Correct, but I always try to find a way to meet a manger and take them to lunch. Funny how when a manager says hire this guy all the HR crap means nothing. Except for government and academia, mostly.
yes yes, people who don't do what you approve of don't count of doing shit. well done.
Frankly If I had to do it over, I would g into these quick turn around starts pushing fads. It's the most likely way to get rich and retire early. Then you have more time t do whatever the hell it is you want.
Start ups means a chance and some good money. Established companies, not so much.
Now, if comnpaie would reward internal group that create new thing well, it would shift. For example: I was on a team of 20 developers and 10 Business experts and testers. IN a year we created an application that saved the company 100 million dollars a year. Are reward? a football. Ironically, we used baseball as the theme.
Now, if we would have gotten a million dollars each, we would have stayed around and created other internal application that could saved them a lot of money.
And try to understand that these systems are already used for maintenance. The actual discussion by people at the grown up table is about expanding the protocol beyond maintenance into constant use. Among other issues you don't have the background to grasp at this time. Yes, we should way costs and benefits, but since a large portion of these costs are already sunk, and we are talking about a device that is already used, and spreading that costs for 10+ years, it's a few pennies per ticket, in the worst cost case.
If it cost 1 cent, would it be a waste of money? No? well then we agree and we are only discussing what cost is a waste of money. and less 1 cent per passenger per segment is about what the cost of this device will be when spread over it's life time; which is how business handle costs.
This device exists, and most, if not all, new commercial aircraft can hove one put in as part of regular aircraft, assuming they don't already have an ACARS system installed.
I assume that if you are bleeding heavily after an accident, but people don't want to help you becasue it might ruin there 20 dollar shirt, you would be fine dying.
Sine there are device that d this, and many, if not all, new large aircraft use them for maintenance, I don't think it's a large an issue as you seem to think.
true, but when you try to sell then, the international body in charge of there official names have every right to point out to the people that you sell them to they aren't recognized by anyone; which is all that's going on.
You are falling into the 'I know it so everyone knows it' fallacy.
A wide range of age groups come here. from 12 and up, so keep that in mind.
" Yep the bandwidth and storage even on something like Amazon Glacier would be prohibitive to all but the most financially independent geeks." 120 a year is prohibitively expensive? Not for AG, natch, but there are solutions for that, and bandwidth is time. You can do it incrementally. Once done the future dif would be a lot easier.
EVERY article is a chance for targeted ads, it's how they keep running, so get over it already.
NO IT DOES NOT. Does no one here have a grasp of basic business accounting, and large numbers?
It cost 500K to fill at 747 with fuel. This devices would be a 1 time 100k cost spread out of 30 years, and be paid for by millins and million of tickets.
The cost of recovery is more then the cost of one of these. Here is a novel idea, what is it was live and we didn't need to recover, faulty, black boxes anymore?
NO, black box recovery is a huge pain in the ass and it's dangerous.
However many planes have a system ALREADY INSTALLED, it's just used for maintenance.
And 100K really isn't much for an item that will be paid off over 30 years and 10's of thousands of passengers.
How many gallons of fuels does a 747 hold? How much do you think it costs to fill up a 747? . . . . . . . . just about 50,000 gallon, at about 6 bucks a gallon. so 300K to fill it. I used 747 to illistrate how little you know about airline numbers. Also, I happen to know a lot them.
It's a little more complex than that. The Auto sales industry has a long long history of abuses, so some regulation came about because of those abuses.
Although, if Tesla will come to your door and pick it up, then this isn't an issue.
"How about the enlightenment principle that government can't simply make up whatever laws it wants" NO one says that? I mean, the Constitution expressly allows it.
" There is no such thing as liberty if a local dictator can tell you what lightbulb to make or how to sell cars." That's not true at all.
"Why not force the regular car dealers to also bundle horse buggy whips with all car purchases to protect the horse-buggy-whip establishment." hahaha, that would be funny..but they would do it is it means maintaining there control. They would be cheap, and you would only need to keep a couple in inventory.
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Correct, but I always try to find a way to meet a manger and take them to lunch.
Funny how when a manager says hire this guy all the HR crap means nothing.
Except for government and academia, mostly.
yes yes, people who don't do what you approve of don't count of doing shit. well done.
Frankly If I had to do it over, I would g into these quick turn around starts pushing fads.
It's the most likely way to get rich and retire early.
Then you have more time t do whatever the hell it is you want.
Because a coder can develop way to crunch numbers faster, slice data to find trends, and so on.
My point? it's a poor comparison, both groups can add value if applied right.
Start ups means a chance and some good money. Established companies, not so much.
Now, if comnpaie would reward internal group that create new thing well, it would shift.
For example:
I was on a team of 20 developers and 10 Business experts and testers. IN a year we created an application that saved the company 100 million dollars a year.
Are reward? a football.
Ironically, we used baseball as the theme.
Now, if we would have gotten a million dollars each, we would have stayed around and created other internal application that could saved them a lot of money.
So tired of your, and peoples like you, ignorance. You talk like you know something, but you are pretty clueless.
start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
And try to understand that these systems are already used for maintenance. The actual discussion by people at the grown up table is about expanding the protocol beyond maintenance into constant use.
Among other issues you don't have the background to grasp at this time.
Yes, we should way costs and benefits, but since a large portion of these costs are already sunk, and we are talking about a device that is already used, and spreading that costs for 10+ years, it's a few pennies per ticket, in the worst cost case.
"and usually identify the pilot or ground crew doing something stupid rather than following their training,"
false.
" data really make that much of a difference?"
IF their are survivors, yes, yes it makes a difference. See "Alive!" for one example.
If it cost 1 cent, would it be a waste of money?
No? well then we agree and we are only discussing what cost is a waste of money. and less 1 cent per passenger per segment is about what the cost of this device will be when spread over it's life time; which is how business handle costs.
This device exists, and most, if not all, new commercial aircraft can hove one put in as part of regular aircraft, assuming they don't already have an ACARS system installed.
I assume that if you are bleeding heavily after an accident, but people don't want to help you becasue it might ruin there 20 dollar shirt, you would be fine dying.
sigh. Those costs ARE the costs at the airport.
I know they are piped. If not you would never get to the airport to do all the tankers haul fuel.
300-400 people, and a life of 30+ years.
Sine there are device that d this, and many, if not all, new large aircraft use them for maintenance, I don't think it's a large an issue as you seem to think.
Like anything official, it's official because it's recognized. In this case recognized by everyone in the scientific field, academia and governments.
Its like saying the Olympics aren't official becasue you can buy your own trophy.
This is a case of the IAU alerting potential victims that the name won't be recognized, and that UWingo should be telling people it will be.
As long as UWingo makes that clear, the IAU won't really care.
true, but when you try to sell then, the international body in charge of there official names have every right to point out to the people that you sell them to they aren't recognized by anyone; which is all that's going on.
You are falling into the 'I know it so everyone knows it' fallacy.
A wide range of age groups come here. from 12 and up, so keep that in mind.
" Yep the bandwidth and storage even on something like Amazon Glacier would be prohibitive to all but the most financially independent geeks."
120 a year is prohibitively expensive? Not for AG, natch, but there are solutions for that, and bandwidth is time. You can do it incrementally. Once done the future dif would be a lot easier.
EVERY article is a chance for targeted ads, it's how they keep running, so get over it already.
Why would you only back up the nut shots from his porn collection?
Uh, no. :)
His data is on tape and in the back of his station wagon that he needs to backup out of the driveway.
10 dollars a month for 20 TB+ isn't really that bad. Over all it's going to be cheaper then building a back up array, plus no maintenance.
Take the storage media he has, and then duplicate it.
Really, was that hard?
NO IT DOES NOT. Does no one here have a grasp of basic business accounting, and large numbers?
It cost 500K to fill at 747 with fuel.
This devices would be a 1 time 100k cost spread out of 30 years, and be paid for by millins and million of tickets.
The cost of recovery is more then the cost of one of these. Here is a novel idea, what is it was live and we didn't need to recover, faulty, black boxes anymore?
NO, black box recovery is a huge pain in the ass and it's dangerous.
However many planes have a system ALREADY INSTALLED, it's just used for maintenance.
And 100K really isn't much for an item that will be paid off over 30 years and 10's of thousands of passengers.
How many gallons of fuels does a 747 hold?
How much do you think it costs to fill up a 747?
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just about 50,000 gallon, at about 6 bucks a gallon.
so 300K to fill it.
I used 747 to illistrate how little you know about airline numbers. Also, I happen to know a lot them.
100K? no, it's not a lot of money when looking at the cost of an airplane.
Ticket increase might have been pennies.
It's a little more complex than that.
The Auto sales industry has a long long history of abuses, so some regulation came about because of those abuses.
Although, if Tesla will come to your door and pick it up, then this isn't an issue.
"How about the enlightenment principle that government can't simply make up whatever laws it wants"
NO one says that? I mean, the Constitution expressly allows it.
" There is no such thing as liberty if a local dictator can tell you what lightbulb to make or how to sell cars."
That's not true at all.
"Why not force the regular car dealers to also bundle horse buggy whips with all car purchases to protect the horse-buggy-whip establishment."
hahaha, that would be funny..but they would do it is it means maintaining there control. They would be cheap, and you would only need to keep a couple in inventory.
Dictator, you keep using that word..
Is that what happens? Or do you order one online that is made in CA?
And you are an example of how load mouths have no clue what they are talking about.