Anyone who says people in schools should be armed is a clueless fuck grasping at straws to try and maintain their delusions. All it will do is get more kids killed. I suspect these people think the person will be alone in a hall, no other kids around, maybe a tumble weed blowing through, and thy will quick draw and kill the assailant.
When in fact, there are kids running, laying down, screaming, in front of the person shooting behind the person shooting. And the person returning fire is statistically likely to miss the intended target. Even well trained people miss most of the time in actual situations.
one quarter of one sentences taken out of context guarantees it. Just to be clear.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It was their becasue we couldn't afford a standing army at the time. It's pretty clear. Now that we have a standing army, it's not needed.
And the are called 'Amendments' becasue they can be amended. So that argument is irrelevant. If society wanted to remove firearms in total, we could change the constitution; which was designed to be changed.
every country with strict gun control has less murder by firearms. In fact, they generally have less murder. States and cities in the use who implement strict gun controls see a decline in gun related murders and murders overall.
And at 10 rounds, he eliminated nothing. I would go with 3 rounds. Actually, I would say no firearm can contain more then 3 rounds, and the have to be manually cocked into the chamber. This means hunters can hunt, and you can have home defense if you choose to. And the right to have a firearm doesn't mean the right to make all types available to the public.
A) It takes about 3 seconds for someone with some knowledge. B) Any pause give an opportunity for the person to begin to feel shame for their action. and thus stop.(Shame is the most likely reason why these people kill themselves afterwords.) C) It' snot accepting the challenge to invoke a case where today's technology it taken back in time. A fucking tank would have been nice for the civilians as well, and air support, and SATRCN. How would it have decimated(1 in 10) the British army if the British Army had then as well? D) A lot of people would be well with 25 feet during a shooting. I would argue a 3 round magazine should be the limit.
Alarmist Bullshit. Disarming America for what? You think your paltry weapon could stop a military tyranny? More importantly, do yo think people in today's American military are going to enforce a hostile coup?
I would build a cell connection into them so when they are fired the police are automatically notified of your location. Now that I think about it, it probably already exists.
Oh, and the same rule applies to guns..which is likely to miss out of 10 times.
It does. However, it's from people who are into a particular look or style. So for a specialty case, yes its worth it. Will you like it? too subjective.
" blocking electromagnetic interference" for the vast amount if places and homes, that's not a key requirement anymore. The components have gotten really, really good.
If I was running a arc welder near buy, or industrial equipment, sure. But the home? not really needed.
Before you replay, I want you to think of all the computers around your house they come wrapped in plastic.
Don't confuse the engine with the aircraft. Generally the manufacture recommends an engines, but the customer can pout whatever engine they want' into it.
"How can you compare the USA with a population of 350M to Switzerland of 8M, " seriously? You really don't know how that's done? Or are you just making a knee jerk reaction to something you don't like?
" Also its very amusing the number one reason they cite is gun violence" It's A reason, listed among others.
". Perhaps they should ban clubs and hammers, since more people die every year due them as one report recently found." no it didn't. You really need to stop watching Fox News.
How to get a firearm is switerland: Go into the army, be well trained and test, keep your firearm secured. Ammunition is issued and accounted for. You need to get a license every 3 years. If you go into security you may also be issued a license under strict guiding. In America, 60% of guns bought are from gun shows by people who don't need any screening at all.
SO it's not the same at all. the NRA is using emotion argument and lies to stop any gun control at all.
The statement you quote is accurate.
""We have a culture in our country that, among many Americans, cherishes personal autonomy and wants to limit intrusion of government and other entities on our personal lives" true
"and also wants to encourage free enterprise and the success of business and industry. " also true.
"Some of those forces may act against the ability to achieve optimal health outcomes,"" also true.
It's not an left win agenda to point out facts. How ever it has become a very right wing agenda to claim that facts that our contrary to the right wing opinion or left agenda items.
"Facts have a liberal bias' - Stephen Colbert.
Are we suppose to ignore that those factor come into play when talking about health care?
" that hand picked metrics " I notice you didn't actually back this up with any examples? what is wrong the the metrics they picked? what else would have been appropriate? THOSE thing are what you need to bring up if you want to have a discussion instead of just make excuses to whine becasue something doesn't fit your world view.
Many people in government don't want to do that, many do. For the record, I have had enough of these killings. I would ban all firearm that didn't require manually inserting or cocking a weapons to put a round in the chamber, and any weapon that holds more then 3 rounds.
The exception would be honorably discharged veterans who regularly trained with a weapon as part of there regular job while in the military.
Everyplace with thigh gun controls has less murders.
And you premise that everything is focused on one cause is stupid and just shows that becasue you aren't capable of thinking about more then one thing at a time you assume everyone and every organization can't do more then one thing at a time also.
HINT: just because it's the popular thing the media is reporting that doesn't mean it's the only thing going on.
the 30,000 killed by firearm were mostly a direct result of being shot by someone with hostile intent, the poisoning is vastly accidental, and why you have drug reaction mixed in their is beyond me.
That's complete bullshit. So is the premise that we make the most pornography, per capita.
"Mother Teresa" Mother Teresa was a liar, and a bully. She routinely claims she was getting money for the poor when it was for convents, and the Vatican. She was isolated from the public except when under tight media controls. SO using her as a reference for anything is crap. You might as well go to tobacco advertisers for an opinion on the dangers of tobacco use.
A lot of people who are not lonely enjoy pornography.
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Anyone who says people in schools should be armed is a clueless fuck grasping at straws to try and maintain their delusions.
All it will do is get more kids killed. I suspect these people think the person will be alone in a hall, no other kids around, maybe a tumble weed blowing through, and thy will quick draw and kill the assailant.
When in fact, there are kids running, laying down, screaming, in front of the person shooting behind the person shooting. And the person returning fire is statistically likely to miss the intended target. Even well trained people miss most of the time in actual situations.
one quarter of one sentences taken out of context guarantees it. Just to be clear.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
It was their becasue we couldn't afford a standing army at the time. It's pretty clear. Now that we have a standing army, it's not needed.
And the are called 'Amendments' becasue they can be amended. So that argument is irrelevant. If society wanted to remove firearms in total, we could change the constitution; which was designed to be changed.
every country with strict gun control has less murder by firearms. In fact, they generally have less murder.
States and cities in the use who implement strict gun controls see a decline in gun related murders and murders overall.
And at 10 rounds, he eliminated nothing. I would go with 3 rounds. Actually, I would say no firearm can contain more then 3 rounds, and the have to be manually cocked into the chamber.
This means hunters can hunt, and you can have home defense if you choose to.
And the right to have a firearm doesn't mean the right to make all types available to the public.
A) It takes about 3 seconds for someone with some knowledge.
B) Any pause give an opportunity for the person to begin to feel shame for their action. and thus stop.(Shame is the most likely reason why these people kill themselves afterwords.)
C) It' snot accepting the challenge to invoke a case where today's technology it taken back in time. A fucking tank would have been nice for the civilians as well, and air support, and SATRCN. How would it have decimated(1 in 10) the British army if the British Army had then as well?
D) A lot of people would be well with 25 feet during a shooting. I would argue a 3 round magazine should be the limit.
Alarmist Bullshit. Disarming America for what? You think your paltry weapon could stop a military tyranny?
More importantly, do yo think people in today's American military are going to enforce a hostile coup?
I would build a cell connection into them so when they are fired the police are automatically notified of your location.
Now that I think about it, it probably already exists.
Oh, and the same rule applies to guns..which is likely to miss out of 10 times.
It does. However, it's from people who are into a particular look or style. So for a specialty case, yes its worth it. Will you like it? too subjective.
No, it doesn't. I swear to god I'm going to start a skeptic podcast that just deals with computer bullshit people like you spout.
" blocking electromagnetic interference"
for the vast amount if places and homes, that's not a key requirement anymore. The components have gotten really, really good.
If I was running a arc welder near buy, or industrial equipment, sure. But the home? not really needed.
Before you replay, I want you to think of all the computers around your house they come wrapped in plastic.
Sure it is.
Reading upon it, it is really, really well designed. Good industrial designers are hard to find and not cheap.
I wouldn't pay 1200 dollars, but then I wouldn't spend 250K for a Ferrari. Doesn't mean it's not worth it.
Faraday cage? Please this isn't 1990 with a bleeding EF power supplies, and mobos.
"When composite burns it releases poisons. "
unlike everything else?
Don't confuse the engine with the aircraft. Generally the manufacture recommends an engines, but the customer can pout whatever engine they want' into it.
"Airplanes like this are built one part, one section, one plane, at a time."
no they aren't. Many parts are built at the same time and then assembled.
And the non union product is crap.
"How can you compare the USA with a population of 350M to Switzerland of 8M, "
seriously? You really don't know how that's done? Or are you just making a knee jerk reaction to something you don't like?
" Also its very amusing the number one reason they cite is gun violence"
It's A reason, listed among others.
". Perhaps they should ban clubs and hammers, since more people die every year due them as one report recently found."
no it didn't. You really need to stop watching Fox News.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/baseballbats.asp
and, of course the source:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
Facts bitch, suck it.
ALL Blunt objects(hammers, baseball bast, etc...) 2011 496
All Firearms: 8,583
And in every city with strict and enforce gun control, the murder rate trend down, without exception.
Yes,we know. How does that counter the fact that the US has cities with more people then you entire country?
2. Wrong.
How to get a firearm is switerland:
Go into the army, be well trained and test, keep your firearm secured. Ammunition is issued and accounted for. You need to get a license every 3 years.
If you go into security you may also be issued a license under strict guiding.
In America, 60% of guns bought are from gun shows by people who don't need any screening at all.
SO it's not the same at all. the NRA is using emotion argument and lies to stop any gun control at all.
The statement you quote is accurate.
""We have a culture in our country that, among many Americans, cherishes personal autonomy and wants to limit intrusion of government and other entities on our personal lives"
true
"and also wants to encourage free enterprise and the success of business and industry. "
also true.
"Some of those forces may act against the ability to achieve optimal health outcomes,""
also true.
It's not an left win agenda to point out facts. How ever it has become a very right wing agenda to claim that facts that our contrary to the right wing opinion or left agenda items.
"Facts have a liberal bias' - Stephen Colbert.
Are we suppose to ignore that those factor come into play when talking about health care?
" that hand picked metrics "
I notice you didn't actually back this up with any examples? what is wrong the the metrics they picked? what else would have been appropriate? THOSE thing are what you need to bring up if you want to have a discussion instead of just make excuses to whine becasue something doesn't fit your world view.
directly pay for health services.
I see. You can't actually argue the numbers, so you use an ad hom.
Grow the fuck up.
Many people in government don't want to do that, many do.
For the record, I have had enough of these killings. I would ban all firearm that didn't require manually inserting or cocking a weapons to put a round in the chamber, and any weapon that holds more then 3 rounds.
The exception would be honorably discharged veterans who regularly trained with a weapon as part of there regular job while in the military.
Everyplace with thigh gun controls has less murders.
And you premise that everything is focused on one cause is stupid and just shows that becasue you aren't capable of thinking about more then one thing at a time you assume everyone and every organization can't do more then one thing at a time also.
HINT: just because it's the popular thing the media is reporting that doesn't mean it's the only thing going on.
mmmm Stuffed Pizza.
the 30,000 killed by firearm were mostly a direct result of being shot by someone with hostile intent, the poisoning is vastly accidental, and why you have drug reaction mixed in their is beyond me.
It is recovering, stop watching the media alarmist 'analysts'.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/the-mostly-solved-deficit-problem/
That's complete bullshit.
So is the premise that we make the most pornography, per capita.
"Mother Teresa"
Mother Teresa was a liar, and a bully.
She routinely claims she was getting money for the poor when it was for convents, and the Vatican. She was isolated from the public except when under tight media controls.
SO using her as a reference for anything is crap. You might as well go to tobacco advertisers for an opinion on the dangers of tobacco use.
A lot of people who are not lonely enjoy pornography.
#3 maybe we should focus on a culture where people don't feel they should get married at a young age?