Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but in order for a company to put a black mark on your credit history, I believe that they have to be able to prove that they did due dilligence in attempting to get you to pay back any default.
If MS does not attempt to contact you and get the money back, then they are on shakey grounds with dinging people (especially if they do it to hundreds of people at once). Following this logic, if you are in threat of being dinged, then you will know about it first, and have the opportunity to deal with it before it happens.
So, Coffee Man, I am curious to know, how have you arrived at the conclusion that MSN will black mark people who quit early?
Its all real as far as I can tell so far. Here's what happened:
I did the MSN deal yesterday. The girl at the Best Buy cash register thought she messed up with the transaction since she kept getting an error message while trying to setup my account. So, she (thought) she cancelled the first try, and then started over.
Last night I realized that I had gotten two accounts since my receipt gave me the login of her first attempt. I was able to login using the first account. I called MS and they verified that I had been signed up for two accounts (I unfortunately only got $400 out of it - ONLY, that's funny).
When I told the MS operator the story and told her that I didn't want a $22 charge for the second account, she said, you won't be charged since you are cancelling it. Then she said, "but you'll have to pay MSN back the $400 credit". When I told her I was from CA she said, "Oh! Then you're fine. No problems."
She closed the (second) account without further questions.
Lessons:
1) You CAN cancel without any penalty 2) If you do you do not need to pay back the $400 3) They don't seem to be verifying that you are not signing up for multiple accounts (I did it by accident. Same name, address, credit card, etc.)
This is the golden goose gang. But if you run the software (we are after all being payed to at least look) watch out what MSN puts on your computer. I have no proof yet, but I'm almost positive that it scanned my system and then attempted to send a report to MS.If I was dialed in through MSN then they could now have my name, address, soc sec #, credit card #, system hardware config, OS version, what apps are on my system, and my Windows serial number. Usefull to MS I'd say.
I remember reading somewhere, in between flipping pages about nano-machines, that if we disregard transcendence (i.e. the existence of a soul separate from the body) and posit that the mind is contained in the brain -- then by definition the mind cannot completely understand how the brain works. To clarify -- if the brain and mind are indeed one, then the mind/brain cannot completely know itself. I can't for the life of me find the book I read this in, so for all I know it could be a meme.
I can't claim to have read Blackmore's book, but I did take a look at The Dancing Wu-Li Masters and I suspect her work is in a similar vein (based on what I've gathered from this discussion). This is stuff graduate students talk about when they're stoned (at least those I know), it's rather amusing to see it published.
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but in order for a company to put a black mark on your credit history, I believe that they have to be able to prove that they did due dilligence in attempting to get you to pay back any default.
If MS does not attempt to contact you and get the money back, then they are on shakey grounds with dinging people (especially if they do it to hundreds of people at once). Following this logic, if you are in threat of being dinged, then you will know about it first, and have the opportunity to deal with it before it happens.
So, Coffee Man, I am curious to know, how have you arrived at the conclusion that MSN will black mark people who quit early?
Ooow. That blows. Is this just at one store? Office Max has always had only the mail in rebate. Did they change the actual contract?
What a bummer! Can anybody else confirm this?
Its all real as far as I can tell so far. Here's what happened:
I did the MSN deal yesterday. The girl at the Best Buy cash register thought she messed up with the transaction since she kept getting an error message while trying to setup my account. So, she (thought) she cancelled the first try, and then started over.
Last night I realized that I had gotten two accounts since my receipt gave me the login of her first attempt. I was able to login using the first account. I called MS and they verified that I had been signed up for two accounts (I unfortunately only got $400 out of it - ONLY, that's funny).
When I told the MS operator the story and told her that I didn't want a $22 charge for the second account, she said, you won't be charged since you are cancelling it. Then she said, "but you'll have to pay MSN back the $400 credit". When I told her I was from CA she said, "Oh! Then you're fine. No problems."
She closed the (second) account without further questions.
Lessons:
1) You CAN cancel without any penalty
2) If you do you do not need to pay back the $400
3) They don't seem to be verifying that you are not signing up for multiple accounts (I did it by accident. Same name, address, credit card, etc.)
This is the golden goose gang. But if you run the software (we are after all being payed to at least look) watch out what MSN puts on your computer. I have no proof yet, but I'm almost positive that it scanned my system and then attempted to send a report to MS.If I was dialed in through MSN then they could now have my name, address, soc sec #, credit card #, system hardware config, OS version, what apps are on my system, and my Windows serial number. Usefull to MS I'd say.
Sorry so long. Lots of usefull info I hope.
I remember reading somewhere, in between flipping pages about nano-machines, that if we disregard transcendence (i.e. the existence of a soul separate from the body) and posit that the mind is contained in the brain -- then by definition the mind cannot completely understand how the brain works. To clarify -- if the brain and mind are indeed one, then the mind/brain cannot completely know itself. I can't for the life of me find the book I read this in, so for all I know it could be a meme.
I can't claim to have read Blackmore's book, but I did take a look at The Dancing Wu-Li Masters and I suspect her work is in a similar vein (based on what I've gathered from this discussion). This is stuff graduate students talk about when they're stoned (at least those I know), it's rather amusing to see it published.