"Science is self correcting, meaning it is flawed. " no. that's why it isn't flawed. Science is self correcting based on new data. A scientific field isn't complete, but science as a field and method isn't flawed. It would be flawed if it didn't change based on new information.
haha. no, read the references. They are pretty much excuse making and cheery picking to confirm their belief.
" And wouldn't the existence, and even the sometimes contradictory accounts of the Gnostic gospels, provide a more evidence of an actual historic figure whose image was "stomped over", rather than one made up out of whole cloth?" No, why would you think that?
Nope. In fact it looks like 'Jesus' is an combination of at least three people. Based on dates of events, location, from different letters. Of course the bible was written by men how said 'These 12 people are honest, wouldn't lie or make things up, and never checked them. If you look at cults* and their behavior, you see striking similarity with the apostles, and other religion older the Christianity.
Then it gain political power and the rest is bloody history
Which is why it's alarming that the religious right is gaining so much power.
*for brevity, cult will be short hand for small start up religion
But we do not have anything similar when it comes to what caused the Big Bang, ranting about 14D planes colliding and creating ripples like on a pond, without any idea how those planes existed in the first place does not really strike me as a particularly sane argument
If you walked out an say the side of your car smashed in, would it not be reasonable to conclude you had been hit by a car even if you can't 'prove' a car did it?
It's like that, but with math. The fact that you can not understand it, doesn't make it insane. It makes you ignorant in that area.
Another excuse for people who can't actual base there idea on informed information.
So you attack him personally, because you got noting else except the incorrect idea that anyone gives a crap about you, and that you won't be anything but a whisper in a few decades. SO that leads you to post ad homs in what is a basic debate, that adult do.
You can stick you fake outrage your your ass. It was not an attack. He used wording that made people expect one statement, then through an surprise ending. That is not a fucking attack, and you can take you fucking outrage and shove it back up your ass. I do note that every mouth breathing stupid ass xtian used it as an excuse to verbally attack atheist.
To be clear, I am not calling Christians mouth breathing stupid ass's. just ones like you.
. A scientist's argument when dealing within their scientific expertise is more likely to be valid, yes.
It's an an appeal to authority when it's a direct refutation withing ones expertise. It's a appeal to authority if I say, he said it, he is an scientist, therefor I am right.
Also there are some follower that have to addition tenants that involve Karma; which also required an outside actor(s) to keep score. And they have sins. If there is no outside actor then who are they sinning against? Again this seems to e a knowing universe that can portion out forgiveness.
There is no God as in the creation of the universe. but there are other spiritual(unprovabale) actor involved.
From the FCC: Are cable systems required to offer "a la carte" and pay-per-view channels?
No, but they may choose to offer channels on a stand-alone basis ("a la carte") or as a pay-per-view channel. Commission rules also prohibit cable systems from requiring customers to subscribe to any tiers beyond the basic tier in order to have access to a la carte channels or pay-per-view channels offered by the system.
"..customer is no longer paying for the delivery of the goods.." yes we are. We pay for them to have an internet service, a website, and everything else you need to deliver the goods.
Commercials pay for the Show/channel. The 20 bucks is for the service, as IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN. Not a lot of people would pay and extra 100 a month for commercial free broadcasting.
Neither would you. You are either cheap., or completely clueless.
without ESPN? Please? It's really for people who like to here other people spout shit they tried really hard to fill time with. It's actual information can be smmed up in a website. I don't know why I need to subsidize a profit making network.
Of course, I have no idea why people tune in to here athletes talk.
Hey, football fans! This is what the QB is going to say: If it was a hard game or loss, he will take the blame. If it is a win, he will praise the line.
"We live in a time where not only things get complicated enough that you'd need to study everything you want to fix for a while before you could even start finding out what's broken, " false.
"more often than not some legalese bullshit is thrown between your legs where you may not even start working on something you allegedly bought. " The legalize is only to protect the manufacturer. Do you think you should b ably to pop open you device, change thing and then get the manufacturer to help you or replace it?
"You see, back in my days we did something funny with the stuff we bought: We "owned" it. It meant that we could do whatever we damn well please with the stuff we bought. " Still true.
"No such luck anymore, the more technology your gadgets contain and the more gimmicky it is, the higher the chance that you must not do anything but use it in whatever fashion the creator wants you to. No tinkering, no "fixing", no improving, and sure as HELL no talking about doing any of that!" False.
"Most technical appliances are actually defect at delivery." False.
". They refuse to do what you want, like, say, you buy a new game console and it doesn't play whatever you want it to play, despite the technical capability." You want you electronics to do what they weren't designed for by default?
" You must now not go and fix the defect so it would do what you want it to do. In some countries it's even already an offense that could cost you a nasty fine or even land you in jail to fix your broken device. Let alone do it for others." what countries?
You are utterly false and have jumped into the alarmist bullshit created by whiners.
You should be happy that you are completely wrong, but you won't be. You have self identified with a bias and crafted a false narrative from that, and as such you have an emotional investment into being right, inregardless* of the facts.
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"Science is self correcting, meaning it is flawed. "
no. that's why it isn't flawed. Science is self correcting based on new data. A scientific field isn't complete, but science as a field and method isn't flawed. It would be flawed if it didn't change based on new information.
haha. no, read the references. They are pretty much excuse making and cheery picking to confirm their belief.
" And wouldn't the existence, and even the sometimes contradictory accounts of the Gnostic gospels, provide a more evidence of an actual historic figure whose image was "stomped over", rather than one made up out of whole cloth?"
No, why would you think that?
Nope. In fact it looks like 'Jesus' is an combination of at least three people. Based on dates of events, location, from different letters.
Of course the bible was written by men how said 'These 12 people are honest, wouldn't lie or make things up, and never checked them.
If you look at cults* and their behavior, you see striking similarity with the apostles, and other religion older the Christianity.
Then it gain political power and the rest is bloody history
Which is why it's alarming that the religious right is gaining so much power.
*for brevity, cult will be short hand for small start up religion
But we do not have anything similar when it comes to what caused the Big Bang, ranting about 14D planes colliding and creating ripples like on a pond, without any idea how those planes existed in the first place does not really strike me as a particularly sane argument
If you walked out an say the side of your car smashed in, would it not be reasonable to conclude you had been hit by a car even if you can't 'prove' a car did it?
It's like that, but with math. The fact that you can not understand it, doesn't make it insane. It makes you ignorant in that area.
Another excuse for people who can't actual base there idea on informed information.
So you attack him personally, because you got noting else except the incorrect idea that anyone gives a crap about you, and that you won't be anything but a whisper in a few decades. SO that leads you to post ad homs in what is a basic debate, that adult do.
Just because a bunch of morons had the expectation meant, doesn't make it an attack, or an insult.
News to Christian: YOU DON'T FUCKING OWN DECEMBER 25th.
You can stick you fake outrage your your ass.
It was not an attack. He used wording that made people expect one statement, then through an surprise ending.
That is not a fucking attack, and you can take you fucking outrage and shove it back up your ass.
I do note that every mouth breathing stupid ass xtian used it as an excuse to verbally attack atheist.
To be clear, I am not calling Christians mouth breathing stupid ass's. just ones like you.
That you don't know what the word 'newsworthy' means.
. A scientist's argument when dealing within their scientific expertise is more likely to be valid, yes.
It's an an appeal to authority when it's a direct refutation withing ones expertise. It's a appeal to authority if I say, he said it, he is an scientist, therefor I am right.
Thomas Aquinas? seriously? have you read his works?
Do you also thing he levitated?
The god aspect is unprovable, uuntestable so you have to ignore it. Just like a child learns to ignore the monster in the closet.
good and evil is just perspective, and yes you can be an atheist abd have good and evil.
""survival of the fittest", or "thou shalt not kill""
why do you think those are mutually exclusive, pal.
good and evil is far older then any religion, pal.
This has been well covered in philosophy and many writings, PAL.
Incorrect. See: klachakra
Also there are some follower that have to addition tenants that involve Karma; which also required an outside actor(s) to keep score.
And they have sins. If there is no outside actor then who are they sinning against? Again this seems to e a knowing universe that can portion out forgiveness.
There is no God as in the creation of the universe. but there are other spiritual(unprovabale) actor involved.
"A scientists view of claims that "science proves religion" however, is likely to be *far* more valid."
Note: It says religion and not god.
Religion is provable. Easy, go to a church, see religion in action.
God is a different matter.
It's his retort on the science that's valid, Not the exists of and un-provable concept.
From the FCC:
Are cable systems required to offer "a la carte" and pay-per-view channels?
No, but they may choose to offer channels on a stand-alone basis ("a la carte") or as a pay-per-view channel. Commission rules also prohibit cable systems from requiring customers to subscribe to any tiers beyond the basic tier in order to have access to a la carte channels or pay-per-view channels offered by the system.
'Out your ass' is not a legitimate source.
"..customer is no longer paying for the delivery of the goods.."
yes we are. We pay for them to have an internet service, a website, and everything else you need to deliver the goods.
Yes, they should just go out of business.
Commercials pay for the Show/channel. The 20 bucks is for the service, as IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN.
Not a lot of people would pay and extra 100 a month for commercial free broadcasting.
Neither would you. You are either cheap., or completely clueless.
without ESPN? Please? It's really for people who like to here other people spout shit they tried really hard to fill time with. It's actual information can be smmed up in a website. I don't know why I need to subsidize a profit making network.
Of course, I have no idea why people tune in to here athletes talk.
Hey, football fans! This is what the QB is going to say:
If it was a hard game or loss, he will take the blame.
If it is a win, he will praise the line.
The hardware design is amazing. Look at the board and component layout.
Of course not the CEO prioritizes logistics over quality, and it's starting to show.
"This is not something you can do on a weekend,"
why not?
Yes, but i you had the tool, You would be able to fix it next time as well.
And you can boil water in a Microwave.
There are a bunch of how to's on Fixya about that toaster oven.
"If not outright forbidden to do so. "
false.
"We live in a time where not only things get complicated enough that you'd need to study everything you want to fix for a while before you could even start finding out what's broken, "
false.
"more often than not some legalese bullshit is thrown between your legs where you may not even start working on something you allegedly bought. "
The legalize is only to protect the manufacturer. Do you think you should b ably to pop open you device, change thing and then get the manufacturer to help you or replace it?
"You see, back in my days we did something funny with the stuff we bought: We "owned" it. It meant that we could do whatever we damn well please with the stuff we bought. "
Still true.
"No such luck anymore, the more technology your gadgets contain and the more gimmicky it is, the higher the chance that you must not do anything but use it in whatever fashion the creator wants you to. No tinkering, no "fixing", no improving, and sure as HELL no talking about doing any of that!"
False.
"Most technical appliances are actually defect at delivery."
False.
". They refuse to do what you want, like, say, you buy a new game console and it doesn't play whatever you want it to play, despite the technical capability."
You want you electronics to do what they weren't designed for by default?
" You must now not go and fix the defect so it would do what you want it to do. In some countries it's even already an offense that could cost you a nasty fine or even land you in jail to fix your broken device. Let alone do it for others."
what countries?
You are utterly false and have jumped into the alarmist bullshit created by whiners.
You should be happy that you are completely wrong, but you won't be. You have self identified with a bias and crafted a false narrative from that, and as such you have an emotional investment into being right, inregardless* of the facts.
Stop it.
*Grammar joke. Sorry.
Now there, ladies an gentlemen, is a classic false dichotomy.
People don't like the same thing as you, so you degrade them.
Is that how you feel like you matter? Give you some sort of illusion of control?
Cause that's what stupid people do.