It's demonstrably untrue. In this century alone, tens of millions of Europeans that could not own guns have been rounded up and slaughtered. It's going on right now in a place called Kosovo. If Jews and Romany in Europe had owned guns, do you really think the Nazis could have had such an easy time wiping them out? Legal ownership of guns is not the problem. Lousy laws about the availability of guns is a problem. Poor recognition and treatment for mental illness and emotional problems is a problem. Really lousy secondary educational systems that warehouse people for way too many years, and create a highly artificial and abusive social system is a problem. Ranting about gun ownership is not going to do anything about the problem. In it's own way, it's as much of a straw man as blaming games fo rwhat hapened.
I agree with you that NT is what W9x should be, except that NT is absolutely grusome when it comes to legacy 16 bit apps. 9x handles them much more effectively. I've watched NT fall over and die from legacy apps a number of times. Some it simply refuses to even run. Other than that, I find 9x to be slow and balky.
OK, everybody jump on the bandwagon, this poor bastard sucks. He'll get nailed against a wall for what really amounts to a prank. A prank that cost lots of money, and kept lots os sysadmins up late, but still, a prank. How long have melissa type macro exploits been known and extant? Nothing substantive been done by MS to curb them. No real seriosu efrforts undertaken by companies to see that their employees are properly trained in the most basic precautions against this sort of thing. The US Government continues to actively fight the use of strong encryption to secure systems and privacy. THis entier incident will get blown further and further out of proportion to villify all the bad "hackers" out there, and roust up support ofr tighter gevernmemt controls. Sad, since Mccain Just came out in support of easing up on encryption controls.
-If RMS or anyone else doesn't want to use it, fine - write something yourself if you're so philosophically opposed to using my software! Don't ask me to put my blood and tears into something, and then give it out for free to the rest of the world..-
I think this is RMS' point. that's exactly what he did and advocates doing, write his own rather than use the proprietary options available. THat sa8id, I agree, he has gone over the top one th GNU/Linux issue. Linux' not GNU! It's it's own OS that uses some GNU tools and elements, but it uses a lot of other stuff as well.
about the bad things your dad has been doing to you in bed at night, but that's no excuse for rampant stupidity. This decision is about reciprocation betwen phone companies. It's not anythingthat will have zip to do with end users. In this, the ISP is as much of an end user as you are. Look sweety, if you get out of high school, mybe one day you will learn what all the big hard words mean, and how things work out in the wolrd. 'till then, I hope you keep dad happy so you can keep playing on his WebTV.
The metro areas where you have to use a 10 digit for a local call are aberations. THe seven digit rule being refered to is a miosnomer for a local call, so metro 10 diogit calls that are defined as local will still count as local. THis decision has zero to do with ISP's, it has to do with business contracts between phone companies for reciprocation. Nothing an end user (and in this an ISP is as much an end user as you are) will ever really see.
Were you born this stupid and ignorant, or did you have to work at it? Go read what it says. read it. figure out what it really means, then eat the working end of a 12 gauge. There cannot be any per minute or per call cost passed along to the consumer or ISP. Hell, the decision is highly prelim,and does not even decide the issue in favor of the RBOC's, you stupid twat, it simply passes the ball back to the local PUC's, and indicates that some level of Federal jurisdiction may end up existing. That's all. So, while you are hiding under your bed from the white van's and black helicopters, try learning a littel bit about how things really work.
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/News_Rel eases/1999/nrcc9014.html Try reading the report. This is not about ISP's or internet access, it is about phone companies. When a new telco comes into a local area and competes for local service, they sign agreements to pay each other for compleeting local calls. So, I'm in Bell Atlantics region (ick) and joeblow phone company offers alternative local service. When I call somebody joeblow telco provides service for, from a Bell Atlantic serviced phone , Bell atlantic pays joeblow a certian amount for compleeting the call. When someone using joeblow calls a bellatlantic customer, joeblow pays Bell At. for completion. Some of the compeeting telco's got the bright idea to market to ISP.s, who don't make many cals, but get a lot. So, the RBOC's end up paying out loads of cash to the competitor, who does not pay them much since it's customers are not making calls. This ruling is about that. By determining that calls to ISP's are mixed in nature, and subject to federal jurisdiction (rather than that of lacal Public Utility COmmissions) they FCC clears the way for RBOC's to renegotiate the contract terms with the alternative locval providers that are making a lot of moneyu out of a loophole. This has jack to do with your access.
Or is that misstyped? Anyway, yeah, I meant freeBSD. If we are gonna compare family trees, we gotta get minix and all the GNU tools into it as well, and run it all back to the early 70's. I think it's fair to say that the free variants (or open if you like, I'm not religious on the semantics) developed more or less concurrently. Sorta. Not exactly or anything. My main point was to question the first posters statement that OS X was based on stuff a lot older than anything linux or NT has in it.
Look at the dynamic here. More companies are going to the intel/NT option because it is cheaper than a commercial unix workstation. Bottom line, you can buy more for less. This has nothing to do with performance or stability, just bottom line. Even if support costs are higher, that is probably a differnt budget. This is an equation where linux runs rings around NT or any of the commercial unix offerings. I look forward to seeing what these numbers will be in a year to 18 months. this is a game where linux stands to win and win big.
THis is of intrest. News does not just have to be about the latest greatest line of code of whizbang gizmo. Also, though this was not the focus of the article, I think that this film is interesting from a tech standpoint because of how it was made, using relatively new technology to get around political forces that would not have allowed it's filming using traditional methods. Don't be so narrow. I agree the uninformes politacal rants are somewhat problematic, but hell,/. is a pretty cool resource, these people do it for no cost to us, and I think they deserve to indulge themselves sometimes. YOu can counter them, or ignore them. The posts sengen puts up you don't think belong here don't keep anything else form going up, and you do not have to read them. Excercise your ablity to not read stuff you don't want to read, I think youwill find it quite liberating. If it truly offends you, why not go start your own news for nerds site, and you can not post all the stuff you think should not be posted on such a site.
Do you get paid to spread this sort of material? Doesn't anyone find it odd that the more successfull distributions are coming under so much attack lately. Especailly groups like RedHat that have done so much to actively support the Free Software movemment. These attempts to divide the community need to be seen for what they are, and resisted.
I agree that there is more nd more FUD being spread by MS types (and Apple types for that matter), but I see a serious cannibalistic trend among some in the OSS community. It's like the old deal with punk bands that got successful, everyone raged at ''em for "selling out". I just think it's a shame that there is a group that seems to want it all to stay marginal and underground, or are too myopic to see any sucess for a part of OSS translates into a success for the whole of it. just my$.02, for what it's worth. That and a buck will get you a cup'o'coffe.
So, RH and linux have the jazz right now. RH in particular (though others are also) is developing support channels. Big trad. companies like that. As more people get introduced to OSS, through RH, SuSE, or whatever else, the entire OSS community benefits. This whole mindset of "linux/redhat/anybody is gaining success, we must revile them as much as we hate MS is a bit counterproductive.
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This 3D Map is a much better view of the affected buildings.
It's demonstrably untrue. In this century alone, tens of millions of Europeans that could not own guns have been rounded up and slaughtered. It's going on right now in a place called Kosovo.
If Jews and Romany in Europe had owned guns, do you really think the Nazis could have had such an easy time wiping them out?
Legal ownership of guns is not the problem. Lousy laws about the availability of guns is a problem. Poor recognition and treatment for mental illness and emotional problems is a problem. Really lousy secondary educational systems that warehouse people for way too many years, and create a highly artificial and abusive social system is a problem.
Ranting about gun ownership is not going to do anything about the problem. In it's own way, it's as much of a straw man as blaming games fo rwhat hapened.
I agree with you that NT is what W9x should be, except that NT is absolutely grusome when it comes to legacy 16 bit apps. 9x handles them much more effectively. I've watched NT fall over and die from legacy apps a number of times. Some it simply refuses to even run.
Other than that, I find 9x to be slow and balky.
OK, everybody jump on the bandwagon, this poor bastard sucks. He'll get nailed against a wall for what really amounts to a prank. A prank that cost lots of money, and kept lots os sysadmins up late, but still, a prank.
How long have melissa type macro exploits been known and extant? Nothing substantive been done by MS to curb them. No real seriosu efrforts undertaken by companies to see that their employees are properly trained in the most basic precautions against this sort of thing.
The US Government continues to actively fight the use of strong encryption to secure systems and privacy.
THis entier incident will get blown further and further out of proportion to villify all the bad "hackers" out there, and roust up support ofr tighter gevernmemt controls.
Sad, since Mccain Just came out in support of easing up on encryption controls.
-If RMS or anyone else doesn't want to use it, fine - write something
yourself if you're so philosophically opposed to using my software! Don't ask me to put my blood and
tears into something, and then give it out for free to the rest of the world..-
I think this is RMS' point. that's exactly what he did and advocates doing, write his own rather than use the proprietary options available.
THat sa8id, I agree, he has gone over the top one th GNU/Linux issue. Linux' not GNU! It's it's own OS that uses some GNU tools and elements, but it uses a lot of other stuff as well.
about the bad things your dad has been doing to you in bed at night, but that's no excuse for rampant stupidity.
This decision is about reciprocation betwen phone companies. It's not anythingthat will have zip to do with end users. In this, the ISP is as much of an end user as you are.
Look sweety, if you get out of high school, mybe one day you will learn what all the big hard words mean, and how things work out in the wolrd. 'till then, I hope you keep dad happy so you can keep playing on his WebTV.
The metro areas where you have to use a 10 digit for a local call are aberations. THe seven digit rule being refered to is a miosnomer for a local call, so metro 10 diogit calls that are defined as local will still count as local.
THis decision has zero to do with ISP's, it has to do with business contracts between phone companies for reciprocation. Nothing an end user (and in this an ISP is as much an end user as you are) will ever really see.
Were you born this stupid and ignorant, or did you have to work at it?
Go read what it says. read it. figure out what it really means, then eat the working end of a 12 gauge.
There cannot be any per minute or per call cost passed along to the consumer or ISP. Hell, the decision is highly prelim,and does not even decide the issue in favor of the RBOC's, you stupid twat, it simply passes the ball back to the local PUC's, and indicates that some level of Federal jurisdiction may end up existing. That's all.
So, while you are hiding under your bed from the white van's and black helicopters, try learning a littel bit about how things really work.
http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Common_Carrier/News_Rel eases/1999/nrcc9014.html
Try reading the report.
This is not about ISP's or internet access, it is about phone companies. When a new telco comes into a local area and competes for local service, they sign agreements to pay each other for compleeting local calls. So, I'm in Bell Atlantics region (ick) and joeblow phone company offers alternative local service. When I call somebody joeblow telco provides service for, from a Bell Atlantic serviced phone , Bell atlantic pays joeblow a certian amount for compleeting the call. When someone using joeblow calls a bellatlantic customer, joeblow pays Bell At. for completion.
Some of the compeeting telco's got the bright idea to market to ISP.s, who don't make many cals, but get a lot. So, the RBOC's end up paying out loads of cash to the competitor, who does not pay them much since it's customers are not making calls.
This ruling is about that. By determining that calls to ISP's are mixed in nature, and subject to federal jurisdiction (rather than that of lacal Public Utility COmmissions) they FCC clears the way for RBOC's to renegotiate the contract terms with the alternative locval providers that are making a lot of moneyu out of a loophole.
This has jack to do with your access.
Or is that misstyped?
Anyway, yeah, I meant freeBSD. If we are gonna compare family trees, we gotta get minix and all the GNU tools into it as well, and run it all back to the early 70's.
I think it's fair to say that the free variants (or open if you like, I'm not religious on the semantics) developed more or less concurrently. Sorta. Not exactly or anything.
My main point was to question the first posters statement that OS X was based on stuff a lot older than anything linux or NT has in it.
Look at the dynamic here. More companies are going to the intel/NT option because it is cheaper than a commercial unix workstation. Bottom line, you can buy more for less. This has nothing to do with performance or stability, just bottom line. Even if support costs are higher, that is probably a differnt budget. This is an equation where linux runs rings around NT or any of the commercial unix offerings. I look forward to seeing what these numbers will be in a year to 18 months. this is a game where linux stands to win and win big.
THis is of intrest. News does not just have to be about the latest greatest line of code of whizbang gizmo. Also, though this was not the focus of the article, I think that this film is interesting from a tech standpoint because of how it was made, using relatively new technology to get around political forces that would not have allowed it's filming using traditional methods. /. is a pretty cool resource, these people do it for no cost to us, and I think they deserve to indulge themselves sometimes. YOu can counter them, or ignore them. The posts sengen puts up you don't think belong here don't keep anything else form going up, and you do not have to read them. Excercise your ablity to not read stuff you don't want to read, I think youwill find it quite liberating.
Don't be so narrow. I agree the uninformes politacal rants are somewhat problematic, but hell,
If it truly offends you, why not go start your own news for nerds site, and you can not post all the stuff you think should not be posted on such a site.
Do you get paid to spread this sort of material? Doesn't anyone find it odd that the more successfull distributions are coming under so much attack lately. Especailly groups like RedHat that have done so much to actively support the Free Software movemment.
These attempts to divide the community need to be seen for what they are, and resisted.
I agree that there is more nd more FUD being spread by MS types (and Apple types for that matter), but I see a serious cannibalistic trend among some in the OSS community.
It's like the old deal with punk bands that got successful, everyone raged at ''em for "selling out". I just think it's a shame that there is a group that seems to want it all to stay marginal and underground, or are too myopic to see any sucess for a part of OSS translates into a success for the whole of it.
just my$.02, for what it's worth. That and a buck will get you a cup'o'coffe.
So, RH and linux have the jazz right now. RH in particular (though others are also) is developing support channels. Big trad. companies like that. As more people get introduced to OSS, through RH, SuSE, or whatever else, the entire OSS community benefits.
This whole mindset of "linux/redhat/anybody is gaining success, we must revile them as much as we hate MS is a bit counterproductive.
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