Yes, Oracle provides tons of jobs. But where the hell are you getting Dublin from?
Ireland has more people below poverty than anyone would like to admit. There are a few cities (Dublin in particular) that are well off, that the majority of people are above the poverty line. But what about the other 10 million people in Ireland that are not in Dublin?
And besides, it's really stupid logic:
Well, they have companies x,y,z, and q so if we shut down q then it doesn't matter.
The point is, Guinness provides jobs for a country that has a huge unemployment rate - cutting Guinness down isn't going to help that.
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't more than idle talks, in the couple hundred years that Guinness has been brewing they've held an active stance of supporting the Irish market - making the beer 100% Irish. Irish farms to Irish beer.
If you are from Ireland, travel out of Dublin.
If you aren't.. I'm sure you've been walking throught he streets.. through the cities, and have seen a bunch of happy folks.
Oh wait, then you look and you see a new mural of a bird breaking through cages and you realize it was the mural dedicated (Last Friday) to the hunger strike of 1980 to try to stop the continuing injustices and come to a peaceful treaty of wrongfully imprisoned men. A hunger strike, people starved. It may be necessary again, talks are coming about as the Good Friday Agreement seems to be collapsing.
I'm saying don't boycott a company as long as it isn't doing anything wrong.
Competition is good, it is needed
Mindless, dickless piece of shits purposefully trying to confuse legit web traffic is neither good nor needed.
Wrong
He has a right to speak his opinion, absolutely. We're not talking about opinions, we're talking about domain names. I was talking about Boycotts specifically.
Look, I dont know what you think a domain name is supposed to be, but it is not for illustrating your dumbass protected freedom of speech. If you want to do that go to geocities and get yourself a free home page and it's perfectly fine.
We're not talking about free speech, we're talking about domain names. People in opposition of Guinness aren't supporters of free speech, they are supporters of typo-squaters, and domain-squaters. It's just because of the method that your beloved Slashdot authors wrote about that caused the Slashdot witch-hunt-crew to go to full-scale alert against Guinness without even reading any of the facts.
The guy was a troll, he was a domain squatter. He got up on a soap box and admitted to registering the domain names just to piss them off.
This is the type of guy you want to protect?
And you are absolutely wrong, boycotting Guiness isn't going to do anything but hurt the Irish workers - they don't fund US contra's. They fund Irish farmers for their goods.
Amen to that!
I'm actually really glad that this turned out more pro-Guinness then against. I avidly support Guinness on this just on the grounds the guy was being a little prick with no motivation other than just to register the domain to piss them off.
First, I have to commend your rational argument. So many people respond to my post saying that they have a right to speech, he should be able to say as loud as he wants it sucks, that is true.
I'm glad you pointed out domain names are navigation tools. Domain names are not for public statements, that is web pages. Domain names are purely navigational tools. Also, if he would have had web pages instead of click-throughs and ads and what not, the claim would not legally hold up I don't think.
Parody is protected, and I think it should be - if someone has guinness-sucks.com and actually had a web page documenting why it sucks I wouldn't complain either.
Thanks for being rational.
I'm thinking beerthatsucks.com/guinness would be perfectly valid. Domain names are different than other words, forgetting about the trademark and that.
This guy was admittingly trying to confuse people, be a complete prick, and was a domain squatter.
He is wrong
The whole problem is people are assholes, in particular americans in my opinion
And corporations *legally* are treated as an individual, therefor they do deserve the same protection as an individual person.
I think that's a-ok..
And if you think it's perfectly fine to insult people for no reason other then their lifestyle is different then yours, I feel sorry for your children if you have them.. and if you don't I hope it stays that way.. Don't perpetuate the close-minded bigotry way of life.
Guinness is not trying to prevent that, are you blind you nimrod?
The guy admits to choosing confusing domain names.. he admits that! Guinness is protecting their valid interests not being a tyrannical blood thirsty corporation.
Then, here we have a new precedent for owning words and such.
Linux is a REGISTERED TRADEMARK. That is a word, now go ahead and use linux in a commercial application with out Linus Torvalds consent and see how far you get.
In a way it does give you monopoly over a word.. It seems you really have no clue what you are talking about...
He was assaulting Guinness - sticks and stones yes, but he was doing damage.
Granted, maybe it was hypothetical damage that hadn't surfaced, maybe there was already damage. You have the right of free speech, that is fine.. but there is a line where freedom of speech shackles who you are speaking against. This is that case. Guiness has a right to do what they are doing. Both legally, and morally I think. Boycotting them for protecting their business is stupid. Why don't they just start giving their beer away for free then?
Think about the poor employee's this will trickle down too..Think about their children. If you are American, chances are you wouldn't understand what it's like to see 6 year olds starving and begging for food because you are American and are rich. Ireland has a lot of economic problems and Guiness gives them jobs. You boycotting Guiness isn't going to hurt the company. It's going to hurt those people. Guinness is a company.. don't get mad at a company for being a company. If you've ever seen Natural Born Killers.. remember the story..
A woman found a wounded rattle snake, and took it in and nursed it back to health. When the snake was healthy it bit the lady. As she died of the poison she asked the snake why. The snake replied, "Look bitch, you knew I was a snake."
A company is a company, they have obligations in business. In a perfect world they wouldn't have them - but if people are going to be pricks and they can stop it, it seems pretty stupid to not stop it?
I'm speaking of a different usage. They are violating documented laws in usage of domain names.
However, guinness-fans.com Guinness can turn their heads on.. but a negative guinness site they can nail because it isn't what Guinness wants, and they are the deciding factor here.
People have a right to be assholes, that's fine. But not at the sake of another entities property. They are using Guinness property (the trademark) to slander and abuse Guinness. "You have the right to swing your first until it hits my nose " -- well, he just hit Guinness' nose.. and you are trying to say that's ok?? Listen to yourself, and really think about it. He is assaulting Guinness.. and that isn't right. There are laws to prevent this, and it's full intent is malicious. I dont understand why you are actually opposed to it.. it really is beyond me.
My point is defending the legal portion, there is the possibility for consumer confusion. And besides, there are guinness sites that aren't in English..
Search for guinness
Return guinness-really-sucks.com
Title is just "Guinness".. Mr. International-User-Who-Doesn't-Speak-English goes to the site to see if it is a valid Guinness site that could be international and have the native language.
That is confusion, plain and simple.. it can happen and is therefore legally binding and they have legal precedence.
You hit it almost straight on.
Guinness is shipped by region, and made by different breweries by which region it is going for. You will get a completely different type of Guinness in California then you would in Australia.
There are a total of 19 variations of Guinness, while it's all grown in Ireland.. they save the best stuff for themselves:)
Check out for the full specs.
St. James Gate will give you the best, so if you are ever in Ireland.. stop there if you like stouts:)
How about giving then money for many more things that are beneficial.
Take a look at the Ireland economy, where apartheid is still in existence (yes, think South Africa)
Jobs are hard to come by, but Guiness is one more company that supplies them.. but hey boycott them for protecting their trademark - maybe because of your actions you can even lay off a few dozen workers that go back to poverty.
Why don't you send them a letter saying, "I don't approve of this" and explain why instead of trying to damage their revenue. It's not like they didn't have a good leg to stand on here, it is a clear-cut case here.. I support the decision, try not to be a slashdot sheep and realize the little guy was just being a prick in this case.
heh.. the bad thing is that I was trying to figure out how ICANN was involved.. looking stuff up and was lost.. I thought the train left and I was still packing.
I hope you get a company some day..
you go international..then, some customer support chimp goes and pisses some guy off..
Then they start a rally against your company, but because of your devotion you cannot protect your trademark from unauthorized use that you don't agree with.
Then, your lawyers pursue it and someone reminds you of this slashdot post and you realize you are a hypocrite.
Guinness isn't doing anything wrong - and the fact is they are a MAJOR international company, and I can think of a non-english speaker thinking guinness-sucks.com would be a website about how to drink guinness or something... that could be clear confusion right there.. but hey, there is only one language in the world right?
Damn the bitter and closed minded, for their actions perpetuate the governmental control.
I'm going against the grain here.. I know..
What the hell is this guys problem? Registering a slew of domain names against a beer company? Not only does this ring of some weird anger management problems but he is using their trademark, their name - and that should be protected to an extent.
I don't think either party is in the right here, but Guiness is protecting their name.. and c'mon - guinness-really-sucks.com could show up on a Guinness receipe search hit or something, and that is misleading.. so I really have no qualms against people losing their maliciously created domain names. Domain names should not be used to get even at a company you feel has wronged you..
Open up your mind a bit, understand that Guinness is not a big hungry evil corporation bent on screwing the little guy but a corporation trying to make money and protecting their trademark. Granted, I would have a different view if it was say.. Colgate or something - but two separate companies..
What about people like me?
I hit the same tax bracket for those $50mil/year CEO's so I'm paying out the nose for taxes
But I live in a place that is so expensive that by the time the government eats up most of my check and then I pay rent I have less entertainment money then back when I was starting out, sharing a little apartment.. that's just stupid.
I know it's my choice to live here, but circumstances gave me two choices: paying over $2000 a month for an apartment, or being homeless.
Which one would you take? If a CEO is making $50mil a year, that means he did something right. Dont punish him for it. If the government didn't have so many damned departments outside of what it *should* be doing for the american people it wouldn't matter if he made $30K or $50M.. It's not the rich corporate types that are the problem, it is a goverment that doesn't know it's bounds.
The primary problem I have with your argument is that even Nadar wants government to have power
This is absolutely wrong by the definition of government of the USA. Why can't the federal government just provide defense, and postal services?
Tell me what is so bloody wrong with that? Nadar just said to tax the things that are not honest labor - government is crossing it's bounds. Sure, go vote for your different government, that's fine.. but don't cry when it's just the same old government pulling different tricks.
As for myself, I could give a shit less about Rocko the homeless guy who is able to work but panhandling is easier so he does it and collects welfare.
I think that for welfare to be collected, you should have to provide medical evidence of your inability to work or at least 3 rejection letters as to why you didn't get a job flipping burgers at McDonalds
It's easy to get a job, it's really easy. Anybody who says it's not is lazy and has too much pride to be accountable for their own stupid mistakes.
Bullshit bullshit bullshit. It's not my responsibility - but I get forced to pay so bloody much so Rocko can constantly get my money. He's cheating the people who need help.. let him starve, if it means someone who needs help gets it.
Yeah I'm cold.. so what.. some people need to be that way to get things done. Until a person like that is in a position of power it's gonna be the same old shit, with the same old tricks.
Maybe I'm just bitter, but looking at my yearly tax summary and seeing that the money I pay in taxes in a year could pay for a complete college education for my kids - and I'm talking *good* schools.. Ivy leage not your local community college.
(Granted, I dont have kids.. but I will at some point).
Cheap enough for free?
Bah, look at all the cool stuff you get..
A barcode scanner
A marital aid
A good time harassing the Radio Shack employee
Thousands of minutes spent thinking, "What can I waste my time doing with this thing?"
Hours of Slashdot stories updating the idiocy of DC and their marketing strategy
Being embraced by DC's approach of loving the linux hackers
heh.. I found that it just looked to ridiculous to use it myself.. but it has provided me with a lot of laughter.
Human power?
For the majority, we're programmers.. we sit on our asses for most of the day.. if you could rig something to run power off our fingers in a non-obtrusive way that'd be good. Anything else I think we'd end up walking just to power the device.. that'd be a strange world.
Can't stop moving, computer will die
Can't stop moving, computer will die ...
heheh..
For anybody that is interested
I won. As of 8:56:14 Eastern Standard Time, the nerdfarm.org domain name was modified and pointing to a functional server.
For those of you who dont know, nerdfarm.org is a community discussion forum that is still under development but is mostly functional. If you are interested check back to nerdfarm.org in a couple of days, and I'll get the about document posted up there.
You can use another registrar as your army against NSI actually.
If you look at register.com's page they have forms about transferring from NSI or anyother domain name. You give register.com the forms they need (and sign over control of the domain to them) and they work with NSI to get it changed and you just have to pay register.com a new registration fee. I am still trying to pull together the right documents for this.
Good luck
I'm thinking you may have had a fortunately coincidental good experience with them.
They refused to acknowledge my first fax on the basis that it did not properly prove my identity. I fax it again after talking to a customer service representative and he said it was lost so he couldn't verify it. That one was lost too. I faxed it again -- same document, and that one went through. 2 days later I get an email saying they updated my contact record.
The next day it still wasn't updated. Sent another email, never got a response and on the 3rd day it was updated - that was from a Monday to a Friday, 5 days it took them.
Now that I have my updated contact record, my domain is still not being updated and when I last attempted to resubmit my change request (today) I got a response saying the changes where pending even though on Monday I got a response saying the account was changed. Tuesday I get another response saying that I have to fax them the authorization again.. This is just stupid.
And that isn't even going into the process of events leading up to this which was even more painful - but I'll post those emails at some point later on.
Either way, I've done everything they have documented and told me to do and I still do not have my domain working, after 2.5 months of trying. It really is unacceptable practice in my opinion. Goes to show you why they have lost 60% of their market share, if they had a decent service I'm sure a lot of people would stay with them. Last time I register anything throgh them though, and I hope I'm making an impact to reduce another half a percent of their market share because they really deserve it.
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Yes, Oracle provides tons of jobs. But where the hell are you getting Dublin from?
Ireland has more people below poverty than anyone would like to admit. There are a few cities (Dublin in particular) that are well off, that the majority of people are above the poverty line. But what about the other 10 million people in Ireland that are not in Dublin?
And besides, it's really stupid logic:
Well, they have companies x,y,z, and q so if we shut down q then it doesn't matter.
The point is, Guinness provides jobs for a country that has a huge unemployment rate - cutting Guinness down isn't going to help that.
I'd be very surprised if it wasn't more than idle talks, in the couple hundred years that Guinness has been brewing they've held an active stance of supporting the Irish market - making the beer 100% Irish. Irish farms to Irish beer. If you are from Ireland, travel out of Dublin.
If you aren't.. I'm sure you've been walking throught he streets.. through the cities, and have seen a bunch of happy folks.
Oh wait, then you look and you see a new mural of a bird breaking through cages and you realize it was the mural dedicated (Last Friday) to the hunger strike of 1980 to try to stop the continuing injustices and come to a peaceful treaty of wrongfully imprisoned men. A hunger strike, people starved. It may be necessary again, talks are coming about as the Good Friday Agreement seems to be collapsing.
I'm saying don't boycott a company as long as it isn't doing anything wrong.
Competition is good, it is needed
Mindless, dickless piece of shits purposefully trying to confuse legit web traffic is neither good nor needed.
He has a right to speak his opinion, absolutely. We're not talking about opinions, we're talking about domain names. I was talking about Boycotts specifically.
Look, I dont know what you think a domain name is supposed to be, but it is not for illustrating your dumbass protected freedom of speech. If you want to do that go to geocities and get yourself a free home page and it's perfectly fine.
We're not talking about free speech, we're talking about domain names. People in opposition of Guinness aren't supporters of free speech, they are supporters of typo-squaters, and domain-squaters. It's just because of the method that your beloved Slashdot authors wrote about that caused the Slashdot witch-hunt-crew to go to full-scale alert against Guinness without even reading any of the facts.
The guy was a troll, he was a domain squatter. He got up on a soap box and admitted to registering the domain names just to piss them off.
This is the type of guy you want to protect?
And you are absolutely wrong, boycotting Guiness isn't going to do anything but hurt the Irish workers - they don't fund US contra's. They fund Irish farmers for their goods.
Amen to that!
I'm actually really glad that this turned out more pro-Guinness then against. I avidly support Guinness on this just on the grounds the guy was being a little prick with no motivation other than just to register the domain to piss them off.
First, I have to commend your rational argument. So many people respond to my post saying that they have a right to speech, he should be able to say as loud as he wants it sucks, that is true.
I'm glad you pointed out domain names are navigation tools. Domain names are not for public statements, that is web pages. Domain names are purely navigational tools. Also, if he would have had web pages instead of click-throughs and ads and what not, the claim would not legally hold up I don't think.
Parody is protected, and I think it should be - if someone has guinness-sucks.com and actually had a web page documenting why it sucks I wouldn't complain either.
Thanks for being rational.
I'm thinking beerthatsucks.com/guinness would be perfectly valid. Domain names are different than other words, forgetting about the trademark and that.
This guy was admittingly trying to confuse people, be a complete prick, and was a domain squatter.
He is wrong
And corporations *legally* are treated as an individual, therefor they do deserve the same protection as an individual person.
I think that's a-ok..
And if you think it's perfectly fine to insult people for no reason other then their lifestyle is different then yours, I feel sorry for your children if you have them.. and if you don't I hope it stays that way.. Don't perpetuate the close-minded bigotry way of life.
Guinness is not trying to prevent that, are you blind you nimrod?
The guy admits to choosing confusing domain names.. he admits that! Guinness is protecting their valid interests not being a tyrannical blood thirsty corporation.
Then, here we have a new precedent for owning words and such.
Linux is a REGISTERED TRADEMARK. That is a word, now go ahead and use linux in a commercial application with out Linus Torvalds consent and see how far you get.
In a way it does give you monopoly over a word.. It seems you really have no clue what you are talking about...
And only a slashdot troll would knokw what warm pond scum tastes like..
Granted, maybe it was hypothetical damage that hadn't surfaced, maybe there was already damage. You have the right of free speech, that is fine.. but there is a line where freedom of speech shackles who you are speaking against. This is that case. Guiness has a right to do what they are doing. Both legally, and morally I think. Boycotting them for protecting their business is stupid. Why don't they just start giving their beer away for free then?
Think about the poor employee's this will trickle down too..Think about their children. If you are American, chances are you wouldn't understand what it's like to see 6 year olds starving and begging for food because you are American and are rich. Ireland has a lot of economic problems and Guiness gives them jobs. You boycotting Guiness isn't going to hurt the company. It's going to hurt those people. Guinness is a company.. don't get mad at a company for being a company. If you've ever seen Natural Born Killers.. remember the story..
A woman found a wounded rattle snake, and took it in and nursed it back to health. When the snake was healthy it bit the lady. As she died of the poison she asked the snake why. The snake replied, "Look bitch, you knew I was a snake."
A company is a company, they have obligations in business. In a perfect world they wouldn't have them - but if people are going to be pricks and they can stop it, it seems pretty stupid to not stop it?
I'm speaking of a different usage. They are violating documented laws in usage of domain names.
However, guinness-fans.com Guinness can turn their heads on.. but a negative guinness site they can nail because it isn't what Guinness wants, and they are the deciding factor here.
People have a right to be assholes, that's fine. But not at the sake of another entities property. They are using Guinness property (the trademark) to slander and abuse Guinness. "You have the right to swing your first until it hits my nose " -- well, he just hit Guinness' nose.. and you are trying to say that's ok?? Listen to yourself, and really think about it. He is assaulting Guinness.. and that isn't right. There are laws to prevent this, and it's full intent is malicious. I dont understand why you are actually opposed to it.. it really is beyond me.
My point is defending the legal portion, there is the possibility for consumer confusion. And besides, there are guinness sites that aren't in English..
Search for guinness
Return guinness-really-sucks.com
Title is just "Guinness".. Mr. International-User-Who-Doesn't-Speak-English goes to the site to see if it is a valid Guinness site that could be international and have the native language.
That is confusion, plain and simple.. it can happen and is therefore legally binding and they have legal precedence.
You hit it almost straight on. :)
Check out for the full specs. :)
Guinness is shipped by region, and made by different breweries by which region it is going for. You will get a completely different type of Guinness in California then you would in Australia.
There are a total of 19 variations of Guinness, while it's all grown in Ireland.. they save the best stuff for themselves
St. James Gate will give you the best, so if you are ever in Ireland.. stop there if you like stouts
How about giving then money for many more things that are beneficial.
Take a look at the Ireland economy, where apartheid is still in existence (yes, think South Africa)
Jobs are hard to come by, but Guiness is one more company that supplies them.. but hey boycott them for protecting their trademark - maybe because of your actions you can even lay off a few dozen workers that go back to poverty.
Why don't you send them a letter saying, "I don't approve of this" and explain why instead of trying to damage their revenue. It's not like they didn't have a good leg to stand on here, it is a clear-cut case here.. I support the decision, try not to be a slashdot sheep and realize the little guy was just being a prick in this case.
heh.. the bad thing is that I was trying to figure out how ICANN was involved.. looking stuff up and was lost.. I thought the train left and I was still packing.
I hope you get a company some day..
you go international..then, some customer support chimp goes and pisses some guy off..
Then they start a rally against your company, but because of your devotion you cannot protect your trademark from unauthorized use that you don't agree with.
Then, your lawyers pursue it and someone reminds you of this slashdot post and you realize you are a hypocrite.
Guinness isn't doing anything wrong - and the fact is they are a MAJOR international company, and I can think of a non-english speaker thinking guinness-sucks.com would be a website about how to drink guinness or something... that could be clear confusion right there.. but hey, there is only one language in the world right?
Damn the bitter and closed minded, for their actions perpetuate the governmental control.
I'm going against the grain here.. I know..
What the hell is this guys problem? Registering a slew of domain names against a beer company? Not only does this ring of some weird anger management problems but he is using their trademark, their name - and that should be protected to an extent.
I don't think either party is in the right here, but Guiness is protecting their name.. and c'mon - guinness-really-sucks.com could show up on a Guinness receipe search hit or something, and that is misleading.. so I really have no qualms against people losing their maliciously created domain names. Domain names should not be used to get even at a company you feel has wronged you..
Open up your mind a bit, understand that Guinness is not a big hungry evil corporation bent on screwing the little guy but a corporation trying to make money and protecting their trademark. Granted, I would have a different view if it was say.. Colgate or something - but two separate companies..
What about people like me?
I hit the same tax bracket for those $50mil/year CEO's so I'm paying out the nose for taxes
But I live in a place that is so expensive that by the time the government eats up most of my check and then I pay rent I have less entertainment money then back when I was starting out, sharing a little apartment.. that's just stupid.
I know it's my choice to live here, but circumstances gave me two choices: paying over $2000 a month for an apartment, or being homeless.
Which one would you take? If a CEO is making $50mil a year, that means he did something right. Dont punish him for it. If the government didn't have so many damned departments outside of what it *should* be doing for the american people it wouldn't matter if he made $30K or $50M.. It's not the rich corporate types that are the problem, it is a goverment that doesn't know it's bounds.
The primary problem I have with your argument is that even Nadar wants government to have power
This is absolutely wrong by the definition of government of the USA. Why can't the federal government just provide defense, and postal services?
Tell me what is so bloody wrong with that? Nadar just said to tax the things that are not honest labor - government is crossing it's bounds. Sure, go vote for your different government, that's fine.. but don't cry when it's just the same old government pulling different tricks.
As for myself, I could give a shit less about Rocko the homeless guy who is able to work but panhandling is easier so he does it and collects welfare.
I think that for welfare to be collected, you should have to provide medical evidence of your inability to work or at least 3 rejection letters as to why you didn't get a job flipping burgers at McDonalds
It's easy to get a job, it's really easy. Anybody who says it's not is lazy and has too much pride to be accountable for their own stupid mistakes.
Bullshit bullshit bullshit. It's not my responsibility - but I get forced to pay so bloody much so Rocko can constantly get my money. He's cheating the people who need help.. let him starve, if it means someone who needs help gets it.
Yeah I'm cold.. so what.. some people need to be that way to get things done. Until a person like that is in a position of power it's gonna be the same old shit, with the same old tricks.
Maybe I'm just bitter, but looking at my yearly tax summary and seeing that the money I pay in taxes in a year could pay for a complete college education for my kids - and I'm talking *good* schools.. Ivy leage not your local community college.
(Granted, I dont have kids.. but I will at some point).
That was supposed to be:
Cheap enough for me?
But I'm having a moment of the stupids.
Cheap enough for free?
Bah, look at all the cool stuff you get..
A barcode scanner
A marital aid
A good time harassing the Radio Shack employee
Thousands of minutes spent thinking, "What can I waste my time doing with this thing?"
Hours of Slashdot stories updating the idiocy of DC and their marketing strategy
Being embraced by DC's approach of loving the linux hackers
heh.. I found that it just looked to ridiculous to use it myself.. but it has provided me with a lot of laughter.
Human power?
...
For the majority, we're programmers.. we sit on our asses for most of the day.. if you could rig something to run power off our fingers in a non-obtrusive way that'd be good. Anything else I think we'd end up walking just to power the device.. that'd be a strange world.
Can't stop moving, computer will die
Can't stop moving, computer will die
heheh..
For anybody that is interested
I won. As of 8:56:14 Eastern Standard Time, the nerdfarm.org domain name was modified and pointing to a functional server.
For those of you who dont know, nerdfarm.org is a community discussion forum that is still under development but is mostly functional. If you are interested check back to nerdfarm.org in a couple of days, and I'll get the about document posted up there.
You can use another registrar as your army against NSI actually.
If you look at register.com's page they have forms about transferring from NSI or anyother domain name. You give register.com the forms they need (and sign over control of the domain to them) and they work with NSI to get it changed and you just have to pay register.com a new registration fee. I am still trying to pull together the right documents for this.
Good luck
I'm thinking you may have had a fortunately coincidental good experience with them.
They refused to acknowledge my first fax on the basis that it did not properly prove my identity. I fax it again after talking to a customer service representative and he said it was lost so he couldn't verify it. That one was lost too. I faxed it again -- same document, and that one went through. 2 days later I get an email saying they updated my contact record.
The next day it still wasn't updated. Sent another email, never got a response and on the 3rd day it was updated - that was from a Monday to a Friday, 5 days it took them.
Now that I have my updated contact record, my domain is still not being updated and when I last attempted to resubmit my change request (today) I got a response saying the changes where pending even though on Monday I got a response saying the account was changed. Tuesday I get another response saying that I have to fax them the authorization again.. This is just stupid.
And that isn't even going into the process of events leading up to this which was even more painful - but I'll post those emails at some point later on.
Either way, I've done everything they have documented and told me to do and I still do not have my domain working, after 2.5 months of trying. It really is unacceptable practice in my opinion. Goes to show you why they have lost 60% of their market share, if they had a decent service I'm sure a lot of people would stay with them. Last time I register anything throgh them though, and I hope I'm making an impact to reduce another half a percent of their market share because they really deserve it.