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Why thankyou! Hubris and laziness are two spectacular hacker virtues! sed -e 's/Macintosh/Windows/g' -e 's/niche/monopoly/g' -e 's/Apple/Microsoft/g' crappost.txt > fullyaccreditedasshole_post.txt
So "almost all" Macs can boot from a CD?
Yeah... all of them built since the invention of the CD-ROM drive -- and some from before that time. You know... back when Winders was little more than a Graphical Shell for DOS.
man, I would love to use Windows equipment... but unfortunately it usually is incompatable with anything else. That and it is very likely that the trend at Microsoft will continue to be 'buy our stuff and be happy with what you get'. Ummm, I want to change and upgrade, and I don't see Windows's as providing me with that opportunity. Crawl out of your monopoly Microsoft and join the rest of the world please, I would then be able to use your stuff and be rather happy.
A real operating system with an easy to use GUI and a powerful CLI that is useful for everyone from grandmother to Linux junky?
You mean OSX: "Mac OS X is a super-modern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the simplicity and elegance of the Macintosh."
Solid hardware that requires very little maintenance (unlike e.g. my last Dell box).
You mean like how 80% of all Macintoshes ever built (since 1984) are still in use today?
Support in the OS for ISO892.11b, DVD-R, etc.?
I guess you don't know anything about how Apple is the leader in DVD-authoring & DV-editing then? Bluetooth is just coming out now -- Airport has been out for years.
Naw, Apple doesn't provide anything other than bright colors . ..
You have just been "schooled" by someone using a PowerMac from 1995 -- before the bright colors were introduced...
A real operating system with an easy to use GUI and a powerful CLI that is useful for everyone from grandmother to Linux junky?"
This is OSX to a tee: "Mac OS X is a super-modern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the simplicity and elegance of the Macintosh."
Solid hardware that requires very little maintenance (unlike e.g. my last Dell box).
Something like 80% of all Macs ever made are still in use... and the Mac has been around since 1984! The computer I'm using to post this reply was made in 1995 and has never needed to go "in the shop."
Support in the OS for ISO892.11b, DVD-R, etc.?
You obviously haven't looked at the new PowerMacs with Airport & iDVD technology.
"Naw, Apple doesn't provide anything other than bright colors . .."
Has it ever crossed your mind to get informed before you post?
The design is an engineering challenge, a management challenge, and a scientific challenge. The engineering and design for a processor actually *lead* the technology needed to make the chip by a few years. So when a chip like the G4 or P4 is first started, engineers and managers and such have to *guess* what people are going to be wowed by in 3 or 4 years and what fab technology might be available to deliver it to them at that time. The science comes in when things "don't quite work out like we hoped...";c)
You might have to check me out on this, but I'm pretty sure the Tasmanian Tiger went extinct many thousands of years ago. What they are talking about is the Tasmanian Wolf, which only went extinct in the 20th Century.
Lexx -- sexy, edgey, cheap, and unpredictable. I think of this as a "new" sub-genre: pulp-science-fiction.
Farscape -- cool character development and great music & intro -- although now it has been "toned down" a bit. Love the Dargo/Crighton chemistry... the Scorpius soliloquies made me sore at first, but now I think they're kind of cool.
Voyager -- ugh! But I'll watch any episode with "7" in it.
B5 -- great space opera with great characters that ultimately went nowhere. 4-5 years was a long time to go to get to "You mean... we can go home?" Uhhhhg!
DS9 -- wonderful characters & great situations & very few "dud" episodes. Avery Brooks has that great delivery that hasn't been seen since (dare I say it?) William Shatner... I admit a lot of the Bajoran religious stuff was kind of hokey, but there was plenty to like about the acting and relationships in each episode.
NextGen -- So-so characters with nice, safe storylines. Not bad, but not great either. At least Picard & Data are pretty cool.
StarTrek -- "The Original." Looks pretty dated, but many storylines were ground-breaking television for their day. Entertaining chemistry between characters.
Honorable Mentions:
Star Gate SG1: Whoah boy! Such a great idea... so little intrigue. It's hard to understand how they could take this idea and turn it so cheap and "doopid." Okay for late-night viewing when most other stuff is "infomercials."
Andromeda: I was into this when it first started, but now I hardly watch because there doesn't seem to be much chemistry between the characters. The Purple girl is up there with "7" in my hottie list though.
Actually, this is the most "Trek Like" series of "modern" times. In all of the other series (save the original) all interpersonal relationships are about as white-washed and antiseptic as they come. It isn't until DS9 that the Spock & McCoy respect/antagonism thing showed up in the person of Quark & Odo. Even the vanilla doctor, Julian, turns out to be quite the interesting type torn with angst because of genetic engineering. And there was plenty more stuff besides Bajor, there was the worm-hole to the Delta-Quadrant. Truly kewl ideas.
My my my... so many misconceptions! So much ignorance! Where to begin? Perhaps the beginning...
> Microsoft paid the price to control the dice.
Wrong... Microsoft was handed the dice by IBM -- a matter of *pure luck*. From there Microsoft has taken its initial shaky DOS monopoly and parlayed it into an air-tight Windows monopoly, which in turn has given it a word processing/office/web browser/etc. monopolies... Right now they are trying to turn that into a messaging and even *web* monopoly...
> That's capitalism people -- and as a result we get better products, a better web, better standards of living
The web is better if only Unkie Microsoft can tell you what you can and can't see? I've seen people who have to use the Windows craptacular operating system, and let me tell you, that's about the lowest standard of living there is...
> and a better return on MSFT investment
Ahhhh... where it all comes together! So if there was a business that was taking America by storm that made ricketty, unsafe, bad-mileage cars and used monopolistic practices to keep you from buying a BMW or even a Toyota, you would get into that rattle-trap and change the oil every 10.23 miles just so you could see your stock go up? I guess you would practically shit in your pants with glee if this self-same company shut down the railroads and airline industry and then put toll-booths on the highways every 12.578 miles!;cD
> than those who obsess over unimportant things like having NCSA Mosaic, Netscape 2.0, and Chimera still work and access web pages. Who cares? Noone uses that crap anymore!
No one is obsessing over old browsers... just the fact that web-sites can be made to work with most *all* browsers if you take the time. The REAL problem people are having is the fact that *even MODERN* browsers are being shut out by M$'s monopoly power and we are not getting better products this way!
> This is just another instance of a bitter inventor soured by seeing others take his crude invention and make something successful and marketable and impressive. They did the REAL work, not him!
This is just wrong on so many different levels. The people who did the "REAL" work were EVERYONE who worked on the web -- not just MicroSoft and IE! Hell, Internet Explorer wasn't even created by Microsoft! They screwed Spyglass out of the original source code! How did they do this, you may ask... easy, they made a deal where Microsoft would distribute Spyglass as Internet Explorer and Spyglass would get a percentage of the sales... Guess what? M$ never sold IE! They gave it away for free and coasted on thier OS monopoly while Spyglass went out of business because that was their only source of revenue!
> MSIE is where it is today because it beat the stuffing out of Netscape and every other competing browser, hands down, in a free capitalist marketplace. Just accept it and move on.
Pure unadulterated ignorance. This guy must have learned everything he knows about computers from Microsoft's advertising. M$IE is where it is today because M$ illegally leveraged their OS monopoly to give themselves a browser monopoly. Ever wonder why in almost ten years of "Windows," M$ hasn't made it easier to install/uninstall programs on its OS? Because THEY want the control. The fact that you could not "uninstall" M$IE from Windows '98 and the fact that installing Nestcape on a Microsoft OS produced uneven results (due to hidden/obscure code/protocols) made IE the defacto standard for all new Windows PCs after 1998.
> MSIE is the gold standard now. Thanks to Microsoft's hard work, we now have a single standard, with a single reference implementation (which is also the worlds most popular).
If M$ really WAS so much better than its competitors, why would it need to always give away copies of its competing products along with its OS? Wouldn't M$ make *MORE* money if it just SOLD its browser/word processor/etc? That would mean more money for M$ and higher stock prices, right? That would be good for our Sainted-Company, right?
>...And because of Microsoft's HARD WORK making a better browser, they get to decide what HTML, DHTML, Javascript, VBSCript, and XML are...
Ahhhh... M$'s hard work again. It's almost as if the writer is having a hard time believing it himself and is trying hard to be convince through repitition. In other words: "We have the power, now even though you invented it and did most of the development work, we'll take it from here because we're smarter and better than you -- we have a monopoly and we know how to use it! Ohhh, and don't forget, if you try to innovate and make some money, don't bother, we'll just give away something just like it after a year or two anyway!"
Does the writer REALLY believe we would even HAVE "HTML, DHTML, Javascript, VBSCript, and XML" if it were all up to M$? Well -- maybe that Fisher-Price scripting language, VBSCRipt, but not PERL or Python or Java, etc... I mean, if M$ hasn't significantly carried the introduction/evolution of these standards to this point, what make him think they are going to come up with and maintain *BETTER* standards in the future? This is M$'s perfect customer, the kind that would move to French Geyana and participate in an M$-sponsored Kool-Aid party if need be.
> not a bunch of academic weenies at the W3C who've never worked in a high-pressure competitive corporate software development workplace.
Yeah, not the PEOPLE WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE for other people to work in a high-pressure competitive corporate software development workplace!
> The people who DO the hard work, and those who spend the bucks to develop a better WWW get to make those choices.
Yeah, it's so easy to come up with web-standards that the "hard working/high-pressure/competitive corporate developers" at Microsoft were ONLY 10-15 years behind the times until the past 3-5 years! "Web standards and consumer choice -- for sale to the highest bidder!" -- Microsoft
> This is how it SHOULD be.
Did you have to work to become this dumb, or does it come naturally?
My guess is that M$ must have come looking to invest or otherwise get a piece of the action. I think most small businesses would rather get while the gettin's good rather than hang around and be raped by a multi-billion dollar corporation.
There's no denying the Holocaust happened. I'm just saying don't disrespect the memories of those *many more* who died for the sake of communism by acting like this was the world's biggest extermination of people. It wasn't.
http://members.spree.com/ojoronen/murder.htm
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rummel/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM
"Another View of Stalin?" Pfft! As if.
"which enabled Hitler to murder the jews more efficiently than thought possible, resulting in the sole largest mass murder in history"
Not to nit-pick, but Hitler is like 2nd or 3rd behind Stalin in Russia and whoever the ruler of China was when they went red.
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If you spent more time typing "dialogic drivers linux" in a Google search and less time fuming, you would know by now that there *are* Dialogic drivers for Linux.
For "more information" on M$'s presspass update, you need M$ Word, WordPerfect (a dead product) or M$ MediaPlayer. I guess when Quicktime and RealAudio are finally laid to rest, M$ info will be distributed in those formats as well! Can't wait for more 'innovation' to kill off some more real innovators!;c)
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Congratulations! You have just won the cheapest post of the day award and are hereby declared a fully accredited asshole.
Why thankyou! Hubris and laziness are two spectacular hacker virtues! sed -e 's/Macintosh/Windows/g' -e 's/niche/monopoly/g' -e 's/Apple/Microsoft/g' crappost.txt > fullyaccreditedasshole_post.txt
So "almost all" Macs can boot from a CD? Yeah... all of them built since the invention of the CD-ROM drive -- and some from before that time. You know... back when Winders was little more than a Graphical Shell for DOS.
man, I would love to use Windows equipment... but unfortunately it usually is incompatable with anything else. That and it is very likely that the trend at Microsoft will continue to be 'buy our stuff and be happy with what you get'. Ummm, I want to change and upgrade, and I don't see Windows's as providing me with that opportunity. Crawl out of your monopoly Microsoft and join the rest of the world please, I would then be able to use your stuff and be rather happy.
- A real operating system with an easy to use GUI and a powerful CLI that is useful for everyone from grandmother to Linux junky?
- Solid hardware that requires very little maintenance (unlike e.g. my last Dell box).
- Support in the OS for ISO892.11b, DVD-R, etc.?
Naw, Apple doesn't provide anything other than bright colors . .You mean OSX: "Mac OS X is a super-modern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the simplicity and elegance of the Macintosh."
You mean like how 80% of all Macintoshes ever built (since 1984) are still in use today?
I guess you don't know anything about how Apple is the leader in DVD-authoring & DV-editing then? Bluetooth is just coming out now -- Airport has been out for years.
You have just been "schooled" by someone using a PowerMac from 1995 -- before the bright colors were introduced...
- A real operating system with an easy to use GUI and a powerful CLI that is useful for everyone from grandmother to Linux junky?"
This is OSX to a tee: "Mac OS X is a super-modern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the simplicity and elegance of the Macintosh."- Solid hardware that requires very little maintenance (unlike e.g. my last Dell box).
Something like 80% of all Macs ever made are still in use... and the Mac has been around since 1984! The computer I'm using to post this reply was made in 1995 and has never needed to go "in the shop."- Support in the OS for ISO892.11b, DVD-R, etc.?
You obviously haven't looked at the new PowerMacs with Airport & iDVD technology."Naw, Apple doesn't provide anything other than bright colors . .
Has it ever crossed your mind to get informed before you post?
The design is an engineering challenge, a management challenge, and a scientific challenge. The engineering and design for a processor actually *lead* the technology needed to make the chip by a few years. So when a chip like the G4 or P4 is first started, engineers and managers and such have to *guess* what people are going to be wowed by in 3 or 4 years and what fab technology might be available to deliver it to them at that time. The science comes in when things "don't quite work out like we hoped..." ;c)
You might have to check me out on this, but I'm pretty sure the Tasmanian Tiger went extinct many thousands of years ago. What they are talking about is the Tasmanian Wolf, which only went extinct in the 20th Century.
Lexx -- sexy, edgey, cheap, and unpredictable. I think of this as a "new" sub-genre: pulp-science-fiction.
Farscape -- cool character development and great music & intro -- although now it has been "toned down" a bit. Love the Dargo/Crighton chemistry... the Scorpius soliloquies made me sore at first, but now I think they're kind of cool.
Voyager -- ugh! But I'll watch any episode with "7" in it.
B5 -- great space opera with great characters that ultimately went nowhere. 4-5 years was a long time to go to get to "You mean... we can go home?" Uhhhhg!
DS9 -- wonderful characters & great situations & very few "dud" episodes. Avery Brooks has that great delivery that hasn't been seen since (dare I say it?) William Shatner... I admit a lot of the Bajoran religious stuff was kind of hokey, but there was plenty to like about the acting and relationships in each episode.
NextGen -- So-so characters with nice, safe storylines. Not bad, but not great either. At least Picard & Data are pretty cool.
StarTrek -- "The Original." Looks pretty dated, but many storylines were ground-breaking television for their day. Entertaining chemistry between characters.
Honorable Mentions:
Star Gate SG1: Whoah boy! Such a great idea... so little intrigue. It's hard to understand how they could take this idea and turn it so cheap and "doopid." Okay for late-night viewing when most other stuff is "infomercials."
Andromeda: I was into this when it first started, but now I hardly watch because there doesn't seem to be much chemistry between the characters. The Purple girl is up there with "7" in my hottie list though.
Actually, this is the most "Trek Like" series of "modern" times. In all of the other series (save the original) all interpersonal relationships are about as white-washed and antiseptic as they come. It isn't until DS9 that the Spock & McCoy respect/antagonism thing showed up in the person of Quark & Odo. Even the vanilla doctor, Julian, turns out to be quite the interesting type torn with angst because of genetic engineering. And there was plenty more stuff besides Bajor, there was the worm-hole to the Delta-Quadrant. Truly kewl ideas.
Excuse me.... don't you mean: "Lexx and Farscape?" ;c)
My my my... so many misconceptions! So much ignorance! Where to begin? Perhaps the beginning...
;cD
...And because of Microsoft's HARD WORK making a better browser, they get to decide what HTML, DHTML, Javascript, VBSCript, and XML are...
> Microsoft paid the price to control the dice.
Wrong... Microsoft was handed the dice by IBM -- a matter of *pure luck*. From there Microsoft has taken its initial shaky DOS monopoly and parlayed it into an air-tight Windows monopoly, which in turn has given it a word processing/office/web browser/etc. monopolies... Right now they are trying to turn that into a messaging and even *web* monopoly...
> That's capitalism people -- and as a result we get better products, a better web, better standards of living
The web is better if only Unkie Microsoft can tell you what you can and can't see? I've seen people who have to use the Windows craptacular operating system, and let me tell you, that's about the lowest standard of living there is...
> and a better return on MSFT investment
Ahhhh... where it all comes together! So if there was a business that was taking America by storm that made ricketty, unsafe, bad-mileage cars and used monopolistic practices to keep you from buying a BMW or even a Toyota, you would get into that rattle-trap and change the oil every 10.23 miles just so you could see your stock go up? I guess you would practically shit in your pants with glee if this self-same company shut down the railroads and airline industry and then put toll-booths on the highways every 12.578 miles!
> than those who obsess over unimportant things like having NCSA Mosaic, Netscape 2.0, and Chimera still work and access web pages. Who cares? Noone uses that crap anymore!
No one is obsessing over old browsers... just the fact that web-sites can be made to work with most *all* browsers if you take the time. The REAL problem people are having is the fact that *even MODERN* browsers are being shut out by M$'s monopoly power and we are not getting better products this way!
> This is just another instance of a bitter inventor soured by seeing others take his crude invention and make something successful and marketable and impressive. They did the REAL work, not him!
This is just wrong on so many different levels. The people who did the "REAL" work were EVERYONE who worked on the web -- not just MicroSoft and IE! Hell, Internet Explorer wasn't even created by Microsoft! They screwed Spyglass out of the original source code! How did they do this, you may ask... easy, they made a deal where Microsoft would distribute Spyglass as Internet Explorer and Spyglass would get a percentage of the sales... Guess what? M$ never sold IE! They gave it away for free and coasted on thier OS monopoly while Spyglass went out of business because that was their only source of revenue!
> MSIE is where it is today because it beat the stuffing out of Netscape and every other competing browser, hands down, in a free capitalist marketplace. Just accept it and move on.
Pure unadulterated ignorance. This guy must have learned everything he knows about computers from Microsoft's advertising. M$IE is where it is today because M$ illegally leveraged their OS monopoly to give themselves a browser monopoly. Ever wonder why in almost ten years of "Windows," M$ hasn't made it easier to install/uninstall programs on its OS? Because THEY want the control. The fact that you could not "uninstall" M$IE from Windows '98 and the fact that installing Nestcape on a Microsoft OS produced uneven results (due to hidden/obscure code/protocols) made IE the defacto standard for all new Windows PCs after 1998.
> MSIE is the gold standard now. Thanks to Microsoft's hard work, we now have a single standard, with a single reference implementation (which is also the worlds most popular).
If M$ really WAS so much better than its competitors, why would it need to always give away copies of its competing products along with its OS? Wouldn't M$ make *MORE* money if it just SOLD its browser/word processor/etc? That would mean more money for M$ and higher stock prices, right? That would be good for our Sainted-Company, right?
>
Ahhhh... M$'s hard work again. It's almost as if the writer is having a hard time believing it himself and is trying hard to be convince through repitition. In other words: "We have the power, now even though you invented it and did most of the development work, we'll take it from here because we're smarter and better than you -- we have a monopoly and we know how to use it! Ohhh, and don't forget, if you try to innovate and make some money, don't bother, we'll just give away something just like it after a year or two anyway!"
Does the writer REALLY believe we would even HAVE "HTML, DHTML, Javascript, VBSCript, and XML" if it were all up to M$? Well -- maybe that Fisher-Price scripting language, VBSCRipt, but not PERL or Python or Java, etc... I mean, if M$ hasn't significantly carried the introduction/evolution of these standards to this point, what make him think they are going to come up with and maintain *BETTER* standards in the future? This is M$'s perfect customer, the kind that would move to French Geyana and participate in an M$-sponsored Kool-Aid party if need be.
> not a bunch of academic weenies at the W3C who've never worked in a high-pressure competitive corporate software development workplace.
Yeah, not the PEOPLE WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE for other people to work in a high-pressure competitive corporate software development workplace!
> The people who DO the hard work, and those who spend the bucks to develop a better WWW get to make those choices.
Yeah, it's so easy to come up with web-standards that the "hard working/high-pressure/competitive corporate developers" at Microsoft were ONLY 10-15 years behind the times until the past 3-5 years! "Web standards and consumer choice -- for sale to the highest bidder!" -- Microsoft
> This is how it SHOULD be.
Did you have to work to become this dumb, or does it come naturally?
Edward
My guess is that M$ must have come looking to invest or otherwise get a piece of the action. I think most small businesses would rather get while the gettin's good rather than hang around and be raped by a multi-billion dollar corporation.
Amen to every word, GMH.
"MS should receive exactly the same amount of mercy they would show to anyone else." -- Brilliant!
Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.
Ed
There's no denying the Holocaust happened. I'm just saying don't disrespect the memories of those *many more* who died for the sake of communism by acting like this was the world's biggest extermination of people. It wasn't. http://members.spree.com/ojoronen/murder.htm http://www2.hawaii.edu/~rummel/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM "Another View of Stalin?" Pfft! As if.
"which enabled Hitler to murder the jews more efficiently than thought possible, resulting in the sole largest mass murder in history"
Not to nit-pick, but Hitler is like 2nd or 3rd behind Stalin in Russia and whoever the ruler of China was when they went red.
If you spent more time typing "dialogic drivers linux" in a Google search and less time fuming, you would know by now that there *are* Dialogic drivers for Linux.
For "more information" on M$'s presspass update, you need M$ Word, WordPerfect (a dead product) or M$ MediaPlayer. I guess when Quicktime and RealAudio are finally laid to rest, M$ info will be distributed in those formats as well! Can't wait for more 'innovation' to kill off some more real innovators! ;c)