If this is true, I don't know, it shoud have been explicitely stated. The way I read it was that GNU decided to incorporate XFree86 w/o XFree86's permission. Why would XFree86 want to be part of the GNU project? That would imply that it works only w/ GNU software, but last I checked it ran on BSD and OS/2 just fine. If someone knows if XFree86 requested to be lumped under the GNU title please enlighten us all.
XFree86 falls under the title GNU because GNU adopted it? Fine, I now adopt all software that compiles under Linux. So you don't use Linux or GNU/Linux, you use Matt/Linux. You're going to like it or I'll spam the linux kernel mailing list complaining that you aren't giving me the credit I deserve. Sure I had nothing to do with 99.999999% of the software anyone uses (I have written some stuff and released it into the wild, just most of it wasn't widly used). This sounds really stupid but no more so than the FSF claiming that XFree86 falls under the title of "GNU Software" just because the "adopted" it. Last I checked XFree86 was in no way related, it isn't even GPL'd. As for lynx, it was developed by a group of people working at the University of Kansas (from the man page). I don't see FSF listed as one of the authors.
I'm really sick and tired of the FSF for trying to take credit for things that aren't theirs to take credit for. Linux is the prime example of this. Linux uses some FSF owned tools, but it's perfectly useable w/o them. The Demon Linux project is an example of this (they are supposedly making a distribution with no FSF owned software). They don't deserve any credit for the kernel. They do deserve credit for helping the free software movement and for any tools developed by the FSF.
It's because of arogance like this that I will NEVER call Linux GNU/Linux (or even worse lignux, atleast people say RMS was kidding with that one, I really hope so). To me it seems like RMS is just miffed that Linus/Linux is stealing all of the show. Guess what RMS, w/o Linux no one would give a damn about the FSF. Hurd has been vaporware for a long time now, and it will probally be quite sometime before it's completely useable.
I would prefer if RMS and the FSF would just shutup and stop trying to force their ideology on us. I don't care what you think I should call my system. I use Linux, I have for years, and I will continue running Linux for years. If you really want GNU/Linux start your own dist called "GNU/Linux". Until then shutup.
Hrm...it seemed shorter. Oh well, I can't wait for 2.3.xx. I personally dislike this whole stable thing. Where is the fun if you don't get to test out new drivers that are probally going to crash your system?
Am I the only one who thought he saw bill gates' head in the hall of criminals? It was really fast and I'm probally wrong, but it would be really cool if it was.
You obviously didn't pay attention in history class. Worker's rights laws and anti-discrimination laws were brought about because bussinesses were treating workers unfairly and workers accpeted it because they had no choice. If bussinesses could treat their employees in any way they wanted do you think any bussiness would offer lunch breaks or 8hour work days or pay you a decent salary? It didn't work in the past.
Also, w/ regards to minimum wage, if you took a highschool level economics course you'd realise that w/o a minimum wage people who are making minimum wage wouldn't be making nearly as much money, more people would have jobs however.
It might actually be the students fault. American students have an AWFUL work ethic. They expect to take a course, show up, and get a B. If they actually have to do work, or open the book, or *gasp* think on their own, the teacher is awful and expects too much. At my highschool this happens a lot with one teacher. He expects students to do the work, and read the books he assigns. People don't do it and they fail. He doesn't believe in failing students so he gives them Ds. I've also seen people get As in his class. He just refuses to lower his standards to the students.
The only problem is what if you sue a huge company with a legitimate problem. Their legal fees will be huge, yours will be next to nothing for them. Now if you lose (as I'm sure we all know, winning a case doesn't depend on being right, it depends on how good your lawyer is) you are in a deep mess of trouble. I think SOMETHING needs to be done about the legal system in this country though. It's gotten completely out of hand. Basically people are stupid, and they don't want to accept the consequences of their actions.
That's why a lot of places will hire kids and pay them good money w/o a degree. I'm still in highschool, yet I have a job where if I worked full time, I would make more than twice the average starting salary for someone getting out of college. The really frightening part is that if I worked full time, I would make more than my father does. Then again, having 14years of computer experience at the age of 18 should count for something.
Now as much as I dislike most teachers, especially the ones who seem to get off on failing students, this is just stupid. So you failed a course, deal with it. "I had to do more than point and click. I had to think!" Is this what the US is coming to? You are too lazy to pass a course so you sue the teacher. Grow up. Does this mean that when you get fired because you don't do your job right you can sue your boss? How bout when you get arrested for shoplifting, you just sue the store. "They made the security system too hard to get around." I really hope the judge laughs at the students and tells them to get a clue. People in this country really need to start taking responsibility for their actions.
Not to mention that you can't afford a cpu that can emulate a PSX2. I wonder if one even exists. When you think about it the SNES was i think about a 2mhz cpu, my pentium-II 300 gets about 45-50fps using the latest release of snes9x w/ pentiumpro optimizations and -O9. So a 300mhz cpu can't even fully emulate a 2 mhz cpu (I know it doesn't work out completely like this but it's enough to get my point across). The PSX2 has some amazing hardware, I know nothing in the desktop market will come anywhere close to emulating it for some time, and I doubt even high end servers will be able to do anything similar, unless you get a $1million system, but if you have that kind of money to throw around you could easily afford to just buy a PSX2. Oh wait, I don't think beowulf's been mentioned yet: maybe a beowulf cluster would be able to do a decent job emulating a PSX2 for only $100,000 (I feel better now).
If domains are property now this whole situations brings up a very interesting question. Many jurisdictions allow use of deadly force to defend your property. Now if someone is trying to hijack your domain name would you be able to use an internet equivalent of deadly force? Now I realise that this wouldn't apply here because Theos Software had lawyers and that, by some magic I will never understand, makes everything they do nice and legal. But what about if someone is trying to steal a domain name from you by some other method, say hacking your DNS server, or hacking InterNIC (with all the stuff that's been going on with them lately it wouldn't surprise me in the least), would you be able to "kill" them to defend your property. I really don't know what an internet version of death would be exactly, perhaps a crontab'd DoS or something else of that nature.
Actually I don't think that they would have had a legal leg to stand on. The way I understand trademark law is that if a trademark conflicts with your name that trademark doesn't apply to you. Ie. a company could trademark the word "matt" but I could still use it in any way I wished. Theo is de Raadt's name, theos is a very obvious extention of his name (theo's), therefor trademark law does not apply. If anyone has any legal knowledge and would like to confirm what I said (or point out that I'm an idiot) please do.
You don't sue a white blood cell for attacking a virus. IMHO this is the same thing. They invade our territory and we fight back in anyway we can. If they are going to pull a stupid stunt like this they better be prepared for the lashing they will take. If they truely believe in their cause they will continue w/ their actions, if not they will end their attacks. These type of people should be treated for the viruses that they are. I say FIGHT ON SLASHDOT IMMUE SYSTEM!!!
(I'm running on about 30 seconds of sleep w/ a nasty cold)
I figured you were probally getting enough angry stuff and complaints so I figured I'd just say that I like it. Rob, you're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
Microsoft may only have 90% of the market and people may be free to install linux but that doesn't mean it will happen. People (especially in the US) are incredibly lazy. They want everything and they want to do nothing for it. The average computer user doesn't want to know how to install Linux or how to install Windows or anything else for that matter. They want to buy a computer and have everything work out of the box.
Now do you think that someone is going to spend hours downloading and installing netscape when IE comes with their computer? Most people don't have T1s or cable modems at their disposal. The same goes for Linux. Do you think the average computer user is going to install linux or use what came with their computer. They are going to use what came with their computer, they are lazy. Despite what most people will say Linux w/ KDE or GNOME installed isn't that much more difficult to use than win95, certainly not any harder than DOS + win3.1.
The reason Linux doesn't come pre-installed is that the revenue gained by pre-installing linux is far less than the revenue that would be lost by upsetting microsoft and putting oem contracts in danger. Most(all) computer companies are more concerned about making money than doing what is fair and right for the industry. Microsoft is the same way.
Anti-trust laws are NEEDED. You might think that the law is overreaching but I fully disagree. Monopolies are very dangerous, and while they seldom are 100%, they don't need to be to be effective. Sure anyone can write software and sell it, but what happens most of the time, if the product is anygood, the company will soon be aquired by microsoft and the competition dies. If the product is bad it will die a natural death.
In short, as much as I hate when the government gets involved in things, since it has a tendency to mess things up worse that they were originally, sometimes it is required for the government to step in when someone oversteps their bounds. I believe microsoft has not only overstepped its bounds it deficated on them.
Actually, YES, linux can. Modules allow exactly that. RedHat configures the kernel for your system through the use of modules. When you install it scans for your SCSI card, NIC, etc. and loads the appropriate modules for those cards. Or you could have a MASSIVE kernel w/ all of the drivers compiled in, I would recommend against this, but it's possible.
I cast thee out from the land of slashdot for crimes against the church of the nerd. TIC of course. I really hope i'm not dissapointed when i see the prequil. I actually haven't even seen any trailers. I want my mind to be pure when i see the movie.
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If this is true, I don't know, it shoud have been explicitely stated. The way I read it was that GNU decided to incorporate XFree86 w/o XFree86's permission. Why would XFree86 want to be part of the GNU project? That would imply that it works only w/ GNU software, but last I checked it ran on BSD and OS/2 just fine. If someone knows if XFree86 requested to be lumped under the GNU title please enlighten us all.
XFree86 falls under the title GNU because GNU adopted it? Fine, I now adopt all software that compiles under Linux. So you don't use Linux or GNU/Linux, you use Matt/Linux. You're going to like it or I'll spam the linux kernel mailing list complaining that you aren't giving me the credit I deserve. Sure I had nothing to do with 99.999999% of the software anyone uses (I have written some stuff and released it into the wild, just most of it wasn't widly used). This sounds really stupid but no more so than the FSF claiming that XFree86 falls under the title of "GNU Software" just because the "adopted" it. Last I checked XFree86 was in no way related, it isn't even GPL'd. As for lynx, it was developed by a group of people working at the University of Kansas (from the man page). I don't see FSF listed as one of the authors.
I'm really sick and tired of the FSF for trying to take credit for things that aren't theirs to take credit for. Linux is the prime example of this. Linux uses some FSF owned tools, but it's perfectly useable w/o them. The Demon Linux project is an example of this (they are supposedly making a distribution with no FSF owned software). They don't deserve any credit for the kernel. They do deserve credit for helping the free software movement and for any tools developed by the FSF.
It's because of arogance like this that I will NEVER call Linux GNU/Linux (or even worse lignux, atleast people say RMS was kidding with that one, I really hope so). To me it seems like RMS is just miffed that Linus/Linux is stealing all of the show. Guess what RMS, w/o Linux no one would give a damn about the FSF. Hurd has been vaporware for a long time now, and it will probally be quite sometime before it's completely useable.
I would prefer if RMS and the FSF would just shutup and stop trying to force their ideology on us. I don't care what you think I should call my system. I use Linux, I have for years, and I will continue running Linux for years. If you really want GNU/Linux start your own dist called "GNU/Linux". Until then shutup.
Hrm...it seemed shorter. Oh well, I can't wait for 2.3.xx. I personally dislike this whole stable thing. Where is the fun if you don't get to test out new drivers that are probally going to crash your system?
How long did it take last time for the devel branch to start? I thought it was something like a month or two.
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Am I the only one who thought he saw bill gates' head in the hall of criminals? It was really fast and I'm probally wrong, but it would be really cool if it was.
Old fortran!
btw, the link is www.transmetta.com, notice the extra t.
You obviously didn't pay attention in history class. Worker's rights laws and anti-discrimination laws were brought about because bussinesses were treating workers unfairly and workers accpeted it because they had no choice. If bussinesses could treat their employees in any way they wanted do you think any bussiness would offer lunch breaks or 8hour work days or pay you a decent salary? It didn't work in the past.
Also, w/ regards to minimum wage, if you took a highschool level economics course you'd realise that w/o a minimum wage people who are making minimum wage wouldn't be making nearly as much money, more people would have jobs however.
As long as none of the toppings are gay it shouldn't be a problem...
It might actually be the students fault. American students have an AWFUL work ethic. They expect to take a course, show up, and get a B. If they actually have to do work, or open the book, or *gasp* think on their own, the teacher is awful and expects too much. At my highschool this happens a lot with one teacher. He expects students to do the work, and read the books he assigns. People don't do it and they fail. He doesn't believe in failing students so he gives them Ds. I've also seen people get As in his class. He just refuses to lower his standards to the students.
The only problem is what if you sue a huge company with a legitimate problem. Their legal fees will be huge, yours will be next to nothing for them. Now if you lose (as I'm sure we all know, winning a case doesn't depend on being right, it depends on how good your lawyer is) you are in a deep mess of trouble. I think SOMETHING needs to be done about the legal system in this country though. It's gotten completely out of hand. Basically people are stupid, and they don't want to accept the consequences of their actions.
That's why a lot of places will hire kids and pay them good money w/o a degree. I'm still in highschool, yet I have a job where if I worked full time, I would make more than twice the average starting salary for someone getting out of college. The really frightening part is that if I worked full time, I would make more than my father does. Then again, having 14years of computer experience at the age of 18 should count for something.
Now as much as I dislike most teachers, especially the ones who seem to get off on failing students, this is just stupid. So you failed a course, deal with it. "I had to do more than point and click. I had to think!" Is this what the US is coming to? You are too lazy to pass a course so you sue the teacher. Grow up. Does this mean that when you get fired because you don't do your job right you can sue your boss? How bout when you get arrested for shoplifting, you just sue the store. "They made the security system too hard to get around." I really hope the judge laughs at the students and tells them to get a clue. People in this country really need to start taking responsibility for their actions.
Not to mention that you can't afford a cpu that can emulate a PSX2. I wonder if one even exists. When you think about it the SNES was i think about a 2mhz cpu, my pentium-II 300 gets about 45-50fps using the latest release of snes9x w/ pentiumpro optimizations and -O9. So a 300mhz cpu can't even fully emulate a 2 mhz cpu (I know it doesn't work out completely like this but it's enough to get my point across). The PSX2 has some amazing hardware, I know nothing in the desktop market will come anywhere close to emulating it for some time, and I doubt even high end servers will be able to do anything similar, unless you get a $1million system, but if you have that kind of money to throw around you could easily afford to just buy a PSX2. Oh wait, I don't think beowulf's been mentioned yet: maybe a beowulf cluster would be able to do a decent job emulating a PSX2 for only $100,000 (I feel better now).
(I'm not a lawyer but I play one on
If domains are property now this whole situations brings up a very interesting question. Many jurisdictions allow use of deadly force to defend your property. Now if someone is trying to hijack your domain name would you be able to use an internet equivalent of deadly force? Now I realise that this wouldn't apply here because Theos Software had lawyers and that, by some magic I will never understand, makes everything they do nice and legal. But what about if someone is trying to steal a domain name from you by some other method, say hacking your DNS server, or hacking InterNIC (with all the stuff that's been going on with them lately it wouldn't surprise me in the least), would you be able to "kill" them to defend your property. I really don't know what an internet version of death would be exactly, perhaps a crontab'd DoS or something else of that nature.
Actually I don't think that they would have had a legal leg to stand on. The way I understand trademark law is that if a trademark conflicts with your name that trademark doesn't apply to you. Ie. a company could trademark the word "matt" but I could still use it in any way I wished. Theo is de Raadt's name, theos is a very obvious extention of his name (theo's), therefor trademark law does not apply. If anyone has any legal knowledge and would like to confirm what I said (or point out that I'm an idiot) please do.
You don't sue a white blood cell for attacking a virus. IMHO this is the same thing. They invade our territory and we fight back in anyway we can. If they are going to pull a stupid stunt like this they better be prepared for the lashing they will take. If they truely believe in their cause they will continue w/ their actions, if not they will end their attacks. These type of people should be treated for the viruses that they are. I say FIGHT ON SLASHDOT IMMUE SYSTEM!!!
(I'm running on about 30 seconds of sleep w/ a nasty cold)
I figured you were probally getting enough angry stuff and complaints so I figured I'd just say that I like it. Rob, you're doing a great job. Keep up the good work.
Microsoft may only have 90% of the market and people may be free to install linux but that doesn't mean it will happen. People (especially in the US) are incredibly lazy. They want everything and they want to do nothing for it. The average computer user doesn't want to know how to install Linux or how to install Windows or anything else for that matter. They want to buy a computer and have everything work out of the box.
Now do you think that someone is going to spend hours downloading and installing netscape when IE comes with their computer? Most people don't have T1s or cable modems at their disposal. The same goes for Linux. Do you think the average computer user is going to install linux or use what came with their computer. They are going to use what came with their computer, they are lazy. Despite what most people will say Linux w/ KDE or GNOME installed isn't that much more difficult to use than win95, certainly not any harder than DOS + win3.1.
The reason Linux doesn't come pre-installed is that the revenue gained by pre-installing linux is far less than the revenue that would be lost by upsetting microsoft and putting oem contracts in danger. Most(all) computer companies are more concerned about making money than doing what is fair and right for the industry. Microsoft is the same way.
Anti-trust laws are NEEDED. You might think that the law is overreaching but I fully disagree. Monopolies are very dangerous, and while they seldom are 100%, they don't need to be to be effective. Sure anyone can write software and sell it, but what happens most of the time, if the product is anygood, the company will soon be aquired by microsoft and the competition dies. If the product is bad it will die a natural death.
In short, as much as I hate when the government gets involved in things, since it has a tendency to mess things up worse that they were originally, sometimes it is required for the government to step in when someone oversteps their bounds. I believe microsoft has not only overstepped its bounds it deficated on them.
Actually, YES, linux can. Modules allow exactly that. RedHat configures the kernel for your system through the use of modules. When you install it scans for your SCSI card, NIC, etc. and loads the appropriate modules for those cards. Or you could have a MASSIVE kernel w/ all of the drivers compiled in, I would recommend against this, but it's possible.
I cast thee out from the land of slashdot for crimes against the church of the nerd. TIC of course. I really hope i'm not dissapointed when i see the prequil. I actually haven't even seen any trailers. I want my mind to be pure when i see the movie.
especially the nested thing. I've wanted that for a long time. Good job slashdot.
Look at elementary schools. They are flooded w/ macs. It was only recently that any educational institution started using wintel boxes.
i THINK it was a joke. I hope so atleast.