I think jobs said it best about microsoft. "They just have no taste".
Like them or hate them, apple are doing the desktop vs touchscreen thing properly (more or less). OS X is getting a few things from IOS, but not the entire UI paradigm. Because it doesn't fucking work in a desktop environment.
Trying to force it on people and claim it works is not going to help Windows 8 sell at all.
They should have released Windows 7.1 with IE10, a sandboxed app store, and the virtualization/vhd improvements.
3 major GUI changes in 3 releases just makes supporting the thing a nightmare - we already have users on a mix of Windows XP and 7, add 8 to the mix and support costs will go through the roof.
Huh? The Windows 7 start menu was awesome. Press start key/click button and type about 3 characters and you can find whatever you want. Windows XP is fine until you have more than 5-10 apps installed, then its just a mess.
Shitty driver support isn't Microsoft's problem. At least, we keep getting told it isn't Linux's problem when hardware doesn't work. If you bought non-shitty hardware you got working drivers fairly promptly. I ran Vista between 2006 and 2009 and had zero issues other than a wifi card that took until SP1 to get a driver.
Microsoft didn't "make it hard on people who wrote the drivers" they just required them to pull their finger out and actually write things properly before they'd get the MS signing. Windows has ALWAYS had stability problems due to shitty driver support. Rather than let that continue, MS enforced driver signing.
Get back to us when the Amiga has openGL support, software audio mixing, internet connectivity, a multi-user security model, journaling filesystem and virtualization support (just for a few random features).
I had an amiga too, they were great, but comparing the 1990 feature set with what people actually use a computer for in 2012 is a bit of a stretch.
They're even in danger of losing the business market. All the PHBs at work are in love with their iphones, ipads and asking for macs (MBAs) where I work.
Currently we're warning them that they are untested, all our back end software has only been tested on Windows, etc but eventually they'll green light the changes required to take care of that, rather than giving up their new shiny toys.
Microsoft has nothing anyone actually WANTS to use. People are using Windows because they have to, because it is entrenched, but this is gradually changing.
The danger to microsoft is that if all their business customer's software needs to be re-engineered to work properly, the sensible people will be porting it all to HTML/javascript and becoming client agnostic. And buying much cheaper, much more portable tablets/ultra portable notebooks. Possibly from apple, possible from google. But it doesn't really matter. And microsoft is no longer required.
Yeah don't get me wrong, I like Win7 a lot better than vista. But when comparing XP to Vista, Vista got a pretty fucking bad wrap. It made important steps in hardware abstraction, user space drivers, better security model, etc. Without vista before it, Windows 7 would have faced all the same compatibility and driver issues by virtue of being first to introduce them.
I agree, but they don't do cheap. Give it a couple of years though and the ipad will take care of that. No, the tablet won't evolve itself so much, more that the apps that normal people actually want to use will. Grandma and Grandpa want to do their banking, shopping, organise their photos / videos, talk to their kids and read things on the internet. A tablet will do all that and more.
People/apps just haven't caught up yet - the vast majority of end users who want a cheap laptop would actually be better served by a locked-down (as in, secure) tablet, they just don't know it yet.
Sure, there's a niche of tech savvy users who want more for less money, but that market segment isn't statistically significant, imho.
I like it despite the interface, for the power of things like automator, working 3d support, working audio out of the box, a touchpad that is actually awesome, etc.
The UI is my least favorite part of OS X, but its still better than the mish-mash of buggy desktop apps you get with KDE or Gnome (which I still frequently check out).
Problem is - old hardware is old, and even hardware 5 years old runs Windows 7 well enough. The big cost to any company toying with the idea of Windows 7 will be user re-training, support staff re-training, and compatibility testing all their apps. Exactly the same reasons Windows 7 has found resistance, minus the metro clusterfuck.
The risk is there. Most applications are going HTML+JS on the client side, which makes end user platform largely irrelevant. I think they've hedged with Windows Azure - even if Apple eat their lunch in the desktop / notebook market, icloud, etc all runs on azure anyway.
The only way to "fix" metro is to kill it with fire. And then you have Windows 7 with a new task manager and IE10. Whoopie fucking doo.
I'm against the grain here, and I'll actually say that Vista was a good operating system. It was hobbled by lack of driver support and people trying to run it on inadequate hardware at the time, but if you run it on anything newer than say 2004 vintage with a couple of gigs of RAM, it is FINE.
I had zero stability problems. Windows 7 is essentially vista with UAC toned down a bit, a fancy UI slapped on top and some tweaks to the scheduler.
No. Get Windows 7 if you haven't already (and are bound to Windows for whatever reason). If you don't need Windows in particular, there are far better alternatives. Only people who haven't used Windows 8 think the Linux desktop is unfriendly.
but the unix desktop has been viable for quite some time now. Went mac, not going back. OS X gives me what i want in a unix desktop, and I don't mind paying for it.
Windows 8 is a clusterfuck. Yes, i've run it. The UI has no value, it doesn't work on the desktop without touch, and it hasn't set the world on fire in the mobile phone space either. I suspect Microsoft "bet the farm" on this shit, and it's all going to end in tears.
If these machines are attempting infect others, sending spam, and doing all the other malicious botnet type activity they no doubt are being used for, or could be used for then cut them off.
Leaving them working, but infected because the user is too ignorant to fix the problem (which has been present for well over a year now) is a liability.
Grunt development work is writing code - converting an algorithm into language of your choice. Writing algorithms, defining specifications and problem analysis is the higher level stuff. If you're writing code without any of that going on... well, this explains the vast amount of shitty code out there.
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They're still immune to "pc viruses".
I think jobs said it best about microsoft. "They just have no taste".
Like them or hate them, apple are doing the desktop vs touchscreen thing properly (more or less). OS X is getting a few things from IOS, but not the entire UI paradigm. Because it doesn't fucking work in a desktop environment.
Trying to force it on people and claim it works is not going to help Windows 8 sell at all.
They should have released Windows 7.1 with IE10, a sandboxed app store, and the virtualization/vhd improvements.
3 major GUI changes in 3 releases just makes supporting the thing a nightmare - we already have users on a mix of Windows XP and 7, add 8 to the mix and support costs will go through the roof.
Huh? The Windows 7 start menu was awesome. Press start key/click button and type about 3 characters and you can find whatever you want. Windows XP is fine until you have more than 5-10 apps installed, then its just a mess.
lol. new here huh?
Windows 2008 R2 can be installed without the GUI too. Powershell is actually half decent, too.
Microsoft didn't "make it hard on people who wrote the drivers" they just required them to pull their finger out and actually write things properly before they'd get the MS signing. Windows has ALWAYS had stability problems due to shitty driver support. Rather than let that continue, MS enforced driver signing.
Get back to us when the Amiga has openGL support, software audio mixing, internet connectivity, a multi-user security model, journaling filesystem and virtualization support (just for a few random features).
I had an amiga too, they were great, but comparing the 1990 feature set with what people actually use a computer for in 2012 is a bit of a stretch.
They're even in danger of losing the business market. All the PHBs at work are in love with their iphones, ipads and asking for macs (MBAs) where I work.
Currently we're warning them that they are untested, all our back end software has only been tested on Windows, etc but eventually they'll green light the changes required to take care of that, rather than giving up their new shiny toys.
Microsoft has nothing anyone actually WANTS to use. People are using Windows because they have to, because it is entrenched, but this is gradually changing.
The danger to microsoft is that if all their business customer's software needs to be re-engineered to work properly, the sensible people will be porting it all to HTML/javascript and becoming client agnostic. And buying much cheaper, much more portable tablets/ultra portable notebooks. Possibly from apple, possible from google. But it doesn't really matter. And microsoft is no longer required.
Yeah don't get me wrong, I like Win7 a lot better than vista. But when comparing XP to Vista, Vista got a pretty fucking bad wrap. It made important steps in hardware abstraction, user space drivers, better security model, etc. Without vista before it, Windows 7 would have faced all the same compatibility and driver issues by virtue of being first to introduce them.
I agree, but they don't do cheap. Give it a couple of years though and the ipad will take care of that. No, the tablet won't evolve itself so much, more that the apps that normal people actually want to use will. Grandma and Grandpa want to do their banking, shopping, organise their photos / videos, talk to their kids and read things on the internet. A tablet will do all that and more.
People/apps just haven't caught up yet - the vast majority of end users who want a cheap laptop would actually be better served by a locked-down (as in, secure) tablet, they just don't know it yet.
Sure, there's a niche of tech savvy users who want more for less money, but that market segment isn't statistically significant, imho.
I like it despite the interface, for the power of things like automator, working 3d support, working audio out of the box, a touchpad that is actually awesome, etc.
The UI is my least favorite part of OS X, but its still better than the mish-mash of buggy desktop apps you get with KDE or Gnome (which I still frequently check out).
I mean...
Problem is - old hardware is old, and even hardware 5 years old runs Windows 7 well enough. The big cost to any company toying with the idea of Windows 7 will be user re-training, support staff re-training, and compatibility testing all their apps. Exactly the same reasons Windows 7 has found resistance, minus the metro clusterfuck.
The risk is there. Most applications are going HTML+JS on the client side, which makes end user platform largely irrelevant. I think they've hedged with Windows Azure - even if Apple eat their lunch in the desktop / notebook market, icloud, etc all runs on azure anyway.
The only way to "fix" metro is to kill it with fire. And then you have Windows 7 with a new task manager and IE10. Whoopie fucking doo.
I'm against the grain here, and I'll actually say that Vista was a good operating system. It was hobbled by lack of driver support and people trying to run it on inadequate hardware at the time, but if you run it on anything newer than say 2004 vintage with a couple of gigs of RAM, it is FINE.
I had zero stability problems. Windows 7 is essentially vista with UAC toned down a bit, a fancy UI slapped on top and some tweaks to the scheduler.
No. Get Windows 7 if you haven't already (and are bound to Windows for whatever reason). If you don't need Windows in particular, there are far better alternatives. Only people who haven't used Windows 8 think the Linux desktop is unfriendly.
but the unix desktop has been viable for quite some time now. Went mac, not going back. OS X gives me what i want in a unix desktop, and I don't mind paying for it.
Windows 8 is a clusterfuck. Yes, i've run it. The UI has no value, it doesn't work on the desktop without touch, and it hasn't set the world on fire in the mobile phone space either. I suspect Microsoft "bet the farm" on this shit, and it's all going to end in tears.
Hopefully this will bring more developers to GNUStep / Etoile.
Read the patent application date.
If these machines are attempting infect others, sending spam, and doing all the other malicious botnet type activity they no doubt are being used for, or could be used for then cut them off.
Leaving them working, but infected because the user is too ignorant to fix the problem (which has been present for well over a year now) is a liability.
Lol. Because it has had such as massive impact on the Mac game library. I say this as a mac user :D
Grunt development work is writing code - converting an algorithm into language of your choice. Writing algorithms, defining specifications and problem analysis is the higher level stuff. If you're writing code without any of that going on... well, this explains the vast amount of shitty code out there.
Exactly. You need someone who understands code, understands what can be done, but has the real world experience to deal with the business side.