they want to do to this nation.
Come on, that list leaves out everything that happened before the 20th century !!! When did religion rule the roost for most of civilization and what percentage of the available people did wage war with and on?
Point is, the fundies going after House of Spirits (!!!!????) have no moral basis to start in after other people's literary works. In fact their DECLARING WAR on these peaceable books is just the latest manifestation of their bellicose, intolerant "kill everything that disagrees with us" mentality which is just exactly what produces a "body count" in the first place. .
It just so happens that history has not deposited these book burners into a political climate and historical time in which they have the power to KILL these authors. But they're working on it:
Crazy straw man. The POINT is who are these Christian Evangelicals to be going after peaceable books like these when their OWN "holy book" has been used to justify mass murder repeatedly throughout history and has a body count that reaches into the stratosphere?
Hard to believe anyone in this thread is so stupid so as to miss the point I made.
Get real. Americans explicitly, under the "theory" of "Manifest Destiny", wiped out the American Indians by massacring them, slaughtering their buffalo etc etc etc.
This was again explicitly a religious doctrine- "It is Manifestly God's Destiny for us that we should extend our nation to the Pacific" So please.
If American Indians were "inevitably" going to die because white people stood foot upon their shores , then would have been no need for the Indian Wars or the US infecting blankets with smallpox.
100 million American Indians dead between Cortez and the American Indian genocide. Plus, lower population then, so greater relative percentage. If you go by percentage of population, it's a total wipe out in favor of religion. .
I don't buy it. People will do for each other out of a natural inborn sense of decency. No religious exhortations needed. Christians didn't invent civilization, civil law, democracy , representative government, the concept of Rights or the concept of a shared, general welfare. These are the things that keep us from sliding back down in barbarism.
OTOH as is widely evident, nations founded on religious "values" are only too happy to slide back into barbarism. There is a direct, inverse relationship between how religious a nation is and how equitable and egalitarian it is. That's not for nothing. The more religious the state, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia , Yemen Pakistan India the worse off religious minorities and women in those nations have it- they're just much less equitable to their populations.
Even amongst developed countries this relationship holds. Canada is more equitable than the US and Denmark and the Netherlands are even more equitable than Canada. Religion is the go-to reason why some people should be privileged over others, why some people should be displaced, disenfranchised even killed. It's just a historical fact.
If you want to tell me that ystic Sufis, Sikhs and Zen Buddhists are peaceble grass munching bunny-people then I'm not interested in arguing about THAT kind of religious endeavor which may even have something positive to contribute to society. But evangelical Christians for instance, believe that it ultimately doesn't matter what you DO in this life, good or bad, because either your name was written in the Book of Life at the start of all time or it wasn't and if it was, you're going to heaven and if not, fuck you, you're going to hell and that's all there is to morality. They don't say this explicitly but it's a basic tenant of their sick fundamentalism. I am sure in other religions there are correspondingly demented core beliefs. See www.religionofpeace.com for details .
This may be new to some readers. Book:
God is not Great- Chris Hitchens
Point is, the people doing this banning are fundamentalist or evangelical Christians whose own book has caused untold real world suffering, unlike , say Tropic of Cancer or House of Spirits, for instance.
Actually I'm going to have to throw the Koran in there to really seal it up, owing to the efficiency of 20th century killing machines. BUT even at that, it's merely because the American Indians and Mexican Aztecs who died from infectious diseases aren't normally counted as having been "killed" by Cortez and the Manifest Destiny Christians .
But this is wrong. Anne Frank died of typhus, not in the gas chambers but she is rightly counted as having been killed by Nazis anyway.
Face it - religious wars and the books that inspire those wars have killed more people than other book or ideology.
More people have been persecuted, hounded, ruined, tortured, burned, murdered, and just exterminated en-masse because of a book called the Bible than any other document in human history including Mein Kampf and Das Capital put together.
No you don't sound like a shill and I hope I don't sound like a scold. The key for me was realizing that the sheer volume of stuff I have isn't that great. There are basically two categories of stuff i need back to- one is my downloads which represent some significant effort of *finding and choosing* on my part which would be hard to recreate. The other is self-created stuff, which of course is not replaceable - so that's pictures documents projects letters drawings etc.
The cloud works for stuff like movies and music purchased from the cloud and which live in the cloud anyway (Amazon, Google Play) so there's my nod to the cloud I guess.
There is one issue I have that I am not sure about. If I encrypt everything, then I am safe from theft and non-govt. level spying pretty much but the greater danger is losing that encryption key or having it not work for some reason, which is a danger I should have included and bolded since I've had it happen using TrueCrypt. I am actually afraid to encrypt everything because I am afraid it will either not work or reasons unknown- as happened- or I'll lose the key. If that happens, it's like a nuclear bomb went off and took out your whole life everywhere.
If anyone has an solution or wants to share their thoughts or what they do, it would be much appreciated.
You have to consider the idea that the NSA is blackmailing politicians or otherwise threatening them. This is after all one of the major worries of ubiquitous surveillance. How do we know we're not already there? This kind of thing was WAAAY out there for me before. Now I think it needs to be kept in the "not impossible" drawer and should evidence arise, not dismiss that evidence. Not saying I believe it, just saying it's no longer "impossible".
The alternative to the ACA was socialized medicine like every other developed nation has and which Obama should have fought for . the ACA is a stepping stone to socialized medicine. This is the path social security traveled also
Don't backup to the cloud anything of a personal nature such as itineraries, credit card and purchase receipts, anything with your identity in it or your address, anything of a business sensitive nature or related to sensitive health issues the list goes on and on, just anything that could be used by criminals to harm you or identify you or anyone you have documents concerning.
The problem is, there's no reason to believe that the cloud storage corporations will be any more effective at guarding against intrusion and theft than Target or any of the other thousands of credit card data breaches that are occurring on a rolling basis.
As soon as you outsource your disk drive to the cloud, you are giving thieves a view into something that would have no hope of viewing otherwise- everything on your computer.
It's far too burdensome for most people to divide their hard drive folders into "potentially sensitive" and otherwise. It's not how people think or organize their drives and what's potentially sensitive is not well defined.
A better way to achieve security is through a couple common external hard drives, (make a back up of your back up with the second one). Using very modestly priced or even free backup software that's scheduled to wake the computer and run (Seagate gives free backup software with some their external disk drives) will give you all the data redundancy you need and if you use a back up once a week to an encrypted drive (Samsungs SDD are both hardy to drops and shocks- no moving parts and come automatically encrypted) that spends the rest of its time *somewhere else* (work, a friends or relative's house house) then you've safeguarded against fire and natural disaster with at most a week's lost data.
I made a chart that details all the different ways that you can lose data or have it compromised and effective responses to them. unfortunately I can't post it here but I can list the threats . The ones in bold have actually happened to me and resulted in significant data loss. The arrows point to countermeasures. They are multiple physical external drives, multiple storage locations for drives, versioned backups on all backup drives , different power lines (internal cables) for each internal drive, surge protection , encryption.
Maybe no one is likely to do all these, OTOH with just two external and one internal drives you could and if it's automated there is no hassle. It's looks more complicated than it is. Also for small valuable files, you could use multiple cheap USB drives and keep them at different locations, encrypting each.
Backup plan:
accidental overwrite during backup --> versioned backups, multiple disk backups
accidental overwrite during editing --> backups generally
drive failure --> multiple disk backups
lost drive --> encryption
virus / spying --> encryption
power surge / misbehaving power supply lines --> different power lines for internal backup drives, surge protection for external backup drives
You don't get to choose to not pay taxes either, including SS tax. So what's your point? There's nothing about the ACA that makes it other than a dedicated tax. If we had done this with Social Security, it might not be facing these issues 20 years from now.
The problem is that people spend taxpayer money because they're not insured, because insurance companies won't insure them for anything like a reasonable rate or b/c of preexisting conditions. People show up in emergency rooms with acute conditions that are 1000'x as expensive to treat as the ounce of prevention they couldn't afford and we all pay for it.
One REAL logical entailment of your "plan" is to deny everyone even acute emergency care unless they can pay for it. Oh but that's too much like just outright killing poor people.
When your "plan" leads you to the plot of a movie as ham-fisted and brutish as the movie Elysium , maybe that's a signal that you need to rethink your premise.
The article and another one like it I saw on the Guardian indicates that the NSA will intercept your mail (called an interception! ) and "configure" any hardware you ordered then send it on its way.
However, they are expanding the market for computers generally considered. Like everyone else, I have a bunch of each and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future.
Oh and, Long Live Desktop Computers with replaceable, chooseable parts.
The vascular part I am guessing / noting / observing.. it's a,thing I noted a long time ago is all.
The rest of it is information readily available . The general topic goes by the name of neural plasticity which is broken down into functional and structural .
It's not the thing I research specifically so I am not loaded down with bookmarks for you but I know all about it from undergrad
For people with no neuroscience background there's books like The Brain That Changes Itself and of course it's a big area of research- pulled from the web without much effort:
Aside from that, what exactly do you think phenomena like PTSD are? Purely disembodied psychological issues? If you've were or have ever repeatedly sustained hard study, you'd notice that your whole "self" changes in response to your efforts. You're smarter, your experience of everyday life is richer etc etc. This goes on as long as you're willing to inflict a good measure of discomfort on yourself.
By the same token, leaving your studies for a time then coming back is an extraordinarily punishing affair. Along with feelings of inadequacy and bewilderment when faced with the same material you left even a few short weeks ago, there's a sense of awe at your own former self's output and level of functioning.
Like the song says:
When you're up / looks like a long ways down When you're down / looks like a long ways up
Yep. Same thing with computers. If it was up to IBM et al computers and the internet would still be the sole providence of the elites- unbelievably pricey stuff we only heard about second and third hand. The whole industry would be tiny, and super expensive. It's not he elites who ever pass anything along downstream, it's the tinkerers and hobbyists and garage inventors.
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It amusing to see the enemies of freedom, intellectual expression, art, culture and secular society feel compelled by this topic to leave the safety of the masks of sanity they normally hide behind and attack people decrying book banning.
Please. Continue. Out yourselves. One and all. Come. Come.
Oh so my point is false. Sorry i have to pin you down here. The rightness of my point is NOT obvious. My point being that these fundies are banning books which have never inspired anyone to harm anyone, unlike their holy book and the reason they're doing this can only be because , like all fanatics, they hold as the only good the advancement of their religion against their "enemies", who need to be persecuted- thrown out of schools, libraries, society if they can manage it.
That point is not obviously true. That is your assertion?
No , dude. My post was meant to point out two ironies. One was the the fundamentalists pushing for this round of book burning, oh sorry banning, hold as holy a book which has been used to justify death unlike the books they're trying to ban.
The second irony is that this jihad against everything not Christian is EXACTLY the kind of totalitarian impulse which, left to its own devices, produces historical body counts in the first place.
It's not that I didn't have a worthwhile point to contribute. It's that the dogmatic defenses your mind reflexively raises against any point that contradicts the world view you've adopted are once again distorting things which are perfectly clear to everyone not so encumbered.
I accidentally turned it into a numbers game but only in the minds of people who were looking for a way to avoid the obvious rightness of the point I was trying to make. Mea culpa.
Yeah just the opposite . . no one argues about Islamic fundamentalism because it's in no way controversial : we all agree it's barbaric. And? And you point is? Our legislature isn't filled with psychotic amoral predators like Michelle Bachman and Ted Cruz who espouse a Christian Dominionist theology and INTEND to destroy our government through any means at their disposal whatsoever , the government shutdown being just the LEAST of what it is they've said they want to do to this nation.
Come on, that list leaves out everything that happened before the 20th century !!! When did religion rule the roost for most of civilization and what percentage of the available people did wage war with and on?
Point is, the fundies going after House of Spirits (!!!!????) have no moral basis to start in after other people's literary works. In fact their DECLARING WAR on these peaceable books is just the latest manifestation of their bellicose, intolerant "kill everything that disagrees with us" mentality which is just exactly what produces a "body count" in the first place. .
It just so happens that history has not deposited these book burners into a political climate and historical time in which they have the power to KILL these authors. But they're working on it:
http://www.publiceye.org/christian_right/dominionism.htm
Crazy straw man. The POINT is who are these Christian Evangelicals to be going after peaceable books like these when their OWN "holy book" has been used to justify mass murder repeatedly throughout history and has a body count that reaches into the stratosphere?
Hard to believe anyone in this thread is so stupid so as to miss the point I made.
Get real. Americans explicitly, under the "theory" of "Manifest Destiny", wiped out the American Indians by massacring them, slaughtering their buffalo etc etc etc.
This was again explicitly a religious doctrine- "It is Manifestly God's Destiny for us that we should extend our nation to the Pacific" So please.
If American Indians were "inevitably" going to die because white people stood foot upon their shores , then would have been no need for the Indian Wars or the US infecting blankets with smallpox.
100 million American Indians dead between Cortez and the American Indian genocide. Plus, lower population then, so greater relative percentage. If you go by percentage of population, it's a total wipe out in favor of religion. .
It's true. We do have to count those. See my adjustment.
I don't buy it. People will do for each other out of a natural inborn sense of decency. No religious exhortations needed. Christians didn't invent civilization, civil law, democracy , representative government, the concept of Rights or the concept of a shared, general welfare. These are the things that keep us from sliding back down in barbarism.
OTOH as is widely evident, nations founded on religious "values" are only too happy to slide back into barbarism. There is a direct, inverse relationship between how religious a nation is and how equitable and egalitarian it is. That's not for nothing. The more religious the state, Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia , Yemen Pakistan India the worse off religious minorities and women in those nations have it- they're just much less equitable to their populations.
Even amongst developed countries this relationship holds. Canada is more equitable than the US and Denmark and the Netherlands are even more equitable than Canada. Religion is the go-to reason why some people should be privileged over others, why some people should be displaced, disenfranchised even killed. It's just a historical fact.
If you want to tell me that ystic Sufis, Sikhs and Zen Buddhists are peaceble grass munching bunny-people then I'm not interested in arguing about THAT kind of religious endeavor which may even have something positive to contribute to society. But evangelical Christians for instance, believe that it ultimately doesn't matter what you DO in this life, good or bad, because either your name was written in the Book of Life at the start of all time or it wasn't and if it was, you're going to heaven and if not, fuck you, you're going to hell and that's all there is to morality. They don't say this explicitly but it's a basic tenant of their sick fundamentalism. I am sure in other religions there are correspondingly demented core beliefs. See www.religionofpeace.com for details .
This may be new to some readers. Book:
God is not Great- Chris Hitchens
Point is, the people doing this banning are fundamentalist or evangelical Christians whose own book has caused untold real world suffering, unlike , say Tropic of Cancer or House of Spirits, for instance.
See the point?
Actually I'm going to have to throw the Koran in there to really seal it up, owing to the efficiency of 20th century killing machines. BUT even at that, it's merely because the American Indians and Mexican Aztecs who died from infectious diseases aren't normally counted as having been "killed" by Cortez and the Manifest Destiny Christians .
But this is wrong. Anne Frank died of typhus, not in the gas chambers but she is rightly counted as having been killed by Nazis anyway.
Face it - religious wars and the books that inspire those wars have killed more people than other book or ideology.
More people have been persecuted, hounded, ruined, tortured, burned, murdered, and just exterminated en-masse because of a book called the Bible than any other document in human history including Mein Kampf and Das Capital put together.
Just sayin' .
No you don't sound like a shill and I hope I don't sound like a scold. The key for me was realizing that the sheer volume of stuff I have isn't that great. There are basically two categories of stuff i need back to- one is my downloads which represent some significant effort of *finding and choosing* on my part which would be hard to recreate. The other is self-created stuff, which of course is not replaceable - so that's pictures documents projects letters drawings etc.
The cloud works for stuff like movies and music purchased from the cloud and which live in the cloud anyway (Amazon, Google Play) so there's my nod to the cloud I guess.
There is one issue I have that I am not sure about. If I encrypt everything, then I am safe from theft and non-govt. level spying pretty much but the greater danger is losing that encryption key or having it not work for some reason, which is a danger I should have included and bolded since I've had it happen using TrueCrypt. I am actually afraid to encrypt everything because I am afraid it will either not work or reasons unknown- as happened- or I'll lose the key. If that happens, it's like a nuclear bomb went off and took out your whole life everywhere.
If anyone has an solution or wants to share their thoughts or what they do, it would be much appreciated.
You have to consider the idea that the NSA is blackmailing politicians or otherwise threatening them. This is after all one of the major worries of ubiquitous surveillance. How do we know we're not already there? This kind of thing was WAAAY out there for me before. Now I think it needs to be kept in the "not impossible" drawer and should evidence arise, not dismiss that evidence. Not saying I believe it, just saying it's no longer "impossible".
Thanks for that link. For some reason, I hadn't read it. Very insightful from TechDirt and Pro Publica. Thanks man.
The alternative to the ACA was socialized medicine like every other developed nation has and which Obama should have fought for . the ACA is a stepping stone to socialized medicine. This is the path social security traveled also
Don't backup to the cloud anything of a personal nature such as itineraries, credit card and purchase receipts, anything with your identity in it or your address, anything of a business sensitive nature or related to sensitive health issues the list goes on and on, just anything that could be used by criminals to harm you or identify you or anyone you have documents concerning.
The problem is, there's no reason to believe that the cloud storage corporations will be any more effective at guarding against intrusion and theft than Target or any of the other thousands of credit card data breaches that are occurring on a rolling basis.
As soon as you outsource your disk drive to the cloud, you are giving thieves a view into something that would have no hope of viewing otherwise- everything on your computer.
It's far too burdensome for most people to divide their hard drive folders into "potentially sensitive" and otherwise. It's not how people think or organize their drives and what's potentially sensitive is not well defined.
A better way to achieve security is through a couple common external hard drives, (make a back up of your back up with the second one). Using very modestly priced or even free backup software that's scheduled to wake the computer and run (Seagate gives free backup software with some their external disk drives) will give you all the data redundancy you need and if you use a back up once a week to an encrypted drive (Samsungs SDD are both hardy to drops and shocks- no moving parts and come automatically encrypted) that spends the rest of its time *somewhere else* (work, a friends or relative's house house) then you've safeguarded against fire and natural disaster with at most a week's lost data.
I made a chart that details all the different ways that you can lose data or have it compromised and effective responses to them. unfortunately I can't post it here but I can list the threats . The ones in bold have actually happened to me and resulted in significant data loss. The arrows point to countermeasures. They are
multiple physical external drives, multiple storage locations for drives, versioned backups on all backup drives , different power lines (internal cables) for each internal drive, surge protection , encryption.
Maybe no one is likely to do all these, OTOH with just two external and one internal drives you could and if it's automated there is no hassle. It's looks more complicated than it is. Also for small valuable files, you could use multiple cheap USB drives and keep them at different locations, encrypting each.
Backup plan:
accidental overwrite during backup --> versioned backups, multiple disk backups
accidental overwrite during editing --> backups generally
drive failure --> multiple disk backups
lost drive --> encryption
virus / spying --> encryption
power surge / misbehaving power supply lines --> different power lines for internal backup drives, surge protection for external backup drives
lightening,--> surge protections, multiple physical locations
fire, natural disaster--> multiple physical locations
break in, theft--> multiple physical locations, encryption
HTH
It's proof enough that Snowden matters that we're talking about this now and we weren't in 2006.
You don't get to choose to not pay taxes either, including SS tax. So what's your point? There's nothing about the ACA that makes it other than a dedicated tax. If we had done this with Social Security, it might not be facing these issues 20 years from now.
The problem is that people spend taxpayer money because they're not insured, because insurance companies won't insure them for anything like a reasonable rate or b/c of preexisting conditions. People show up in emergency rooms with acute conditions that are 1000'x as expensive to treat as the ounce of prevention they couldn't afford and we all pay for it.
One REAL logical entailment of your "plan" is to deny everyone even acute emergency care unless they can pay for it. Oh but that's too much like just outright killing poor people.
When your "plan" leads you to the plot of a movie as ham-fisted and brutish as the movie Elysium , maybe that's a signal that you need to rethink your premise.
The article and another one like it I saw on the Guardian indicates that the NSA will intercept your mail (called an interception! ) and "configure" any hardware you ordered then send it on its way.
However, they are expanding the market for computers generally considered. Like everyone else, I have a bunch of each and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future.
Oh and, Long Live Desktop Computers with replaceable, chooseable parts.
The vascular part I am guessing / noting / observing.. it's a ,thing I noted a long time ago is all.
The rest of it is information readily available . The general topic goes by the name of neural plasticity which is broken down into functional and structural .
It's not the thing I research specifically so I am not loaded down with bookmarks for you but I know all about it from undergrad
For people with no neuroscience background there's books like The Brain That Changes Itself and of course it's a big area of research- pulled from the web without much effort:
http://education.jhu.edu/PD/newhorizons/Neurosciences/articles/Response%20of%20the%20Brain%20to%20Enrichment/
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/10/3019.full.pdf
http://psyserv06.psy.sbg.ac.at:5916/fetch/PDF/21906988.pdf
http://www.medicaldaily.com/talk-therapy-reverses-biological-structural-brain-changes-ptsd-patients-264229
Some notes on one methodology:
http://dbm.neuro.uni-jena.de/pdf-files/May-TICS11.pdf
Aside from that, what exactly do you think phenomena like PTSD are? Purely disembodied psychological issues? If you've were or have ever repeatedly sustained hard study, you'd notice that your whole "self" changes in response to your efforts. You're smarter, your experience of everyday life is richer etc etc. This goes on as long as you're willing to inflict a good measure of discomfort on yourself.
By the same token, leaving your studies for a time then coming back is an extraordinarily punishing affair. Along with feelings of inadequacy and bewilderment when faced with the same material you left even a few short weeks ago, there's a sense of awe at your own former self's output and level of functioning.
Like the song says:
When you're up / looks like a long ways down
When you're down / looks like a long ways up
Cheers
USB ports will take literally any instruction at face value and execute it. In the eyes of a USB port, there is no such thing as malware.
Yep. Same thing with computers. If it was up to IBM et al computers and the internet would still be the sole providence of the elites- unbelievably pricey stuff we only heard about second and third hand. The whole industry would be tiny, and super expensive. It's not he elites who ever pass anything along downstream, it's the tinkerers and hobbyists and garage inventors.