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  1. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    I've never had a catastrophic disaster in my server room either, but I still back up to tape and ship off site.

  2. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    They can always buy a mac, which WILL let you boot other OSes :D

  3. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    OK, tell me a way i can create a folder action in Gnome to auto-convert a any videos I dump into it into a different format? It is literally about 1 minute of work in OS X with automator and zero code-writing is required, it's a series of drag and drop actions. OS X's gui is barely scratching the surface, and Gnome doesn't even really match OS X on that front. If you dig a little deeper into the sytem services, it's not even in the same decade. Neither is Windows for that matter.

  4. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    You don't get the level of consistency across all your apps with regards to menu options. You don't get the gesture support. You don't get the systemwide 3d acceleration or the display PDF. You don't get automator or any equivalent to applescript for inter-application scripting. There's a heap of places Gnome is nowhere even close.

  5. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Agreed, FS is a weak point and its maybe not quite so fast. But the other features Linux plain does not have more than make up for it in my book. You can cheaply throw more cpu and ram at an os x box. You can't magically throw dtrace or quartz or the library of cocoa apps at a linux box.

  6. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Um... "package management" on OS X is mostly a case of drag/drop app bundle. For the stuff that installs plists they're easily located under either your, or the system library folder. Package management on unix is a farce - packages drop configuration files wherever they like, executables wherever they like, pull in dependencies you don't want, etc.

  7. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Android is just as fragmented and inconsistent as Linux is, if not, more so.

  8. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Its not just hardware that you get with a Netapp or Cisco or whatever box. You get a fully tested, certified and support solution encompassing both hardware and software, in addition to certification of compatibility/performance with other third party products.

    If you're comparing to a home built solution, be sure to include the design, build and debugging costs in your comparison, and the risk of that staff member leaving or going on holiday.

  9. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Depends what sort of person you are. If I give something away, I don't care what others do with it.

  10. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    There's truly free software, and then there's the GPL.

  11. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Both licenses have enabled fantastic engineering and applied ideology in practical cooperation -- but it appears GPL is more focused on the long-term and BSD is focused on the short-term.

    Actually, I'd argue that rather than this - BSD simply acknowledge that commercial, closed source software WILL exist even if only for niche applications (at a minimum) as not everybody is in a position to develop niche applications for free. However, having people reinventing the wheel continually is simply a waste of resources that could be used to make the world better.

    The GPL is actively hostile to commercial software.

  12. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Yup. Like the original TCP stack for example. Others are poorly imitated, like systemtap (Dtrace, but crap), btrfs, etc.

  13. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    This is what i was referring to. The whole "GPL ensures they contribute back!!" mantra just isn't necessarily true.

  14. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Even stuff they invent themselves they often release, like grand central and opencl.

  15. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    If you think that "tiny bits of darwin" are the only open-source stuff apple contributes to, you're deluded.

  16. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    The EMC drives also have custom EMC firmware.

  17. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    There's this thing called support. My netapp shits a disk? It mails home to netapp, they dispatch a disk, it arrives at start of business for start of business first thing in the morning. I also get inline dedup, compression, ESX integration tools for VMDK alignment, etc, etc.

    Could I build my own ZFS array? Sure. Would it give me anywhere near the same level of support and "it just works"? Nope. I have better things to do than reinvent the wheel, like solving business related issues here at the company that HAVEN'T been solved a million times before by others and are available off the shelf.

  18. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Show me an actual shipping storage array that is linux at it's core.

  19. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 1

    Must be why FreeBSD has DTrace and ZFS, whilst Linux has Systemtap and btrfs.

  20. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 2

    Plenty of them do. Conversely, plenty use Linux and do not contribute back all of their modifications as they do not distribute. Including google for example.

  21. Re:so uh... on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    probably not so far from the truth. 20+ years of rabid fanboy worship probably doesn't help either.

  22. Re:Can any one help... on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 0

    Seriously, redhat should just fork the kernel and implement all the enterprise friendly features that have been wanted for years that Linus refuses to implement. The core is good enough now, and could do with stuff like a stable driver ABI, code signing, Dtrace, Zfs, etc.

  23. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 2

    Whatever. I'll sleep better at night knowing that if i have a drive die in my filer overnight, Netapp will ship one to my doorstep to pop in by tomorrow morning.

  24. Re:Linus Torvalds is his own worst enemy on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 0

    Irrelevant in the storage market, not owning the mobile market (and android is a lot more than "linux" anyhow), and not second to MS on the desktop. So uh... yeah, modicum of success fits pretty well?

  25. Re:Ideology is what it's all about on Linus Torvalds Explodes at Red Hat Developer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Must be why its the core of juniper JunOS, every Netapp filer, every iDevice, every Mac, every Cisco IronPort, etc.