I once knew a guy who read that someone reported that happen to his uncles friends neighbors wife's sister. I have hear that story in CA for decades, no one can actually site a case.
IT is one of the lies told to the government by insurance companies who want tort reform. Also the lie about the oven falling on someone and they suing.
Steal them. And apparently many of the people on slashdot think that once they get them off you property, any attempt to prevent them from being sold is a huge crushing blow to humanity.
Where I live, all the pawnshops are tied to the police. SO if they get a report of an item, then can be notified, the police called. They give them the item, the persons thumb print, and copy of ID.
IF the pawn shop doesn't report it then they get in trouble for buying and/or selling stolen goods.
I think you don't actual have a clue and are making that up.
We are talking about huge rolls of unused wire, industrial valves that cost 30k+, statues. Sometimes 100's of yards of copper.
So when some cones tolling it with a giant spool of wire in there truck, that person gets photographed. If someone reports large bundles of wire stolen, then police can ask that person questions .
Forensics. You need to watch less CSI. The police report a large copper valve has been stole and provide description. The get a thumb print and picture. Possible an address(which may be a lie). Then they do investigation.
Oh please. You clearly have no clue about any aspect of this at all.
"So you would punish the innocent with more paperwork and regulations along with the guilty?" no. I would make it a regulation to maintain who sells you copper. Just like pawnshops have to do with their merchandise. It's not punishment any more then having to maintain fire safety codes is a punishment.
" That doesn't sound very appealing to me. " less appealing then the millions of dollars in stolen copper costs everybody every year? Business who have increased their cost becasue of stolen copper. Government who need to increase the budget becasue of stolen copper. Who do you think pays for that?
" it's not like thieves wouldn't lie anyways, which would give the recycles who take stolen goods plausible deniability." That is why you have a thumb print and picture. When someone who had stolen copper reports it, all the recycles get an alert. If you have the property, you contact the police. You give them the idea of the person who bought it.
It's not hard, or expensive.
Once people doing the stealing realize they will be held accountable, or can't find anyone to recycle it, copper theft will decrease.
Oh yeah, it would be so hard. I guess that's why every pawn shop manages to survive even though the keep sale records.
All you do is take a picture of the person bring into the copper. Or copy an ID. Cheap and quick to do. If this means the price I get for recycling goes don a dollar a ton for copper,, the so be it.
If you don't want to participate in society, then you aren't getting the benefits of society. Someone shows up with pounds of copper material, keeping track of where they get it is reasonable.
Or do you think tons of stolen copper has no cost on business and government?
Oh please. The people being accused say she as information on her facebook page pertinent to the case. And they give specific examples. So you FUD and stupid example doesn't apply.
" I don't use ANY social networking sites with the exception of Linkedin. Do you think they would believe me if I said I don't have one?" If they had people who where were your facebook friends, then no, they wouldn't believe you. People saw things on her facebook page that show she doesn't not find the word 'Cunt' offensive, and she planned this case as a money grab.
It relative to the case at hand. Not a overall policy.
And you wold be wrong to think so. I can name a dozen cases where your idea is not only wrong it's extremely dangerous, but lets stick to the case at hand.
It's a court, and it's evidence. This is no different then the court getting reasonable evidence that a killer posted details about the murder on facebook.
This data is relative to the case in where there is evidence that they are abusing the system and making false claims.
This isn't an infringement of a freedom. Its a court case. Just like anything else in a court case. Just like the court would ask for letters pertinent to the case, or what's in a lock box, or anything.
"shame on you, judge (and anyone else who think its their business what's inside someone else's private files)" are you really that stupid?
I used to think that, but over the decades I have seen so much harm just from having the idea around. SO many people have been taught not to think. So many people thing what is is the same as a scientific theory. And of course, they all have the entrenched belief to push there idiocy on to others, so by there very existence that try to force/indoctrinate people.
I don't know how to clean that infection fro humans, but her's hoping these twads will keep getting push back from the educational system and mange to slip some thinking skills into there closed flat brains.
Attendance is essential to teaching. And while on campus, yes she should have to wear the badge. HINT: public place you have no right to privacy regarding your location.
NPR is the only news source that's actually rational. I suggest you listen to how the conduct interview with politician, regardless os letter, as well as how well the investigate their stories.
I'm sorry facts and research make you angry.
Companies who let people go are bringing people back to those same position for less money. Shocking revelation you got there~
I love data. Lots of data. I enjoy reading federal reports. I love compiling, cutting and looking at patterns in data. It's what I do, and I do andf I do it very well.
My decision are based on data, facts, numbers, and history. The Forbes links? missing tons of relevant data. and it's all based around a false premise. Ever notice people say 'recovery isn't fast enough' but never compare it to anything else? You can't say fast enough without some measure to make the judgement. However, if you look at other countries, and US's history of recovery, the current recovery is pretty much the fastest ever. But you won't here that from anti-Obama site and pundits. They'll just say not 'fast enough' as if it has meaning.
The saddest thing to happen to this country is that now 'facts' are liberal.
Slashdot Mirror
There is no ivory tower; stop perpetuating the myth.
I wouldn't have said a word if this was on ESPN.
I would like to have a site that talks about actual impacts and useful tools
Of course, everyone love statistics until you show something they don't like.
have a story about statistical analysis being used on actually important things lets show it about this stupid game.
Cool story, bro.
Not likely, but you keep hanging onto the everyone sues and wins myth.
i=V/R
SO tell me again how voltage doesn't matter...
I once knew a guy who read that someone reported that happen to his uncles friends neighbors wife's sister.
I have hear that story in CA for decades, no one can actually site a case.
IT is one of the lies told to the government by insurance companies who want tort reform. Also the lie about the oven falling on someone and they suing.
just so you know, just becasue people commit one crime, doesn't mean they will commit any other crime.
He hasn't tried putting them in a locked warehouse, or a security guard.
Dogs would work for most cases.
Steal them.
And apparently many of the people on slashdot think that once they get them off you property, any attempt to prevent them from being sold is a huge crushing blow to humanity.
Where I live, all the pawnshops are tied to the police. SO if they get a report of an item, then can be notified, the police called. They give them the item, the persons thumb print, and copy of ID.
IF the pawn shop doesn't report it then they get in trouble for buying and/or selling stolen goods.
I think you don't actual have a clue and are making that up.
We are talking about huge rolls of unused wire, industrial valves that cost 30k+, statues. Sometimes 100's of yards of copper.
So when some cones tolling it with a giant spool of wire in there truck, that person gets photographed. If someone reports large bundles of wire stolen, then police can ask that person questions .
Forensics. You need to watch less CSI.
The police report a large copper valve has been stole and provide description. The get a thumb print and picture. Possible an address(which may be a lie).
Then they do investigation.
Oh please. You clearly have no clue about any aspect of this at all.
"So you would punish the innocent with more paperwork and regulations along with the guilty?"
no. I would make it a regulation to maintain who sells you copper. Just like pawnshops have to do with their merchandise.
It's not punishment any more then having to maintain fire safety codes is a punishment.
" That doesn't sound very appealing to me. "
less appealing then the millions of dollars in stolen copper costs everybody every year? Business who have increased their cost becasue of stolen copper. Government who need to increase the budget becasue of stolen copper. Who do you think pays for that?
" it's not like thieves wouldn't lie anyways, which would give the recycles who take stolen goods plausible deniability."
That is why you have a thumb print and picture. When someone who had stolen copper reports it, all the recycles get an alert. If you have the property, you contact the police.
You give them the idea of the person who bought it.
It's not hard, or expensive.
Once people doing the stealing realize they will be held accountable, or can't find anyone to recycle it, copper theft will decrease.
I like how he overlooks the cost to the companies, people, and governments having copper stolen.
Oh yeah, it would be so hard. I guess that's why every pawn shop manages to survive even though the keep sale records.
All you do is take a picture of the person bring into the copper. Or copy an ID.
Cheap and quick to do. If this means the price I get for recycling goes don a dollar a ton for copper,, the so be it.
If you don't want to participate in society, then you aren't getting the benefits of society.
Someone shows up with pounds of copper material, keeping track of where they get it is reasonable.
Or do you think tons of stolen copper has no cost on business and government?
Oh please.
The people being accused say she as information on her facebook page pertinent to the case. And they give specific examples.
So you FUD and stupid example doesn't apply.
" I don't use ANY social networking sites with the exception of Linkedin. Do you think they would believe me if I said I don't have one?"
If they had people who where were your facebook friends, then no, they wouldn't believe you.
People saw things on her facebook page that show she doesn't not find the word 'Cunt' offensive, and she planned this case as a money grab.
It relative to the case at hand. Not a overall policy.
And you wold be wrong to think so.
I can name a dozen cases where your idea is not only wrong it's extremely dangerous, but lets stick to the case at hand.
It's a court, and it's evidence. This is no different then the court getting reasonable evidence that a killer posted details about the murder on facebook.
This data is relative to the case in where there is evidence that they are abusing the system and making false claims.
This isn't an infringement of a freedom. Its a court case. Just like anything else in a court case. Just like the court would ask for letters pertinent to the case, or what's in a lock box, or anything.
"shame on you, judge (and anyone else who think its their business what's inside someone else's private files)"
are you really that stupid?
one was about opening up your private information to a school, the other is evidence in a court of law. They aren't the same thing.
Learn the difference between organization and conformance.
I used to think that, but over the decades I have seen so much harm just from having the idea around. SO many people have been taught not to think. So many people thing what is is the same as a scientific theory. And of course, they all have the entrenched belief to push there idiocy on to others, so by there very existence that try to force/indoctrinate people.
I don't know how to clean that infection fro humans, but her's hoping these twads will keep getting push back from the educational system and mange to slip some thinking skills into there closed flat brains.
Attendance is essential to teaching.
And while on campus, yes she should have to wear the badge. HINT: public place you have no right to privacy regarding your location.
" Social problems CANNOT be solved with technology solutions"
ignore the mass amount of social problem that have been solved by technology.
Mark of the beast.
Done, and done.
What? sure I have Credit cards, Drivers license, and my whereabouts are posted in facebook, you point~
NPR is the only news source that's actually rational. I suggest you listen to how the conduct interview with politician, regardless os letter, as well as how well the investigate their stories.
I'm sorry facts and research make you angry.
Companies who let people go are bringing people back to those same position for less money.
Shocking revelation you got there~
I love data. Lots of data. I enjoy reading federal reports. I love compiling, cutting and looking at patterns in data. It's what I do, and I do andf I do it very well.
My decision are based on data, facts, numbers, and history.
The Forbes links? missing tons of relevant data.
and it's all based around a false premise.
Ever notice people say 'recovery isn't fast enough' but never compare it to anything else? You can't say fast enough without some measure to make the judgement.
However, if you look at other countries, and US's history of recovery, the current recovery is pretty much the fastest ever.
But you won't here that from anti-Obama site and pundits. They'll just say not 'fast enough' as if it has meaning.
The saddest thing to happen to this country is that now 'facts' are liberal.
DEA and FDA do what they are mandated to do. It's congress.
PEopel say thay, but they can never pull out a series of conclusive studies.