I have a similar situation. I use dbconvert to put what useful data from
access to postgres. export spreadsheets from Recon/quickbooks. Read data into OpenERP massaging on the way. I have had to modify OpenERP to suit our specific needs. I would recommend using version 7.0. The doco is better and the API is also much improved. There is a steep learning curve but that goes to all ERP systems. OpenERP handles both CRM and ERP, which falls within your requirements. But don"t be naive and think that porting these in house apps is easy. It is not. Plan well, get expert help and training and OpenERP will cost less than many alternatives.
Sun sued Microsoft for 2 Billion dollars for ruining Java. However Sun put Java in the hands of Microsoft to enable them to bugger it alsmost completely. So they got 2 Billion. I suggested that they take the money and run. They could have shared it all with their employees as a nice Christmas bonus and just disappeared. But no sooner they had 2 Billion Kodac suid Sun for 1 Billion. Easy come easy go.
Well back then why did Sun not take control of Java and write their own browser, leaving MS out in the cold? Beats me,
Well 1 Bill ain't much (is it?) Mmmm? Wasn't there a deal included not to sue each other for 10 years. Well at least that was public. Mmmmaybe there is something else going on. Sun has control over OO just enough to stifle the development just below that of anything really useful for business. Don't get me wrong OO is very useful to me. There are some things that are still very poor. Such as graphs in calc etc. and MS filters etc. What? do they want to sell Star Office over Open Office. Somehow I do not think that that is really a big money spinner for Sun. So Why hold back OO?
MS do deals in such ways that I would say were illegal and on the verge of "Evil conspiring organization" stuff. Oh some say "that's business" But is business an excuse to forget morality? NO!
Anyway it would be great to be the Puppet Master of Sun (Not only Sun but lots of other organizations and lets say certain individuals), who do little favors for the Master who in turn grants them breath. (Otherwise "cut off their air supply")
Here the Master is able via many channels to stifle, bug up and generally make Linux (As a desktop System) slightly less attractive to the general end user. Other means are by making deals (Pulling Strings) with software houses to ignore Linux and only support the tight arsed (proprietry) operating systems. Mac plays along with this game also.
I am not surprised if certain individuals bug up certain OSS programs so they either break sightly or never are configured well. Who pulls their strings??? However there are still some individuals that believe that everyone needs to read the code or the poorly documented RTFM and still cower behind a 80x25 70's type terminal playing with stty. haha.
Is Sun stupid or not? They could have had it all with Java but they licensed it the wrong way. And even now they do not even support it well. 5 Years to get 64Bit jnlp. Crickey! There is no excuse. Cups printing breaks - 2 years to fix it. I did not develop for developer.java.com simply because of their license. (They own my code) Apparently this is the same for OO.
What is Open Source? Is it Open Source or is it Stifle Source. It seems to me that not only Sun but many other companies are using Open Source as Stifle Source. Why has Apple bought CUPS? What about ghostscript (Always 2-5 years behind). Lots of examples of Stifle Source.
Lets not talk about hardware. Grrrrr!!
I guess that neither Java or OO are good money spinners for Sun now, so why should they care.
After all of this rant I do appreciate Sun open sourcing OO and Java (So Far). They have made many gestures to the Open Source community on one hand but on the other?
Open source is open slather for all sorts of skulduggery. Is there that much peer review? Are there that many developers. Who has time? We all have to eat and pay our mortgages, feed our screaming kids etc.
I do appreciate the heroes of the OSS community who put in a great deal of their time to write software for the community. A great form of charity. Thanks.
I do not appreciate companies trying to choke this great work. I do not appreciate individuals poisoning code.
Open Source is a great asset to the entire world. I cannot understand why it is still second best in Desktop and Business. It just is not polished as it should be.
KDE4 - Great coding, lousy usability. Gnome - Great coding, usability good but not excellent. Enlightenmment - Brilliant coding for 1997 - What h
I have seen this so many times. Big project, Big Budget, Big Names, Big Price, Big Stuffup.
I believe that a system like this is reasonably simple and can be created by a very small team.
With big projects you end up with teams of project managers micro managing everything. This is why it gets so diffiult. I was once on a project where my part was to copy files intact from remote locations to a central site. What a mess. The project manager had designed a process that failed every time. Not to mention the bandwith upgrades that happened after the file transfers. All they needed was one person with the know how to get it done and a small team of switched on IT persons to manage the entire thing.
Companies are concetrating too much on process and management than getting the work done. These types of projects are not that difficult.
A rocket sled travels about 9,000K/h. If we set one up between Melbourne and Sydney we could reduce the travel time from a 9 hour leasurly drive to ~7 minutes.
Just keep you head straight ang Blow your nose hard to keep you eyeballs popped out.
Not in all cases(); People like gnome, KDE, enlightenment, ICE,....., Look at Corel Linux, that is quite windows looking, people like this too. That's the point though, give everyone the option to select what they want. I guess if we introduced them to a windows like interface for a start and later on they might look at "options" and switch on another more advanced window manager. They will love it and may find the one they like, you could call them themes almost. Just my opinion though, gnome/enlightenment are the most advanced window managers in the world. Yes they are not always cohesive but nonetheless the best. Not to say that KDE has any problems either. Diversity is the UI I want.
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I have a similar situation. I use dbconvert to put what useful data from
access to postgres. export spreadsheets from Recon/quickbooks. Read data into OpenERP massaging on the way. I have had to modify OpenERP to suit our specific needs. I would recommend using version 7.0. The doco is better and the API is also much improved. There is a steep learning curve but that goes to all ERP systems.
OpenERP handles both CRM and ERP, which falls within your requirements. But don"t be naive and think that porting these in house apps is easy. It is not.
Plan well, get expert help and training and OpenERP will cost less than many alternatives.
Sun sued Microsoft for 2 Billion dollars for ruining Java. However Sun put Java in the hands of Microsoft to enable them to bugger it alsmost completely. So they got 2 Billion. I suggested that they take the money and run. They could have shared it all with their employees as a nice Christmas bonus and just disappeared.
But no sooner they had 2 Billion Kodac suid Sun for 1 Billion. Easy come easy go.
Well back then why did Sun not take control of Java and write their own browser, leaving MS out in the cold? Beats me,
Well 1 Bill ain't much (is it?) Mmmm? Wasn't there a deal included not to sue each other for 10 years. Well at least that was public. Mmmmaybe there is something else going on. Sun has control over OO just enough to stifle the development just below that of anything really useful for business. Don't get me wrong OO is very useful to me. There are some things that are still very poor. Such as graphs in calc etc. and MS filters etc.
What? do they want to sell Star Office over Open Office. Somehow I do not think that that is really a big money spinner for Sun. So Why hold back OO?
MS do deals in such ways that I would say were illegal and on the verge of "Evil conspiring organization" stuff. Oh some say "that's business" But is business an excuse to forget morality? NO!
Anyway it would be great to be the Puppet Master of Sun (Not only Sun but lots of other organizations and lets say certain individuals), who do little favors for the Master who in turn grants them breath. (Otherwise "cut off their air supply")
Here the Master is able via many channels to stifle, bug up and generally make Linux (As a desktop System) slightly less attractive to the general end user. Other means are by making deals (Pulling Strings) with software houses to ignore Linux and only support the tight arsed (proprietry) operating systems. Mac plays along with this game also.
I am not surprised if certain individuals bug up certain OSS programs so they either break sightly or never are configured well. Who pulls their strings??? However there are still some individuals that believe that everyone needs to read the code or the poorly documented RTFM and still cower behind a 80x25 70's type terminal playing with stty. haha.
Is Sun stupid or not? They could have had it all with Java but they licensed it the wrong way. And even now they do not even support it well. 5 Years to get 64Bit jnlp. Crickey! There is no excuse. Cups printing breaks - 2 years to fix it.
I did not develop for developer.java.com simply because of their license. (They own my code) Apparently this is the same for OO.
What is Open Source? Is it Open Source or is it Stifle Source. It seems to me that not only Sun but many other companies are using Open Source as Stifle Source. Why has Apple bought CUPS? What about ghostscript (Always 2-5 years behind). Lots of examples of Stifle Source.
Lets not talk about hardware. Grrrrr!!
I guess that neither Java or OO are good money spinners for Sun now, so why should they care.
After all of this rant I do appreciate Sun open sourcing OO and Java (So Far). They have made many gestures to the Open Source community on one hand but on the other?
Open source is open slather for all sorts of skulduggery. Is there that much peer review? Are there that many developers. Who has time? We all have to eat and pay our mortgages, feed our screaming kids etc.
I do appreciate the heroes of the OSS community who put in a great deal of their time to write software for the community. A great form of charity. Thanks.
I do not appreciate companies trying to choke this great work. I do not appreciate individuals poisoning code.
Open Source is a great asset to the entire world. I cannot understand why it is still second best in Desktop and Business. It just is not polished as it should be.
KDE4 - Great coding, lousy usability.
Gnome - Great coding, usability good but not excellent.
Enlightenmment - Brilliant coding for 1997 - What h
-- Microsoft has embraced the open-source community over the past few years in a very different way than before
Get your hand off my ass!
This is a Linux project. To keep Microsoft's grubby fingers out I would have created a bios that just doesn't boot Windows.
Problem solved.
I have seen this so many times. Big project, Big Budget, Big Names, Big Price, Big Stuffup.
I believe that a system like this is reasonably simple and can be created by a very small team.
With big projects you end up with teams of project managers micro managing everything. This is why it gets so diffiult. I was once on a project where my part was to copy files intact from remote locations to a central site. What a mess. The project manager had designed a process that failed every time. Not to mention the bandwith upgrades that happened after the file transfers. All they needed was one person with the know how to get it done and a small team of switched on IT persons to manage the entire thing.
Companies are concetrating too much on process and management than getting the work done. These types of projects are not that difficult.
A rocket sled travels about 9,000K/h. If we set one up between Melbourne and Sydney we could reduce the travel time from a 9 hour leasurly drive to ~7 minutes.
Just keep you head straight ang Blow your nose hard to keep you eyeballs popped out.
Not in all cases(); People like gnome, KDE, enlightenment, ICE, ....., Look at Corel Linux, that is quite windows looking, people like this too. That's the point though, give everyone the option to select what they want. I guess if we introduced them to a windows like interface for a start and later on they might look at "options" and switch on another more advanced window manager. They will love it and may find the one they like, you could call them themes almost. Just my opinion though, gnome/enlightenment are the most advanced window managers in the world. Yes they are not always cohesive but nonetheless the best. Not to say that KDE has any problems either. Diversity is the UI I want.