In case anybody reading this thread doesn't know what someone whose "social engineering skills are astonishing" is classified as in normal society here it is in more clear, mainstream language: Mitnick is a pathological liar.
I guess some people think that makes him a technical wizard. The rest of us think otherwise.
Kevin is the one who did what others could not or did not dare to do.
You've forgotten a category of people. The others who did not do it because it was wrong to do.
Some of us can think beyond "if I do that I would get punished, so I dare not do it" and develop a sense of what's right and what's wrong. Obviously there are other people who never reach that level of maturity. Their loss. Oh well.
The opaque silvery plastic bag that Pokemon cards come in would probably prove adequate. If it wasn't durable enough to prevent shopwear, put the bagged CD in a cardboard sleeve.
Actually, if you have a more disagreement with copyrights, you shouldn't waste your time GPLing anything. And you shouldn't complain if XYZ corporation takes Linux, embraces and extends it, and puts any number of companies like Red Hat out of business. Because if you don't agree that copyrights should exist, you don't believe in the copyright protection that the GPL provides.
We now know that Mr. I-Decide-What-Gets-In-The Kernel (Mr. Torvalds) is a partisan player on one particular low-power hardware platform. Will this come to mean that kernel development for other low-power platforms (the StrongARM comes to mind...) will suffer? I certainly can't see Transmeta being overly enthusiastic about paying Linus for further optimisation-for-portability changes that benefit their competitors.
Maybe it's a moot point, though, as NetBSD is a more finished OS for the StrongARM anyway, and for embedded work doesn't drag along the GPL baggage.
As long as you hide your gender and ethnic background, you perpetuate the myth that nobody with that gender and/or ethnic background has anything worth hearing to say. Because you reinforce the stereotype by not being an example contrary to it.
Life was beautiful, teletypes were UPPER CASE ONLY and smelled like hot oil. The internet was more 'credentialed' and we all paid for it even though less than 1% of us were entitled to use it.
The music CDs at the library are so scratched up that even CD Paranoia often can't recover the tracks. And I am talking about obscure classical music (i.e. 20th Century Avant-Guarde stuff). I suspect pop musick is even more beat up.
It used to contain links and/or copies of most of the MP3 utilities one could want.
Now it has a few select choices. A few weeks ago I wanted a MP3 to Wave conversion utility that I distinctly remembered being there awhile back. No such thing to be found now. I wanted to convert some 'olde-radio-program' MP3s (Goon Show episodes) to wav format to burn on CD audio and send to my dad.
In fact, MP3 decoding software that feed to anything other than a sound card seem to be disappearing all over the place. I have this theory that it's the corporate types trying to snare MP3 in and make it a one way conversion path.
Rights are part of the framework that defines a society. What "you consider right" thankfully is just your opinion, and that of an isolated minority of cranks. Please feel free to act on your beliefs, but please don't complain when you're given a mandatory warm place to sleep as a result of your actions.
Well, I have the first Infomagic "Unix" CD (SLS Linux, 386.BSD, and NetBSD), and the first release of Yggdrasil. And I have a full boxed Windows 1.03. Don't try and out-dinosaur those bucko!
The Glint problem wasn't a security fix. But it was an ironic package to have failed, as it's the program many people used at the time to apply package fixes.
And I haven't noticed any additional bugs in Red Hat distributions, because I haven't made the mistake of using Red Hat since then.
I'd rather delay a package for a day than having to release yet another security update for the same package the next day...
That is why Glint (which was the graphical pagkage manager software people used to use to install RPM packages, including updates and bugfixes) was broken on the Red Hat 5.0 CD-ROMs, right? Because Red Hat cares about quality, eh? All anybody would have had to do to find that particular bug was install a copy of Red Hat using the ISO before it was shipped to the presses, and run Glint once. Somehow it made it out and into the release.
Maybe quality has improved as the customer base has exploded and the top managers have gotten flashier sports cars. I tend to suspect not.
Failure to do so could irrevocably damage our extremely fragile understanding of those ancient times.
To me this kind of thinking is "think of the scientists" thinking in the same vein as the "think of the children" moaning we hear all the time.
If you want to prevent "irrevocable damage of our extremely fragile understanding" of history, we should stop the funding of archaeological digs right now. We will be better capable of interpreting the traces of evidence in the future, so we should send the diggers home now. The more traces of the past that archaeologists dig out of places where it's been preserved for eons and put into steel, glass, and wood buildings, the more information they destroy.
Yes, I know that paleontology and archeology are different branches of science. What I say above about desecrating grave diggers is also true of those who uproot and damage the fossil record.
Send those "scientists" home. They're really out there digging for grant funding anyhow.
I find it dismaying how often 'opensource' is used like a verb lately. It's as if people think that 'opening the source' is some magical act that makes the code portable and buildable from a tarball.
Mozilla is an illustration of the problems in "open sourcing" something: The Mozilla folks eventually recognized that it was a loss and just reimplemented the project as an open-from-the-start project.
When I hear about someone "opensourcing" something previously closed, I visualize someone with a sharp knife "opening" a dead fish.
It's $150 for an upgrade from Windows NT (after the $70 rebate). If you don't have an NT license it's $350 or so for a full license. There's no upgrade path from Windows 95/98.
I am still coasting along on my continuing upgrade of the 1992 beta of 3.1 that I got for like $30. (pre-3.1 to 3.51 to 4.0 to W2K). Incidentally, I spent 'big bucks' on new hardware (about $1200 for a 486-33 motherboard/cpu and 16M of ram) to run NT 3.1 way-back-when, and it paid off the most when I soon afterwards came upon Yggdrasil's first edition of "Plug and Play Linux," which was far more interesting than NT at v3.1.
The further danger is that if kids are exposed to "free" Linux at school, it will come to be associated with the dusty chalkboards, the faint smell of vomit in the halls, and all the rest. Kids will squirm in their seats thinking about when they can get home to their flashy Windows/Mac machine with much better games and multimedia.
If Linux wants to become the "Ralph Nader" of operating systems, this is the road to travel down.
If you've never heard of "da box" effect, here's an explanation:
Ever noticed that print ads in magazines for software always include an isometric view of the box that the software comes in? This is even true when it's software that doesn't come in a box. "da box" apparently gives people some assurance that what they are purchasing is real, that it's not just magnetic domains on a spinning disk inside their computer.
Until a product has "da box" it's nothing. Thousands of FTP sites across the net can't counter that perception.
Red Hat Linux comes in "da box." I've even noticed recently that the Slackware site (www.slackware.com) has a bitmap of "da box" on their page (lord help us!)
As far as I can tell Red Hat Linux has been "freely available" for as long as it's been in existence. That's what the FTP site is all about.
I did elicit a rather uncomfortable response a few years ago, though, when I asked a Red Hat rep at a demo they were doing if it was legal to duplicate Red Hat 5.0 CD-ROMs out of a box set.
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In fairness, we either need to ease up on the Mitnicks or come down harder on violent criminals.
Or, perhaps, we could come down harder on violent criminals, and continue to lock up pathological liars like Keven Mitnick.
his social engineering skills is astonishing
In case anybody reading this thread doesn't know what someone whose "social engineering skills are astonishing" is classified as in normal society here it is in more clear, mainstream language: Mitnick is a pathological liar.
I guess some people think that makes him a technical wizard. The rest of us think otherwise.
Kevin is the one who did what others could not or did not dare to do.
You've forgotten a category of people. The others who did not do it because it was wrong to do.
Some of us can think beyond "if I do that I would get punished, so I dare not do it" and develop a sense of what's right and what's wrong. Obviously there are other people who never reach that level of maturity. Their loss. Oh well.
The opaque silvery plastic bag that Pokemon cards come in would probably prove adequate. If it wasn't durable enough to prevent shopwear, put the bagged CD in a cardboard sleeve.
Wrong. Completely wrong.
Your long antenna cable is narrowcasting to you alone.
This business is broadcasting to the public.
There is a significant difference.
Actually, if you have a more disagreement with copyrights, you shouldn't waste your time GPLing anything. And you shouldn't complain if XYZ corporation takes Linux, embraces and extends it, and puts any number of companies like Red Hat out of business. Because if you don't agree that copyrights should exist, you don't believe in the copyright protection that the GPL provides.
We now know that Mr. I-Decide-What-Gets-In-The Kernel (Mr. Torvalds) is a partisan player on one particular low-power hardware platform. Will this come to mean that kernel development for other low-power platforms (the StrongARM comes to mind...) will suffer? I certainly can't see Transmeta being overly enthusiastic about paying Linus for further optimisation-for-portability changes that benefit their competitors.
Maybe it's a moot point, though, as NetBSD is a more finished OS for the StrongARM anyway, and for embedded work doesn't drag along the GPL baggage.
As long as you hide your gender and ethnic background, you perpetuate the myth that nobody with that gender and/or ethnic background has anything worth hearing to say. Because you reinforce the stereotype by not being an example contrary to it.
Life was beautiful, teletypes were UPPER CASE ONLY and smelled like hot oil. The internet was more 'credentialed' and we all paid for it even though less than 1% of us were entitled to use it.
Whatever.
The music CDs at the library are so scratched up that even CD Paranoia often can't recover the tracks. And I am talking about obscure classical music (i.e. 20th Century Avant-Guarde stuff). I suspect pop musick is even more beat up.
Check out the Utilities area on MP3.com.
It used to contain links and/or copies of most of the MP3 utilities one could want.
Now it has a few select choices. A few weeks ago I wanted a MP3 to Wave conversion utility that I distinctly remembered being there awhile back. No such thing to be found now. I wanted to convert some 'olde-radio-program' MP3s (Goon Show episodes) to wav format to burn on CD audio and send to my dad.
In fact, MP3 decoding software that feed to anything other than a sound card seem to be disappearing all over the place. I have this theory that it's the corporate types trying to snare MP3 in and make it a one way conversion path.
If Microsoft were smart, they'd even send you a nice $15 frame to put it in. Considering that it would mean a $500 check never clearing....
Rights are part of the framework that defines a society. What "you consider right" thankfully is just your opinion, and that of an isolated minority of cranks. Please feel free to act on your beliefs, but please don't complain when you're given a mandatory warm place to sleep as a result of your actions.
Well, I have the first Infomagic "Unix" CD (SLS Linux, 386.BSD, and NetBSD), and the first release of Yggdrasil. And I have a full boxed Windows 1.03. Don't try and out-dinosaur those bucko!
I think I was wrong. It was in the 5.1 release.
The Glint problem wasn't a security fix. But it was an ironic package to have failed, as it's the program many people used at the time to apply package fixes.
And I haven't noticed any additional bugs in Red Hat distributions, because I haven't made the mistake of using Red Hat since then.
I'd rather delay a package for a day than having to release yet another security update for the same package the next day...
That is why Glint (which was the graphical pagkage manager software people used to use to install RPM packages, including updates and bugfixes) was broken on the Red Hat 5.0 CD-ROMs, right? Because Red Hat cares about quality, eh? All anybody would have had to do to find that particular bug was install a copy of Red Hat using the ISO before it was shipped to the presses, and run Glint once. Somehow it made it out and into the release.
Maybe quality has improved as the customer base has exploded and the top managers have gotten flashier sports cars. I tend to suspect not.
Failure to do so could irrevocably damage our extremely fragile understanding of those ancient times.
To me this kind of thinking is "think of the scientists" thinking in the same vein as the "think of the children" moaning we hear all the time.
If you want to prevent "irrevocable damage of our extremely fragile understanding" of history, we should stop the funding of archaeological digs right now. We will be better capable of interpreting the traces of evidence in the future, so we should send the diggers home now. The more traces of the past that archaeologists dig out of places where it's been preserved for eons and put into steel, glass, and wood buildings, the more information they destroy.
Yes, I know that paleontology and archeology are different branches of science. What I say above about desecrating grave diggers is also true of those who uproot and damage the fossil record.
Send those "scientists" home. They're really out there digging for grant funding anyhow.
I find it dismaying how often 'opensource' is used like a verb lately. It's as if people think that 'opening the source' is some magical act that makes the code portable and buildable from a tarball.
Mozilla is an illustration of the problems in "open sourcing" something: The Mozilla folks eventually recognized that it was a loss and just reimplemented the project as an open-from-the-start project.
When I hear about someone "opensourcing" something previously closed, I visualize someone with a sharp knife "opening" a dead fish.
It's $150 for an upgrade from Windows NT (after the $70 rebate). If you don't have an NT license it's $350 or so for a full license. There's no upgrade path from Windows 95/98.
I am still coasting along on my continuing upgrade of the 1992 beta of 3.1 that I got for like $30. (pre-3.1 to 3.51 to 4.0 to W2K). Incidentally, I spent 'big bucks' on new hardware (about $1200 for a 486-33 motherboard/cpu and 16M of ram) to run NT 3.1 way-back-when, and it paid off the most when I soon afterwards came upon Yggdrasil's first edition of "Plug and Play Linux," which was far more interesting than NT at v3.1.
The further danger is that if kids are exposed to "free" Linux at school, it will come to be associated with the dusty chalkboards, the faint smell of vomit in the halls, and all the rest. Kids will squirm in their seats thinking about when they can get home to their flashy Windows/Mac machine with much better games and multimedia.
If Linux wants to become the "Ralph Nader" of operating systems, this is the road to travel down.
discounts for technical support?
I thought it said "Free" up there somewhere.
Microsoft gives away copies of Office 2000 to schools. They don't give "free" support either.
The shiny box comes with the "da box" effect.
If you've never heard of "da box" effect, here's an explanation:
Ever noticed that print ads in magazines for software always include an isometric view of the box that the software comes in? This is even true when it's software that doesn't come in a box. "da box" apparently gives people some assurance that what they are purchasing is real, that it's not just magnetic domains on a spinning disk inside their computer.
Until a product has "da box" it's nothing. Thousands of FTP sites across the net can't counter that perception.
Red Hat Linux comes in "da box." I've even noticed recently that the Slackware site (www.slackware.com) has a bitmap of "da box" on their page (lord help us!)
Where did you read that?
As far as I can tell Red Hat Linux has been "freely available" for as long as it's been in existence. That's what the FTP site is all about.
I did elicit a rather uncomfortable response a few years ago, though, when I asked a Red Hat rep at a demo they were doing if it was legal to duplicate Red Hat 5.0 CD-ROMs out of a box set.
Yes kids, the revolutionaries become the establishment, every time. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was....
And, to lay a blow where it should hurt (paying attention, Rob?)
*Townsend riff*
"We won't get fooled again...."