". A diet of Coke, Twinkies, and bacon is not a balanced diet*, so there's really no need to go spouting off about it." lets take a close look, shall we?
"A diet of Coke" 95% water, the rest is pissed away. the minimal water loss from caffiene is more then made up from the rest of thewater. So, it's fine.
"Twinkies" true, even in moderation.
"bacon" bacon is fine. Like everything else it needs moderation. A slice of bacon is perfectly healthy.
"... those would form the core of a balanced diet." and then no one would want them. Humans being what they are:)
New coke was introduced AFTER coke was using Corn Sugar.
"Remember this, when smoking was getting banned in most of North America, the cigarette companies diversified and got into, guess what? Food." that's a false dichotomy.
People need food to live, it's a good long term investment.
HFCS is no different then PCS.
See, I can use scary letter for Cane sugar. OMG SUGAR IS A CHEMICAL!!! OH NOES.
There is no difference, and idiots like you and you ignorance distract from the real issue: People should really stop eating that many empty calories.
Please stop comparing the media report of these things as the science. The media will find 1 study that they think sells and then hype it up as scientist say blarg.
If you eat 1,000 calories in a candy bar, you will get fatter. If you eat 1,000 calories in white rice, you will get fatter. If you eat 1,000 calories of salmon, prime rib, chicken, etc you will not gain weight. Your body has nothing to store in your fat cells.
False, and ridiculous.
You need to specify total calories. If those are all your daily calories, you will lose weight even if you just sat around.
You post, and others like it, are why there is some much confusion. You using stupid simple and comparison that aren't valid in any meaningful way.
My grandfather used to say that, until he was dying. Suddenly it was like. hmm, maybe moderating my excess and living another 20 would have been better.
"The ones that every doctor will tell you about. The ones that this very story is about." Only if you over eat.
"Highly doubtful.": neither you should should be talking about your person health. It's not good data, and it's irrelevant and you don't know what each other health is like.
"It doesn't have to be, but often it is and it will never be as healthy as a vegetarian diet." Vegetarian can becomes over weight, and they can have there own set of health problems. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu...
In short: A properly planned vegetarian is fine. But so is a properly balance omnivore diet.
"Despite what someone might have told you, not everyone finds animal flesh appealing." fair enough, but we aren't discussing personal taste. And yes the person who posted that shouldn't have, it's a weak attempt at an ad hom. Pointless to the topic.
"Pretentious? When? Where?" here: "As a meat eater, you miss out on most veggie dishes because you aren't looking for them. " You act like you know something you don't actually no anything about, that person person dietary habits. Just so you know, I eat a lot of vegetarian dishes and meat dishes. You are trying to create some sort of false dichotomy between you and meat eaters, stop it. What he said is true: You have restricted yourself to a subset of choice; therefore less varied.
IN NO WAY should this betaken as my implying you shouldn't be vegetarian, or you are wrong for being one.
"You're the one posturing and resorting to ad hominem." He isn't posturing. He is using ad hominem, and he is wrong for doing so, just like you. See you do have something in common.
1200 calories? nope. on average it's going to be 1600 Women, 1900 Men. That's what is burned at rest. approx. Obviously a Mtn. Climber would need more.
"Who the fuck wants to live like that?" You are drawing a false dichotomy between eating reasonable and just shoving crap down you're throat.
You can eat a tasty and balanced and varied diet on 1900 calories a day.
So, would you rather have a tasty diet and live till 88, or eat the same tasty diet, just more of it, and die at 68? People in America get portions far larger then they need. People get used to over eating, so when they get a properly portioned meal they feel hungry, even though rationally they have enough. That feeling goes away with time.
" I write what I write next as someone who loathes government intervention." I hate to tell you this, but no you don't. You just disagree with some people on where and when to apply it.
When I was a kid, they lined us all up in the gym, and gave us vaccines. Polio and some others. Saved a lot of lives. We should bring that back.
NO. People with children seem to opt for doing nothing if there is no in their face danger. It stem form the fact that our society treat parents as if they can make no mistakes and are all knowing.
I hear a variant of this all the time: "I'm a mom, so I know best."
You should learn how to read and understand reports and studies.
Ignorant people like you who refuse to learn how to understand data, and can't seem to understand risk analysis, are what scares people way and leads to more deaths. \\
You have no idea how the flu vaccine works, nor do you understand how the immune system works.
"I refuse to get a flu shot " That makes you a danger to others AND a vector for mutation.
"- I'd rather my immune system had a natural chance" That statement is nonsense, wrapped in the naturlistic fallacy
" at defending me against it, " Please learn how the fuck the immune system works
" and it's not likely to kill me." depends on strain, and you may kill others.
" doctors and nurses try their hardest to convince us that these flu shots are necessary to remain healthy." Yes, you lame ass know best and curse those actual experts fior trying to keep you and the people around you as healthy as possible.
"and those that just prevent a standard illness that almost everyone gets and naturally overcomes." Standard illness? WTF does that mean? over 200,000 people are put in the hospital every year and 3000 to 49000 DIE. A lot of those people get the flu becasue of people like you. Yes, YOU not getting vaccinated hurts others, you selfish jackass.
Well, he is a guy who took tax payer money for school, then resigned his commission and fled the country just as we were going to war. He hasn't even been in the country for 20 years, and he lives where men get time off to spend with their newborn children.
So, in short, a typical neo-conservative loud mouth.
Bad studies should be ignored. Point me to one that doesn't have to carve up the data is nonsense ways to show that there is no gap.
"Taking months or years off for child raising, or working only part time, or refusing to travel - none of these things should affect your career or your pay. It ought to be possible to drop out of the workforce at 25, raise your kids full-time for 20 years, and then rejoin the workforce as a senior manager." The only people who claim that are dumb ass twads who seem to think there is no gap while ignoring the gap of women ho DON'T do that.
I know, you have to take the opposite of whatever is popular becasue that's easier then learning to apply critical thinking and logic to anything outside your personal expertise.
People have been making those claims since the 60's and they are as stupid as ever.
I see you were in the Air Force. I lie how you sucked down all that tax payer money to get trained and then fled to another country. Jack Ass.
"But you won't be put on Project X that delivers next quarter either" SO? What is so special about project X? There will be a project Y, then a project Z,then a project AA and so on.
" laid back approach to work" oh, is that what misogynist are calling it now?
As a person anecdote: Every female programmer I know that leave for a family issue work at home at night. SO lets not forget about that. Good luck fitting that into you dumb ass narrative.
" 4 of which are women right on up to the highest level. " So? WTF does that have to do with anything?
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". A diet of Coke, Twinkies, and bacon is not a balanced diet*, so there's really no need to go spouting off about it."
lets take a close look, shall we?
"A diet of Coke"
95% water, the rest is pissed away. the minimal water loss from caffiene is more then made up from the rest of thewater.
So, it's fine.
"Twinkies"
true, even in moderation.
"bacon"
bacon is fine. Like everything else it needs moderation. A slice of bacon is perfectly healthy.
"... those would form the core of a balanced diet."
and then no one would want them. Humans being what they are:)
You're kind of an idiot, aren't you?
New coke was introduced AFTER coke was using Corn Sugar.
"Remember this, when smoking was getting banned in most of North America, the cigarette companies diversified and got into, guess what? Food."
that's a false dichotomy.
People need food to live, it's a good long term investment.
HFCS is no different then PCS.
See, I can use scary letter for Cane sugar. OMG SUGAR IS A CHEMICAL!!! OH NOES.
There is no difference, and idiots like you and you ignorance distract from the real issue: People should really stop eating that many empty calories.
Please stop comparing the media report of these things as the science. The media will find 1 study that they think sells and then hype it up as scientist say blarg.
Yes, but they also have fiber which moderate any spike.
"Anything you can order "caramelized" (like, say, onions) is bad."
no it isn't. Please stop with the nonsense.
If you eat 1,000 calories in a candy bar, you will get fatter.
If you eat 1,000 calories in white rice, you will get fatter.
If you eat 1,000 calories of salmon, prime rib, chicken, etc you will not gain weight. Your body has nothing to store in your fat cells.
False, and ridiculous.
You need to specify total calories. If those are all your daily calories, you will lose weight even if you just sat around.
You post, and others like it, are why there is some much confusion. You using stupid simple and comparison that aren't valid in any meaningful way.
it's till 150 fewer calories. along with less salts. So it's not silly.
Lots of small cuts can add up. in your example, it's 10% less.
" listen to your body"
hmm. carefull. People listen to their bodies to tell them when they are full, and that leads to larger and larger meals.
Use science.
My grandfather used to say that, until he was dying. Suddenly it was like. hmm, maybe moderating my excess and living another 20 would have been better.
Moderate Drink and lots of screwing is healthy.
topographically, a pear is an incredible shape.
"The ones that every doctor will tell you about. The ones that this very story is about."
Only if you over eat.
"Highly doubtful.":
neither you should should be talking about your person health. It's not good data, and it's irrelevant and you don't know what each other health is like.
"It doesn't have to be, but often it is and it will never be as healthy as a vegetarian diet."
Vegetarian can becomes over weight, and they can have there own set of health problems.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pu...
In short: A properly planned vegetarian is fine. But so is a properly balance omnivore diet.
"Despite what someone might have told you, not everyone finds animal flesh appealing."
fair enough, but we aren't discussing personal taste. And yes the person who posted that shouldn't have, it's a weak attempt at an ad hom. Pointless to the topic.
"Pretentious? When? Where?"
here:
"As a meat eater, you miss out on most veggie dishes because you aren't looking for them. "
You act like you know something you don't actually no anything about, that person person dietary habits.
Just so you know, I eat a lot of vegetarian dishes and meat dishes. You are trying to create some sort of false dichotomy between you and meat eaters, stop it. What he said is true: You have restricted yourself to a subset of choice; therefore less varied.
IN NO WAY should this betaken as my implying you shouldn't be vegetarian, or you are wrong for being one.
"You're the one posturing and resorting to ad hominem."
He isn't posturing. He is using ad hominem, and he is wrong for doing so, just like you. See you do have something in common.
1200 calories? nope. on average it's going to be 1600 Women, 1900 Men.
That's what is burned at rest. approx.
Obviously a Mtn. Climber would need more.
"Who the fuck wants to live like that?"
You are drawing a false dichotomy between eating reasonable and just shoving crap down you're throat.
You can eat a tasty and balanced and varied diet on 1900 calories a day.
So, would you rather have a tasty diet and live till 88, or eat the same tasty diet, just more of it, and die at 68?
People in America get portions far larger then they need. People get used to over eating, so when they get a properly portioned meal they feel hungry, even though rationally they have enough.
That feeling goes away with time.
Yes, it sure is easy to repeat the same old tire and beat to death joke instead of come up with your own answer.
42 is the most overused number in the history of man...
You heard me.
haha, I kid.
Don't you mean GNU/ESR?
haha, I kid again.
Tell you boss to hire a quantum encryption consultant.
Don't mention the consultant happens to be your friend. Charge 225 an hour, split the difference.
By yourself a yacht.
" From nutritional advice"
dactiors have been giveg the follwong advice for decades: Exercise and eat better.
"the AGW cult,"
Ah. You just assume scientist are wrong when the data goes against your narrative and then project that to others.
"But science is now so intertwined in politics "
it isn't, but again, they are telling you things you don't like, so ad hom away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
" I write what I write next as someone who loathes government intervention."
I hate to tell you this, but no you don't.
You just disagree with some people on where and when to apply it.
When I was a kid, they lined us all up in the gym, and gave us vaccines. Polio and some others.
Saved a lot of lives.
We should bring that back.
We have a vaccination against stupid, it's called "a liberal education"
The first thing you should do is learn to read and evaluate papers and studies.
Correlation does not imply causation.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicin...
NO. People with children seem to opt for doing nothing if there is no in their face danger.
It stem form the fact that our society treat parents as if they can make no mistakes and are all knowing.
I hear a variant of this all the time:
"I'm a mom, so I know best."
You should learn how to read and understand reports and studies.
Ignorant people like you who refuse to learn how to understand data, and can't seem to understand risk analysis, are what scares people way and leads to more deaths.
\\
You have no idea how the flu vaccine works, nor do you understand how the immune system works.
"I refuse to get a flu shot "
That makes you a danger to others AND a vector for mutation.
"- I'd rather my immune system had a natural chance"
That statement is nonsense, wrapped in the naturlistic fallacy
" at defending me against it, "
Please learn how the fuck the immune system works
" and it's not likely to kill me."
depends on strain, and you may kill others.
" doctors and nurses try their hardest to convince us that these flu shots are necessary to remain healthy."
Yes, you lame ass know best and curse those actual experts fior trying to keep you and the people around you as healthy as possible.
"and those that just prevent a standard illness that almost everyone gets and naturally overcomes."
Standard illness? WTF does that mean?
over 200,000 people are put in the hospital every year and 3000 to 49000 DIE.
A lot of those people get the flu becasue of people like you.
Yes, YOU not getting vaccinated hurts others, you selfish jackass.
just lock up anti-vaccine people for practicing medicine without a license.
Well, he is a guy who took tax payer money for school, then resigned his commission and fled the country just as we were going to war.
He hasn't even been in the country for 20 years, and he lives where men get time off to spend with their newborn children.
So, in short, a typical neo-conservative loud mouth.
Bad studies should be ignored.
Point me to one that doesn't have to carve up the data is nonsense ways to show that there is no gap.
"Taking months or years off for child raising, or working only part time, or refusing to travel - none of these things should affect your career or your pay. It ought to be possible to drop out of the workforce at 25, raise your kids full-time for 20 years, and then rejoin the workforce as a senior manager."
The only people who claim that are dumb ass twads who seem to think there is no gap while ignoring the gap of women ho DON'T do that.
I know, you have to take the opposite of whatever is popular becasue that's easier then learning to apply critical thinking and logic to anything outside your personal expertise.
People have been making those claims since the 60's and they are as stupid as ever.
I see you were in the Air Force. I lie how you sucked down all that tax payer money to get trained and then fled to another country.
Jack Ass.
"But you won't be put on Project X that delivers next quarter either"
SO? What is so special about project X? There will be a project Y, then a project Z,then a project AA and so on.
" laid back approach to work"
oh, is that what misogynist are calling it now?
As a person anecdote: Every female programmer I know that leave for a family issue work at home at night. SO lets not forget about that.
Good luck fitting that into you dumb ass narrative.
" 4 of which are women right on up to the highest level. "
So? WTF does that have to do with anything?