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4 Tips For Your New Laptop

Bennett Haselton writes with four big tips for anyone blessed by the holiday buying frenzy with a new laptop; in particular, these are tips to pass on to non-techie relatives and others who are unlikely to put (say) "Install a Free operating system" at the very top of the list: Here's Bennett's advice, in short: (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one. (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups. (3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer. (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently." Read on for the expanded version; worth keeping in mind before your next friends-and-family tech support call. > If you or a friend -- especially a non-techie friend -- received a laptop for Christmas, these are my favorite low-cost high-benefit tips that anyone can follow. They apply to any operating system, although I'm writing from a Windows-centric point of view.

Yes, a lot of this will be obvious stuff to techies, but I've found that if a human asks a techie "I just got a new laptop, can you give me any advice?", the answer frequently will (a) not cover these crucial bases, and/or (b) include a lot of unhelpful stuff to impress the listener. The following is a baseline for what I think a useful answer should consist of. (And if you're the techie, you may want to walk the laptop owner through following these directions, since I'm not actually spelling out what icons you have to click on, etc.)

(1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.

Your PC probably came with a trial version of an anti-virus program that will stop working after a month unless you upgrade to the paid version. Of course you can do that if you want. Especially if you ever think you might want phone tech support for your anti-virus software, I expect it's better for a product that you've paid money for.

On the other hand, I know people who thought that if they didn't want to pay for the upgrade to their PC's default anti-virus program, their only option was to let it expire and let their computer run unprotected. If you don't want to pay for a non-free program, install a free one -- Wikipedia has a list of 15 different free or freemium anti-virus products for Windows. PC Magazine gave their "Editor's Choice" award for best free Windows anti-virus to Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.70 in 2013 and AVG Anti-Virus Free in 2012, so either of those will work.

(Yes, I know you guys know this. But pass the word on to your Mom or kid brother with the new laptop.)

(2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.

The era in which everybody talks about backing up, but nobody actually does it, should have ended completely in 2013. Old-style backups, even the incredibly easy options, still mostly required you stop what you were doing for a minute, connect to a remote server or connect a piece of hardware to your computer, and twiddle your thumbs while waiting for some copy process to execute. So nobody bothered.

With cloud-mirrored folders, there's no excuse any more. I found out about Dropbox by asking a mailing list, "I would really like it if there were an online backup service that let me open and close files from a local folder so that there was no delay, but as soon as I made any changes, would automatically be queued to be backed up over the network to a remote host," and my listmates said, "That already exists." Windows 8 comes with the similar SkyDrive service already built in.

You can read a detailed comparison of Dropbox vs. SkyDrive vs. Google Drive, but the key point is to use one of them to mirror one of your local folders to the cloud, and get into the habit of saving stuff to that folder. Obviously this may not apply to you if you have something special going on (if you're creating large multimedia files that won't fit within the several-gigabyte limit imposed by these services, or if your privacy concerns are great enough that you don't want to back up files online), but it's good enough for most people. The horror stories about people saving months or years of writing, and then losing it all in a hard drive crash, should never happen to anyone again.

(3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer.

Some of my friends and relatives have no problem telling people, "No, I don't care if you need to check the weather, you can't touch my computer!" But if you can't resist the urge to be helpful if someone needs to borrow your laptop for a few minutes, then eventually one of those people will mess it up somehow -- either by installing a game, or visiting a website that installed malware on your computer, or just changing a system setting that you can't figure out how to change back.

When the day comes when someone needs to borrow your computer, you may be too rushed or might not know how to create an unprivileged non-administrator account that they can log in under. So go ahead and do it when your computer is brand new, while the thought is still fresh in your mind. Then if people who borrow your computer sign in under that account, in almost all cases, nothing that they do while logged in should interfere with your user experience when you log them off and log back in as yourself.

That's not a completely secure solution to stop someone from accessing private files on your computer. (There are many pages describing how to boot up a Windows machine from a Linux CD, in order to access files on the computer -- they are usually described as "disaster recovery" options, but they can also be used to access files on a PC without the password.) However, it will stop most casual users from messing up your computer while they borrow it.

(4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently.

I say "be aware" because, unlike the other three tips, this may not ever be something that you have to actually do. However, intermediate-level computer users just need to understand what it means: to restore your computer's settings and installed programs to a recently saved snapshot, while leaving your saved files untouched. This means if your computer has started acting funny in the last couple of days, you may be able to fix the problem by restoring to a snapshot that was saved before the problems started.

Intermediate users sometimes confuse this with either (a) restoring files from backup, or (b) doing a system recovery (which generally refers to restoring your computer to the state in which it left the factory). So if you're the techie doing the explaining, make sure they understand the difference. (A system recovery will often fix problems, too, but then of course you'll have to re-install all your software; a system restore is more convenient since it only undoes the most recent system changes.)

So these are the first four things I would tell people who were the recipient of a new laptop. What would you tell them?

310 comments

  1. Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    News for noobs,
    Stuff that doesn't matter.

    1. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know that if you don't use a battery backup, a surge could fry your laptop?

    2. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Seriously, why is this on Slashdot - it's something that belongs on cnet.

      (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.
        - No, don't use any local anti-virus as it chews up more system resources than a lot of actual viruses do - use something like Panda Active Scan.

      (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.
        - No, never trust cloud services for backups. Never trust cloud services period the only reason to use them is convenience

      (3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer.
        - No, if a friend needs to use your computer then you need to monitor their use at all times, otherwise, hand them a tablet.

      (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently."
        - "mysterious problems"... riiiiiight. Since this is referring to system restore and new laptops they likely mean Windows machines which means Windows 8 in which case you want to use System Refresh before you ever want to try System Restore.

    3. Re:Slashdot by darnkitten · · Score: 2

      Not only that, if you live in a rural area (or anywhere with poor infrastructure), surge protectors are essential. In my town, a high-rated wall-plug surge protector combined with an in-line protector, changed out annually, prevents disasters.

      I learned about the relationship between surges and fried motherboards the hard way.

    4. Re:Slashdot by timmyf2371 · · Score: 2

      (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.
          - No, never trust cloud services for backups. Never trust cloud services period the only reason to use them is convenience

      What would be your recommendation to a non-techie person if they want to make sure they don't lose their digital photographs in a fire?

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    5. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 2

      Hate to break it to you but in most rural cases a surge protector won't do much. Lightning strikes your stuff is getting fried protector or not.

      Besides, wall plug versions aren't what you want - you want one before it gets into your internal wiring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34r6RGF2JLA

    6. Re:Slashdot by NIK282000 · · Score: 1

      Start googling, that's how the "techies" figured it out, if you don't have the motivation to figure it out for yourself then get out your wallet and pay some one who does.

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    7. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.

          - No, never trust cloud services for backups. Never trust cloud services period the only reason to use them is convenience

      What would be your recommendation to a non-techie person if they want to make sure they don't lose their digital photographs in a fire?

      http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313349

    8. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      I should expand on this:

      Lazy way: Buy a single USB Key to backup essential data - attach it to your key chain so that as long as you are safe it should be too (not recommended for those who lose their keys a lot)

      Slightly less lazy way: Encrypt said data and have 2 USB keys with the same data, store them in different places/ways.

      Serious way: Buy a security deposit box and 2 hardware encrypted USB keys. Store 1 in the box and use the 2nd as your "active backup" - switch them out every 30 days or so so the most you stand to lose is 30 days worth of data.

      Hardcore way: Hardcopy everything and store offsite.

      USB key can be substituted for a proper external harddrive if data storage levels require it but I don't recommend trying to put the harddrive on your key chain.

    9. Re:Slashdot by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Rural? Hell I live in Urban and you absolutely need one. The electrical grid in the USA is a noise, brownout,spike mess, get a whole house unit and have it installed.

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    10. Re:Slashdot by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lightning strikes can fry stuff that is unplugged and in a closet. Had a lightning strike destroy a laptop that was still sealed in the box from dell. EMP's are a harsh mistress when they strike 20 feet from your house.

      But I have something that guarantees safety from even a direct lightning strike....

      Insurance.

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    11. Re:Slashdot by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      http://iosafe.com/

      OR the poor mans choice. Two cheapie external drives. take one to work every friday and bring the other back. Works great but requires the user to not be lazy.

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    12. Re:Slashdot by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Yes, and no. Without surge protectors, I lost a lot of modems, and a lot of hard drives, and occasionally a mainboard. Rarely, I lost a peripheral device. With surge protectors, I lose a lot of modems. The rest of my stuff just keeps on running. Surge protectors DO HELP. I really need to have the big surge protector installed on the meter, to reduce the impact on those inside the home. But, I don't suppose even that will help with the modems. *sigh*

      Please don't discourage people from installing surge protectors. As cheap as they are, if it saves even one high capacity hard drive, then it has paid for itself.

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    13. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      One problem with iosafe style devices: they may technically be "fire proof" but they are not immune to the laws of physics. When the external temperature rises that heat will transfer inside. If the fire gets hot enough at the location of the device it will corrupt the data on it or melt components required to interface like the cheap plastic in the head of a USB key.

    14. Re:Slashdot by INT_QRK · · Score: 1

      Best practice is to always create and use a non-admiistrator account for routine use, and an administrator's account only for **administration**. Also, never let someone else use your computer, period.

    15. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ioSafe devices are designed to protect data from the temperatures that would be reached in a typical structure fire. The casing and connectors are designed to be sacrificial. In other words, the shell and connectors will be destroyed, but the drive and data will still be safe. Extracting the drive is a snap - I've done it myself - but ioSafe also offer a data recovery service and will do it for you.

    16. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      Surge protectors aren't there to protect against something as powerful as a lightning strike. However, a decent surge protector will help with the everyday minor fluctuations in supply, and that alone can noticeably improve the longevity of just about any connected electrical devices.

      For a few bucks a time, you can buy ones that work just like slightly bulkier extension leads, and at least in the UK most of the ones I've seen come with an associated insurance policy as a bonus. Unless you already have more effective protection anyway or you're in an area with a very stable electricity supply, you'd be foolish not to use surge protectors routinely for any expensive electrical gear these days.

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    17. Re:Slashdot by cluening · · Score: 1

      Absolutely right. These suggestions are laughable, and that second one gives people a dangerous false sense of security. Mirroring is not backup - it will help save you from a catastrophic failure that is not able to mirror itself, but it won't safe you from the more common problem of deleting an important file the day before you need it.

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    18. Re:Slashdot by tompaulco · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, never let someone else use your computer, period.

      Exactly. My wife is complaining about her laptop being slow and popups and things telling her she needs to download something to fix her computer. I pointed out how I use MY computer probably 10 hours a day, including surfing the net. I literally have no AV running. I have had not one problem. Well, okay, I had one. My stepson used it for about 15 minutes one day, and then I had to spend about an hour uninstalling an unwanted browser toolbar that kept reinstalling itself.
      She let's the kids use her computer, and so there is all kinds of crapware running on it.

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    19. Re:Slashdot by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      - No, never trust cloud services for backups. Never trust cloud services period the only reason to use them is convenience

      Dropbox is not a bad solution if you have more than one computer. Since it syncs files between machines, your pool of machines provides the necessary redundancy. If Dropbox were to disappear tomorrow and your laptop explode the day after tomorrow, then you still have everything backed up on your desktop. I've been using Dropbox for some time now and find it very useful, particularly the paid plan with the version history.

    20. Re:Slashdot by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      While Bennett's advice is pretty poor, your response isnt much better.
      1) Either way your system has to perform heuristics (or it will be worthless vs new viruses), and has to hash the file to send to "the cloud". I suspect that the whole "cloud backup" thing is a bunch of marketing crap; im sure there are some benefits, but today's processors are remarkably good at the sort of stuff AV does, and a good AV (NOT SYMANTEC / MCAFEE) will not chew up all of your resources.

      I also thought your #2 point was railing against "the cloud"?

      2) Cloud backup systems can be execellent. Some allow you to specify both a local and a cloud backup-- this is basically the only economical / realistic way for an end-user to get off-site backups. Keep in mind that just because YOUR full-time job involves rotating tapes to an offsite vault doesnt mean that a full-time professor has the same time to devote to that. The system I use, for example, allows "mesh" backups to all devices on my account (using their local storage), allows using my own encryption key, and encrypts blocks prior to sending across the wire (rather than using SSL, and trusting the provider to encrypt). Id be interested to see what your objection to that is.

      3) Non admin accounts are fine to protect against user carelessness, and if youre really worried about a friend doing hardware / BIOS shenanigans, you need new friends. I let a roommate use my laptop for a final a few weeks back (OSX didnt allow the exam software to install), and it wasnt a big deal: if anything happened, I have backups and can wipe the thing. People are a lot more important than my laptop.

      4) my past experience with system restore has tended to be pretty bad, but I would say 2 things: 1), system refresh blows everything away, so theres basically NO reason not to try a restore first; 2), Installing hyper-V caused my Win8 box to become unbootable (driver conflict). System Restore is designed EXACTLY for that sort of scenario, and was able to get me back up and running in ~5 minutes.

    21. Re:Slashdot by LordLimecat · · Score: 2

      Good techies have realised that telling your average user to use USB drives for backup is the same as telling them "dont worry about it, you can start over when you have a drive failure". The number of times Ive been asked to help with a recovery, and the local backup was screwed / non-existent, is unbelievable. A number of times the user was convinced they had a backup.

      One of the biggest pros for cloud backups is that they tend to alert you via email when something goes wrong. Theres not really a practical way to do that locally: setting up an SMTP service for daily reporting will just cause the user to filter them out, and relying on it just for emergencies assumes that its still up and running after X many years with no maintenance or monitoring.

      I really feel like 80% of techies are only good when you stick them in a server room, and awful with end-users because they have no idea how actual real people go about their lives, and how important "works" and "dont have to spend time on it" are.

    22. Re:Slashdot by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Best: Use a cloud backup system, specify your own encryption key, specify your main USB drive as backup 1, the cloud as backup 2, and your NAS as backup 3. Set up your cloud provider to email you when stuff breaks.

      Oh look, now you dont have to spend all of your time swapping stuff into your safety deposit box, or hardcopying everything to an offsite location.

    23. Re: Slashdot by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      This!

      When you purchase a surge protector, what you're really paying for is that little piece of paper in the box. The one people throw away. The same one that often will warranty damage to electronics plugged into included surge protector.

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    24. Re:Slashdot by edibobb · · Score: 2

      Also...
      1. Forget antivirus. Just don't click unknown attachments.
      2. Get a USB drive. Uploads are slow.
      3. It takes 3 seconds to create a new user account for your friend. Wait until you need it so you don't forget the password.
      4. "System Restore can help fix problems that might be making your computer run slowly or stop responding." Someone please inform Myers

    25. Re:Slashdot by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Run your coax thru the surge protector. Electricity doesnt really care what sort of a line its going through; copper is copper. Itll travel thru a coax, to a modem, out through an ethernet line, just as easily as through a wall wart.

    26. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flickr.

    27. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.
              Never install an anti-virus program. They report all files legal an illegal to the (NSA, RAA, BigBrother)

      (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.
              Avoid all cloud services. If you have an SSD drive which will fail in three years buy a normal Winchester hard-drive for backups.

      (3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer.

              Never use your computer's administrative account for non administrative task. Always use PowerUser/Guest for every day use.

      (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently.

              Disable System Restore. It'll wear out and use up all available space on hard-disk.

    28. Re:Slashdot by fisted · · Score: 1

      Also, never let someone else use your computer, period.

      How sad that this is what it boils down to, in the Windows world.
      Well, it's probably okay if you don't have friends anyway.

    29. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ya not the best....

      1. sure. one out of four ain't bad... good enough to be an overpaid designated hitter on many major league baseball teams, even.
      2. not a fucking chance. back up to a medium that you physically control.
      3. keep 'guests' off your computer. dust off that old system and boot to a recent linux live cd for 'guest' use such as checking web mail, facebook or casual surfing.
      4. windows system restore sucks hairy horse balls.

      and there's more.....

      a. make your factory recovery disks and/or create a windows system image.
      b. stay the fuck off facebook
      c. keep install files and/or media and product keys secure but available for later reinstall when needed.
      d. never connect a pc directly to the internet without sufficient firewall protection.. ordinary run-of-the-mill consumer routers are fine for this.
      e. never run more than one antivirus with realtime protection or more than one software-based firewall.
      f. if you make money using your pc, keep your personal shit somewhere else, never never never use your moneymaker for personal web use, games, or let the kids use it.
      g. stay the fuck off facebook. (ya, repeated. for good reason)
      h. never open an email attachment or click a link in an email from an unknown person.. and even if they're known, verify the link and scan the attachment FIRST. be wary of 'hidden' extensions such as document.pdf.exe
      i. there's no such thing as a 'free' app. you pay in other ways, such as advertisements, usage/location tracking, or worse.
      j. if your display isn't a touch screen, keep your filthy, grimy hands OFF OF IT.
      k. laptop touchpads suck. get a mouse.
      l. don't buy a laptop in the first place if you don't need portability.. desktops are designed better for prolonged use and a longer lifespan, better expansion and upgrade options, have better keyboards, larger displays, and are much more serviceable than a laptop.
      m. laptops, for the most part, are NOT DESIGNED TO BE USED ON YOUR LAP. put them on a smooth flat surface when in use.
      n. change action for power 'buttons' to a more sane setting: sleep button or fn key = hibernate, close lid = sleep, power button = shut down
      o. if you don't need a screensaver for locking screen in a work environment (i.e. visible proof screen is locked when unattended).. DO NOT USE ONE. just tell the OS to shut off the display instead.
      p. a couple duplos (large legos) make for an adequate spacer behind the back 'feet' for extra ventilation when used in a stationary location... despite advances in heat and power reductions, some models still get very warm when cpu is under a load.
      q. laptops can suffer from a power surge when connected to the wall, just like a desktop or any other electronic device. do not skip the surge protection.
      r. stay the fuck off facebook (just to make sure you get the hint)
      s. don't eat or drink over your keyboard or laptop
      t. laptops and tablets are not frisbees. your kids may forget that.. you might too. don't toss your laptop bag on the sofa or the floor. set it down gently.
      u. if a file is important, back it up.. store separately from computer. if it's something you simply cant live without, back it up again and put that one in a safe deposit box or other secure offsite location.
      v. "the cloud" is not a backup device. just as the weather, data "clouds" come and go, may rain all over your parade... and others may be able to gaze upon them.
      w. secure your network.
      x. don't use open wifi hotspots without a vpn service to tunnel through
      y. disable wifi or bluetooth radio when not being used.
      z. keep operating system and applications up to date with security patches.

    30. Re:Slashdot by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      Yeah--you unplug if there's lightning: that "should be" common sense. Here, though, not so much lightning as "sweet raccoon love" on the transformer. Or big surges after blackouts, or golf ball size hail, or drunken accidents.

      For not-worst-case-scenarios, I tell my patrons to get the highest rated surge protector available locally and to put an in-line protector on the adapter cable, and to change them out after any major surge, or annually, if they didn't notice a surge, as we usually get one major electronics-frying surge a year. The ones who listen don't come in with that kind of problem. The ones who come in with fried components are either new in the area or are the ones who didn't get the message the first time.

    31. Re:Slashdot by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      Because it doesn't hurt to have a reminder that the people we deal with on a regular basis don't think the way we do, and don't necessarily have even the most basic knowledge we take for granted.

      "Is this "Foxfire" thing the Internet Service Provider y'all use here?"---actual quote from today.

    32. Re:Slashdot by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      1) AV is only needed when there's a problem and then it's best to get a fresh copy that is less likely to be affected by malware.
      2) There's nothing wrong with the systems themselves - it's the fact that you have zero control over the data (even if it is encrypted the procedures for keeping it properly backed up may not be followed) and there's always the risk of the service shutting down without notice.
      3) Privacy is the issue with guest accounts for me. That and what they may do which could land me in trouble because it's my IP
      4) I've found system restore doesn't fix most issues - it's great for preserving your settings but often doesn't fix the underlying problem.

    33. Re:Slashdot by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      1) AV is only needed when there's a problem

      That is not correct. AVs at least in theory do a number of things:
        * If you must use an outdated runtime (java etc), the AV will protect you from known attack signatures.
        * If there is a zeroday out there, AV provides another layer of security which may detect that zeroday by heuristics. For this, it is important NOT to be using a McAntivirus (norton, mcafee, Security Essentials).
        * Some provide sandboxing around various programs (Office, browser, PDF), further mitigating buffer overflows, exploits, etc
        * Even if a virus manages to get past the AV, it is VERY common for the AV to throw up warnings, alerting the user that action is needed.

      Cleaning existing infections is basically the last reason you would use an AV.

      and there's always the risk of the service shutting down without notice

      This is much less likely than that the user forgets to backup. Cloud systems generally provide email notifications, and the user would be alerted if such a system were going to shut down (at the very least, by error messages, emails, and credit statements). I have not once run into an issue with a cloud provider shutting down.

      Additionally, CrashPlan allows you to purchase an enterprise license which basically lets you run the "cloud backup" on your server. Doesnt matter if the parent company shuts down, once activated the server should keep rolling.

      3) Privacy is the issue with guest accounts for me.

      No currently produced OS would allow one non-root user to access another user's data, or install anything (drivers) that might interact with another user. If youre concerned with what they might do online thats another issue, but generally that shouldnt be an issue legally because it would have to be shown that it was you.

      4) I've found system restore doesn't fix most issues - it's great for preserving your settings but often doesn't fix the underlying problem.

      Depends what caused it. Viruses etc wont be affected; if you just installed a driver and everything blew up, it probably would fix it.

    34. Re:Slashdot by fast+turtle · · Score: 1

      skydrive offers the same benefits as dropbox when multiple computers are involved. I've been using both for a while and finally have things configured so that OneNote uses the skydrive for the main save location and dropbox as the backup location. Very nice as it means I can access them from my laptop w/o having to remember to copy them over due to the auto-sync

      Had to reinstall my desktop recently and once skydrive and dropbox were installed, did a custom install of Office to configure it for the notebooks. Quick and painless restoration (Installed Steam Client and it broke winupdate).

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    35. Re:Slashdot by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I should expand on this:

      Lazy way: Buy a single USB Key to backup essential data - attach it to your key chain so that as long as you are safe it should be too (not recommended for those who lose their keys a lot)

      Slightly less lazy way: Encrypt said data and have 2 USB keys with the same data, store them in different places/ways.

      Serious way: Buy a security deposit box and 2 hardware encrypted USB keys. Store 1 in the box and use the 2nd as your "active backup" - switch them out every 30 days or so so the most you stand to lose is 30 days worth of data.

      Hardcore way: Hardcopy everything and store offsite.

      USB key can be substituted for a proper external harddrive if data storage levels require it but I don't recommend trying to put the harddrive on your key chain.

      Why are techies so out of touch with The Real World(tm)?

      Unless you're visiting your parents/friends/cousins/etc houses on a weekly basis (not a bad idea), then guess what? USB keys will back up once. Honest truth - users will not lift a finger to back up. If it doesn't happen automatically, or requires manual intervention, it will not happen. It's a chore, and unless you do it regularly for them, it will not happen.

      I'm sure everyone's run across the "can you restore a file for me? I have backups!" only to find the backups ended a year ago because they "would do it next week".

      To be honest, the cloud backups are probably spyware, but they're also convenient. They don't do a single thing, and it's there. Their PC die? Well, their documents are patiently waiting on Dropbox, Skydrive, GDrive, whatever. Hell, set up OwnCloud on your own server farm and set up the client on your parents PC so it backs up there.

      You think these tips suck? To be honest, they're basic, and really, they're also geared for the real world. Computers are meant to automate boring tasks. Why are we forced to do stuff the computer can do automatically?

      Or do you really think that companies like Apple are all marketing? They understand the real world - that's why they do stuff like Time Machine - a simple, quiet, out of the way backup mechanism! Or auto-save, working on Time Machine that lets you go back to an earlier revision of a document, view it, copy and paste, etc,?

      You know, Microsoft made an excellent backup product - called Windows Home Server. Backs up the network nightly, does de-dupe, images every machine, etc. Silent, runs in the background, even wakes the machine to backup. Alas, it's discontinued, but it is one of the best things around - it just works.

      And anyone worried about NSA or "not owning the data" as an excuse to not have an automated backup plan? Guess what - which is worse - telling your parents/kids/etc that they should've taken the effort while you sit there trying to recover the data manually spending hours, or just retrieving the file for them? You can lecture all about the NSA as you want, and it'll fall on deaf ears.

      Users won't backup unless it happens automatically. Users will also let others use their PCs. That's the real world and anyone who says otherwise hasn't worked in a real IT department. Users are way too clever. If you ban use of thumb drives, they will either use cloud storage to share files, the file server will fill up with useless crap (intermixed with vital project information and somehow required for production), or users will send emails of the files around.

      Hell, you probably think Android's permission system is "pretty cool" when in fact, it's a perfect example of dancing pigs security. I.e., it's insecurity at its finest. Unless you're a techie. Which I can bet the vast majority of the 80% of Android users are not. Hell, I'm sure most of them think Android is an iPhone with pirated apps.

    36. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If someone ask to use my computer, I would tell them that I have encryption programs continuously running and it can't be touched. This is true and it sounds so technical that they do not press. It is the same if someone I don't know ask me to give them a lift. I tell them that this is a company truck and I am not allowed to take riders.

    37. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thunder god > Insurance god. You have chosen.. poorly.

    38. Re:Slashdot by kumanopuusan · · Score: 1

      But I have something that guarantees safety from even a direct lightning strike....

      Insurance.

      --unless the lightning strikes you.

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    39. Re:Slashdot by philip.paradis · · Score: 1

      I'm confused. Is Facebook still okay?

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    40. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh just create a different limited privilege account for them to use.

      They might encounter a privilege escalation exploit but hey guests might burn your house down too, doesn't stop most people from having guests.

    41. Re:Slashdot by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

      No, if a friend needs to use your computer then you need to monitor their use at all times

      Errr... what's wrong with your friends?

    42. Re:Slashdot by 7-Vodka · · Score: 1

      Bittorrent sync.

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    43. Re:Slashdot by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      I've often used Dropbox this way too. Re-install OS and wait for it to re-sync. Previous to Dropbox I used a remote server and rsync. Problem was that I had multiple computers syncing to the remote server and I synced manually. Sometimes I'd screw up and over-write a the wrong files, etc. Now with Dropbox that never happens. Plus, the version history has saved my ass on several occasions. Doing this sort of stuff with Dropbox is much easier for personal files than trying to figure out how to do it with rsync.

    44. Re:Slashdot by vandamme · · Score: 1

      This belongs on USAToday.

    45. Re:Slashdot by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Written by that half-wit asshole Haselton.

      Does he have some scandalous information that he is using to blackmail /. editors into publishing his mindless drivel?

    46. Re:Slashdot by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Thunder god is a PUSSY compared to my insurance agent.

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  2. comes with any Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All four suggestions are included when you buy a Mac.

    Just saying!

    1. Re:comes with any Mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure all of them come with Windows 8 now too. IIRC, Windows Defender now has anti-virus built in (the old Security Essentials), relentlessly pushes SkyDrive on you, has a guest account by default, and has a System Restore.

    2. Re:comes with any Mac by Megane · · Score: 1

      Also Linux, except you have to figure out how to turn them on first. Except for #1, since viruses aren't a problem.

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    3. Re:comes with any Mac by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      but the UI on windows 8 completely sucks, the Mac OS X one can work for a n00b though it has become bloated over the years

    4. Re:comes with any Mac by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

      I tried to get my mom to use a Mac several years ago, just so I wouldn't have to worry about her getting viruses ever again. Now, on every holiday I still have to hear her bitch about her *stupid son* who made her waste $1,500 on a computer that wouldn't even run her simple sewing machine software (THAT ONLY HAD A FUCKING WINDOWS VERSION). One year she even paraded the dead corpse of said laptop around for all to see, as direct evidence of my bad-soness.

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    5. Re:comes with any Mac by fisted · · Score: 0

      You tried to get your mom a Mac, which she paid for?

    6. Re:comes with any Mac by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

      I tried to get my mom to use a Mac several years ago,

      See, I can use bold tags too!

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    7. Re:comes with any Mac by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Nope.

      The first 4 that comes with a Windows PC is...

      Buy MS office, you really need it.

      Buy a wireless MS mouse Ignore that the insides say logitech.

      Did you know that MS has a online premium cloud service? you should buy that.

      Really, most people LOVE metro, you should never ever switch away from the metro interface.

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    8. Re:comes with any Mac by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If your mom is that much of an evil person, just stay away, you will be happier.

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    9. Re:comes with any Mac by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      There's only one thing to do. Revel in your status as the black sheep of the family. Take pride. Adopt that status as a badge of honor.

      How do you think I became "Runaway"? Grandma says, "There's our runaway!" so I just took the name as my own. There wasn't any internet back then, but I used the name on the CB radio, and later brought it to the net.

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    10. Re:comes with any Mac by fisted · · Score: 1

      Well i must have missed that, thanks.

    11. Re:comes with any Mac by cjjjer · · Score: 1

      Sorry to say but you clearly looked at your own needs before her needs. And since she would be the one using the device... Pretty much makes you look stupid...

    12. Re:comes with any Mac by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      I'm trying to decide if you are being sarcastic, because other than the Office comment, which there are pluses and minuses, everything single other thing I disagree with completely.

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    13. Re:comes with any Mac by ThorGod · · Score: 1

      Your mom is mean.

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    14. Re:comes with any Mac by yy1 · · Score: 1

      Why didn't you just put bootcamp on it?

      Unless this was like 10 years ago and it was PPC it would have run windows.

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  3. If you're buying somebody a device... by slk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and you are going to have to support it, buy them either an iPad or a Chromebook.

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    1. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      and you are going to have to support it

      Best decision I ever made was to persuade my mum to get a mac laptop. That's pretty much because my brother likes macs and now whenever she has a problem I go "uh.. try asking $OTHER_BROTHER. He has a mac".

      Took a while after that but now after years at the coalface, I'm 100% family tech support free. Except for my SO, but she has a linux laptop and much more interesting problems.

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    2. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by DogDude · · Score: 1

      Not everybody is a mouth breathing moron who needs yet another portable television. Some people actually need to *do* things with their computers.

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    3. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      interesting problems.

      And in case anyone tries to get smart, doing basic stuff is not an "interesting problem". Interesting problems arise from wanting to do unusual things which have no obvious solution on any system.

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    4. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Oh, like my mom - who has a S4 phone and wants to install skype on it so she can call her boyfriend on his phone (on the same plan!).

      I asked her - "So you have a phone, acting like a computer, that you want to install software on so it will act like a phone?"

      She says "yeah, I think that will be cute"

      (Feel free to start with the "your mom" jokes, but she's 77 and has been using computers since the 386 days and has proven to be fairly trainable)

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    5. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how fat is your SO?

    6. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by CreatureComfort · · Score: 4, Funny

      Most of my SO's interesting problems have nothing to do with computers or even technology in general.

      Sometimes I wish I'd gotten my degree in psychology, not engineering.

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    7. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by tibit · · Score: 1

      Now that's cute :)

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    8. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Or better yet, an etch-a-sketch.

    9. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

      My cousin has a degree in psychology, and he's on his third marriage. So, apparently, it doesn't help.

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    10. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I asked her - "So you have a phone, acting like a computer, that you want to install software on so it will act like a phone?"

      Hey, if your data plan on your phone is cheaper than your minutes on your phone, why not?

      If people didn't want Skype on their phones, they wouldn't be making it.

      And, really, modern day phones are every bit full fledged computers -- they just also happen to be phones. I'm betting her current S4 outperforms/outclasses the 386's she started with in pretty much every regard from CPU speed to storage.

      Hell, I strongly suspect that most cell phones nowadays would have been classed as 'supercomputers' not even 25 years ago. The line between phone and computer has blurred so much, and since you can install software which pretty much does everything, I fail to see why a cell phone isn't a computer these days. It sure meets any definition I saw in school.

      They're all Turing complete, and with general purpose instruction sets.

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    11. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by operagost · · Score: 1

      I thought the point of Skype was for video.

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    12. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      My wife ran Ubuntu for 6 years while she finished her masters. I NEVER had to touch her laptop for any issue. She was able to figure out every single thing on her own and even did an upgrade on her own.

      Granted she is smart enough to know when a professor demands "you must only use MICROSOFT WORD" that they are simply full of crap and she used Open office anyways. No not a CS or IT major ACCOUNTING.

      When I bought her a new macbook pro, the first thing she did was ask me to help install Ubuntu to dual boot with OSX. Bootcamp is not linux compatible yet. She has since figured out parallels is more fun and went that route.

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    13. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      We celebrated our silver anniversary last year. "Interesting problems" generally consist of trying to cohabitate with a member of the opposite sex. Linux problems can be interesting, but never as interesting as the problems that the special other causes. ;^)

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    14. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Actually - that idea isn't as stupid as it sounds, out here in the sticks. Cell phone coverage sucks. Let's say the kid wants to get hold of me, because his motorcycle is broke down. My cell phone doesn't receive worth crap, here at the house. I may or may not answer the house phone if it rings. He can text me on the cell phone, if I remembered to plug the blasted thing in. But, if I am at home, I check email pretty frequently. If I had Skype installed, I would almost certainly be close enough to answer him.

      Granted, it's not really the best of all possible worlds - that's obvious. But, sometimes, it might really be a pretty good idea.

      Except that I can't be bothered with Skype. Email or text, unless he wants to wait for the answering machine, then yells, "HEY DAD, IT'S ME, ANSWER THE PHONE!!"

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    15. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by isorox · · Score: 1

      Oh, like my mom - who has a S4 phone and wants to install skype on it so she can call her boyfriend on his phone (on the same plan!).

      I asked her - "So you have a phone, acting like a computer, that you want to install software on so it will act like a phone?"

      I've got a voip app on my phone. It ties in with my company's internal exchange, which allows me to make internal calls for free, and external and international calls for almost free.

      This is particularly useful when
      * you're in areas with patchy phone signals but plenty of wifi (our offices in India and the hotel I frequent in Jerusalem spring to mind)
      * You are tying to keep your phone bill below $1k a month

    16. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I told my mother that if her next computer was not a Mac, that I would not help her in any way whatsoever with any computer problem she had. She grumbled, but acquiesced, and except for a a few weeks of acclimating to a different OS, I never heard about any computer problems ever again.

      Any operating system that requires anti-virus software to be safe should be avoided at all costs. Anti-virus software is worse than the disease it purports to cure.

    17. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      An extra $1000 just so I dont have to spend 2 hours once a year cleaning it is a pretty tough pill to swallow. Not sure how much you get paid but my salary isnt that high.

    18. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't have $OTHER_BROTHER there's always "go to the Apple store in the local mall".

    19. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      An extra $1000 just so I dont have to spend 2 hours once a year cleaning it is a pretty tough pill to swallow

      Not my money.

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    20. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife ran Ubuntu for 6 years while she finished her masters.

      Huh. And here I've been a bachelor for decades because I didn't think women's hardware supported Linux. Time for some online dating. "Hey baby, I'm a *nix admin. Have you heard the joke with all the GNU commands used suggestively?"

    21. Re: If you're buying somebody a device... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of my SO's interesting problems are because she hasn't met me yet.

      At least, I keep telling myself that.

    22. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      Any operating system that requires anti-virus software to be safe should be avoided at all costs.

      ...except for the three times a year that you have to do paperwork/reports on a G--d--'d IE6-compliant website.

    23. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That's why God invented VMware.

    24. Re:If you're buying somebody a device... by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      You know--I've never actually tried to run IE on a virtual machine on linux. I wonder if it would let me finish a form on that website--there's (IME) a better than 30% chance of one of the forms crashing even on Windows firefox using the IE rendering engine. Thanks! You've given me something to think about.

  4. NSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups."
    Was this article written by the NSA?

    1. Re:NSA by Virtucon · · Score: 2

      EncFS or BoxCryptor are your friend.

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    2. Re:NSA by CreatureComfort · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or just start out with SpiderOak to start with.

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    3. Re:NSA by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Sure, lots of services out there but it's better to implement a tactile level of security regardless of provider.

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    4. Re:NSA by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Or just start out with SpiderOak to start with.

      Or better, keep YOUR data where it belongs, in YOUR possession. Encrypted or not the safest place for your data is offline where you know it is safe, not on an active machine tied to the Internet. For crying out loud, people!

    5. Re:NSA by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Ive never touched encrypted bits before, are they fluffier than regular bits?

  5. ZOMG! Thank You! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ZOMG! Thank you so much! I had no idea how to use a Windows computer at the most basic level. Thank God I found this computer n000b beginner site called Slashdot that posts insightful stories about how to do it.

    I'm going to tell everyone on AOL and MySpace about this article.

    1. Re:ZOMG! Thank You! by Nestea_Zen · · Score: 1

      I'm in the mood. What do you want to eat troll? I have leftovers too.

    2. Re:ZOMG! Thank You! by JLennox · · Score: 1

      Trolling is when they're not trying to be obvious... or I'm getting trolled right now... DAMN IT!

    3. Re:ZOMG! Thank You! by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      Pssst! Hey, Nestea_Zen! Feed him the leftover turkey from Thanksgiving!

      No, no, no, not the one from last month's Thanksgiving! The other one, the freezer burnt one down in the bottom of the freezer. Yeah, THAT ONE! The one from LAST YEAR'S THANKSGIVING!

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    4. Re:ZOMG! Thank You! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm going to tell everyone on AOL and MySpace about this article.

      That shouldn't take long

  6. Interesting potential issue by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "(2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups."

    Anyone with experience in ransomware know if they encrypt the files in, say, the user folder (where all of these mirrored cloud services live by default) does that echo to the cloud host, ransoming everything there too? If thats the case then it might be a good idea to at least stay one step ahead of the bad guys and put the folder somewhere else in the system.

    1. Re:Interesting potential issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know Dropbox does this, but I am sure others do too. There is some versioning of files available and deleted or replaced files are recoverable for some time afterward.

    2. Re:Interesting potential issue by localroger · · Score: 1

      Yes the ransomware will encrypt your cloud backups and mounted network drives -- it's not at all limited to your user folder. If the cloud backup service keeps an archive then you might be OK, but the free DropBox service doesn't.

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    3. Re:Interesting potential issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it does. You can revert files back to previous versions using their web interface. It's saved my bacon a few times.

    4. Re:Interesting potential issue by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Huh? Just log a Dropbox support ticket and they will roll your Dropbox back to the point before the ransomware did its work. See this on the Dropbox forum regularly, so I know its available and happens.

      Oh, and the free Dropbox account comes with a 30 day undelete archive.

    5. Re:Interesting potential issue by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      That depends, mostly on what system you are using, and whether its a backup or a sync.
      Most backup systems use versioning, and many specify old versions as unwriteable. For those, the most recent copies would be bad, but you would have good backups until the retention period passed-- at some point all of your stored versions will be the bad copy. If you're using a simple full-backup with X copies system, that retention period will pass pretty quick, possibly before you realize you got hit.

      For syncing programs (google drive, aerofs, skydrive), it again depends on which one. These tend to be designed to exactly mirror what you have locally, so its very possible that you will lose your "backup"-- Rsync, for example, would hose any good copies you have as soon as it ran. Some do have versioning systems, but many allow complete deletion of files / all versions-- so if a user were to delete said ransomware'd file, he might be killing his "backup".

      These also tend to run their syncs in real time, which is why they ARENT BACKUPS. Its also why Bennett's advice as worded is exceptionally poor: Google drive is great for syncing, and awful for backups.

    6. Re:Interesting potential issue by James+McGuigan · · Score: 1

      Dropbox also offers a paid for "Rat Pack" feature that offers a version control backup since the beginning of time (or when you added Rat Pack)

    7. Re:Interesting potential issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, Cryptolocker (for example) will access and lock everything it can. I personally know of one company which lost their entire LAN, including server and anything connected at the time (yes, personal laptops that were simply on the network) plus all of their cloud resources. The only safe backups are airgapped. I backup non-security-critical stuff to the cloud, but my real backup is a physical RAID stored off-site, unplugged, in a fireproof box. And I'm just a one-man show.

  7. Kim Kommando is that you?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why is this garbage on Slashdot? the people who read this site don't need to be told about running AV software or the danger of running as admin or root.

    Editors, please stop pandering to the lowest common denominator end user who will never read Slashdot anyhow

  8. Cloud != Backup by Imagix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Augh! A mirrored folder to the cloud is _not_ backup! If you delete a file from the folder, that gets mirrored into the cloud so it's gone there too. If you overwrite a file in the mirrored folder, that gets mirrored to the cloud and it's changed there too. This is the same story as RAID drives. That's adding redundancy/resiliency. In the event of a failure of your local drive, yes, there's a second copy elsewhere. But in the event of "oops, I accidentally deleted a file I wanted to keep" you're out of luck.

    1. Re:Cloud != Backup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This, a thousand times, this. Almost all non-techie users I talk to think syncing folders to Dropbox or Ubuntu One means they have a backup. They don't seem to understand that a deleted or corrupted file locally means the damage gets done remotely. Cloud storage is not a backup, it is a synchornization tool. It's convenient and, in some cases, dangerous. A sync tool should never be used in place of a backup.

    2. Re: Cloud != Backup by bryanp · · Score: 4, Informative

      It does in the short term. Most of the cloud services let you recover/undelete a file for up to 30 days.

      You're right that it's not a "real backup", but honestly you aren't going to get most people to do a real backup with any consistency. Cloud backup of a documents folder is a useful stopgap.

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    3. Re: Cloud != Backup by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      It does in the short term. Most of the cloud services let you recover/undelete a file for up to 30 days.

      You're right that it's not a "real backup", but honestly you aren't going to get most people to do a real backup with any consistency. Cloud backup of a documents folder is a useful stopgap.

      This is exactly right. After a little checking, free accounts with Dropbox and Google drive both save old versions (plus pre-deletions) for 30 days by default (provided you have the space) so there is a pretty good hedge against accidental deletion or other corruption. The biggest risk, then, is losing access to your account, or perhaps facing someone with such extreme malice and capability that they take over and delete your account from the service (at which point i suspect it might be near impossible to recover the account AND the files). Backups in the basement (of someone elses house) are always the safest thing, but they are hardly as easy as a cloud service, so for any not-so-dedicated user who is likely to make no backups at all, cloud is the solution.

    4. Re:Cloud != Backup by Voyager529 · · Score: 2

      Augh! A mirrored folder to the cloud is _not_ backup!

      Well, it sorta depends. Some variants do versioning; Acronis does this, and I think Carbonite does, too.

      This is the same story as RAID drives. That's adding redundancy/resiliency. In the event of a failure of your local drive, yes, there's a second copy elsewhere. But in the event of "oops, I accidentally deleted a file I wanted to keep" you're out of luck.

      This is also true. However, the underlying point here is that there are different means of accounting for different kinds of failures. A RAID-1 means that you're screwed if you hit the 'delete' button, but a disk failure won't bit-bucket everything on the drive. Cloud syncing with a provider that enables versioning means that you can go back and fix an 'oops', but very few of them are going to give enough storage to do a multiversion backup of even a healthy-sized My Pictures folder without being expensive to the point that it's more cost effective to buy a Western Digital My Book World Edition or similar.

      Personally, I use BitTorrent Sync to go to my FreeNAS box, which has 30 days worth of snapshots on the dataset containing the folders I sync, itself on a RAID-6. It's great, it's simple, it's free, it's fast on my LAN, it stores in real-time, and the storage on the NAS dwarfs that of my laptop.

    5. Re:Cloud != Backup by tibit · · Score: 1

      Because, of course, all cloud storage is non-versioned. Yeah, right.

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    6. Re:Cloud != Backup by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Well no, not unless the "cloud" storage provider allows you to restore deleted files, or old versions of files. Dropbox does, for example.

    7. Re:Cloud != Backup by fermion · · Score: 1
      This is obviously advice for MS Windows, so a mirrored backup may be all that many people can deal with. However, I agree that if one has a way of doing continuous incremental backup, it does provide value. There seem to be a lot of cloud backup services that do incremental. But a simple mirror certainly will not do this.

      My concern is the lack of whole system backup as part of the plan. This is clearly a MS Windows issue as MS does not seem to like to give consumer end users carte blanche to restore the system. However, as been mentioned, this is the easiest way to deal with some very horrible problems.

      I would invest in something like Acronis and a terabyte hard drives. Backup the whole machine every few days. Incremental backup daily.

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    8. Re:Cloud != Backup by Nemyst · · Score: 2

      Um, the vast majority of cloud backup services are versioned, which invalidates your entire point. As much as slashdotters love to bash on basically any tech that's appeared since 1997 (and even some well before that), there are some intelligent and competent people working on these new technologies and they have indeed thought about problems like those. I know, how bewildering!

    9. Re:Cloud != Backup by Chewbacon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Dropbox and even BitTorrent sync has versioning support. Better than nothing.

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    10. Re: Cloud != Backup by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

      Dropbox previous versions do not count against your space allocation.

    11. Re:Cloud != Backup by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      it's free

      Absolutely not, unless you know someone who can give you the hardware for your FreeNAS box. If you have an extra computer laying around, chances are it doesn't have what you'd need for one. I recently looked into what would be required to setup a FreeNAS box, but I don't have the available funds to build a decent one. I have an old computer using rsync to avoid catastrophic hdd failure, but the hardware is all too old for FreeNAS.

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    12. Re: Cloud != Backup by multimediavt · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It does in the short term. Most of the cloud services let you recover/undelete a file for up to 30 days.

      You're right that it's not a "real backup", but honestly you aren't going to get most people to do a real backup with any consistency. Cloud backup of a documents folder is a useful stopgap.

      No, it's not and please, for the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, stop telling people to put their data in someone else's hands! It's not like money where it is insured at a bank. This is your data and you need to learn how to keep it safe. Unfortunately, data security is part of owning a compute device. It always has been, but we now have some glaring examples of why this is true. New users need to learn this and learn good data security practices and placing files in the cloud is NOT good data security for anyone! Dammit!

    13. Re: Cloud != Backup by houghi · · Score: 1

      Learn them how to do a restore first. Backups are useless and a waste of time if you do not know how to restore.
      When looking for a backup system, look at the restore part first and go from there. Because restoring is the goal, backing up is (only) the means.

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    14. Re: Cloud != Backup by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Many also allow you to do a "delete this file and all old versions". Many also allow you to mount the cloud space as a local drive. Some may present past versions as shadow copies.

      The more features a cloud-sync service has, the worse it will tend to be for backing up. Use a cloud backup system if you want to, but dont confuse backup and syncing. Rsync is not a backup, RAID 1 is not a backup, why would anyone assume "cloud mirror" is a backup?

    15. Re:Cloud != Backup by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Bittorrent Sync appears to do basically what "Live Mesh" used to do before it was canned. Is that correct? What is the performance hit? How well does it handle conflicts?

    16. Re: Cloud != Backup by James+McGuigan · · Score: 2

      There are two aspects to data security. The first is can anybody else gain access to make a copy. The NSA probably has backdoor access to Dropbox, as anybody who can guess your username and password (just like an open ssh server). So having a strong unique password is important (just like for your email account). Anything really important (like my bitcoin wallet) is encrypted locally with a strong password before being mirrored to Dropbox, but otherwise I don't believe the NSA would be a threat to my personal safety even if they did know the contents of my filesystem.

      Dropbox acts as a real-time offsite backup. The security here is that if I lose my laptop (and local backup disks), then worst case I can simply buy a new laptop, download all my personal documents from Dropbox and start working again on the same file I was working on just before my laptop disappeared, with minimal lost work assuming I am connected to the internet (a local backup will miss all work since the last backup). Its worth having an occasional local backup solution as well, such as an Apple Time Machine, as a backup for the backup.

      Dropbox also guards against file corruption. Usually this takes the form of "opps, I didn't mean to delete/overwrite that file". These will usually occur to files I am actively working on and the previous desired version of the file may have been written only minutes/hours ago. This includes programming files that have got yet been committed to version control. A daily backup won't help here, but Dropbox will (I just need to login to the website and click undelete or previous version).

      So in short, Dropbox is a very convenient real-time offsite backup that can protect against both catastrophic data loss and individual file corruption. It even doubles as a basic automatic version control system for your filesystem. The bet is that that I won't lose my laptop at the same time the Dropbox servers suffer catastrophic data loss as I can always reupload my data if Dropbox loses all its data. The security risk is that you are potentially exposing your data to Dropbox, the NSA and anybody who can successfully guess your username/password.

    17. Re:Cloud != Backup by csdarknightcs · · Score: 1

      Usually, when a relative says "oops, I accidentally deleted a file I wanted to keep", I just tell them to open the Recycle Bin and restore it back.

    18. Re:Cloud != Backup by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      The difference between Live Mesh and BT Sync is that Sync is decentralized; stuff isn't stored on a hard disk that isn't yours. I find the performance hit to be difficult to measure, unless you intentionally tell it to do so (you can force it to high disk priority, which is helpful for the first sync on a LAN).

      As far as conflicts go, I tend to use it in a somewhat conservative way - I always make the initial sync involve a blank folder; I've never synced two folders that are both pre-populated for the very reason you specify. To me, it's always made more sense to manually weed out the differences, since it will be more likely that I will be able to deduce the 'correct' version than not. Additionally, BT Sync gives both a read-only folder key and a read/write. By giving my NAS the read-only key, I'll never be wrong. Finally, BT Sync has a special folder where deleted files go, so 'oops' moments can be restored somewhat easily on either end.

    19. Re:Cloud != Backup by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      it's free

      Absolutely not, unless you know someone who can give you the hardware for your FreeNAS box. If you have an extra computer laying around, chances are it doesn't have what you'd need for one. I recently looked into what would be required to setup a FreeNAS box, but I don't have the available funds to build a decent one. I have an old computer using rsync to avoid catastrophic hdd failure, but the hardware is all too old for FreeNAS.

      A set of fair points. Allow me to clarify:

      1.) The BitTorrent Sync software is freeware; I pay neither for a license nor any monthly fee. While you're obviously correct with the hardware aspect of it (more on that in a bit), the nice part is that the client is available for plenty of different operating systems, so the odds of it running on /something/ that's around is helpful. For example, the 'Old XP desktop" that is still lying around can be used for this purpose in conjunction with an external hard disk that would have been purchased for backup purposes anyway. I'm not necessarily saying that having a FreeNAS is the correct solution for everyone, but BT Sync works as a solution for everyone that has a second computer that can act as a storage hub, regardless of OS.

      2.) On the heels of point 1, the hardware lying around can do the syncing, which was more what I was getting at. A FreeNAS is the hardware that I personally "have lying around", which clearly isn't everyone's situation. However, though Black Friday deals and an AMD CPU and DVD drive I had lying around, I built a FreeNAS with all the other required parts (PSU, MOBO, 16GB of ECC RAM, 5x3TB HDD's, case, assorted cables, cheap GPU) for $950 that gives me 8TBytes of storage on a RAID-6. Is it at the level of an Equalogic or EMC solution? Certainly not. Is it affordable for someone who needs 8 real-world terabytes of storage? I've had a rough time finding something less expensive; the price can be brought down even more if less space was needed or if more parts could be re-used.

      3.) FreeNAS itself is getting a bit big, I'll admit. ZFS has always been worse than Windows and Adobe combined in its ability to very effectively eat up whatever RAM is availed to it. Nas4Free (the more-open-source fork of FreeNAS after iXsystems bought them) is a bit better at hardware usage efficiency, but if you're using older hardware, you may find yourself better off not using ZFS. Conversely, the (1GB RAM)/(1TB Storage) rule isn't atrocious to hit if you're doing, say, a simple 3TB RAID-1 with a pair of drives and a motherboard that can support DDR2 RAM. Nas4Free uses about the same amount of RAM because it's also using ZFS, but it's going to give you slightly better throughput rates for older hardware. Similarly, a less powerful CPU is perfectly fine if you're okay with leaving compression off; I used a $35 Sempron processor in my old one flawlessly, albeit with ~55MBytes/sec over a gigabit LAN because I had compression on and was pegging the CPU during transfers.

      4.) If you're doing a simple rsync on your exising setup, BT Sync runs on both Linux and BSD, and it uses a CLI/json config file / web GUI, so you can run it on your system even if it's a CLI-only box. Richard Stallman probably wouldn't because it's not FLOSS, but that's a matter of ideology, not what's technologically possible.

    20. Re:Cloud != Backup by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      Augh! A mirrored folder to the cloud is _not_ backup! ....

      Amen! Nothing beats having a physical backup that YOU OWN. I know too many people who trusted the likes of carbonite and others and when push came to shove, it wasn't there. Sure, they had excuses like when she finally got her laptop back their retention time had expired so they automatically deleted it. Even though she was still paying for it. I also don't trust the cloud. Could be one big NSA scheme to get everyone to upload their stuff willingly. Encrypted, safe.... Yea, sure bud! I suppose it could be the ultimate trojan horse. Let it in, it'll do no harm. Then you get sacked.

      Mine is in a commercial safe on big usb physical disks. S&G lock. Used to be a crypto safe for the Navy. They won't get to it without me knowing. I haven't lost anything in over 25 years. I regularly back up the other machines in my house too. The Macs are wonderful for that. So easy a cave man could do it. Much easier to deal with than the POS windows machine.

    21. Re: Cloud != Backup by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1

      It does in the short term. Most of the cloud services let you recover/undelete a file for up to 30 days.

      You're right that it's not a "real backup", but honestly you aren't going to get most people to do a real backup with any consistency. Cloud backup of a documents folder is a useful stopgap.

      Yes, Dropbox is better than nothing, and very good for sync, but you can set up proper backup software in a fire-and-forget configuration with no interaction needed at all. I use Crashplan and am happy with it, there are many others. If you help relatives and need to do point-in-time recovery for some reason, you'll thank me :)

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  9. #1 Should Be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #1 should be "Install Linux". But it isn't.

    The cloud? Again?? How about a local backup, you know, that doesn't require you to upload everything you have to some unknown host?

    You shouldn't use an Admin account on Windows as your normal account. Use a limited account and type in the admin user/pass when necessary.

    Mysterious problems? That's called malware.

    Arrgghhh!

    1. Re:#1 Should Be by timmyf2371 · · Score: 1

      The cloud? Again?? How about a local backup, you know, that doesn't require you to upload everything you have to some unknown host? /quote.

      I hear local backups aren't very resilient when your house burns down or gets burglarized.

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    2. Re:#1 Should Be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear local backups aren't very resilient when your house burns down or gets burglarized.

      I hear the cloud isn't very secure even if your house doesn't burn down and doesn't get burglarized.

    3. Re:#1 Should Be by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 1

      Mysterious problems? That's called malware.

      Yeah, because there has never been perfectly legitimate, non malware, driver / explorer shell extensions that misbehaved... ever.

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  10. 0) Install Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like my list better

    1. Re:0) Install Linux by PPH · · Score: 1

      Running only a terminal session.

      Then I never have to worry about loaning my machine to anyone, guest accounts or whatever.

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      Have gnu, will travel.
  11. Or Windows RT by recoiledsnake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they may need Office... a Windows RT machine is pretty good too and requires the same low level of support as iPad or Chromebook.

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    1. Re:Or Windows RT by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know why this is marked as flamebait. I have a Surface 2 (they dropped RT from the official name), and I have to say that I love it. Even as a programmer. It's the only tablet that supports SD cards and dropping to a bringing up a command prompt (cmd/powershell) out of the box. The browser is capable enough that you don't need website apps that basically mirror website functionality. There is a lack of apps, but that's probably my only complaint. Also, from a development point of view, I'm working on my first app, and I have to say that I enjoy the experience much more than my experiences with Android or IOS.

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    2. Re:Or Windows RT by zlives · · Score: 1

      i agree mostly, except after the firmware update any cold boot requires me to type in the 25 pin bitlocker key... not fun. MS has acknowledge the "bug" but no fixes yet...

    3. Re:Or Windows RT by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      I don't use bitlocker, So I haven't experienced that problem. I'm not sure what the alternative is though. Definitely can't have the system storing the key on the permanent storage. Isn't that the whole point of bitlocker? Accessing the data requires entering the password.

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    4. Re:Or Windows RT by zlives · · Score: 1

      unfortunately in 8.1 it is on by default if you use your ms account to set it up. my understanding is that since in surface2 bitlocker has a limited functionality and is susceptible to hacks ms pushed out the update to force recoverykey after a cold boot. also there is no way to turn off bitlocker in 8.1, if you don't care to implement this feature. annnnd there is no pin or password feature so you have to type in the entire 25 character randomly generated recovery key everytime...

    5. Re:Or Windows RT by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Don't have this experience at all. Running win 8.1 on my Surface 2. I do have a 4 digit pin set up for minimal security, and that's all that's required for me to access my tablet, even after a full reboot. I didn't enable Bitlocker, so I have no idea if it's using it by default or not.

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    6. Re:Or Windows RT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the only tablet that supports SD cards and dropping to a bringing up a command prompt (cmd/powershell) out of the box.

      Dropping it brings up a command prompt? What a weird feature, I'll have to try that the next time I see Surface... ... I was just trying to bring up the command prompt. Watch this

    7. Re:Or Windows RT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody "needs" office. I have yet to find one person that had a real compelling reason why they needed Microsoft Office.

    8. Re:Or Windows RT by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      You sure its a bug? AFAIK doing anything that tinkers with boot devices will cause bitlocker to freak out and assume its being attacked.

    9. Re:Or Windows RT by zlives · · Score: 1

      the mistake i made was to do the initial setup using a microsoft live id for my wife (her machine). apparently if you do that bitlocker works this way.

    10. Re:Or Windows RT by zlives · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Or Windows RT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you have all the bullshit of windows. But without the billions of already existing windows apps being able to work.

      That.... that is a stupid decision.

      Only a complete moron would choose RT. Or... a shill.

    12. Re:Or Windows RT by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      Even as a programmer. It's the only tablet that supports SD cards and dropping to a bringing up a command prompt (cmd/powershell) out of the box.

      Oddly enough, even as a programmer, that's why I'm enjoying my iPad. Probably due to the fact that it can't bring up a command prompt, to this date I haven't needed to. The browser works fine, and there are plenty of apps too.

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    13. Re:Or Windows RT by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Well, to be honest the command prompt is not something I'd use daily, but I did find use it once or twice. it's just nice to know its there if I need it. Some things simply cannot be easily accomplished with a GUI. Especially when it has a real file system. Also the full USB and HDMI are also great features.

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  12. Suggestions and options. by Bomarc · · Score: 0

    (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.

    If you don't have antivirus, you shouldn't have a computer. Note that AVG works fine.

    (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups.

    Ever hear of a USB hard drive? Get two, and rotate them; placing one in a safe-deposit box. Use "Windows Backup" ... and create an emergency boot disk; keep it in the safe-deposit box.

    (3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer.

    That way a hacker can have another means to get into your system!

    (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently.

    ... or use "Windows Update" (presumption you have Windows installed) ... it automatically creates a System Restore point.

    1. Re:Suggestions and options. by mlts · · Score: 1

      Very good points. My few additions:

      #1: MSE or Windows Defender that comes with Windows 8 and newer. AV doesn't catch much anyway, other than Malwarebytes which blocks by IP, something no other products do. In addition, use a browser (Chrome, Opera, Firefox) that has AdBlock. By blocking the malicious sites, that is dealing with most of the infection vectors right there. SpywareBlaster is another nice tool which installs killbits, restrictions, and blacklists cookies.

      #2: The cloud can easily kill data as a HDD. I've had a sync error blow away all my Dropbox files. So, having an external drive for backups is important.

      #3: This is a wise thing to do, although going with the separate account is keeping it disabled until it is needed.

      #4: System restore is bullshit. I've yet to see it actually be of any use against malware. Even against trashed drivers, it is iffish at best.

      Previous Versions on documents functionality can be useful, but trying to "restore" the OS using System Restore may bring more pain than it cures. Instead, one should use a backup program that can do image backups, and dump to an external hard disk, switching them out every so often. That way, if one is certain malware stung them at a point of time, they can boot OS media, format the system drives, reload from the stored backup image, or even more secure, format, reload the machine from known good media, reload apps, then recopy the documents. That way, if malware did infect the backup media, the damage is mitigated.

      Of course, for crucial documents, backing them up to CD-R, DVD+R, or BD+R is a good thing since once the media is finalized, it will be extremely difficult for malware to tamper with a burned copy.

      As for cloud storage, it is just another piece of media, like tape, CDs, or USB flash drives. Each has their good points, each has their disadvantages. A good backup procedure uses different media types. A good compromise might be copying files to a TrueCrypt container on a Dropbox partition.

    2. Re: Suggestions and options. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be a moron. You can't author viruses on a machine that has an AV on it. The frickin thing keeps deleting the payload.

    3. Re:Suggestions and options. by fisted · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you don't have antivirus, you shouldn't have a computer.

      Someone above said:

      Editors, please stop pandering to the lowest common denominator end user who will never read Slashdot anyhow

      Now here's living proof that there /are/ such people on slashdot after all, seeing this one even thinks Windows and computers are someone the same.

    4. Re:Suggestions and options. by isorox · · Score: 1

      (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.

      If you don't have antivirus, you shouldn't have a computer. Note that AVG works fine.

      Which "antivirus" (when was the last time you saw a virus) product should I install on my Mac mini, macbook, ubuntu T410, android phone, ipad, raspberry pi, and mikrotik routers?

    5. Re:Suggestions and options. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which "antivirus" (when was the last time you saw a virus) product should I install on my Mac mini, macbook, ubuntu T410, android phone, ipad, raspberry pi, and mikrotik routers?

      the garbage can?

    6. Re:Suggestions and options. by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      If you don't have antivirus, you shouldn't have a computer. Note that AVG works fine.

      All major brands of AV eventually become bloated pigs that manage to bring your system to it's knees while also not being able to detect viruses. ESET is by far the worst in my experience. I literally am unable to work on my laptop while this pile of puke is thrashing my hard drive for about 25% of my day. I literally have my laptop running about 23 hours a day, and it spends about 6 hours a day running the virus scan (300 GB drive about 2/3 full). ESET is required by my work so I am stuck with it.
      I found the free AVs to be better than the commercial ones, but even the free ones eventually become bloated pigs. I've given up on AVG. I am reasonably satisfied with Avast, but I'm sure it will become a pig in the next couple of years and will have to be replaced.

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    7. Re:Suggestions and options. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #1: MSE or Windows Defender that comes with Windows 8 and newer.

      MSE? Really? Have a look at this

    8. Re:Suggestions and options. by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Every year or so I make a forensic copy of my Windows machine's HDD and use F-prot to scan it on an air-gapped clean scratch system. It always comes up clean. It is possible to use Windows without any active AV and still not get infected. It'll be a sad day if ever universal active antivirus becomes mandatory as suggested by GP.

  13. Create a non-administrative account for yourself ! by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Create a non-administrative account for yourself, not just your guests. You are a security problem too.

  14. AV Default by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

    So what is the default solution for free (or paid) AV software these days?

    1. Re:AV Default by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Kaspersky or if *ix Clam

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    2. Re:AV Default by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      So what is the default solution for free (or paid) AV software these days?

      Microsoft Security Essentials for the free stuff - I'd like AVG or Avast or Avira more if they weren't the Overly Attached Girlfriend of software.

      ESET's NOD32 for the paid variety. It doesn't nag, it doesn't go nuts on your CPU or RAM, and it's very accurate.

    3. Re:AV Default by CSMoran · · Score: 1

      So what is the default solution for free (or paid) AV software these days?

      Microsoft security essentials for the free one.

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  15. Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Funny

    All four tips boil down to "don't be an idiot", and not one of them is specific to a "new laptop". Here are my equally-insightful tips:

    • Don't take your laptop to the beach. It might seem like a great idea, but direct sunlight can be hazardous to your computer's health.
    • Remove the stickers from the keyboard bezel. You can give them to small children, who will be thrilled with the colorful logos, and then your laptop won't be messy when they fall off in a few years.
    • Don't use your laptop as an ersatz Frisbee. Again, the big danger here is that your laptop could be exposed to too much direct sunlight. Also, being heavier than most flying toys, your laptop could cause injury to your friends.
    • Don't use your laptop's fan as a bellows. While it may seem like a lot of air is coming out of your laptop's vents, the fans inside just can't handle the stress of being used as any kind of air compressor .
    • Even if you think you don't need it, be sure to buy a power cord if your laptop doesn't come with one. Your new laptop is a marvel of technology, but it's likely not very well-trained. You'll need to use the power cord as a leash to prevent it from embarking on a murderous rampage through your house.
    • Finally, be aware that your chiclet keyboard is not actually made of Chiclets. I say "be aware", because if you actually try to eat your keys, you may cause damage to your new laptop.
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    1. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Pro-Tip - don't be a condescending asshole.

    2. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pro-Tip - don't be a condescending asshole.

      But then who would make slashdot posts?

    3. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remove the stickers from the keyboard bezel

      This brings up an old rule of thumb I use: the more advertising stickers left on the computer, the less thorough (and caring) the computer user, and hence the less thorough (and caring) you need to be in fixing the computer.

    4. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by fisted · · Score: 1

      I always wondered what's the point of such stickers at all. My laptop had multiple, and one particularly big-ass sticker which would basically list the entire "spec" of the machine.

      I think the only people benefiting from those stickers are thieves...

    5. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      * Finally, be aware that your chiclet keyboard is not actually made of Chiclets. I say "be aware", because if you actually try to eat your keys, you may cause damage to your new laptop.

      The main problem is that when you remove the keys to eat them, it lets too much sunlight into the internals of the laptop and this is, of course, damaging.

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    6. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> I always wondered what's the point of such stickers at all.

      They have all the same benefits of bumper stickers and tattoos.

    7. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Pro-Tip - don't be a condescending asshole.

      But then who would make slashdot posts?

      The usual idiots?

    8. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by tompaulco · · Score: 2

      Finally, be aware that your chiclet keyboard is not actually made of Chiclets [wikipedia.org]. I say "be aware", because if you actually try to eat your keys, you may cause damage to your new laptop.

      I've seen a few of these chiclet keyboards. Apparently they are the new fad. I guess I was just 30 years ahead of my time because my TRS-80 had chiclet keys and i thought it was awesome, but everybody looked down their noses at me.

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    9. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by houghi · · Score: 0

      Pro-Tip - don't be a condescending asshole.

      But then who would make slashdot posts?

      People who are better then you are, like myself, you ignorant twat.

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    10. Re:Pro tip: Don't be an idiot by fisted · · Score: 1

      Prople who are better then you are, like myself, you ignorant twat.

      FTFY

  16. woah, there Nellie. by Dzimas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm. Malwarebytes is a *removal* tool that doesn't offer real-time virus scanning. It's only useful after the machine is infected. It scares me when a "how-to" post has only 4 points, and one of them is so blisteringly wrong that it makes you suspect the OP doesn't actually know how to drive a computer.

    1. Re:woah, there Nellie. by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 1

      Also, AVG has become bloated in recent years and wants more and more attention from the user.

    2. Re:woah, there Nellie. by beatle42 · · Score: 1

      If you get the Pro version it has realtime protection, but that's not free.

    3. Re:woah, there Nellie. by robinsonne · · Score: 1

      I believe their "Premium" paid version does provide some real-time scanning. Having never used it, I don't know how useful it is beyond it's removal tool capabilities.

    4. Re:woah, there Nellie. by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Yes, and that's a Good Thing. Real-time virus scanning is an active menace to anyone who actually uses their computer to do anything intensive. It causes no end of unnecessary trouble on my development machine at work, and I flat out won't allow it to be installed on my system at home.

    5. Re:woah, there Nellie. by multimediavt · · Score: 1

      Umm. Malwarebytes is a *removal* tool that doesn't offer real-time virus scanning. It's only useful after the machine is infected. It scares me when a "how-to" post has only 4 points, and one of them is so blisteringly wrong that it makes you suspect the OP doesn't actually know how to drive a computer.

      You thought only one of the four was wrong?!?!

    6. Re:woah, there Nellie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are wrong. I resell MB Pro, SMB and Enterprise. It's really rather effective at real time blocking. It's overhead is very low indeed. It is actually a better product when running real time than anything similar I have tried (not surprisingly as it is a very good as a cleanup util too, but prevention is better than a cure, right?)

      As the authors state, it should be used in conjunction with a virus scanner. People lose sight of the fact that most issues are not viruses by definition, they are simply naughty programs.

      IMHO - You need to layer your protection and you should spend money on at least one of those layers. MalwareBytes and Webroot have my votes for management and lightweight.

      Still, it's a rootkit by another name. You'd be better off living your daily life in a non-permanent VM.

    7. Re:woah, there Nellie. by csdarknightcs · · Score: 1

      You are referring to the paid version, the article was referring to the "free" version. Dzimas is correct.

  17. My Personal Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1) If you buy a new Win 8 laptop, immediately replace with your favorite Linux flavor. Don't even bother with dual boot.

    2) If you are unfamiliar with Linux or how to install it, then buy a Mac.

    3) Don't ask me for Win 8 support. I don't know. I don't want to know. Windows 8 is dead to me :)

    1. Re:My Personal Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Windows 8 is dead to me :)

      Can you help me with Vista?

    2. Re:My Personal Tip by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      3) Don't ask me for Win 8 support. I don't know. I don't want to know. Windows 8 is dead to me :)

      My Windows 98 box has been really slow and wont let me download games. Someone said I need to clear my temporary internet files but, I was afraid I would lose all my porn if I did that, since that is where it always downloads to

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    3. Re:My Personal Tip by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      My suggestion too. But make sure that laptop runs linux before buying it (and don't get bricked like some samsung laptops, you are at risk even using only windows). And check that the hardware is supported even if you install Linux on it, some vendors don't (at least the local Samsung representative here don't give support/replace defective ones if you install something else).

      And remember, all the antivirus that you put on it won't stop the backdoors that the NSA is installing on them. Installing Linux (reinstalling it if is one of the cases that come preinstalled) is a must if you care at all about your privacy or your data.

    4. Re:My Personal Tip by NIK282000 · · Score: 1

      Because MS will clearly release Windows 9 as a clone of XP and all the Windows 8 knowledge you have ignored wont matter. No wait, they will continue to update like usual and in a few releases you will be woefully behind the industry standard.

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    5. Re:My Personal Tip by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Idle curiosity... I'm in the market for a new notebook... Do any distros support the "2-in-1'" (laptop/tablet) convertible ultrabooks?

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    6. Re:My Personal Tip by Shagg · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping that Windows 8 knowledge will prove to be as useful as Microsoft Bob knowledge.

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    7. Re:My Personal Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) If you buy a new Win 8 laptop, immediately replace with your favorite Linux flavor. Don't even bother with dual boot.

      2) If you are unfamiliar with Linux or how to install it, then buy a Mac.

      3) Don't ask me for Win 8 support. I don't know. I don't want to know. Windows 8 is dead to me :)

      3a) Don't ask me for Linux support.

      3b) Don't ask me for OS X support.

    8. Re:My Personal Tip by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      I dont think theres an OS out there thats so annoying Id pay an extra $1000 just to get OSX.

    9. Re:My Personal Tip by Draconix · · Score: 1

      Funny thing, I got a new laptop on Black Friday and made a recovery flash drive of Windows 8, then wiped the HD and installed Ubuntu on it. I installed a bigger HD and decided I'd put a Win 8 partition on it just in case... but the damn recovery media couldn't find the factory image that was on the flash drive! Spent 2 hours trying to figure out how to get it to work, gave up and installed Ubuntu on the new drive. Works perfectly, and makes better use of the touchscreen than Windows 8 did.

      Win 8 is a damn mess I keep running into issue after issue with. It makes my job (fixing PCs) a lot harder, and most people I've met would even rather use Vista than Windows 8.

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  18. Shove your data into the cloud by silas_moeckel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unencypted personal data should never be stored in the cloud. If you need a revision control system use one, If you need backups use one. Neither is particularly hard, hell windows built in backup works pretty well. But encrypt anything leaving your possession (not a bad idea for stuff not leaving your possession either) but basic bits like bios HD passwords work pretty well without any performance penalty.

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  19. "If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus..." by Arduenn6058 · · Score: 2

    (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one.

    Or, if you don't want to use an anit-virus program, at least use a Netbook/Chromebook/GNU Linux/OS X?

  20. This is what slashdot has come to ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to find another site to read. Long time lurker of this "news for nerds site" sad day today.

  21. Did I just stumble onto ZDNet? by Xpilot · · Score: 2

    This isn't even a thorough article. Slashdot has jumped the shark so bad since the last time I was here.

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    1. Re:Did I just stumble onto ZDNet? by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      Ever since Dice got their dick in Slashdot, its gone down the crapper.. I keep asking myself why I still come back here.. Force of habit I guess..

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  22. Piffle... by koan · · Score: 1

    "(1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, at least install a free one."
    Never had a positive, other than the EICAR file I tested the damn things with, but sure, go ahead.

    "(2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups. "
    Don't use the cloud if your data is important, use 2 external drives, one mirroring the other.

    "(3) Create a non-administrator guest account, in case a friend needs to borrow the computer."
    Never, ever, let anyone else use your computer, phone or other device, if you can't figure out why...

    "(4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose recently."
    When I see system restore I think Windows, if you need Windows run it as a virtual machine, for the rest of that know what we are doing system restore is turned off.

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    1. Re:Piffle... by iamnotasmurf · · Score: 0

      Let me extend 3 with - (3.1) NEVER EVER CONNECT TO YOUR WORK NETWORK FROM YOUR PERSONAL INTERNET CONNECTION (3.2) NEVER EVER USE A PASSWORD IN WORK THAT IS USED FOR SOME ASPECT OF YOUR PERSONAL LIFE. As regards to (4) Windows 7 (not sure about others and I certainly won't say otherwise) has a handy option that if you delete a file you can restore it to an older version despite specifically remembering that I did not turn on windows backup. The IT guy in work who i'm referring to in points 3.1 and 3.2 said that they developed that option...what a wanker HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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    2. Re:Piffle... by operagost · · Score: 1

      "(2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups. "
      Don't use the cloud if your data is important, use 2 external drives, one mirroring the other.

      And store them with Iron Mountain? What happens if your house is robbed? Destroyed by fire?

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    3. Re:Piffle... by fisted · · Score: 1

      i ssh to work all the time

    4. Re:Piffle... by koan · · Score: 0

      You lose your data.

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    5. Re:Piffle... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      So what do you do when work calls you at 1 AM? Drive to work?

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  23. Is today opposite day? by General+Anders · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This reminds me of a computer tip that a non-computer savvy person will tell their non-computer savvy friends, who then end up calling tech support for a product that doesn't support their home setup, and then the person on the other end has to explain how real-life works (me). 1. Don't rely on an anti-virus program. Your primary defense is a. not being stupid (which is doing things like visiting pron sites, sites with tons of popups, etc), install noscript, and if you must, periodically install anti-virus and run a full scan. 2. Cloud isn't a backup. If you want a backup, spend a little bit of effort. If your stuff is important, back it up yourself. Use your brain and use redundancy if it's actually important to you. 3. Don't let pesky friends use your computer, especially unsupervised. You don't know what kind of sites they are going to visit and what malware they are going to install. 4. Never use system restore. Just backup your stuff, don't install malware (or "Free" programs that want to install themselves with your real programs) and don't follow horrible tips on slashdot (which I would have expected more of)

    1. Re:Is today opposite day? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      The sad thing is, half the comments on this site are saying how obvious this advice is, and the other half are saying how obviously bad it is. Sigh.

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    2. Re:Is today opposite day? by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

      Almost like the world is analog, and there are multiple ways to implement "solutions" to poential "problems".

      What you're missing is the intersection of the comments, which is "Bennett == Hack".

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    3. Re:Is today opposite day? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      The intersection of all comments on slashdot is, "X == Hack"

      Or perhaps, "X is worse than me."

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    4. Re:Is today opposite day? by dyingtolive · · Score: 1

      But if X is not worse than me, then I'm not as awesome as my mom says I am!

      Seriously though, I don't have to be awesome to realize that advice given is pretty weak for what people here SHOULD be capable of. I also don't go around throwing out multi-paragraph blog posts on Slashdot because I realize that, completely unsolicited, I don't have anything that worthwhile to say.

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    5. Re:Is today opposite day? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      because I realize that, completely unsolicited, I don't have anything that worthwhile to say.

      You probably do, if you've been working 8 hours a day for the past several years, then you've probably increased your skill enough that you have knowledge that is quite insightful in ways that other people haven't thought about.

      Dig deep, you probably have something in there.

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  24. Better sync/backup by gaspyy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, syncing to cloud is not backup. Second, being at the mercy of a provider doesn't strike me as a good idea in long-term.

    Better invest in a NAS. A 2-bay Synology would suffice. 2 4TB drives in Mirrored Raid work great. WD has the "red" line of drives specifically made and tested for NAS storage. They are not as fast but run cool, silent, no vibrations.

    Most NAS units run on linux so you can easily add syncing, versioning, "personal cloud", maybe use to play movies on smart TVs via DLNA and so on.

    Finally, from time to time do proper backups. For home use, proper backup means burning data on DVD/BD - on 2 separate discs.

    1. Re:Better sync/backup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The distinctions between red/green/black/whatever/enterprise hard disk drives are complete crock and you know it. The only real differences are spindle speed (5400 vs 7200 rpm) but even that is starting to become really irrelevant because with current data densities, 5400 rpm is fast enough to provide well beyond 100 MB/s read and write speeds. The other one is how long the drive is going to keep retrying when it encounters a bad sector. Drives "optimized" for RAID give up after a few seconds. Oh and warranty, which is NO indicator of how long the drive is actually going to last. The manufacturer simply calculates the probable cost of returns under a longer warranty into the price of the enterprise variant. It's basic mathematics. Drives all die with pretty much the same annual probability.

      Anything other than these two things is simply wishful thinkment.

  25. What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Excuse the language and the caps, but... SERIOUSLY? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS DOING ON SLASHDOT?

    Is this site called "News For Nerds, Stuff that Matters" or "Site that links to trivial shitadvice you sent to your computer-illiterate parents if you do not want to talk to them yourself about it?"

    What was the person who submitted this thinking? What was the editor who put it here was thinking? Are we getting trolled by one or the two? A lot of questions we will not find an answer to, simply because it does not exist. Slashdot, are we ending the year with a total low, are we?

    1. Re:What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      since most of us use real operating systems instead of Bill G's program loader we don't keep up with what the best practices for a non-tech windows user would be

      so quit your whining

    2. Re:What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't remember the number, but the majority of Slashdot runs Windows.

    3. Re:What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what is real operating system? and does the NSA has a hand in it without me knowing about it ?

    4. Re:What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      a real operating system fully manages the resources of the computer, protects one program from the actions of another, comes complete with utilities for backups/archives/troubleshooting/monitoring.

      Examples of real operating systems would be FreeBSD, GNU/LInux, OpenVMS, Z/OS or Z/VM, MP, IBM i, MPE/ix

    5. Re:What. The. Fuck. Is this doing on slashdot? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      the NSA has indeed compromised certain cryptographic algorithms used in some operating systems, but you can read slashdot article on which ones were compromised.

  26. Knew the poster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw this article, realized it was not for the target audience of the blog, then realized it must be a timothy post, and lo it was. Dude keeps his rep sparkling.

  27. Good thinking there. by Minwee · · Score: 1

    (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, or even if you do, immediately delete, destroy and cleanse with fire all pre-installed 'security' software. After you have finished that, use an angle grinder to finish the job, as this stuff can be particularly difficult to remove.

    (2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless access by law enforcement and law violation agencies. Be sure to include all of your account names and passwords in a file called "yellow-sticky-note-on-the-monitor.txt" for the convenience of everyone who trawls through your gooskybox.

    (3) Create a non-administrator account, in case you want to use your computer without blowing it up. The convenience of not having to authorize system changes isn't worth the damage you could do.

    (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of fixing mysterious problems that arose when you ignored rule three. If you ignored rule one I can't help you, you're on your own.

    1. Re:Good thinking there. by tibit · · Score: 1

      Here's what I do when I get a new machine from retail: I immediately reinstall a matching clean copy of Windows - from Microsoft images, without any crapware. It takes way less time than dealing with preinstalled crap. Most of the time, with Windows 7 and 8, the drivers just magically install themselves.

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    2. Re:Good thinking there. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I immediately reinstall a matching clean copy of Windows - from Microsoft images

      Where do you get the images?

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    3. Re:Good thinking there. by Minwee · · Score: 1

      Where do you get the images?

      From Microsoft.

    4. Re:Good thinking there. by tibit · · Score: 1

      I concur, that is one source. I've also got a retail copy of Win 8. Win 8 has all the magic needed to reactivate itself if the computer was OEM licensed for it. For Win 7 (and previously XP), you need to restore the OEM files that match the data stored in the BIOS.

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    5. Re:Good thinking there. by ApplePy · · Score: 1

      Most of the time, with Windows 7 and 8, the drivers just magically install themselves.

      That's funny. Not long ago I did a fresh install of Win 7 on a fairly new laptop. There was no driver for the ethernet card. Had to download that on a Linux box and install from a flash drive.

      How is it that in 2013, there are ethernet cards unsupported by Windows? Not to mention numerous other pieces of hardware... ALL of which magically work under any newer Linux distro. Dinosaurs still roamed the earth the last time I had to manually install an ethernet driver on Linux.

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  28. Dangerously retarded shit advice. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "(2) Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups."

    NO. Fuck off already. I never want to hear anyone suggesting/promoting "the cloud" again.

    "The cloud" is newspeak for "somebody else's computer".

    1. Re:Dangerously retarded shit advice. by Ksevio · · Score: 2

      Suggesting people use off site backups is a bad thing now?

  29. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Oh I though this was slashdot. I guess I logged into MSNBC accidentally.

  30. Save files to a folder ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless surveillance by the NSA.

  31. Masking tape over the built-in camera by Compact+Dick · · Score: 1

    Value your privacy.

    1. Re: Masking tape over the built-in camera by Dzimas · · Score: 1

      Actually, I suspect that tapping the mic would yield far more useful intelligence. After all, the camera will simply capture hundreds of hours of your poorly lit head and glazed eyes. The mic, on the other hand, will capture every single conversation in the room.

    2. Re: Masking tape over the built-in camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      check for rogue mencoder processes in the background!

  32. SpiderOak for secure cloud backups by grub · · Score: 1

    My vote goes to SpiderOak for zero-knowledge, dedupe'd backups.

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  33. Mod -1, obsolete by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're buying a laptop for anyone competent, they won't be running Windows on it (or if the do, it's their problem). If you're buying a laptop for anyone incompetent, they shouldn't be running Windows on it. Patching a hopelessly insecure operating system with anti-virus and other bloatware is so twentieth century. Chrome OS is a far better solution for non-technical users.

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  34. a bit more practical list of tips by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

    1 hit ninite.com first thing to get your "Must have tool for X" things (hint avast , 7zip , classic shell and teamviewer are a "good idea"

    2 its a bit techy but WSUSOffline can be used to speed up the process of getting your patches done

    3 adblock plus can be installed on all of FireFox , MSIE and Chrome for very good reasons

    4 before you panic or install something call %tech_friend% to verify things

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  35. WTF by Feadin · · Score: 1

    Why the fuck is this on Slashdot?

  36. Sigh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because "Install a Free operating system" solves all their problems!

    Gawd, you Linux weenies are so irritating!

  37. In EU, you can refuse to pay "Microsoft tax" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In EU, you can refuse to pay "Microsft tax" and get your laptop without OS, even if it's pre-installed on that new laptop of yours.
    Yes, the sales guy will whine and tell you BS stories. They have to remove Microsoft OS, scrape off that licence sticker and you get the price reduced by the cost of crap Microsoft attempted to forcefeed you.

      Done it many times over the years.

    Cheers!

  38. Or... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

    OR do what I did on the new laptop I got for Christmas.. Booted the thing up to make sure it worked, then pulled the original drive out, and slapped a spare drive in and installed Debian Linux.. If perchance the machine gives me the finger some time during the warrantee period, I can pull the Linux drive out and avoid all the "We don't support Linux" crap from support... Actually beginning to like Gnome3 on Debian 7.. Since the machine has 8GB of ram, I went with 64 bit (why would ANYone in 2013 still use a 32 bit OS???), but, unbeknownst to me, the old way of running 32bit apps (ia32-libs) on a 64 bit OS has been replaced on the newer distros with multiarch.. Alas some 32bit apps are not multiarch-aware and makes for a really fun bit of work to get them to play nicely.. Takes me back to the mid 90s with Linux and Xfree86...

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  39. How to reply to requests for tech support by Alain+Williams · · Score: 2

    Fixing that on your PC will take me a couple of hours. The bottom of my garden needs a couple of hours digging. Do we have a deal ?

  40. Better idea by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I just go with my family and friends when they want a new notebook. I check out the software and hardware and I make sure it fits there needs. I always get them to buy good quality computer protection software like Norton 360 and I always tell them to call me before anyone touches the computer for work, such as a futureshop or bestbuy. The biggest single point that I can make or recommend, NEVER buy a notebook from a seller who can't tell you solid hardware details, such as the audio chipset, the rev on the processor or model of the HDD. The reason being if they can't give you the proper stats, they shouldn't be selling notebooks. I also always make sure they buy a backup drive and make sure they setup Norton or any other software to auto backup for them. Basically I just help them get to a steady state and from that point on I just make sure I'm around for repairs or help. Never send someone who doesn't know how to, to buy computer hardware, they will get bullied into buying what they don't need.

    1. Re:Better idea by Lazere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always get them to buy good quality computer protection software like Norton 360

      You lost all credibility with this sentence...

    2. Re:Better idea by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      No I didn't, you know Symantec is certified for corporate and enterprise level security systems. You would have to figure that would come down into the residential products. Compared to products like AVG or Clam, I would pick Norton for the average user 99% of the time. Not to say that AVG and Clam aren't great, but the average user wants to set it up and never look at it again, which is what Norton can give you that AVG and Clam can't.

    3. Re:Better idea by Lazere · · Score: 2

      Symantec's corporate antivirus is atrocious (Ghost is fine, if a bit expensive). Not only is it a resource hog, it can cause problems for months after it's been removed. The consumer version is even worse, the thing is like a virus. For a free antivirus, AVG is pretty damn good as a set and forget bit. However, if you're already recommending they pay for it, Kaspersky, NOD32, and Malwarebytes are all better options than Norton.

    4. Re:Better idea by darnkitten · · Score: 1

      Not to say that AVG and Clam aren't great, but the average user wants to set it up and never look at it again, which is what Norton can give you that AVG and Clam can't.

      Except, of course, that Symantec/Norton will attempt to trick you into manually paying for a subscription renewal, when you are being auto-billed...which is another thing Norton can give you that free AV can't.

    5. Re:Better idea by ApplePy · · Score: 1

      I always get them to buy good quality computer protection software like Norton 360

      That would be the last time I ask your advice... ...hey! Maybe you're smarter than we thought!

      Truth is, people who are not computer whizzes always end up with malware, whether you install an AV or not. It really doesn't matter. I have discovered that setting up anything more than a firewall on such a person's computer is a complete waste of time.

      If you want one, okay, I'll install MSE for you. It's going to do the same amount of good as any AV you pay hundreds of dollars for -- which is zero. None of them protect users from things (attack vectors & such) that they do not know or understand. You're doing good if they follow your advice to not open unknown email attachments.

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    6. Re:Better idea by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call Symantec's products horribly wicked but then again maybe I haven't had your experience with them. Resource hog wise, AVG and Kaspersky are pretty much as bad as they come. After installing Kaspersky on a virtual server and noticing that my virtual CPU was locked at 4.0 ( in top, so 400% load ), I ended up on a conference call for 6+ hours, only to determine that no one had at Kaspersky had any idea what the hell was happening. The solution ended up being that I had to scrap the virtual machine and almost re-image the server, very professional products. As for AVG, well I haven't had any horribly experience with it, resource wise, I've seen it lock many CPU's, never to the point I had to do anything drastic like with Kaspersky but still. If I had my choice I would use Clam AV all the time, it has the best overall resource management. Norton comes in slightly under Clam AV, well Norton has also been observed loading down the CPU, it does it far less and for shorter periods then either AVG or Kaspersky, not the mention the many other crap AV's I've tried.

      Sticking around wise, I don't know what you're talking about. I've never had any problem uninstalling Norton, in fact Kaspersky has the worst "stick around" effect out of all the AV's. Kaspersky has been known to install improper registry keys that cause conflicts. Having to dig through the registry to find the keys that shouldn't be there is a pain in my ass and one I shouldn't have to do. Kaspersky is AV software written by children for morons, it will forever be at the bottom of my list for protection software.

      As for NOD32 and Malwarebytes, there okay, just have never really used them in the past, Norton hasn't given me any reason to switch and at this rate never will.

    7. Re:Better idea by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      I've seen it do that one time and my mother was smart enough to call me and ask. I wouldn't really call it an issue, because even if you manually pay after being auto-billed you can get your money back with no fuss.

    8. Re:Better idea by Murdoch5 · · Score: 1

      It's true that given the course of time they will end up with Malware or Spyware or something that they should of been protected from, but installing AV software will generally in my experience delay that for a good while. I personally would never touch MSE, Microsoft doesn't make security software, they have so many holes and so many bugs in the software that really it's the exact opposite of security. Anyone who is willing to trust Microsoft for security should get the hell out my server room and run, I want security, not broken glass.

    9. Re:Better idea by ApplePy · · Score: 1

      Anyone who is willing to trust Microsoft for security should get the hell out my server room and run

      I dunno about you... but in my server room, we don't trust Microsoft for operating systems, either. Or anything at all. If you're running Windows servers in the enterprise, I'd hope your expertise and security policies are such that you don't need to run any AV software at all. Otherwise, you've got bigger problems than you might imagine.

      Me, I'm just talking about the occasional desktop user. I do treat business clients different than Aunt Millie. Business clients get solid backup plans. Aunt Millie doesn't. Aunt Millie isn't paying for my expertise, so I don't care if she loses some cat pictures. In the "friends & family" domain, I prefer that those with the money buy Apple, those without get converted to some noob-friendly (currently Mint) Linux. I don't care to support people for free, just as I don't give away my other skills, like carpentry and auto repair, for free. At least, not just because of the F&F thing.

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  41. Re:Create a non-administrative account for yoursel by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    Huge issue here. In fact, doing this will get rid of the top three reasons you'd want to create a "guest" account anyway. The only remaining issue is folks messing with your desktop. Well, that and one regular guest who likes to hit that damn "mute" button I didn't even know my keyboard had..

  42. Real Advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Don't buy someone a computer until they have learned to use computers through a basic computer literacy course (school or otherwise.) This should cover 1-4, but....

    2) Don't buy someone a computer without also giving them a tech support route. If you feel that's you, great! If you're not willing to be their tech support, don't buy them one. Gift them a Gift Card to Best Buy and let Geek Squad handle it.
    2A) "The Cloud" is not a magic backup source. Rules 1 and 2 should address these concerns.
    3) Don't buy someone a computer if they don't have their rules about sharing it, and you agree as their tech support (if you are) that it is a good idea. Or, don't give them advice at all - let that person's tech support do it.
    4) Don't buy someone a computer and give them tips on how to use it. If someone is unaware of what System Restore does, DO NOT advise them of that option unless you're prepared to be that person's tech support for when they screw it up. Same for regedit, same for power-switch shutdowns.

    There. Fixed.

  43. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong, Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're Wrong.

      1. Anti-virus can't protect against stupidity/Zero Day exploits. Anti-virus can't help you against serious threats, so don't bother.
      2. Avoid the cloud. how could anybody be stupid enough to buy into it, unless its their own personal cloud storage?
      3. Never let a friend borrow the computer. If you let them check their email or read that story on slashdot you found interesting every now and then, you should be there, watching them the whole time. Do you not understand that you can get into the administrator account as long as you have physical access to the machine?
      4. I don't even know where to start with this one

      Here's a decent list for you:

      1. Gut the cdrom bay, buy a sata adaptor and an ssd. Put ssd in cdrom bay, Re-install os to ssd, use hdd as a media drive.
      2. Set up Plex on your desktop and laptop. Never pay for netflix again.
      3. Install a higher resolution screen, with a matte finish.
      4. Install pda.net usb tether software so you don't have to struggle with that later when you need internet on the go.

  44. two more steps by spywhere · · Score: 1

    Create an additional administrative account, with a complex password (but don't lose it). You will use this to effect repairs if malware infects your main profile. (Most Win6.x malware is confined to the user profile and C:\ProgramData folders to avoid the UAC prompt).

    Download the Hosts file from http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm, which will protect you from all kinds of threats (and it hides a buttload of advertising, too).

  45. After yesterday's revelations about NSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After yesterday's revelations about NSA intercepting and bugging new laptops en route to to its buyer, I would strongly suggest to first take apart given computer and check for unwanted USB outlets, followed by clean install of an OS of one's own choice.

  46. What would I tell them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd tell them to pretty much disregard out of hand anything written by Bennett Haselton. His prose and grammar is often poor, and his knowledge of the tech sector is lacking.

  47. "The cloud"? LOL, no. by kheldan · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The Cloud", frankly, sucks.

    The bandwidth of your Internet connection is a fraction of the bandwidth of a local storage device will be.
    "The Cloud", in spite of any encryption used, still puts your data at risk of snooping and theft even from the company providing the service.
    "Cloud" service providers aren't forever. Enjoy having one go out of business and take you data with it, or fall prey to hackers that trash your data.
    The NSA loves "The Cloud" because it makes their job of snooping that much easier for them.

    Just buy a USB hard drive and back up your important stuff to that then put it away in a safe place (safe deposit box at your bank if it's that important), or if it's small enough to burn to a DVD or Bluray disc, do that and store the disc(s) somewhere safe. Even USB flash drives come in sizes of hundreds of gigabytes and are not anywhere near as expensive as they used to be.

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    1. Re:"The cloud"? LOL, no. by dcollins · · Score: 1

      "if it's small enough to burn to a DVD or Bluray disc, do that and store the disc(s) somewhere safe"

      Why not use an external hard drive? Literally today I'm snapping and disposing backup CDs from 10 years ago, thinking what a terrible idea it was to have non-reusable media for backups.

      --
      We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
    2. Re:"The cloud"? LOL, no. by kheldan · · Score: 1

      Excuse me, but I did say "USB hard drive" in my comment.

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      Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
  48. my one tip by markdavis · · Score: 2

    I have just one tip: Install Linux. Then you don't have to worry about tips 1 through 4. (Well, I guess you could still consider 2, rsync is your friend).

  49. don't backup to cloud by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't backup to the cloud anything of a personal nature such as itineraries, credit card and purchase receipts, anything with your identity in it or your address, anything of a business sensitive nature or related to sensitive health issues the list goes on and on, just anything that could be used by criminals to harm you or identify you or anyone you have documents concerning.

    The problem is, there's no reason to believe that the cloud storage corporations will be any more effective at guarding against intrusion and theft than Target or any of the other thousands of credit card data breaches that are occurring on a rolling basis.

    As soon as you outsource your disk drive to the cloud, you are giving thieves a view into something that would have no hope of viewing otherwise- everything on your computer.

    It's far too burdensome for most people to divide their hard drive folders into "potentially sensitive" and otherwise. It's not how people think or organize their drives and what's potentially sensitive is not well defined.

    A better way to achieve security is through a couple common external hard drives, (make a back up of your back up with the second one). Using very modestly priced or even free backup software that's scheduled to wake the computer and run (Seagate gives free backup software with some their external disk drives) will give you all the data redundancy you need and if you use a back up once a week to an encrypted drive (Samsungs SDD are both hardy to drops and shocks- no moving parts and come automatically encrypted) that spends the rest of its time *somewhere else* (work, a friends or relative's house house) then you've safeguarded against fire and natural disaster with at most a week's lost data.

    I made a chart that details all the different ways that you can lose data or have it compromised and effective responses to them. unfortunately I can't post it here but I can list the threats . The ones in bold have actually happened to me and resulted in significant data loss. The arrows point to countermeasures. They are
    multiple physical external drives, multiple storage locations for drives, versioned backups on all backup drives , different power lines (internal cables) for each internal drive, surge protection , encryption.

    Maybe no one is likely to do all these, OTOH with just two external and one internal drives you could and if it's automated there is no hassle. It's looks more complicated than it is. Also for small valuable files, you could use multiple cheap USB drives and keep them at different locations, encrypting each.

    Backup plan:

    accidental overwrite during backup --> versioned backups, multiple disk backups

    accidental overwrite during editing --> backups generally

    drive failure --> multiple disk backups

    lost drive --> encryption

    virus / spying --> encryption

    power surge / misbehaving power supply lines --> different power lines for internal backup drives, surge protection for external backup drives

    lightening,--> surge protections, multiple physical locations

    fire, natural disaster--> multiple physical locations

    break in, theft--> multiple physical locations, encryption

    HTH

    1. Re:don't backup to cloud by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Cloud is a fine backup plan, IF:
        * It is NOT a mirroring / syncing system
        * It has built in encryption that you can verify
        * It supports diffs, and multiple versions, going back at least 60-90 days
        * The company is reputable

      Bennett's advice, of course, fails #1, so when you manage to corrupt your keeppass database or delete a bunch of stuff in that term paper you were working on, your cloud mirror system will happily purge the good copy of said file.

      The reason I support cloud backups (with those caveats) is precisely what you said:

      Maybe no one is likely to do all these

      Average users that I have dealt with typically do not devote sufficient attention to computer stuff to swap out 2-3 external drives on a regular and fixed schedule-- not that I can blame them; Im sure theres a lot of accounting-related or car-related stuff that Im terribly bad at, which is why I turn to experts for those things. In the past decade that Ive been working with computers, local backups for non-business users have 90% of the time been very old, or non-existent. Some of the time the user WAS dutifully swapping drives, but the backup system didnt like the changing drive letters, or the schedule got screwed up, or the drives were full and the user didnt know how to purge old backups.

      On the other hand, the users Ive set up with Crashplan have had solid backups 9/10 times. The ONE time I had an issue with crashplan was because of a bug with P2V and drive identifiers shifting. I have had issues occasionally with other cloud backup systems, usually when the provider is not reputable, but my experience with Crashplan has led me to advocate cloud backup when it is set up correctly. Sometimes these systems will allow you to specify multiple locations for the backup-- this is even better, as long as it is a fixed location. External drives, as far as Im concerned, are a no-go for end-user backups; theres just too many ways for them to screw up.

      Regarding your concern with encryption, again-- many at least claim to encrypt the data (possibly with guarantees against data theft-- check each provider). While a lot of them use some variant of "data encryption key is encrypted with logon password", some will allow you to specify an encryption passphrase or even a key / keyfile. As most of my experience is with Crashplan, I can say that they offer all 3 options; the first option is of course vulnerable to a server hack + password dump, but the other two are not, and file encryption is done locally.

      Hopefully I dont sound like a shill for crashplan, but my time with it vs with tape / USB drives / small NASes has led me to favor online backups for end-users 100% of the time. You have to live in the real world, and you have to use what works with real people. Cloud backup CAN be done properly, and it CAN be better than manually managed /rotated backups.

    2. Re:don't backup to cloud by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

      No you don't sound like a shill and I hope I don't sound like a scold. The key for me was realizing that the sheer volume of stuff I have isn't that great. There are basically two categories of stuff i need back to- one is my downloads which represent some significant effort of *finding and choosing* on my part which would be hard to recreate. The other is self-created stuff, which of course is not replaceable - so that's pictures documents projects letters drawings etc.

      The cloud works for stuff like movies and music purchased from the cloud and which live in the cloud anyway (Amazon, Google Play) so there's my nod to the cloud I guess.

      There is one issue I have that I am not sure about. If I encrypt everything, then I am safe from theft and non-govt. level spying pretty much but the greater danger is losing that encryption key or having it not work for some reason, which is a danger I should have included and bolded since I've had it happen using TrueCrypt. I am actually afraid to encrypt everything because I am afraid it will either not work or reasons unknown- as happened- or I'll lose the key. If that happens, it's like a nuclear bomb went off and took out your whole life everywhere.

      If anyone has an solution or wants to share their thoughts or what they do, it would be much appreciated.

    3. Re:don't backup to cloud by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      The best solution is to accept that most people do not need to worry about "NSA as an adversary". Use a passphrase as your encryption key and you are protected from subpoenas, but not bruteforces by gigantic clusters-- which is fine.

      If thats not acceptable, then accept that you need a solid system in place to protect and store your encryption key.

    4. Re:don't backup to cloud by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      If I encrypt everything, then I am safe from theft and non-govt. level spying pretty much but the greater danger is losing that encryption key or having it not work for some reason, which is a danger I should have included and bolded since I've had it happen using TrueCrypt. I am actually afraid to encrypt everything because I am afraid it will either not work or reasons unknown- as happened- or I'll lose the key. If that happens, it's like a nuclear bomb went off and took out your whole life everywhere.

      Yes, it has bothered me too. I started a system where my main data sits on encrypted hard drives. The backup happens when data is decrypted, re-encrypted using another key, and another mechanism which is per file encryption (ecryptfs) on a non-encrypted hard drive.

      The other mechanism is less secure than full disk encryption (the small encrypted files give more attack options), but I like that in a way because bit rot would lose me only some files not all. I also try to keep it physically safe.

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      Bingo Dictionary - Pragmatist, n. A myopic idealist.
  50. You miss one point by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    About creating that guest account - I have NEVER let anyone 'borrow' my laptop. It is mine, passworded, encrypted and the whole nine yards.

    1. Re:You miss one point by gnasher719 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      About creating that guest account - I have NEVER let anyone 'borrow' my laptop. It is mine, passworded, encrypted and the whole nine yards.

      MacOS X has a nice feature - even with full-disk encryption turned on, you can log in as a guest with Safari as the only application. Hard drive is still encrypted except for a small partition.

    2. Re:You miss one point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well now if you had friends...

  51. Hmmm....let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not burn your house?

  52. 4 better tips by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1: Reformat the hard drive and install your favorite flavor of Linux.

    2: Never let any one else touch it

    3: ???

    4 Profit

    1. Re:4 better tips by fisted · · Score: 1

      2: Whoever wants to touch it gets their own user account.

      FTFY

  53. Dice Dicking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ever since Dice got their dick in Slashdot, its gone down the crapper.. I keep asking myself why I still come back here.. Force of habit I guess..

    In fairness, Slashdot has been declining since way before Dice came along.

    But, Dice is giving it a right-good dicking! That's for sure.

  54. Four big tips for a new laptop .. by codeusirae · · Score: 2

    Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint and Sabayon .. link

  55. Dear Timothy by kumanopuusan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please stop approving Bennet "stories." He's a Roland Junior that everyone loves to hate. You're tech savvy, aren't you? Surely you know this submission is some pretty rank tripe.

    TYVM HAHNY

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    1. Re:Dear Timothy by bennetthaselton · · Score: 1

      What's a "Roland Junior"?

    2. Re:Dear Timothy by kumanopuusan · · Score: 2

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Piquepaille

      Roland posted a lot of garbage that no one was interested in, with links to entries on his own blog that he used to generate ad traffic. Then he died, and the groupthink consensus was that it wasn't worth hating the dead.

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    3. Re:Dear Timothy by bennetthaselton · · Score: 1

      http://slashdot.org/~rpiquepa/submissions:

      "A robotic Cyberknife to fight cancer" -- "The Cyberknife is not a real knife. This is a robot radiotherapy machine which works with great accuracy during treatment, thanks to its robotic arm which moves around a patient when he breathes."

      "Human hair to feed plants?" -- "You all know that agricultural crop production relies on fertilizers, such as composted waste materials. But I bet you wouldn't have thought to add human hair to animal manure to produce better and greener fertilizers."

      "Protecting beer from bacteria" -- "A Canadian PhD student from the University of Saskatchewan has a mission: saving beer from bacterial contamination."

      This is your designated whipping boy?

    4. Re:Dear Timothy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please stop approving Bennet "stories." He's a Roland Junior that everyone loves to hate. You're tech savvy, aren't you? Surely you know this submission is some pretty rank tripe.

      TYVM HAHNY

      You forgot to include Jeff Cogswell.

  56. Do not buy American brands by Reliable+Windmill · · Score: 1

    Vote with your wallet, let the NSA and U.S gov know that all the shit they pull only works as long as we are willing to support the U.S economy. Buy local brands first, other brands second, and American brands last.

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    1. Re:Do not buy American brands by thevirtualcat · · Score: 2

      Yes. This is an excellent point. The Chinese brands are known for their superior reliability, high standards of quality control and strongly-enforced privacy policies, after all.

      (The real point: Know what you're buying and how to secure it.)

  57. You forgot the most IMPORTANT step! by hackus · · Score: 1

    Erase Windows and Install Linux.

    In fact, if you want a cloud service, open a port for openvpn connection and tunnel into your hard drive at home.

    -Hack

    PS: I would also like to issue a warning. If you are a person or a company, do not use cloud services. If you need that sort of service, it is trivial to build and secure yourself now days with free software like a LINUX kernel and openvpn.

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  58. Whole House Surge Protection & Backing Up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just re-wired my old house and installed a Whole House Surge Protector by the Meter Panel. The protector was $85 at Electrical Supply house and my neighbor (electrical engineer) installed it. Simple process. Protects my new Maytag washer&dryer, my new GE range/oven, my new GE dishwasher and all my other electrical appliances. I still use surge strip for HDTV and DVD player and all computers and monitors. BACK UP. go to Newegg.com and buy an external CASE. Blank. Get one for up to 4TB's. Install your own Hard Drive and when it gets full or has problems, install a new one in the case. Don't get those pre loaded external cases with their software. Best BackUp software. www.karenware.com. Get Free Replicator. YOU can actually verify your backup files (individually) whereas with so many pre loaded software packages, you cannot. Tom - Full Time Tech

  59. cloud backups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Save files to a folder that is automatically mirrored to the cloud, for effortless backups." is a good tip. I've heard of online file storage, but I forgot that software can automatically backup files to the cloud. Thanks for sharing

    1. Re:cloud backups by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      idiots++;

  60. Re:Create a non-administrative account for yoursel by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

    And accessing your files / data / passwords, which everyone should know is far more important than the OS it sits on.

  61. Re:Create a non-administrative account for yoursel by fisted · · Score: 1

    No way. It fucking is my computer, I am the ADMIN so i fuken log in as AS ADMIN. Period.

  62. Re:Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong, Wrong Wrong Wrong Wron by fisted · · Score: 1

    Here's a decent list for you:

    1. Use free software.

    FTFY

  63. Isolate the OS Partition by Guy+From+V · · Score: 1

    Install or isolate your OS on a separate partition from everything else...so that you can keep "Your computer's guts and what makes it go" and "The rest of your stuff that doesn't need your computer working right if it suddenly wigs out." away from each other. Which is just how I put it to my parents and relatives so they can hopefully minimize the clusterfuck that I'll eventually have to sift through and try to salvage somehow when something screws up and they call me.

  64. Only idiots log in as admin by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Really, nobody should ever log in to their system - especially if it is running a Microsoft OS - with admin rights for regular work. You're just asking for trouble when do you.

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  65. NSA antivirus software? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So when is the NSA going to release their version of FREE antivirus ;) :) software?

  66. Apparently Hasselton Didn't Get The Hint by weilawei · · Score: 2

    Last time I remember seeing a piece on here, lots of people screamed at you: USE THE JOURNAL. Stop putting blog posts on /.'s front page. Link to your goddamn journal if you want to use Slashdot as hosting. Furthermore, this entire thing is Winbloze-centric, on a site populated by huge amount of people who use other OSes. Back to CNET or whichever hellhole you came from. Would someone please delete his account?

  67. Hi, it's just me, the guy who's used Dropbox and k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dropbox allows you to restore deleted files. You can even view and restore previous versions of the file if you overwrite it and want to get it back.

  68. Reply to Comment by Darinbob · · Score: 2

    Make a backup. The cloud is not a backup. The cloud is a way for Microsoft, Google, or Amazon to look at your pictures too before passing them on to the NSA. Thumb drives are much cheaper and do not require a high end internet connection.

    The best tip for novice users is to ignore anything Timothy says.

    (sorry about the title, silly beta slashdot requires one it seems)

    1. Re:Reply to Comment by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Sign up for Crashplan. For casual users it's easy to set-and-forget, and then you're covered in case of robbery, fire or lightning strike. For expert users with a decent Internet upload speed, it supports all mapped drives, including NAS shares, and there is an option to, in effect, send one terabyte of that full initial backup to them by mail.

  69. time machine by Darinbob · · Score: 2

    I would like something like Apple's Time Machine. It's simple to use, automatic, doesn't suck up resources, convenient to browse and restore from. Nothing for Windows is that useful and also free, and Microsoft keeps changing their default backup application every release.

    The drawback is lack of dual drives for backing up to, in case the user is hyper paranoid about fire. But seriously, if your computer is the only repository of you incredibly valuable baby photos, there are more problems to deal with than backups. Start printing those things out and putting them in an album. Things you really really don't want to lose tend to be few in number so put them on a thumb drive.

    Saving to the cloud is silly. It's just wasting bandwidth so that you can save your drafts of Christmas letters, or all twenty of your Thanksgiving photos even though you'll delete 19 of them a week later after reviewing them.

  70. Clone the drive before you get started by Marrow · · Score: 1

    Clone the original drive before you make any changes or investment in the new machine. That way, you can go back to the original factory finish any time you want. It will give you extra confidence in making changes or installing other operating systems.
    You should not rely on the re-installation tools provided by the manufacturer. They don't always work.

  71. You meant newb admin obviously ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No way. It fucking is my computer, I am the NEWB ADMIN so i fuken log in as AS ADMIN. Period.

    Fixed it for you, you left out the word "newb".

  72. Updated list by danknight48 · · Score: 1

    (1) If you don't want to pay for an anti-virus program, dont install a free one. Learn from your mistakes of clicking random shit, it makes you a better user in the end.

    (2) Save files to a NETWORKED SERVER. Or USB HDD/Stick if you care about your privacy.

    (3) If you have friends, they will most likely rather use their own phone than your laptop.

    (4) Be aware of your computer's System Restore option as a way of ignoring your own failures.

  73. The NSA can look at my holiday photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the NSA is so bored that it needs to look at thousands of photos of old buildings, museum artifacts, and the occasional active volcano, then I hope I hope the Super Secret Spies have a fun time travelling around the world with me.

    They probably know more about me as a person from emails, phonecalls, and social media posts, and whatever info du jour they are collecting.

    Again, that is fine with me. I really have nothing to hide.

    So yes, my photos are probably being harvested, but newsflash, just about everything online I do is anyway, and it's a damned convenient way to store them offsite. I may be OCPD and backup essential data from my various 4 Terabyte drives which have latent redundancy in them anyway onto DVDs, but frankly if I did that for everything, I would never actually have the time to live life.

  74. Wrong. by Morpf · · Score: 1

    Not only does this "news" in no way matter for people reading /. it is even wrong on so many levels, that it actually does more harm than good.

  75. the body or the subject! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    most worthless advice i've seen today

  76. #5 Just give it to me and let me tweak it for you. by csdarknightcs · · Score: 1

    Instead of giving them a list of To Do's and waiting for them to call me asking for help doing these basic things, I would prefer to just take the laptop and set it up for them. I also suggest they allow me to put Teamviewer in a folder called HELP on the desktop (along with a few other tools), so they can allow me to take a look at a problem without driving 100+ miles round trip. Helpful suggestions: Host file from MVPS; use task scheduler to have it update (free) Malwarebytes daily and scan weekly

  77. Re:The NSA can look at my holiday photos- Oh dear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So.... you don't care who's looking at your holiday photos.

    I really hope that all of them are only of you, and nobody else. Consider the following: what you might or might not know, is that your sister/daughter/cousin's girlfriend/etc "Susie", has just broken up with her now ex-boyfriend. She thinks it's over, and isn't talking about that unpleasant chapter. Unbeknownst to you, her ex is obsessed with her, and is stalking her. He's managed to get access to facial recognition software, and because of your carelessness, he's found those holiday pictures with Susie in them. He now knows where to look for Susie at holiday time. He shows up with a gun and starts shooting everyone who gets between him and Susie.

    That would be you and your loved ones. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/1st-degree-murder-charge-laid-in-michael-wassill-death-1.1406031

    Go ahead, and be as uncaring as you want about photos of yourself, but don't be rude and assume it ok to be careless with photos of other people.

  78. Re:Hi, it's just me, the guy who's used Dropbox an by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 1

    Dropbox allows you to restore deleted files. You can even view and restore previous versions of the file if you overwrite it and want to get it back.

    For backup purposes, use a proper backup program. Dropbox is probably better than nothing, but it is atrocious for backups. I had Dropbox delete most files from my account due to a bug (booted up an old linux partition which Dropbox quickly filled, and then it proceeded to delete everything that wouldn't fit on that partition from all my boxes). Turns out you can't undo a whole "delete" operation from Dropbox, although you can view it. You have to restore files individually (or by folder, I can't recall. It would have been a huge job to do in any case). I quickly restored from one of my other local backups (Crashplan).

    So, use a proper backup solution which preferrably backs up locally *AND* online (offsite). Use Dropbox for sync if you want, but back up your Dropbox folder as well :)

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  79. Number one should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.) Number one should be: immediately create recovery media if the laptop did not include any (likely). Windows 8 has a built-in tool called: "Create a Recovery Drive", use it first before you start messing with the machine.

    2.) Uninstall all the trialware/bloatware the laptop shipped with.

    3.) Install all available updates for the operating system, if it shipped with Windows 8 you need to go into the Windows 8 Store app to find the Windows 8.1 installer (install all available updates first before upgrading to 8.1 though).

    4.) Install Firefox or Chrome along with the Adblock extension. Set it as the default browser.

    I just bought an Asus X200CA netbook a few weeks ago, the above is what I did aside from replacing the regular laptop HDD with an SSD.