Sony could release a phone that claimed to cure cancer, solve world poverty and establish peace in the middle east. They're still not getting a cent of my disposable income.
Pretty much this. People WILL buy books online irrespective of whether the book store owner sells kindles or not. They can either become a reseller for kindle/other book reader, or they die without making any money out of the inevitable change.
Not really. They still had to do an SDK for the phone, they could just as easily written an SDK for native code rather than Java. I suspect use of Java was a hedge against either ARM or Intel providing the better mobile CPUs, whereas apple made the decision and bet on ARM.
Not trolling. Pointing out that vast numbers of people buy the iPhone despite it costing 2x as much. And this is despite the fact that most people are cheap - hence VHS winning against Betamax, Hyundai being way more popular than BMW, etc. It's also why most android handsets are not Nexus 5s or Galaxy 4s.
There are reasons for people buying iPhones despite all this. Chief amongst them is that the average Joe DOES NOT CARE about what the numbers are with synthetic benchmarks, number of pixels on screen, etc. They care about how well a device performance the functions they want it to do. Despite what many in the slashdot crowd may think, things like look and feel, UI consistency, battery life and integration with other devices and services is important.
The raw numbers are pretty irrelevant for everybody outside a very small subset of the population. For so many people to be buying iphones despite being "2x the price", there must be something they value in the device, otherwise they wouldn't be buying it.
I've heard people claiming "oh but wait until XXXX, you won't need to write native code anymore!" regarding Java performance for ages. Since 1996. Java still sucks compared to native code.
Yeah because when I am out and about, i much prefer to carrry a map, a compass, a walkman, a mobile phone, a laptop, a pager, a camera, a tape recorder and a gaming console. Fuck those integration guys in the neck.
64 bit is a bit different to e-peen measuring with clockspeed numbers or screen resolution numbers. 64 bit is a significant step, not just "this is better because the number is teh bigggar!!"
Possibly in some cases. But there are plenty of new iphone users. The original iphone caught on because it did stuff no other available device did (or at least not as well). Playing DRM content off iTunes was only a small part of that.
Uh... Apple has never pushed numbers. Try and find in any of their keynotes any mention of iphone screen res numbers, CPU clockspeed, etc?
Apple build hardware to do a job. At the screen size the iphone runs, the resolution it runs, at the typical use distance is plenty. Pushing any more pixels around on that device is pointless. So why do it? "Oh but it's not full HD!". On a screen that size, this point is irrelevant.
Now now that shit will get you down-modded here (as will this post, most likely). because here at slashdot we're all about software efficiency, not that bloated microsoft shit.
Owait..
Sooner or later, Google are going to have to admit that using a JVM was a bad idea. JVMs have been fail on the desktop since the mid 90s, and waiting for hardware to catch up has proven to be a mistake - especially in mobile. More cycles = more power = bigger battery required = more weight.
According to the apple privacy policy, information is not disclosed to third parties for marketing purposes. it is mentioned explicitly in the policy under "disclosure to third parties".
Disclosure to Third Parties
At times Apple may make certain personal information available to strategic partners that work with Apple to provide products and services, or that help Apple market to customers. For example, when you purchase and activate your iPhone, you authorize Apple and its carrier to exchange the information you provide during the activation process to carry out service. If you are approved for service, your account will be governed by Apple and its carrier’s respective privacy policies. Personal information will only be shared by Apple to provide or improve our products, services and advertising; it will not be shared with third parties for their marketing purposes.
I.e., it is used by apple so their contractors can ship to you, for credit services, etc. and used by apple for their own marketing. No one else's marketing.
Possibly. Given that I've been waiting for the year of the Linux desktop since 1996 and keep seeing the same mistakes being made to hinder adoption and generally prevent the platform from gaining traction, I wouldn't hold my breath. After a decade and a bit with Linux, I gave up waiting, bought a Mac running OS X, liked it and have been pretty happy ever since. I still have a Linux install on my PC to keep up with developments, but to be honest I haven't really seen any real, meaningful progress on the desktop front since KDE 2.0.
Yup, the web model is the most insidious because few read the fine print, expect something for free and then get outraged when they find out what they've been paying for the product with. the other problem is that once you have given a third party your information, There's no getting it back. With traditional payment models, or open source/free software - if find the deal is not to your liking you can cancel at any time and stop paying. Once company X has your personal information, there's nothing you can do about it.
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Sony could release a phone that claimed to cure cancer, solve world poverty and establish peace in the middle east. They're still not getting a cent of my disposable income.
Pretty much this. People WILL buy books online irrespective of whether the book store owner sells kindles or not. They can either become a reseller for kindle/other book reader, or they die without making any money out of the inevitable change.
Lol. The talk time metric is so outdated now. Hands up who uses their phone for voice more than anything else? Anyone? Bueller?
Thought not.
They rape you on call costs for the duration of your contract.
Not really. They still had to do an SDK for the phone, they could just as easily written an SDK for native code rather than Java. I suspect use of Java was a hedge against either ARM or Intel providing the better mobile CPUs, whereas apple made the decision and bet on ARM.
Also, i forgot another big reason: after-sales customer service. Apple does well at this, with OS upgrades, repairs and other support.
Not trolling. Pointing out that vast numbers of people buy the iPhone despite it costing 2x as much. And this is despite the fact that most people are cheap - hence VHS winning against Betamax, Hyundai being way more popular than BMW, etc. It's also why most android handsets are not Nexus 5s or Galaxy 4s.
There are reasons for people buying iPhones despite all this. Chief amongst them is that the average Joe DOES NOT CARE about what the numbers are with synthetic benchmarks, number of pixels on screen, etc. They care about how well a device performance the functions they want it to do. Despite what many in the slashdot crowd may think, things like look and feel, UI consistency, battery life and integration with other devices and services is important.
The raw numbers are pretty irrelevant for everybody outside a very small subset of the population. For so many people to be buying iphones despite being "2x the price", there must be something they value in the device, otherwise they wouldn't be buying it.
Yup, because burning CPU cycles at twice the rate to run "fast enough" is the way to awesome battery life.
I've heard people claiming "oh but wait until XXXX, you won't need to write native code anymore!" regarding Java performance for ages. Since 1996. Java still sucks compared to native code.
Yeah because when I am out and about, i much prefer to carrry a map, a compass, a walkman, a mobile phone, a laptop, a pager, a camera, a tape recorder and a gaming console. Fuck those integration guys in the neck.
64 bit is a bit different to e-peen measuring with clockspeed numbers or screen resolution numbers. 64 bit is a significant step, not just "this is better because the number is teh bigggar!!"
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No. Some things are explained by reasons some people are simply unwilling to accept.
Possibly in some cases. But there are plenty of new iphone users. The original iphone caught on because it did stuff no other available device did (or at least not as well). Playing DRM content off iTunes was only a small part of that.
Uh... Apple has never pushed numbers. Try and find in any of their keynotes any mention of iphone screen res numbers, CPU clockspeed, etc?
Apple build hardware to do a job. At the screen size the iphone runs, the resolution it runs, at the typical use distance is plenty. Pushing any more pixels around on that device is pointless. So why do it? "Oh but it's not full HD!". On a screen that size, this point is irrelevant.
Because people are willing to pay twice as much money for it. Have a think about why.
Now now that shit will get you down-modded here (as will this post, most likely). because here at slashdot we're all about software efficiency, not that bloated microsoft shit.
Owait..
Sooner or later, Google are going to have to admit that using a JVM was a bad idea. JVMs have been fail on the desktop since the mid 90s, and waiting for hardware to catch up has proven to be a mistake - especially in mobile. More cycles = more power = bigger battery required = more weight.
Exactly. Its why I am reasonably happy to pay them. As they say, if a service is free, you are the product.
That's why google wallet/NFC payments are being pushed.
According to the apple privacy policy, information is not disclosed to third parties for marketing purposes. it is mentioned explicitly in the policy under "disclosure to third parties".
I.e., it is used by apple so their contractors can ship to you, for credit services, etc. and used by apple for their own marketing. No one else's marketing.
Feel bad. Feeling badly means you don't have much of an ability to feel.
I thought it was obvious that it was a piss-take on US foreign policy back when I saw it on release.
Yeah, need to see if it will work with that site. But the easy fix for the time being was to just back out the upgrade for those machines.
Possibly. Given that I've been waiting for the year of the Linux desktop since 1996 and keep seeing the same mistakes being made to hinder adoption and generally prevent the platform from gaining traction, I wouldn't hold my breath. After a decade and a bit with Linux, I gave up waiting, bought a Mac running OS X, liked it and have been pretty happy ever since. I still have a Linux install on my PC to keep up with developments, but to be honest I haven't really seen any real, meaningful progress on the desktop front since KDE 2.0.
Yup, the web model is the most insidious because few read the fine print, expect something for free and then get outraged when they find out what they've been paying for the product with. the other problem is that once you have given a third party your information, There's no getting it back. With traditional payment models, or open source/free software - if find the deal is not to your liking you can cancel at any time and stop paying. Once company X has your personal information, there's nothing you can do about it.