Point being, a secure machine requires some level of system administration. Whether its not using windows like a fucktard, or running Linux. Less so with the mac, simply due to the reduced number of threats currently out there, and lack of services running by default.
Don't bother. Some people don't understand that hardware also encompasses the bits that you actually interact with. Like usable input peripherals on portable machines for example.
Find me a PC with a decent trackpad. And Windows doesn't do multiple desktops out of the box, has no equivalent to automator (folder actions are useful in particular), Windows constantly need to be manually refreshed because unlike the mac, they don't make use of value observation of their contents, etc.
What is funny is seeing PC / Linux user arguments that the mac offers nothing from people who have clearly never spent any time with it. I run Linux, OS X and Windows on a daily basis, and there's a reason I'm more than happy to pay what is required for apple hardware.
To give you an update: pc trackpads are still mostly garbage. tried an HP folio 13 MBA wannabe the other day and after 30 minutes there was permanent mark on the trackpad surface from use, and the click was too stiff and non-positive in engagement. Right and left click on different sides of the pad, and like most PC trackpads, prone to mouse cursor skipping unintentionally.
The day a PC maker actually figures out how to make a decent trackpad is the day I'll consider a non-apple notebook, but until then, no way. I still build my own PC desktops though.
Your angry birds example is neither a thin client app, or originally browser based. The ipad / modern tablet is not strictly a thin client device - it has a lot more processing power than desktops from a few years ago in a device much much smaller.
Everything old is new again. Back in the 80s and previous we all ran thin clients back to a mainframe. That sucked then, and thin clients back to "the cloud" will suck in comparison to what proper desktop hardware will be able to offer in future, too.
Compare an HP folio to an MBA and tell me which one is better value. From memory they're actually around the same price, and I've used both. The trackpad on the folio is garbage. It is not available with any other storage than a 128gb SSD, and has single channel memory.
Yup. The apple trackpad is worth paying for. Even if you're going to run windows on it. Carrying a mouse and keyboard around with your portable computer because the built in gear is awful is fucking retarded.
In other words, it is due to/. groupthink and nothing to do with the relevance of each post to the discussion at hand. Like most moderation here lately.
Most apple buyers are the vast majority of the tablet and ultrabook market it would appear. People iPads because they work, are supported for about 3 years, and because of the apps. People buy MBAs because the trackpad words, the battery life is good, and they are small. In terms of comparison products on the market with equal spec, both of those products are price competitive. Or they would not be selling in the numbers they are. Apple fans or not. Most of the i-Device and MBA users I know were not apple customers prior to those devices.
A windows box looked after by someone with half the clue required to maintain a linux box from upgrade to upgrade will not get viruses or trojans either. Of my fleet of 550 desktops in the past year we've had 2 cases of malware. And i haven't had to fix any hardware or software broken by a service pack, security update, etc.
WPA2 wifi security. Sound. No i'm not talking about getting some sounds out of your DE, i'm talking about not having to faff about with different sound daemons or exclusive locks over the sound hardware to run any app that uses the sound hardware.
So i want to connect to an 802.1x network with my wifi card. Or hell, even WPA2? Linux works for a reasonably sized subset of "works". But it is by no means easy to use or well supported out of the box if you venture outside of some rather restrictive usage scenarios.
I think you'll find that some companies are still buying vista. Chevron (for example) rolled out vista and are still using it as their SOE. Any new PC they buy will get an enterprise license of it.
The macbook air is not overpriced. The ipad is not overpriced. the fact that they are killing the competitors in their market segments would indicate that to most people, the price is competitive for what you get.
Because in recent years, its cool to bash OS X / Apple here. Never mind taco is a mac / apple fan these days (yes I know he left). But linux must be cast in a good light at all costs.
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Point being, a secure machine requires some level of system administration. Whether its not using windows like a fucktard, or running Linux. Less so with the mac, simply due to the reduced number of threats currently out there, and lack of services running by default.
Don't bother. Some people don't understand that hardware also encompasses the bits that you actually interact with. Like usable input peripherals on portable machines for example.
Find me a PC with a decent trackpad. And Windows doesn't do multiple desktops out of the box, has no equivalent to automator (folder actions are useful in particular), Windows constantly need to be manually refreshed because unlike the mac, they don't make use of value observation of their contents, etc.
What is funny is seeing PC / Linux user arguments that the mac offers nothing from people who have clearly never spent any time with it. I run Linux, OS X and Windows on a daily basis, and there's a reason I'm more than happy to pay what is required for apple hardware.
To give you an update: pc trackpads are still mostly garbage. tried an HP folio 13 MBA wannabe the other day and after 30 minutes there was permanent mark on the trackpad surface from use, and the click was too stiff and non-positive in engagement. Right and left click on different sides of the pad, and like most PC trackpads, prone to mouse cursor skipping unintentionally.
The day a PC maker actually figures out how to make a decent trackpad is the day I'll consider a non-apple notebook, but until then, no way. I still build my own PC desktops though.
Your angry birds example is neither a thin client app, or originally browser based. The ipad / modern tablet is not strictly a thin client device - it has a lot more processing power than desktops from a few years ago in a device much much smaller.
Everything old is new again. Back in the 80s and previous we all ran thin clients back to a mainframe. That sucked then, and thin clients back to "the cloud" will suck in comparison to what proper desktop hardware will be able to offer in future, too.
Compare an HP folio to an MBA and tell me which one is better value. From memory they're actually around the same price, and I've used both. The trackpad on the folio is garbage. It is not available with any other storage than a 128gb SSD, and has single channel memory.
Yup. The apple trackpad is worth paying for. Even if you're going to run windows on it. Carrying a mouse and keyboard around with your portable computer because the built in gear is awful is fucking retarded.
In other words, it is due to /. groupthink and nothing to do with the relevance of each post to the discussion at hand. Like most moderation here lately.
Most apple buyers are the vast majority of the tablet and ultrabook market it would appear. People iPads because they work, are supported for about 3 years, and because of the apps. People buy MBAs because the trackpad words, the battery life is good, and they are small. In terms of comparison products on the market with equal spec, both of those products are price competitive. Or they would not be selling in the numbers they are. Apple fans or not. Most of the i-Device and MBA users I know were not apple customers prior to those devices.
A windows box looked after by someone with half the clue required to maintain a linux box from upgrade to upgrade will not get viruses or trojans either. Of my fleet of 550 desktops in the past year we've had 2 cases of malware. And i haven't had to fix any hardware or software broken by a service pack, security update, etc.
WPA2 wifi security. Sound. No i'm not talking about getting some sounds out of your DE, i'm talking about not having to faff about with different sound daemons or exclusive locks over the sound hardware to run any app that uses the sound hardware.
So i want to connect to an 802.1x network with my wifi card. Or hell, even WPA2? Linux works for a reasonably sized subset of "works". But it is by no means easy to use or well supported out of the box if you venture outside of some rather restrictive usage scenarios.
Neither of which run Linux in the traditional sense.
I think you'll find that some companies are still buying vista. Chevron (for example) rolled out vista and are still using it as their SOE. Any new PC they buy will get an enterprise license of it.
The macbook air is not overpriced. The ipad is not overpriced. the fact that they are killing the competitors in their market segments would indicate that to most people, the price is competitive for what you get.
Because it doesn't work effectively in that environment for the majority of people, for a variety of reasons.
Because in recent years, its cool to bash OS X / Apple here. Never mind taco is a mac / apple fan these days (yes I know he left). But linux must be cast in a good light at all costs.
Where does Linux figure in that list? :)
I will seriously LOL if its another metric vs. imperial thing.
even apple know that power supplies are better attached via magnets.
You do live in the real world, and deal with real world CEOs right?
You mean, like in the US? You only have to be declared a potential terrorist and its all fair game.
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Yup, it will pay for 3 new machines with AES in hardware!