PIXAR Renderman was natively standard within NeXTSTEP and Openstep. The latest versions of course withstanding solely based upon Steve's licensing issues- he owned both companies afterall.
Does the stuff work within MacOS X? YES. Is it available for public purchase? NO.
Business case need is the delay, not the technology.
Being a former employee at NeXT and Apple Enterprise yes this wonderful NXHost capability is a nice modern transition.
Now if you'll recall NeXSTEP 3.x to Openstep 4.2 ran $799 per Single-user copy and Developer added an additional $4999.
We won't even begin to mention the Hierarchical structure costs of WebObjects during the 2.x and 3.x days before the 4.x days of lower pricing arrived and server deployments costs of $50,000 unlimited dumped to $699.
I would say this is a fair price. Afterall, the cost to run that Black Hardware or SPARC or even Gecko HP PA-RISC 700 based workstations was steep.
Do I ever hope the folks in Cupertino roll out an Enteprise and Mid-level rackserver hardware set of options.
What many folks are unaware since they did not have the pleasure of working at NeXT and then later Apple is that Apple still has a ways to go with maturing QuickTime and merging some cool NeXTTime stuff- some of which is already in MacOSX since its how it got to port it so readily in the first place.
What will be a change for sure is if Steve finally goes for it and lets the Cocoa/Objective-C version of QuickTime with all the NeXTTime stuff merged into it instead of continuing using just the Carbon stuff.
Go to www.mosr.com and see there latest rumors as to what Apple intends to do with this new 24inch and how they plan to phase out CRT's and offer a fleet of LCD's from 15 to 24.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/27/terabe am/index.html
Just making sure that the link is correct. There was white space inside the word terabeam.. terabe am.
http://www.terabeam.com/our/
This is Optical IP over in Seattle.
This site has some more information on how they do it and whether we are just flooding the Airways with more shit.
Well if you actually worked at NeXT and the Apple when Steve made that exchange you would know more information than what you claim to know.
The bottom line was a win win for both sides and now that Apple has the opportunity to thrash out some folks who spunge off of them I say more power to them.
Innovation is the challenge, honor is Key.
They did SUE and WON! If you had worked at NeXT or Apple when M$ forked over $150 Million it wasn't because Steve and Bill are best buds. Its acceptance of Patent violations by M$ and in the deal M$ promised to release 4 Major Revisions of Office for Mac which in the end they get Millions back in sales of the Office Product Suite and get Apple's new band of lawyers from NeXT off their asses and a Multi-billion Dollar Lawsuit closed.
Bottom-line It is Great to have your Ideas admired and even inspired but blatantly Copied is simply put Dickless and If you don't have the Vision to Create something that others want to Spunge off of you then realize you don't have that talent and move on.
If you do have that Talent and think its Okay for everyone to Sponge off of you then by all means it is your Right to let that happen, just as it is Apple's Rights to Protect their R&D.
Having worked at NeXT from May '96 through the merger and then Apple before leaving in May '98 for personal family reasons I can tell you that Steve had a team of the best engineers showing the potential of NeXT technologies in action and how these technologies would re-invent Apple. The rest is history.
What I remember with the grapevine besides BeOS not being able to do what NeXT technologies can was that Jean-Louis Gassée wanted $100 million and control over all Technical operations at Apple.
I guess that was just not part of being bought out.
I know everyone prides themselves in knowing a bit about a company, but after working for both NeXT and Apple and going to WWDC for the past 3 years, with 2 years of it working I can clarify several issues. 1. Quartz is PDF primitives written in Objective-C and C and C++ with the best of QuickDraw concepts to access hardware acceleration and moreso. It is extremely once more forward thinking but this time it is smarter than DPS in the sense it is based on PDF with anti-aliasing built-in amongst other goodies. I like the fact that MacOS X will be the first OS to have a basic foundation file type on XML. Interface Builder NIB files are XML based in Cocoa amongst other goodies. 2. Go to WWDC 2000 to answer these overkill questions. 3. Having Icons scale at the User's leisure from 32x32 up to 128x128 kicks ass. That should satisfy end users with extremely clear eye sight to extremely poor eye sight. 4. POSIX compliancy? Well that is up to Engineering if they want to submit there system for Government certification. NeXTSTEP was and I will say if necessary (meaning if the market for Government work on MacOS X is there) then MacOS X will be as well. 5. Running on Intel, SPARC, AMD, etc. is a good question. MacOS X was originally brought up in parallel on Intel with PPC. So what do you think? Its not about Porting capabilities. It is about Business scope and market focus. This is not about showing the world a prettier and smoother and all around better LINUX experience on all types of Hardware. Its about providing a superior solution technologically in the most simplistic yet aesthetically pleasing ever developed and on hardware that combined conveys to the consumer interested in purchasing a solution that Apple offers the greatest return on investment in the Market, period. WindowServer is good lord not based on X11. Never will and I being an ex-NeXT personnel in SQA and other areas are ecstatic and confident that Apple with its Engineering Staff and Industrial Design team will give Steve nothing but "Insanely Great Solutions"
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PIXAR Renderman was natively standard within NeXTSTEP and Openstep. The latest versions of course withstanding solely based upon Steve's licensing issues- he owned both companies afterall.
Does the stuff work within MacOS X? YES. Is it available for public purchase? NO.
Business case need is the delay, not the technology.
Being a former employee at NeXT and Apple Enterprise yes this wonderful NXHost capability is a nice modern transition.
Now if you'll recall NeXSTEP 3.x to Openstep 4.2 ran $799 per Single-user copy and Developer added an additional $4999.
We won't even begin to mention the Hierarchical structure costs of WebObjects during the 2.x and 3.x days before the 4.x days of lower pricing arrived and server deployments costs of $50,000 unlimited dumped to $699.
I would say this is a fair price. Afterall, the cost to run that Black Hardware or SPARC or even Gecko HP PA-RISC 700 based workstations was steep.
Do I ever hope the folks in Cupertino roll out an Enteprise and Mid-level rackserver hardware set of options.
What many folks are unaware since they did not have the pleasure of working at NeXT and then later Apple is that Apple still has a ways to go with maturing QuickTime and merging some cool NeXTTime stuff- some of which is already in MacOSX since its how it got to port it so readily in the first place.
What will be a change for sure is if Steve finally goes for it and lets the Cocoa/Objective-C version of QuickTime with all the NeXTTime stuff merged into it instead of continuing using just the Carbon stuff.
Go to www.mosr.com and see there latest rumors as to what Apple intends to do with this new 24inch and how they plan to phase out CRT's and offer a fleet of LCD's from 15 to 24.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/27/terabe am/index.html
Just making sure that the link is correct. There was white space inside the word terabeam.. terabe am.
http://www.terabeam.com/our/ This is Optical IP over in Seattle. This site has some more information on how they do it and whether we are just flooding the Airways with more shit.
Well if you actually worked at NeXT and the Apple when Steve made that exchange you would know more information than what you claim to know. The bottom line was a win win for both sides and now that Apple has the opportunity to thrash out some folks who spunge off of them I say more power to them. Innovation is the challenge, honor is Key.
They did SUE and WON! If you had worked at NeXT or Apple when M$ forked over $150 Million it wasn't because Steve and Bill are best buds. Its acceptance of Patent violations by M$ and in the deal M$ promised to release 4 Major Revisions of Office for Mac which in the end they get Millions back in sales of the Office Product Suite and get Apple's new band of lawyers from NeXT off their asses and a Multi-billion Dollar Lawsuit closed. Bottom-line It is Great to have your Ideas admired and even inspired but blatantly Copied is simply put Dickless and If you don't have the Vision to Create something that others want to Spunge off of you then realize you don't have that talent and move on. If you do have that Talent and think its Okay for everyone to Sponge off of you then by all means it is your Right to let that happen, just as it is Apple's Rights to Protect their R&D.
Having worked at NeXT from May '96 through the merger and then Apple before leaving in May '98 for personal family reasons I can tell you that Steve had a team of the best engineers showing the potential of NeXT technologies in action and how these technologies would re-invent Apple. The rest is history. What I remember with the grapevine besides BeOS not being able to do what NeXT technologies can was that Jean-Louis Gassée wanted $100 million and control over all Technical operations at Apple. I guess that was just not part of being bought out.
Excuse my lack of grammar checking and run on sentences.
I know everyone prides themselves in knowing a bit about a company, but after working for both NeXT and Apple and going to WWDC for the past 3 years, with 2 years of it working I can clarify several issues. 1. Quartz is PDF primitives written in Objective-C and C and C++ with the best of QuickDraw concepts to access hardware acceleration and moreso. It is extremely once more forward thinking but this time it is smarter than DPS in the sense it is based on PDF with anti-aliasing built-in amongst other goodies. I like the fact that MacOS X will be the first OS to have a basic foundation file type on XML. Interface Builder NIB files are XML based in Cocoa amongst other goodies. 2. Go to WWDC 2000 to answer these overkill questions. 3. Having Icons scale at the User's leisure from 32x32 up to 128x128 kicks ass. That should satisfy end users with extremely clear eye sight to extremely poor eye sight. 4. POSIX compliancy? Well that is up to Engineering if they want to submit there system for Government certification. NeXTSTEP was and I will say if necessary (meaning if the market for Government work on MacOS X is there) then MacOS X will be as well. 5. Running on Intel, SPARC, AMD, etc. is a good question. MacOS X was originally brought up in parallel on Intel with PPC. So what do you think? Its not about Porting capabilities. It is about Business scope and market focus. This is not about showing the world a prettier and smoother and all around better LINUX experience on all types of Hardware. Its about providing a superior solution technologically in the most simplistic yet aesthetically pleasing ever developed and on hardware that combined conveys to the consumer interested in purchasing a solution that Apple offers the greatest return on investment in the Market, period. WindowServer is good lord not based on X11. Never will and I being an ex-NeXT personnel in SQA and other areas are ecstatic and confident that Apple with its Engineering Staff and Industrial Design team will give Steve nothing but "Insanely Great Solutions"