Sorrry, CmdrTaco, but saying that using a sponsored browser is equal to giving up privacy is simply incorrect. Opera does not force you to enter details about you: It runs by default with exactly NO information about yourself and you CAN customize the ads to suit your needs if you WANT using the "Preferences" Dialog. So, do you really call some random ads, generated with exactly NO information about you "giving up privacy"? That is really a bit far fetched.
There is already are ware between the programmers of filter software and the spammers. See SpamCop.net. Ok, the owner of that site takes money for a almost spam-free email adress, but after my primary mailbox got unusable, I saw no other choice.
This site uses some very tough filters:
The MAPS RBL, which blocks notorius spammers and sometimes even puts their uplinks on the RBL.
An ISP-"Scorelist", which means that email that comes from an ISP with a high score has to be confirmed again from the sender because SpamCop wants to see if the return address is forged.
The negative impact is that there is about one piece of mail per week SpamCop holds back. And people who send email to me are often people who cannot understand the confirmation request.
So I think that this war cannot be won. After my experiences with ORBS, MAPS and SpamCop, I must say that having a nearly spam-free mailbox has severe disadvantages, and I think that there are lots of people who will accept SPAM in the end; simply because it is too difficult to build filter software that filters most SPAM and is user-friendly at the same time.
This setup might be working if you are and end-user. But while using the SPAM filter for my private email account, I noticed that some of my friends' ISPs are listed in.relays.orbs.org. This is why I want to decide what happens to that mail. BTW: I get about 3-5 SPAM Mails a day, causing a traffic maximum of 15-35kB/day and 500/1000kB / month. Seeing the fact that I get about 3-4 megabytes of mail every day, I can live with that.
In any case, our customers would be much MORE angry of they did not get important mail. So I think it is a good idea to let the end-user decide.
We offer our customers to mark potentially SPAM. All you need is the excellent rblcheck package, available here. The following.procmailrc works great (for sendmail):
It is nice to see that IBM, Watcom, Netscape and so on put a lot of money in Open Source development. But I cannot understand why they stand aside and do not do anything against FUD like this.
After all, this is also an insult against these big, honorable companies. If I said "IBM is a supporter of crime" in the public, I am sure to get sued. But I do not think it is good for business to complain against the DVD-CCA...
This could kill both MAPS and ORBS
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MAPS and ORBS should do exactly what they are sopossed to do: Filtering spammers, not enemies. When placing each other on their own black hole lists, they loose my trust.
Both are acting wrong: MAPS has no right to block ORBS outside their network (if they want to do it inside, it is their business...) and ORBS has no right to include MAPS on their black hole list because MAPS servers being open relays would be a ridicolous idea.
I work for a small ISP in Bonn, Germany. We have thought about using both MAPS and ORBS to protect our customers from spam, but we cannot afford afford using politically unreliable black hole lists. That's it for both MAPS and ORBS.
There is already a mozilla project about embedding mozilla in a GNOME widget, see it's homepage on mozilla.org Everyone can build Mozilla without the mail and news functionality. Sample ~/.mozconfig, which works great for me, is:
cd ~ mkdir mozilla cd mozilla export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org: /cvsroot cvs co mozilla/client.mk cd mozilla make -f client.mk pull_and_build_all
I would love to try writing some KDE applications, but I have to admit that C++ is too hard to learn for me and makes simple things difficult to do (for me). Is there a technical possibility to write bindings for these toolkits for FPC?
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Sorrry, CmdrTaco, but saying that using a sponsored browser is equal to giving up privacy is simply incorrect. Opera does not force you to enter details about you: It runs by default with exactly NO information about yourself and you CAN customize the ads to suit your needs if you WANT using the "Preferences" Dialog. So, do you really call some random ads, generated with exactly NO information about you "giving up privacy"? That is really a bit far fetched.
This site uses some very tough filters:
The negative impact is that there is about one piece of mail per week SpamCop holds back. And people who send email to me are often people who cannot understand the confirmation request.
So I think that this war cannot be won. After my experiences with ORBS, MAPS and SpamCop, I must say that having a nearly spam-free mailbox has severe disadvantages, and I think that there are lots of people who will accept SPAM in the end; simply because it is too difficult to build filter software that filters most SPAM and is user-friendly at the same time.
In any case, our customers would be much MORE angry of they did not get important mail. So I think it is a good idea to let the end-user decide.
TCPREMOTEIP=`/usr/local/bin/origip.pl || echo 127.0.0.1`
:0 /usr/local/bin/rblcheck -q "$TCPREMOTEIP";
:0 fwh
:0
* ! ? if [ -n "$TCPREMOTEIP" ]; then
fi
{
SUBJECT=`formail -zx Subject: || echo "no subject"`
| formail -I "Subject: SPAM: ${SUBJECT}"
}
${DEFAULT}
After all, this is also an insult against these big, honorable companies. If I said "IBM is a supporter of crime" in the public, I am sure to get sued. But I do not think it is good for business to complain against the DVD-CCA...
Both are acting wrong: MAPS has no right to block ORBS outside their network (if they want to do it inside, it is their business...) and ORBS has no right to include MAPS on their black hole list because MAPS servers being open relays would be a ridicolous idea.
I work for a small ISP in Bonn, Germany. We have thought about using both MAPS and ORBS to protect our customers from spam, but we cannot afford afford using politically unreliable black hole lists. That's it for both MAPS and ORBS.
mk_add_options MOZ_CVS_FLAGS="-q -z 9"
ac_add_options --disable-tests
ac_add_options --enable-optimize
ac_add_options --disable-debug
ac_add_options --enable-strip-libs
ac_add_options --disable-mailnews
How to build it:
cd ~: /cvsroot
mkdir mozilla
cd mozilla
export CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@cvs-mirror.mozilla.org
cvs co mozilla/client.mk
cd mozilla
make -f client.mk pull_and_build_all
So, was this project REALLY necessary?
I would love to try writing some KDE applications, but I have to admit that C++ is too hard to learn for me and makes simple things difficult to do (for me). Is there a technical possibility to write bindings for these toolkits for FPC?