place? Sheesh, let's see, our government uses closed source SECURITY software from a company located in a (hostile?) foreign country and everyone in the US doesn't automatically think it's a Bad Idea?
And yes I know there's a lot of software made outside of the US by non-US companies that are likely used in the US gov't, but security, especially closed-source, software should not be one of those.
You sir, are most likely part of the criminal syndicate. I imagine you are either directly connected and financially compensated by some means from higher education, other than getting a degree with likely still pending student loan payments. I'm assuming your a USA citizen.
No, these cost increases have nothing at all to do with government not paying enough.
They have everything to do with the entire notion of higher education in the modern Internet age is a failed enterprise. We simply do not need colleges in their current state anymore. Our civilization has outgrown the need for them.
I believe the whole reason we have this current style is because way back when, the colleges were able to concentrate materials and knowledge needed to obtain an education (books, systems, space), and rightfully so. This is when education was mostly a physical thing: 1) You needed tree-made books that had to be protected in a central safe location. Plus it was very expensive to create and copy them. 2) You must physically go to a school's location to gain access to these resources. 3) You have no other easier method to communicate with other knowledgeable persons.
It is a great thing they did that then. And the costs were low because the goal was an altruistic quest for knowledge and betterment of society in general.
Now: 1) We don't need physical tree-made books, yet they keep forcing students to buy super-expensive books containing educational knowledge commonly found elsewhere for free. 2) We have the Internet and access to the entirety of mankinds' knowledge from the trashiest of computer devices connected to the slowest of slow Internet connection. 3) We have a fantastic array of useful real-time and saved methods to communicate with each other.
Modern education's greatest success is convincing you that you need them in order to learn. Today we are a GPL society.
Kudos to you. You're welcome to write that extra check on your taxes and pay more anytime you want to. People always get magnanimous about paying more taxes but then do not just willingly pay more themselves. Have you actually written a check to pay extra than you needed on your taxes? There's a line there to help pay down the national debt. Here, run along an live up to your words https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm
My point here is the whole reason this OP thread "hurts" or "matters" is because the school's tuition is soo high that the university employee's "freebee" sizably impacts their tax obligation. The problem is not that it impacts their tax obligation; it's that the tuition is too high.
If you do not agree with that, then you are either directly involved in the criminal syndicate of higher education or are very ignorant yourself of the outrageous cost increases of higher education in the last 30+ years. Not one meaningful aspect of the costs in our society has increased anywhere near as much as the cost of higher education.
And most of all, the real hoodwink of higher education has been to convince people that you need to go to college to actually learn. That you cannot teach yourself. I've been to both BS and MS in Computer Engineering and know full well that most of my learning occurred because I did the 5 hours outside of class work per the 1 hour of inside. College at most, is just a reading list of current affairs. I would think most Slashdot'er would be of that mindset, not slavingly wanting the state to pay for and control their learning.
Pay your taxes or demand lower tuition. There is no option #3.
Well, maybe there is a candidate for #3 https://github.com/ossu/computer-science
Please present source'd information that shows the majority of employees (50%+) at a university or college are graduate students. This includes everyone from the chancellor to the facilities maintenance persons.
Please present source'd information that show the majority of students (50%+) at a university or college do not pay full tuition. What does not qualify for part of that majority is those students who are charged full tuition but get scholarships or grants that pay some/all of their costs; someone still gets the $50k to spend whether it comes directly from the student or is given to the institution on behalf of the student.
These are criminal enterprises.
The school knows they can raise the tuition virtually as high as they want over the long term because the financial aid racket will just find a way to increase the amount that can be found/borrowed. Because if the financial aid racket does not do that, then students cannot afford college and the financial aid racket has no customers.
Colleges and Financial Aid are in a winking contest at the expense of students.
Some day, hopefully soon, we're going to have a Harvey Weinstein moment about these tuition costs and the criminal cabal that is the university employees, administrators, and loan companies. Because someone is spending that $50k income from that student's tuition.
I'm glad the tax exempt status is going away. The only way this college crime syndicate is going to fall is when it hurts everyone everywhere.
Then we'll all have the Weinstein Effect: "Hey that college rap$d me!" "You too, huh? They rap$d me too but I didn't say anything at the time" "#metoo, they fondl$d my tuition" "Well, I didn't get rap$d but the college stood right in front of me and raised tuition by 15% per year. I still have PTSD from that!"
There a lot of bad people in this world and I'm absolutely certain anyone employed, owning, or managing a college nowadays or any business surrounding it is going to hell first. It's unconscionable what humanity has allowed to happen with education costs and the mortgaging of futures.
Yes to this. Tapes as offline backups are great protection from ransomware and intentional admin abuse. If possible, however, I'd rather have a rack of USB external hard drives to push to and then take those offline.
All-in-all, hard drives better than tape, but I think they are more susceptible to shock damage than tape, but that's offset because hard drives can handle more extreme temps compared to tape.
And then there's always the part where a lot of us have tape drive systems in libraries that are not really offline because we're too lazy rotate tapes offsite for our 3rd-tier backups.
Statistically, you're more likely to suffer an accidental delete as a need for a restore than any damage from disaster or mischief. That's where online backups excel.
I bought one of these awesome, super duper water coolers from NZXT. The Kraken X62
https://www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-x62
Pretty cool colors and what not. The control panel for it (CAM software) asks for a cloud login which then of course runs every time you login. There seemed to be a problem just after I got it where the settings for fan, pump, and colors would not save between restarts. It has a guest mode, but even that lost settings or would insist on loading with reduced functionality without the cloud login. Huge support thread ensued.
Textbooks are certainly a scam, what is not a scam is newer knowledge. Especially the incredible rates of increased knowledge in every single discipline, scientific or otherwise, since that 1985 Caltech big hair video series was made. Since that time, all of us now have supercomputers on our desk totally connected together globally.
And yes, I am certain a Physics textbook from 2017 is vastly better than 1985 one. Whether it should cost $200 and if a 2018 is that much better than a 2017 one, is certainly doubtful.
I'm not going to apologize for laughing at the OP's referral to a 30+ year old video series in an attempt make the point that today's college lecture system is broken.
"in 2000 the BOOMERanG experiment reported that the highest power fluctuations occur at scales of approximately one degree, showing that the Universe is close to flat. These measurements were able to rule out cosmic strings as the leading theory of cosmic structure formation, and suggested cosmic inflation was the correct theory."
I know, I know, in 1985 the universe was supposed to expand and then collapse. What a difference 30 years makes.
"WMAP’s measurements played the key role in establishing the Standard Model of Cosmology, namely the Lambda-CDM model, which posits a dark energy-dominated flat universe, supplemented by dark matter and atoms with density fluctuations seeded by a Gaussian, adiabatic, nearly scale invariant process. Its basic properties are determined by six adjustable parameters: dark matter density, baryon (atom) density, the universe’s age (or equivalently, the Hubble constant), the initial fluctuation amplitude and their scale dependence."
Yeah, in 1985 they knew that? They just couldn't be bothered to tell anyone.
Great. Show me your 1985-published Physics book from the 2017 Caltech bookstore on the Physics class list of required reading.
The last thing I'm watching when I'm out and about science'ing is any piece of info more than 5 years old. Look at any astronomy-related video on Netflix prior to 2010. For a real good laugh, go watch Carl Sagan's Cosmos (which I loved way back then and nowadays too).
I'm all about modern school, especially college, being broken and not really of more value than a reading list. Seems they are best for learning how to be a snowflake under the tutelage of all those college employees feeding on your student loans.
30+ year old Physics material is your recommendation to counter current bad classroom lecture! Really? I was actually intrigued by the referral until I saw the copywrite date.
Guess how much has changed in Physics, especially Astrophysics, in 30 years? That CalTech material might as well be flat-earth howto's
place? Sheesh, let's see, our government uses closed source SECURITY software from a company located in a (hostile?) foreign country and everyone in the US doesn't automatically think it's a Bad Idea?
And yes I know there's a lot of software made outside of the US by non-US companies that are likely used in the US gov't, but security, especially closed-source, software should not be one of those.
You sir, are most likely part of the criminal syndicate. I imagine you are either directly connected and financially compensated by some means from higher education, other than getting a degree with likely still pending student loan payments. I'm assuming your a USA citizen.
No, these cost increases have nothing at all to do with government not paying enough.
They have everything to do with the entire notion of higher education in the modern Internet age is a failed enterprise. We simply do not need colleges in their current state anymore. Our civilization has outgrown the need for them.
I believe the whole reason we have this current style is because way back when, the colleges were able to concentrate materials and knowledge needed to obtain an education (books, systems, space), and rightfully so. This is when education was mostly a physical thing:
1) You needed tree-made books that had to be protected in a central safe location. Plus it was very expensive to create and copy them.
2) You must physically go to a school's location to gain access to these resources.
3) You have no other easier method to communicate with other knowledgeable persons.
It is a great thing they did that then. And the costs were low because the goal was an altruistic quest for knowledge and betterment of society in general.
Now:
1) We don't need physical tree-made books, yet they keep forcing students to buy super-expensive books containing educational knowledge commonly found elsewhere for free.
2) We have the Internet and access to the entirety of mankinds' knowledge from the trashiest of computer devices connected to the slowest of slow Internet connection.
3) We have a fantastic array of useful real-time and saved methods to communicate with each other.
Modern education's greatest success is convincing you that you need them in order to learn. Today we are a GPL society.
Kudos to you. You're welcome to write that extra check on your taxes and pay more anytime you want to. People always get magnanimous about paying more taxes but then do not just willingly pay more themselves. Have you actually written a check to pay extra than you needed on your taxes? There's a line there to help pay down the national debt. Here, run along an live up to your words https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm
My point here is the whole reason this OP thread "hurts" or "matters" is because the school's tuition is soo high that the university employee's "freebee" sizably impacts their tax obligation. The problem is not that it impacts their tax obligation; it's that the tuition is too high.
If you do not agree with that, then you are either directly involved in the criminal syndicate of higher education or are very ignorant yourself of the outrageous cost increases of higher education in the last 30+ years. Not one meaningful aspect of the costs in our society has increased anywhere near as much as the cost of higher education.
And most of all, the real hoodwink of higher education has been to convince people that you need to go to college to actually learn. That you cannot teach yourself. I've been to both BS and MS in Computer Engineering and know full well that most of my learning occurred because I did the 5 hours outside of class work per the 1 hour of inside. College at most, is just a reading list of current affairs. I would think most Slashdot'er would be of that mindset, not slavingly wanting the state to pay for and control their learning.
Pay your taxes or demand lower tuition. There is no option #3.
Well, maybe there is a candidate for #3 https://github.com/ossu/computer-science
I challenge both of your points.
Please present source'd information that shows the majority of employees (50%+) at a university or college are graduate students. This includes everyone from the chancellor to the facilities maintenance persons.
Please present source'd information that show the majority of students (50%+) at a university or college do not pay full tuition. What does not qualify for part of that majority is those students who are charged full tuition but get scholarships or grants that pay some/all of their costs; someone still gets the $50k to spend whether it comes directly from the student or is given to the institution on behalf of the student.
These are criminal enterprises.
The school knows they can raise the tuition virtually as high as they want over the long term because the financial aid racket will just find a way to increase the amount that can be found/borrowed. Because if the financial aid racket does not do that, then students cannot afford college and the financial aid racket has no customers.
Colleges and Financial Aid are in a winking contest at the expense of students.
Some day, hopefully soon, we're going to have a Harvey Weinstein moment about these tuition costs and the criminal cabal that is the university employees, administrators, and loan companies. Because someone is spending that $50k income from that student's tuition.
I'm glad the tax exempt status is going away. The only way this college crime syndicate is going to fall is when it hurts everyone everywhere.
Then we'll all have the Weinstein Effect: "Hey that college rap$d me!" "You too, huh? They rap$d me too but I didn't say anything at the time" "#metoo, they fondl$d my tuition" "Well, I didn't get rap$d but the college stood right in front of me and raised tuition by 15% per year. I still have PTSD from that!"
There a lot of bad people in this world and I'm absolutely certain anyone employed, owning, or managing a college nowadays or any business surrounding it is going to hell first. It's unconscionable what humanity has allowed to happen with education costs and the mortgaging of futures.
Yes to this. Tapes as offline backups are great protection from ransomware and intentional admin abuse. If possible, however, I'd rather have a rack of USB external hard drives to push to and then take those offline.
All-in-all, hard drives better than tape, but I think they are more susceptible to shock damage than tape, but that's offset because hard drives can handle more extreme temps compared to tape.
And then there's always the part where a lot of us have tape drive systems in libraries that are not really offline because we're too lazy rotate tapes offsite for our 3rd-tier backups.
Statistically, you're more likely to suffer an accidental delete as a need for a restore than any damage from disaster or mischief. That's where online backups excel.
I bought one of these awesome, super duper water coolers from NZXT. The Kraken X62
https://www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-x62
Pretty cool colors and what not. The control panel for it (CAM software) asks for a cloud login which then of course runs every time you login. There seemed to be a problem just after I got it where the settings for fan, pump, and colors would not save between restarts. It has a guest mode, but even that lost settings or would insist on loading with reduced functionality without the cloud login. Huge support thread ensued.
http://support.camwebapp.com/forums/252256-cam-bugs/suggestions/17316232-kraken-x62
You know it's getting bad when even a CPU cooler "requires" a cloud login to work properly.
Textbooks are certainly a scam, what is not a scam is newer knowledge. Especially the incredible rates of increased knowledge in every single discipline, scientific or otherwise, since that 1985 Caltech big hair video series was made. Since that time, all of us now have supercomputers on our desk totally connected together globally.
And yes, I am certain a Physics textbook from 2017 is vastly better than 1985 one. Whether it should cost $200 and if a 2018 is that much better than a 2017 one, is certainly doubtful.
I'm not going to apologize for laughing at the OP's referral to a 30+ year old video series in an attempt make the point that today's college lecture system is broken.
"in 2000 the BOOMERanG experiment reported that the highest power fluctuations occur at scales of approximately one degree, showing that the Universe is close to flat. These measurements were able to rule out cosmic strings as the leading theory of cosmic structure formation, and suggested cosmic inflation was the correct theory."
I know, I know, in 1985 the universe was supposed to expand and then collapse. What a difference 30 years makes.
"WMAP’s measurements played the key role in establishing the Standard Model of Cosmology, namely the Lambda-CDM model, which posits a dark energy-dominated flat universe, supplemented by dark matter and atoms with density fluctuations seeded by a Gaussian, adiabatic, nearly scale invariant process. Its basic properties are determined by six adjustable parameters: dark matter density, baryon (atom) density, the universe’s age (or equivalently, the Hubble constant), the initial fluctuation amplitude and their scale dependence."
Yeah, in 1985 they knew that? They just couldn't be bothered to tell anyone.
How about the work on Dark Energy since then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
Or Dark Matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
But I would miss the quaintness of 1985 Caltech review of the planet Pluto
Great. Show me your 1985-published Physics book from the 2017 Caltech bookstore on the Physics class list of required reading.
The last thing I'm watching when I'm out and about science'ing is any piece of info more than 5 years old. Look at any astronomy-related video on Netflix prior to 2010. For a real good laugh, go watch Carl Sagan's Cosmos (which I loved way back then and nowadays too).
I'm all about modern school, especially college, being broken and not really of more value than a reading list. Seems they are best for learning how to be a snowflake under the tutelage of all those college employees feeding on your student loans.
30+ year old Physics material is your recommendation to counter current bad classroom lecture! Really? I was actually intrigued by the referral until I saw the copywrite date.
Guess how much has changed in Physics, especially Astrophysics, in 30 years? That CalTech material might as well be flat-earth howto's
Hahaha What a great auction!!! Quick, sell your RedHat stock to pay for this auction!!!! What. Oh yeah, that stuff's less than IPO now, right??