Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the neals-distribution-of-choice dept.
libtech writes
"S.u.S.E. has just released v. 6.0 of their linux distro... Its a german only release but the english version will be out later this month."
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Yet Another Suse Trashkit?
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Anonymous Coward
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Still using YaST, which I believe is just another win.ini.
ahhh.....
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Anonymous Coward
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that comment about yast is unfair.
and does this include a 2.0.XX kernel or one of the pre-2.2, the only reason i asked is because this is what redhat did with 5.2.
"r0dstewart" robswin@hempseed.com
glibc
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i don't understand german very well, but i think it is finally glibc-based ?
cob2k25 mailto:coredump@videotron.ca
No Subject Given
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SuSE Linux 6.0 : glibc, XFree86TM 3.3.3, 2.0.36 StarOffice 5.0. released 21.dec.98 now sold out available again 20.jan.98 I've been using it since '95 with no trouble.
uwe.klein@cruise.remove.de
Yet Another Suse Trashkit?
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Anonymous Coward
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Nah, he lives here and we love him. We think you, however, are an idiot.
This is the sort of thing I wait for...
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Anonymous Coward
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Same feelings here. I don't understand those distro arguments.
I used started with Slackware... it was years ago. After a long period of not using computers at all (3 years, that sucked), I got myself a PC and Redhat... I was using Red Hat 5.1 until recently, when a UK mag gave away a single cd version of SuSE 5.2, which I installed. I really liked what I saw, and immediately ordered SuSE 5.3.
I installed it on my main production system, and even installed it into a box I use for http/ftp serving, masquarading etc., alhtough it really wasn't needed.
IMHO, SuSE 5.3 is by far superior to RedHat, and now that they're finally using glibc, I don't see any reason why one should prefer Red Hat.
As for the commends regarding YaST, if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't use it anyway, I like fiddling with the config files manually.
Didn't use linuxconf anyway.
-W
6.0-beta equal to the final release?
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Since a boxed Suse-6.0 is actually neither available in the US nor in Germany (no new orders can be handled within the next two weeks): Is 6.0-beta as it is available from the ftp-mirrors (e.g. ftp.gwdg.de) equivalent to the final version (without the commercial stuff etc.)?
S.u.S.E.
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Ja S.u.S.E. ist so süß. Schlägt das crap aus jenen M$-wannabees @ RedHat inc. heraus.
Babelfish to the rescue^2
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Anonymous Coward
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Looks like the original was babelfished in the opposite direction already, at least to me and Im German, btw...
translation
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Anonymous Coward
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"yeah, suse is so sweet, it beats the crap out of those microsoft wannabe's at redhat software."
S.u.S.E.
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Good lord, man, Red Hat is so different from Microsoft in so many ways. The good folks at RH would have to exclusively dominate the market, buy out all of the marketable ideas they could get, squash the rest using a variety of unethical and illegal tactics, and twist the GPL to hell and back before they would even be in the same league as Microsoft.
Don't use that comparison lightly. Try working at MS. It sure gave me an appreciation for what truly bad business practices were, and just how unethical a company can be. And Red Hat, my friend, is no Microsoft.
No Subject Given
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Is there a good URL with a a relatively unbiased comparison of the different distro's anywhere? I hear lots of kind words about SuSE and RedHat but it's always in a rather one sided way.
What?
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Anonymous Coward
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You mean, you can't speak German?
Why a gecko (or lizard) for Suse?
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Anonymous Coward
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Why a gecko (or lizard) icon for Suse?
stop all the flames
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Anonymous Coward
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im sick of all these senseless flames about suse. i mean come on just because the germans were nazis doesnt mean we cant use their linux distribution. after all they never used the a bomb. and they never invented mcrib. but they did invent mentos. but seriously i think all the flaming needs to stop before we end up killing each other. we cant kill each other, we are the technocratic elite. we need to hire a bunch of poor shmucks to do that for us. come on, act like the class you now belong to.
Hmm...
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Anonymous Coward
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Oh dear me! I certainly hope that being a U.S. citizen does not mean being semi-literate. Look up the word Jingo for a clue.
RedHat 5.2 v Suse 5.3 url
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Quick search on the net and I came up with this link.
I pretty much agree with it to be frank, and it seems that the major deficiencies of SuSE 5.3 he pointed out are "fixed" in 6. Interesting, no?
I wonder what he'd say comparing RedHat w/ SuSE 6.
-W
The only thing i dont like about SuSE
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Anonymous Coward
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They use 8.3 filenames for the RPMS they install. Even in the fullnames dir its only a 8 char package name plus the version number and arch.
If anyone knows howto fix it, email storm@atdot.org
Hmm... indeed
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well there are a couple of veiws here as my family is partly in the U.S. (one member I will tell you what it is the USA thinks that they are the best at software and are reguarded as so BUT and its a big but alot of the engineers are from around the world many people includeing intel sun and M$ have complained to the gov to set the visa linit in this catorgory they issue a silly amount of visas in the computeing field in all about 300,000 i think ? this many people are non US and yet all documentation for alot of products are only english (I pity you though as I get all the cool shit from china and japan and it works over here in the UK unlike in the US(TVs,video ect)) plus the USA has the most people online and so the internet is considered US well theres a problem there as most US dont have a clue about how a computer works and use windows or mac DOh (if you have even spent five minutes in a tec surport room you will know what I mean) please be aware that this enviroment is like any,prone to break itself up into sub cultures and so nationalism is bond to come up please do not offend more people by talking about balls as round furry tennis balls are the most comman and does not mean anything!
John Jones
johnjones@postmaster.co.uk
glibc
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Anonymous Coward
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it is glibc based.
the kernel is 2.0.36 but they have set everything up for 2.2 and will put it on their website for downloads when it is available.
The german version can be installed in english, it is just the paper documentation that is in german.
This is the sort of thing I wait for...
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Anonymous Coward
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I went from Slackware to RedHat 5.0 and then on to 5.1. At that stage I had to implement a PCnfs server NOW. After 4 weeks of failure I tried SuSE 5.1 and it worked in 5 minutes.
SuSE 5.2 was buggy, a bit like RedHat 5.1
I was going to skip 5.3 but got it in the end (it works perfectly) and will probably migrate to 6.1 unless I have to upgrade before it comes out.
S.u.S.E.
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Anonymous Coward
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SuSE ist (durch YaST) eigentlich eher wie M$ als RedHat ist. Ist mir egal - werde ich weiterhin benutzen, aber ohne RedHat niederzumachen. RedHat hat glibc forciert und wahrscheinlich die KDE Lizenzveränderung erzwungen.
Flames are for . . .
3 years!
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Anonymous Coward
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Yeah, I want to try!
Red Hat == talk has, apparently
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Anonymous Coward
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Yup, reden zu, sprechen mit. I guess I'm glad that I had to take 3 years of German in H.S. SuSE is a nice dist, kind of Slackware++.
Are you kidding?
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Are you completely stupid or just poking fun?
Win.ini is a text file containing system settings. You can read it with a text-editor. Most Unix configuration files are also text, so you can manipulate them with a text editor. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT IS "GREAT" ABOUT BOTH UNIX CONFIGURATION FILES AND WIN.INI in that they are portable, readable, and modifiable. Try opening the windows registry in GNU Emacs!
YaST is not a fucking text file you MORON. It's a system configuration tool just like linuxconf on Redhat or Admintool in Solaris or SMIT in AIX.
Grow up. Unix is always evolving. If you wanna stop PRETENDING to be a purist, get yourself a copy of Programmers Workbench and an old VAX.
Happy Hacking!
SuSE 6.0 is 2.2.0 Ready
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If that manual is anything like my SuSE 5.2 manual, it's next to useless.
It is translated, poorly, from unformal German. It is not a high-quality reference manual. Who puts smileys in technical writing?
SuSE is not for newbies. Their software may be very good, but until I get more Linux experience, I'll be sticking with Red Hat.
Version leap
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It's a version leap to glibc. The "2.2 ready" is merely something they're doing because they expect the 2.2.0 kernel to be released sometime this quarter. Considering that not much will change from 2.1.130 (shipped alternative kernel) to 2.2.0, I doubt they'll make a major version for the kernel change. Which is, I think, the way it should be; the kernel is a fundamental piece of code, but not one that most people really see every day.
I doubt they would've mentioned it, except that 5.3 was *not* 2.2 ready; in order to upgrade to a development kernel (2.1.125), I had to upgrade almost as much stuff as the DIY install that I've been using most, which has been around for about two years, was based on Slackware (3.1?), and hasn't had much upgraded besides the kernel, except for things that had problems. (For example, it still uses sendmail 8.7.5, because I'm only on dynamic IP, and everyone who has access to the box has root access. Not to mention, sendmail's only used for outgoing; incoming is POP3.)
No Subject Given
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What does finger have to do with daylight savings time? That sounds like a timezone setting to me. (not saying you couldn't had a problem, just saying it sounds like you fixed the wrong place.)
One would probably expect the whois to be for europe, considering; still, I'd send them complaint mail about it, on the theory that if enough people complain about the various minor nuisances, they'll realize whois should probably be based on timezone, or some other suggestive factor.
Think before you write. Its just time for their quarterly update. You can get 6.1 in spring. If they would always wait until this or that program/kernel is ready for release, they would wait infinite. Regards Tobias
...who wants to learn German for the sole purpose of being able to get the latest version of S.U.S.E. right when it comes out? Ach, mein Leiderhosen!
I think I'll learn Spanish first, though, so I can finally understand all the lyrics on my Poncho Sanchez and Tito Puente albums.
-Eric
This is the sort of thing I wait for...
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Lupulack
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I've used SuSE 5.2, and found it very good ( the version of KDE included was less than stable, tho ) I often recommend it for new users, as I've found Red Hat to be less well organized ( no flames please, just my opinion. How can I recommend / help with a dist. I don't personally use or like? ) I can see myself picking this up soon...
-- The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.
Riva TNT X Server...?!
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Skip666Kent
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I see it in the list of contents, but it's not on the ftp site. What gives?! Whaaagghhhh!
I've become a big SuSE fan over the past few months, largely due to the convenience of the Yast text-based configuration tool. Configuration utilities are easily circumnavigated for do-it-yerselfers, and I absolutely LOVE the way it sniffs out dependencies for packages during software installs and/or upgrades. Its install process is nice, but needs to give new users a bit more prompting as far as "what do I do next?". They are perhaps relying on the user to closely read the manual during install, which is fine, but strikes me as unneccessary. Look to Slackware (I think) for the ultimate 'directed' install. Slackware prompts the user at every step, but the user can always go elsewhere if they so choose.
Red Hat has good configuration utilites for the command line as well, but I keep forgetting what they're called. It would be a nice and fairly easy devel. effort, (I think) to gather them together under one master utility.
I was also a bit disappointed with Red Hats $30 off-the-shelf package containing only a single cd, plus one more full of demos I'll never use. (That's just me, tho'). GLINT is also fairly annoying and LONG overdue for an upgrade. Choosing a source install directory should be a quick and simple point and click procedure.
IN PRAISE of Red Hat, however, they get ALL the credit (as far as I'm concerned) for bravely sticking to their guns by using GLIBC, fueling and encouraging development to the point where all the OTHER distros now feel it is safe to use. Someone had to be the first, and in so doing, Red Hat was (is) pivotal in hastening its development.
I cannot judge the author's knowledge of German (because I don't speak it myself), but his post does have a valid point (although greatly exaggerated). SuSE is definitely superior to RedHat. I tried both distros and I liked SuSE much more. I found RedHat to be quite buggy and misconfigured which gave me an impression that it was a quick hack rather then a Linux distribution. But comparing RedHat to M$ is definitely a stretch...
-- ___
If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
SuSE includes strong crypto
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jpsmets
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ROW (Rest Of the World) users may notice that SuSE includes strong crypto products (128 bit SSL, 3DES SSH etc.) which can be exported anywhere. I think it is really nice to provide Apache with SSL and PHP built-in.
Guys, stick to English here, will ya?
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uradu
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Translation: SuSE is (because of YaST) rather more like M$ than RedHat. I don't care--I will keep using it, but without putting RedHat down. RedHat has pushed glibc and probably forced the KDE licence change.
BTW, all Germans insisting on native language, please go to Schrägstrichpunkt instead, yes?
Why a gecko (or lizard) for Suse? bah click on it
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Alex+Zepeda
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Though currently its using 2.0.36 if you read further into the webpage and look at the new 'features' they state that just d/l 2.2.0 when it comes out, compile and reboot... and it should work =]
If you haven't tried SuSE before... do so now... with 5 cds and a 400 page manual you can't go wrong.
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Still using YaST, which I believe is just another
win.ini.
that comment about yast is unfair.
and does this include a 2.0.XX kernel or one of the pre-2.2, the only reason i asked is because this is what redhat did with 5.2.
"r0dstewart"
robswin@hempseed.com
i don't understand german very well, but i think it is finally glibc-based ?
cob2k25
mailto:coredump@videotron.ca
SuSE Linux 6.0 :
glibc, XFree86TM 3.3.3, 2.0.36
StarOffice 5.0.
released 21.dec.98 now sold out
available again 20.jan.98
I've been using it since '95 with no trouble.
uwe.klein@cruise.remove.de
Nah, he lives here and we love him. We think you, however, are an idiot.
Same feelings here. I don't understand those distro arguments.
I used started with Slackware... it was years ago. After a long period of not using computers at all (3 years, that sucked), I got myself a PC and Redhat... I was using Red Hat 5.1 until recently, when a UK mag gave away a single cd version of SuSE 5.2, which I installed. I really liked what I saw, and immediately ordered SuSE 5.3.
I installed it on my main production system, and even installed it into a box I use for http/ftp serving, masquarading etc., alhtough it really wasn't needed.
IMHO, SuSE 5.3 is by far superior to RedHat, and now that they're finally using glibc, I don't see any reason why one should prefer Red Hat.
As for the commends regarding YaST, if you don't like it, don't use it. I don't use it anyway, I like fiddling with the config files manually.
Didn't use linuxconf anyway.
-W
Since a boxed Suse-6.0 is actually neither available in the US nor in Germany (no new
orders can be handled within the next two
weeks): Is 6.0-beta as it is available from
the ftp-mirrors (e.g. ftp.gwdg.de) equivalent
to the final version (without the commercial
stuff etc.)?
Ja S.u.S.E. ist so süß. Schlägt das crap aus jenen M$-wannabees @ RedHat inc. heraus.
Looks like the original was babelfished in the opposite direction already, at least to me and Im German, btw...
"yeah, suse is so sweet, it beats the crap out of those microsoft wannabe's at redhat software."
Good lord, man, Red Hat is so different from Microsoft in so many ways. The good folks at RH would have to exclusively dominate the market, buy out all of the marketable ideas they could get, squash the rest using a variety of unethical and illegal tactics, and twist the GPL to hell and back before they would even be in the same league as Microsoft.
Don't use that comparison lightly. Try working at MS. It sure gave me an appreciation for what truly bad business practices were, and just how unethical a company can be. And Red Hat, my friend, is no Microsoft.
Is there a good URL with a a relatively unbiased comparison of the different distro's anywhere? I hear lots of kind words about SuSE and RedHat but it's always in a rather one sided way.
You mean, you can't speak German?
Why a gecko (or lizard) icon for Suse?
im sick of all these senseless flames
about suse. i mean come on just because the germans
were nazis doesnt mean we cant use their linux distribution.
after all they never used the a bomb. and they never invented
mcrib. but they did invent mentos. but seriously
i think all the flaming needs to stop before
we end up killing each other. we cant kill each other, we are the technocratic elite.
we need to hire a bunch of poor shmucks to do that for us.
come on, act like the class you now belong to.
Oh dear me! I certainly hope that being a U.S. citizen does not mean being semi-literate. Look up the word Jingo for a clue.
http://www.futurenet.com/pcplus/article.asp?id=544 9
Quick search on the net and I came up with this link.
I pretty much agree with it to be frank, and it seems that the major deficiencies of SuSE 5.3 he pointed out are "fixed" in 6. Interesting, no?
I wonder what he'd say comparing RedHat w/ SuSE 6.
-W
They use 8.3 filenames for the RPMS they install.
Even in the fullnames dir its only a 8 char package name plus the version number and arch.
If anyone knows howto fix it, email storm@atdot.org
well there are a couple of veiws here as my family is partly in the U.S. (one member I will tell you what it is
the USA thinks that they are the best at software and are reguarded as so BUT and its a big but alot of the engineers are from around the world many people includeing intel sun and M$ have complained to the gov to set the visa linit in this catorgory they issue a silly amount of visas in the computeing field in all about 300,000 i think ? this many people are non US and yet all documentation for alot of products are only english (I pity you though as I get all the cool shit from china and japan and it works over here in the UK unlike in the US(TVs,video ect))
plus the USA has the most people online and so the internet is considered US well theres a problem there as most US dont have a clue about how a computer works and use windows or mac DOh (if you have even spent five minutes in a tec surport room you will know what I mean) please be aware that this enviroment is like any,prone to break itself up into sub cultures and so nationalism is bond to come up please do not offend more people by talking about balls as round furry tennis balls are the most comman and does not mean anything!
John Jones
johnjones@postmaster.co.uk
it is glibc based.
the kernel is 2.0.36 but they have set everything up for 2.2 and will put it on their website for downloads when it is available.
The german version can be installed in english, it is just the paper documentation that is in german.
I went from Slackware to RedHat 5.0 and then on to 5.1. At that stage I had to implement a PCnfs server NOW. After 4 weeks of failure I tried SuSE 5.1 and it worked in 5 minutes.
SuSE 5.2 was buggy, a bit like RedHat 5.1
I was going to skip 5.3 but got it in the end (it works perfectly) and will probably migrate to 6.1 unless I have to upgrade before it comes out.
SuSE ist (durch YaST) eigentlich eher wie M$ als RedHat ist. Ist mir egal - werde ich weiterhin benutzen, aber ohne RedHat niederzumachen. RedHat hat glibc forciert und wahrscheinlich die KDE Lizenzveränderung erzwungen.
Flames are for . . .
Yeah, I want to try!
Yup, reden zu, sprechen mit. I guess I'm glad that I had to take 3 years of German in H.S. SuSE is a nice dist, kind of Slackware++.
Are you completely stupid or just poking fun?
Win.ini is a text file containing system settings. You can read it with a text-editor. Most Unix configuration files are also text, so you can manipulate them with a text editor. THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT IS "GREAT" ABOUT BOTH UNIX CONFIGURATION FILES AND WIN.INI in that they are portable, readable, and modifiable. Try opening the windows registry in GNU Emacs!
YaST is not a fucking text file you MORON. It's a system configuration tool just like linuxconf on Redhat or Admintool in Solaris or SMIT in AIX.
Grow up. Unix is always evolving. If you wanna stop PRETENDING to be a purist, get yourself a copy of Programmers Workbench and an old VAX.
Happy Hacking!
If that manual is anything like my SuSE 5.2
manual, it's next to useless.
It is translated, poorly, from unformal German.
It is not a high-quality reference manual.
Who puts smileys in technical writing?
SuSE is not for newbies. Their software may be
very good, but until I get more Linux experience,
I'll be sticking with Red Hat.
It's a version leap to glibc. The "2.2 ready" is merely something they're doing because they expect the 2.2.0 kernel to be released sometime this quarter. Considering that not much will change from 2.1.130 (shipped alternative kernel) to 2.2.0, I doubt they'll make a major version for the kernel change. Which is, I think, the way it should be; the kernel is a fundamental piece of code, but not one that most people really see every day.
I doubt they would've mentioned it, except that 5.3 was *not* 2.2 ready; in order to upgrade to a development kernel (2.1.125), I had to upgrade almost as much stuff as the DIY install that I've been using most, which has been around for about two years, was based on Slackware (3.1?), and hasn't had much upgraded besides the kernel, except for things that had problems. (For example, it still uses sendmail 8.7.5, because I'm only on dynamic IP, and everyone who has access to the box has root access. Not to mention, sendmail's only used for outgoing; incoming is POP3.)
What does finger have to do with daylight savings time? That sounds like a timezone setting to me. (not saying you couldn't had a problem, just saying it sounds like you fixed the wrong place.)
One would probably expect the whois to be for europe, considering; still, I'd send them complaint mail about it, on the theory that if enough people complain about the various minor nuisances, they'll realize whois should probably be based on timezone, or some other suggestive factor.
Hmm, wouldn't debian be under the "close to everything" section. Like what does suse have that it is missing?
Posted by BreCorr:
...
really strange. I personally will wait till
SuSE 6.1 before picking it up
No, You neednt even download the books English version. Its on the CDs. Just have to print it! :-O)
(+500 pages
Is it penis envy, or just a lack of balls that produces comments like this?
I haven't figured this one out. I guess you have to be a non-USA person to understand.
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.
- W. Wriston, former Citibank CEO
Think before you write. Its just time for their quarterly update. You can get 6.1 in spring. If they would always wait until this or that program/kernel is ready for release, they would wait infinite.
Regards Tobias
--
Like it, Change it or Leave it.
Though I happen to like the SuSE distro, I find the version leap to a "2.2 ready" 6.0 version more than sucky. M$ methods.
...who wants to learn German for the sole purpose of being able to get the latest version of S.U.S.E. right when it comes out? Ach, mein Leiderhosen!
I think I'll learn Spanish first, though, so I can finally understand all the lyrics on my Poncho Sanchez and Tito Puente albums.
-Eric
I've used SuSE 5.2, and found it very good ( the version
of KDE included was less than stable, tho ) I often recommend
it for new users, as I've found Red Hat to be less well
organized ( no flames please, just my opinion. How can
I recommend / help with a dist. I don't personally use or like? )
I can see myself picking this up soon...
The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.
I see it in the list of contents, but it's not on the ftp site. What gives?! Whaaagghhhh!
I've become a big SuSE fan over the past few months, largely due to the convenience of the Yast text-based configuration tool. Configuration utilities are easily circumnavigated for do-it-yerselfers, and I absolutely LOVE the way it sniffs out dependencies for packages during software installs and/or upgrades. Its install process is nice, but needs to give new users a bit more prompting as far as "what do I do next?". They are perhaps relying on the user to closely read the manual during install, which is fine, but strikes me as unneccessary. Look to Slackware (I think) for the ultimate 'directed' install. Slackware prompts the user at every step, but the user can always go elsewhere if they so choose.
Red Hat has good configuration utilites for the command line as well, but I keep forgetting what they're called. It would be a nice and fairly easy devel. effort, (I think) to gather them together under one master utility.
I was also a bit disappointed with Red Hats $30 off-the-shelf package containing only a single cd, plus one more full of demos I'll never use. (That's just me, tho'). GLINT is also fairly annoying and LONG overdue for an upgrade. Choosing a source install directory should be a quick and simple point and click procedure.
IN PRAISE of Red Hat, however, they get ALL the credit (as far as I'm concerned) for bravely sticking to their guns by using GLIBC, fueling and encouraging development to the point where all the OTHER distros now feel it is safe to use. Someone had to be the first, and in so doing, Red Hat was (is) pivotal in hastening its development.
**>>BELCH
The server is in the new XF86 3.3.3 code, apparently. Apologies for not doing better research.
**>>BELCH
I cannot judge the author's knowledge of German (because I don't speak it myself), but his post does have a valid point (although greatly exaggerated). SuSE is definitely superior to RedHat. I tried both distros and I liked SuSE much more. I found RedHat to be quite buggy and misconfigured which gave me an impression that it was a quick hack rather then a Linux distribution. But comparing RedHat to M$ is definitely a stretch...
___
If you think big enough, you'll never have to do it.
ROW (Rest Of the World) users may notice that SuSE includes strong crypto products (128 bit SSL, 3DES SSH etc.) which can be exported anywhere. I think it is really nice to provide Apache with SSL and PHP built-in.
Translation: SuSE is (because of YaST) rather more like M$ than RedHat. I don't care--I will keep using it, but without putting RedHat down. RedHat has pushed glibc and probably forced the KDE licence change.
BTW, all Germans insisting on native language, please go to Schrägstrichpunkt instead, yes?
Ehm. Why is it searching for topicsuse.gif?
The revolution will be mocked
Though currently its using 2.0.36 if you read further into the webpage and look at the new 'features' they state that just d/l 2.2.0 when it comes out, compile and reboot... and it should work =]
If you haven't tried SuSE before... do so now... with 5 cds and a 400 page manual you can't go wrong.
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The really wonderfull thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.
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