Absolutely Sean's dad should walk away and deny the public school system the money it gets from the state and fedgov for having his child as a student. Suing will be a waste of time and money, and will cause more stress and aggravation than it's worth. And for what - to put his child back into the same environment where he's bullied?
Moreover, Sean's father should encourage the parents of his child's friends, who are probably also geeks getting picked on, to take their kids out of the public school system as well. If there's no local support group or resources available for home schooling, they can start their own.
>I would be interested in reading about specific cases where the government has raided private citizens for possession of a legal firearm.
See links at bottom of the page.
>That leaves out raids to confiscate, say, fully-automatic machine guns, which most people know are pretty much illegal everywhere in the U.S.A.
Congratulations on knowing that machine guns are fully automatic; many people don't realize that they're the only true "assault" weapons on the market, while semi-automatics are not assault weapons.
BTW, I did say "on the market" because machine guns are legal to own. Ten states have passed laws prohibiting private ownership of machine guns, but there is no Federal prohibition on owning one manufactured and registered prior to 1986 so long as a "pound of flesh" ($200 tax) is paid to the government. You can find more info at http://www.subguns.com/ if you're interested. I post there as BCR #229.
>Also, I think you gun lovers have pretty damn little to complain about in comparison with the cruelly persecuted victims of the US's totally-berserk "war on drugs."
I'll agree that the Fourth Amendment has taken a hard beating in the last few years thanks to the "war on drugs". The difference is that the loss of liberty has occurred fairly quickly (last decade or so), while gun owners have watched their rights erode since the mid 1930's.
>On the other hand, if I ever had to work in a convenience store at night again like I did twenty-five years ago, you can bet your ass I'd get another gun.
Even if you worked in, say, Washington DC, Chicago, or New York, where it is pretty much impossible for you to legally own and/or carry a handgun?
>Even though I don't like guns and I don't own a gun, it does seem to me that if you follow the local laws and regulations for owning a gun, you should not be subjected to having your house raided by the police. But considering the chronic out-of-control behavior of the police in their status as drug-warriors, I can easily believe that gun-owners also see their civil rights abused on a regular basis. So this is an issue in which any citizen who values civil liberties should take an interest.
At least you're thinking logically, not emotionally, about this issue. Too many of the people who don't like guns think they should be banned for precisely that reason.
Gun owners in the US haven't had to face persecution anywhere near the level of the Jews in WWII. Also, enough gun owners in the US know about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising that I suspect similar attempts of government persecution would have rather disastrous results. I do see similarities between the raid at Ramsey (and the other companies) and the government attacks on firearm manufacturers in the US. The corporations are all being held responsible for the illegal acts perpetrated by individuals who use their products. Heck, let's sue Ford and GM for the carnage caused by drunk drivers while we're at it. Geeks and gun owners (I proudly wear both titles) share several characteristics, including a better education than average, and a desire simply to be left alone to pursue our hobbies. Gun owners, however, have seen their activities restricted more and more since the mid-1930's so I find they're a bit more cynical.
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Absolutely Sean's dad should walk away and deny the public school system the money it gets from the state and fedgov for having his child as a student. Suing will be a waste of time and money, and will cause more stress and aggravation than it's worth. And for what - to put his child back into the same environment where he's bullied? Moreover, Sean's father should encourage the parents of his child's friends, who are probably also geeks getting picked on, to take their kids out of the public school system as well. If there's no local support group or resources available for home schooling, they can start their own.
See links at bottom of the page.
>That leaves out raids to confiscate, say, fully-automatic machine guns, which most people know are pretty much illegal everywhere in the U.S.A.
Congratulations on knowing that machine guns are fully automatic; many people don't realize that they're the only true "assault" weapons on the market, while semi-automatics are not assault weapons.
BTW, I did say "on the market" because machine guns are legal to own. Ten states have passed laws prohibiting private ownership of machine guns, but there is no Federal prohibition on owning one manufactured and registered prior to 1986 so long as a "pound of flesh" ($200 tax) is paid to the government. You can find more info at http://www.subguns.com/ if you're interested. I post there as BCR #229.
>Also, I think you gun lovers have pretty damn little to complain about in comparison with the cruelly persecuted victims of the US's totally-berserk "war on drugs."
I'll agree that the Fourth Amendment has taken a hard beating in the last few years thanks to the "war on drugs". The difference is that the loss of liberty has occurred fairly quickly (last decade or so), while gun owners have watched their rights erode since the mid 1930's.
>On the other hand, if I ever had to work in a convenience store at night again like I did twenty-five years ago, you can bet your ass I'd get another gun.
Even if you worked in, say, Washington DC, Chicago, or New York, where it is pretty much impossible for you to legally own and/or carry a handgun?
>Even though I don't like guns and I don't own a gun, it does seem to me that if you follow the local laws and regulations for owning a gun, you should not be subjected to having your house raided by the police. But considering the chronic out-of-control behavior of the police in their status as drug-warriors, I can easily believe that gun-owners also see their civil rights abused on a regular basis. So this is an issue in which any citizen who values civil liberties should take an interest.
At least you're thinking logically, not emotionally, about this issue. Too many of the people who don't like guns think they should be banned for precisely that reason.
>So can you provide us with a few links?
Yep.
http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/en force/
http://www.hamnet.net/~n4zhg/batfabus.html
Melinda
Gun owners in the US haven't had to face persecution anywhere near the level of the Jews in WWII. Also, enough gun owners in the US know about the Warsaw Ghetto uprising that I suspect similar attempts of government persecution would have rather disastrous results. I do see similarities between the raid at Ramsey (and the other companies) and the government attacks on firearm manufacturers in the US. The corporations are all being held responsible for the illegal acts perpetrated by individuals who use their products. Heck, let's sue Ford and GM for the carnage caused by drunk drivers while we're at it. Geeks and gun owners (I proudly wear both titles) share several characteristics, including a better education than average, and a desire simply to be left alone to pursue our hobbies. Gun owners, however, have seen their activities restricted more and more since the mid-1930's so I find they're a bit more cynical.