Weather is chaotic. Climate is not so much. Simulating climate is like simulating when water will boil, given a certain heat input and output. Simulating weather is like simulating when a particular bubble will burst on the surface. You do see the difference, right?
Then how is it, in games like Gran Turismo with real world cars and tracks, that actual race car drivers turn in near-identical times on virtual and real tracks with the same car?
A car traveling 300 Km/h travels 300,000 m/h, or 83.3 m/s. At 30 frames per second, that's around 3 meters per frame. Are you saying this isn't possible to calculate?
Ah, so faster hardware will actually update the model more quickly. But does this change the way the model acts? In some physics models, I guess it would. More frames would, in fact, be more accurate. But in most simple models, would calculating more time-slices actually change anything? I kind of doubt it, so even though you are right, and visual frame rate (in a non-threaded game) is tied to model frame rate, more frames would not change the outcome.
Basically, the original poster was making it sound as if the internal time of fighting games was tied to frames, so that, if a move took 12 frames to complete at standard speed, adding more frames per second would make it complete faster. I just don't see modern games being made this way.
You don't understand how frame rate works, do you? The pictures drawn on the screen aren't the real model the game uses. Adding frames in between other frames won't generate lag (if the processing speed is high enough) So, if activating a block at a given frame works with 30fps, it will work with 15fps, 60fps, or 300fps. The frames aren't the 'real thing,' the game's unseen internal model is the real thing. The frames are drawn as often as is possible, given the hardware, and are drawn to comply with the current state of the internal model.
HTH.
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Just a guess, but perhaps because the frame rate isn't high enough for your eye to generate the blur? That is to say, if the scene were real, the frame rate would be well-nigh infinite, and your eye, capable of only a certain frame rate, would blur together all the frames. With discrete frames, you need to put in the blur the eye would generate from the frames in-between.
No. I am not making claims. The claims have been made and backed up by science. YOU are claiming the science is bad. Prove it.
You are also a hypocrite, whining about ad hominems, while using same. I quote: "You sound like an activist -- too passionate and not thinking clearly anymore." While I said, "But you don't care. You are a fanatic, and have made up your mind." What's the difference between your statement and mine? How is it okay for you to do it, but not me?
There are no '30,000 scientists' that dispute climate change. There are 30,000 names, people who signed up via web form, without any kind of verification of who they really are.
Funny, looking at those same graphs, I don't see what you are talking about. The IPCC graphs go to 2100, and the change shown for 2010 is minuscule, a tenth of a degree.
You do know that climate is chaotic, right? It's like a pot of water. We can predict when it will start to boil, but not when individual bubbles will rise. I don't think anyone has EVER said "The temperature will be hotter every single year."
Your speculations, while interesting, aren't scientific. They are the opinions of an untrained amateur.
No, a slut is someone who likes sex, and wants a lot of it. I know some very secure women who like a lot of sex. I know a lot of women with no self respect who hate sex.
You might want to read 'The Ethical Slut.' It's a good book about how to be a slut without hurting anyone.
There is simply no point in debating with someone who hasn't bothered to educate himself obout basic science. Do you know how climate works? Global warming means more energy entering a chaotic system. More energy means more extremes. Look at the trends, not just the winter temperatures.
You don't WANT climate change to be true. You don't WANT the damn hippies to be right. It goes against your religion, doesn't it, hippies being right? So, you've made up your mind, despite not having educated yourself, and thus, there is no point debating you.
Prove the computer models are inaccurate. Otherwise, it's just your word against that of a large number of trained scientists.
The Nongovernmental Panel on Climate Change is run by Fred Singer, a consultant for GE, Ford, GM, Exxon, Shell, Sun Oil, Lockheed Martin and IBM, according to his well documented wikipedia page. His slipshod attempts to please his corporate masters are well known.
But you don't care. You are a fanatic, and have made up your mind.
Seeing as how the scientific consensus is that there is a link between CO2 and global warming, YOU are the one who needs to prove there isn't one (and I seriously doubt you can show me any good evidence that there ISN'T a link, as 'a definite link' is what the facts show.)
Did these people present conservative ideologies and theories? I doubt it. I doubt they would have recognized political theories without shooting at it first. "Conservative" does not mean pro-war, pro-violence, anti-hippie, etc.
Of course they presented conservative ideologies and theories. I wouldn't have said so unless it were true. RTFA.
Are you American? I understand that in the rest of the world, 'conservative' does not mean 'pro war, pro-violence, anti-hippy.' But here in the Land of the Free, it does. Oh sure, there are conservatives who do not espouse such things, even here. But they never speak up against those who do, so I lump them all together, the deathers, the birthers, the teabaggers: all the wacky conspiracy theorists; the libertarians, the Austrian Schoolers, and all the other lassaiz-faire deregulationists: these are the true conservatives of America. If you find these stereotypes offensive, then perhaps you ought to do something to prove that there are other, alternative forms of conservatism that are not based on fear, anger, hatred, violence, and domination.
No. You have edited it to be less objective. Removing a fact because you disagree with it or think things are more 'balanced' with its removal, is not objective. The griefers were conservatives. That is a fact. Why delete it?
Ah, geez. Give us a break from your superior, "look at what a life I have, not like those SL losers!' crap. You know who says things like that? People with no life. Seriously, have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, different people like different things? Or, maybe people DO try out new social strategies in SL, build up their confidence, and then go back to the real world with the courage to be a slut.
I'm sorry that I have to give you such a hard time about this, but you, sir, are discouraging sluts, and this, I will not tolerate.
Yep Java is such a powerful language... it is the only one that can verify the correct number of digits for a phone number, the right date, etc. So there all you purist language tards; things like C++, C, perl, python, etal are utter crap compared to the almighty Java and its scripts. Who cares if there are a few security issues introduced, Adobe could not give a shit about it.
No, seriously, are you? Because I don't even know where to start here, I mean, come on! Are you trolling? This whole post is meaningless jibber-jabber. Java isn't java-script. In fact, they aren't even related. ANY general purpose language included in a document mark-up language can introduce vulnerabilities. This isn't about one language versus another. The question is, why does a document format need scripting at all? Sheesh.
Your facts have been checked, and found wanting. The real story is now there for all to see: conservative assholes moved into an area that didn't want them and started griefing the locals. The locals complained, and Linden did the right thing. Once again, when asshole conservatives aren't allowed to be bullies, they will whine about their 'freedom' being taken away.
Right. The lady in question was driving a moped because she had a prior DUI. She ran a police roadblock into a flooded street and ended up going over an embankment into a flooded creek. The police rescued her. She then jumped BACK into the creek.
Yes indeed, could have happened to any one of us.
But yes, things are less funny when people die because, you know, we've got so few people and it's so hard to make new ones.
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Sorry, but to me, that doesn't make nearly as much sense as some of the other explanations given here.
Weather is chaotic. Climate is not so much. Simulating climate is like simulating when water will boil, given a certain heat input and output. Simulating weather is like simulating when a particular bubble will burst on the surface. You do see the difference, right?
Then how is it, in games like Gran Turismo with real world cars and tracks, that actual race car drivers turn in near-identical times on virtual and real tracks with the same car?
A car traveling 300 Km/h travels 300,000 m/h, or 83.3 m/s. At 30 frames per second, that's around 3 meters per frame. Are you saying this isn't possible to calculate?
Ah, so faster hardware will actually update the model more quickly. But does this change the way the model acts? In some physics models, I guess it would. More frames would, in fact, be more accurate. But in most simple models, would calculating more time-slices actually change anything? I kind of doubt it, so even though you are right, and visual frame rate (in a non-threaded game) is tied to model frame rate, more frames would not change the outcome.
Basically, the original poster was making it sound as if the internal time of fighting games was tied to frames, so that, if a move took 12 frames to complete at standard speed, adding more frames per second would make it complete faster. I just don't see modern games being made this way.
How so? What lag are you talking about? What, in your theory, does 'lag' mean?
Heck, could you rephrase the sentence, "Input will lag behind with any other lag," so it actually makes sense?
You don't understand how frame rate works, do you? The pictures drawn on the screen aren't the real model the game uses. Adding frames in between other frames won't generate lag (if the processing speed is high enough) So, if activating a block at a given frame works with 30fps, it will work with 15fps, 60fps, or 300fps. The frames aren't the 'real thing,' the game's unseen internal model is the real thing. The frames are drawn as often as is possible, given the hardware, and are drawn to comply with the current state of the internal model.
HTH.
Just a guess, but perhaps because the frame rate isn't high enough for your eye to generate the blur? That is to say, if the scene were real, the frame rate would be well-nigh infinite, and your eye, capable of only a certain frame rate, would blur together all the frames. With discrete frames, you need to put in the blur the eye would generate from the frames in-between.
Or something like that.
No. I am not making claims. The claims have been made and backed up by science. YOU are claiming the science is bad. Prove it.
You are also a hypocrite, whining about ad hominems, while using same. I quote: "You sound like an activist -- too passionate and not thinking clearly anymore." While I said, "But you don't care. You are a fanatic, and have made up your mind." What's the difference between your statement and mine? How is it okay for you to do it, but not me?
There are no '30,000 scientists' that dispute climate change. There are 30,000 names, people who signed up via web form, without any kind of verification of who they really are.
Funny, looking at those same graphs, I don't see what you are talking about. The IPCC graphs go to 2100, and the change shown for 2010 is minuscule, a tenth of a degree.
You do know that climate is chaotic, right? It's like a pot of water. We can predict when it will start to boil, but not when individual bubbles will rise. I don't think anyone has EVER said "The temperature will be hotter every single year."
Your speculations, while interesting, aren't scientific. They are the opinions of an untrained amateur.
No, a slut is someone who likes sex, and wants a lot of it. I know some very secure women who like a lot of sex. I know a lot of women with no self respect who hate sex.
You might want to read 'The Ethical Slut.' It's a good book about how to be a slut without hurting anyone.
Sure, but when we DO prove things beyond a reasonable doubt, your answer is simply 'No, you didn't. More proof!'
There is simply no point in debating with someone who hasn't bothered to educate himself obout basic science. Do you know how climate works? Global warming means more energy entering a chaotic system. More energy means more extremes. Look at the trends, not just the winter temperatures.
You don't WANT climate change to be true. You don't WANT the damn hippies to be right. It goes against your religion, doesn't it, hippies being right? So, you've made up your mind, despite not having educated yourself, and thus, there is no point debating you.
Prove the computer models are inaccurate. Otherwise, it's just your word against that of a large number of trained scientists.
The Nongovernmental Panel on Climate Change is run by Fred Singer, a consultant for GE, Ford, GM, Exxon, Shell, Sun Oil, Lockheed Martin and IBM, according to his well documented wikipedia page. His slipshod attempts to please his corporate masters are well known.
But you don't care. You are a fanatic, and have made up your mind.
Sorry, it has been proven guilty. If you want a new trial, you have to show new evidence.
Seeing as how the scientific consensus is that there is a link between CO2 and global warming, YOU are the one who needs to prove there isn't one (and I seriously doubt you can show me any good evidence that there ISN'T a link, as 'a definite link' is what the facts show.)
To use a forum analogy; Yes, one side trolled but the other kept feeding them.
Okay, see, that I can accept.
Did these people present conservative ideologies and theories? I doubt it. I doubt they would have recognized political theories without shooting at it first. "Conservative" does not mean pro-war, pro-violence, anti-hippie, etc.
Of course they presented conservative ideologies and theories. I wouldn't have said so unless it were true. RTFA.
Are you American? I understand that in the rest of the world, 'conservative' does not mean 'pro war, pro-violence, anti-hippy.' But here in the Land of the Free, it does. Oh sure, there are conservatives who do not espouse such things, even here. But they never speak up against those who do, so I lump them all together, the deathers, the birthers, the teabaggers: all the wacky conspiracy theorists; the libertarians, the Austrian Schoolers, and all the other lassaiz-faire deregulationists: these are the true conservatives of America. If you find these stereotypes offensive, then perhaps you ought to do something to prove that there are other, alternative forms of conservatism that are not based on fear, anger, hatred, violence, and domination.
No. You have edited it to be less objective. Removing a fact because you disagree with it or think things are more 'balanced' with its removal, is not objective. The griefers were conservatives. That is a fact. Why delete it?
Ah, geez. Give us a break from your superior, "look at what a life I have, not like those SL losers!' crap. You know who says things like that? People with no life. Seriously, have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, different people like different things? Or, maybe people DO try out new social strategies in SL, build up their confidence, and then go back to the real world with the courage to be a slut.
I'm sorry that I have to give you such a hard time about this, but you, sir, are discouraging sluts, and this, I will not tolerate.
Yep Java is such a powerful language... it is the only one that can verify the correct number of digits for a phone number, the right date, etc. So there all you purist language tards; things like C++, C, perl, python, etal are utter crap compared to the almighty Java and its scripts. Who cares if there are a few security issues introduced, Adobe could not give a shit about it.
No, seriously, are you? Because I don't even know where to start here, I mean, come on! Are you trolling? This whole post is meaningless jibber-jabber. Java isn't java-script. In fact, they aren't even related. ANY general purpose language included in a document mark-up language can introduce vulnerabilities. This isn't about one language versus another. The question is, why does a document format need scripting at all? Sheesh.
Your facts have been checked, and found wanting. The real story is now there for all to see: conservative assholes moved into an area that didn't want them and started griefing the locals. The locals complained, and Linden did the right thing. Once again, when asshole conservatives aren't allowed to be bullies, they will whine about their 'freedom' being taken away.
Your sad attempt at propaganda fails.
Sorry, the article has diplomatic immunity.
You failed to take into account that stupid people are a renewable resource (and a growth market).
Also, depending on the Darwin Award in question, a biofuel, an industrial lubricant, or a tasty new snack.
Right. The lady in question was driving a moped because she had a prior DUI. She ran a police roadblock into a flooded street and ended up going over an embankment into a flooded creek. The police rescued her. She then jumped BACK into the creek.
Yes indeed, could have happened to any one of us.
But yes, things are less funny when people die because, you know, we've got so few people and it's so hard to make new ones.
Now, for only $4 a month, you can achieve peace of mind in a world full of grime and robots, with Old Glory Insurance. So, don't cower under your afghan any longer.