so concerned about privacy = doesn't care about keeping up to date with web technology?
"You whippersnappers with your javascript and your canvas! HTML 4.1 was fine for me, and we didn't use javascript back in my day! It was considered bad practice even!"
Nope, I don't think these will be the guys to do it. I just think the engineer mindset is too prevalent in the open source world (for good reason of course). We need more designers, UX people and others who are not blinded by the technology involved, to pull it all together into a seamless experience, one where the terminal is relegated to the last resort for the normal users (I'd still be using it every day), it shouldn't be something they have to learn to effectively manage their pc these days.
Ubuntu have been trying, but they suffer the same problem of "it's good enough, all the features are accessible". Look at the software centre, it's a piece of shit. It's not a nice experience to browse and install software through, and as much as that might just sound like fluff to some, it's fucking important to get it right, not just transfer what you can do in the terminal to a gui.
This type of thinking is why mass adoption will never happen on the desktop. You are entirely correct of course, but the OS will continue to be a niche for people who know how to properly use a computer when you only think about things in their technical terms. The same reason the UX and design of open source software has always lagged behind property counter parts, because of thoughts like "If the option is available, then anything else to make it nicer is just wasted cycles, bloat or fluff"
For proper adoption it needs to just work, it's needs to be easy to market and it needs to make sense to joe public. I could sell this to my none geeky friends and family much easier then I could sell ubuntu +pantheon window manager. "Oh it's easy, see you just open the terminal, why yes it does look like what hackers use in movies, now you type sudo apt-get install pantheon... What's that mean? Well, the sudo bit gives you temporary admin access letting you make changes to the system, apt-get is a program that lets you download other programs, install is the command for apt-get and pantheon is the window manager we want to install... well the window manager is what the OS uses to give you windows, it manages how.. *looks up and sees a blank face looking back with glazed eyes* you know what, nevermind. Ok, log out and then select which window manager you want to use, yes there are a variety to choose from, why? well, because "choice is good"... oh, you think that's confusing? Well I guess it could be... blah blah blah
Compare that to "Check out something called Elementary OS. You might like it compared to windows"
There was a video last year ago showing off an early prototype. It uses a docking station, which you plug your periphals into, there is a dialer program that lets you make and receive calls.
Pretty easy these days, you can setup a master password on the page where you access the plain text passwords.Most people don't do this though, and do use the remember my login feature. Really it should be one of the first things it gets you to do when you setup the browser.
I regularly do this, for longer, and with more tabs sometimes in multiple windows or tab groups. It's memory usage is normally around 500mb for me, when was the last time you tried running firefox like that? v4 maybe?
"This doesn't solve all our problems all at once, therefore it's a pile of crap!" There is no magic bullet. As a side note, I am getting a bit sick and tired of the abuse of the words liberal and conservative and the totally wacko connotations they now posses thanks to people like you.
oh my god... I didn't even click onto the 3.11 thing.... of course!
But, all those rating my original post as a troll.. wtf, I was really asking why, I had a proper woosh moment. And even then, how the hell could the words "What? Why?" be construed as trolling.
It's all memorization of facts. Half truths about the nature of things. That with each year your understand has to change for the next test because everything they had taught you up to that point, was not quite true. There is next to no lessons on the process of science or what peer review is, and how scientists are trying to prove each other wrong etc.
once again, you can still turn javascript off, those that do are likely to be at the very least, power users, who are comfortable with about:config, where you can find that option. If not comfortable using about:config, then they'll know how to install an extension.
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It is open source itself. troll.
http://multipath-tcp.org/pmwiki.php/Users/DoItYourself
so concerned about privacy = doesn't care about keeping up to date with web technology?
"You whippersnappers with your javascript and your canvas! HTML 4.1 was fine for me, and we didn't use javascript back in my day! It was considered bad practice even!"
Dislike Obama all you like, but jesus christ, are you 12? Obummer? Really?
Pakistan != Palestine
Please tell me, which hospital do I go to where they'll give me medical grade H instead of morphine? I feel a spinal fracture coming on.
Nope, I don't think these will be the guys to do it. I just think the engineer mindset is too prevalent in the open source world (for good reason of course). We need more designers, UX people and others who are not blinded by the technology involved, to pull it all together into a seamless experience, one where the terminal is relegated to the last resort for the normal users (I'd still be using it every day), it shouldn't be something they have to learn to effectively manage their pc these days.
Ubuntu have been trying, but they suffer the same problem of "it's good enough, all the features are accessible". Look at the software centre, it's a piece of shit. It's not a nice experience to browse and install software through, and as much as that might just sound like fluff to some, it's fucking important to get it right, not just transfer what you can do in the terminal to a gui.
This type of thinking is why mass adoption will never happen on the desktop. You are entirely correct of course, but the OS will continue to be a niche for people who know how to properly use a computer when you only think about things in their technical terms. The same reason the UX and design of open source software has always lagged behind property counter parts, because of thoughts like "If the option is available, then anything else to make it nicer is just wasted cycles, bloat or fluff"
For proper adoption it needs to just work, it's needs to be easy to market and it needs to make sense to joe public. I could sell this to my none geeky friends and family much easier then I could sell ubuntu +pantheon window manager. "Oh it's easy, see you just open the terminal, why yes it does look like what hackers use in movies, now you type sudo apt-get install pantheon... What's that mean? Well, the sudo bit gives you temporary admin access letting you make changes to the system, apt-get is a program that lets you download other programs, install is the command for apt-get and pantheon is the window manager we want to install... well the window manager is what the OS uses to give you windows, it manages how.. *looks up and sees a blank face looking back with glazed eyes* you know what, nevermind. Ok, log out and then select which window manager you want to use, yes there are a variety to choose from, why? well, because "choice is good"... oh, you think that's confusing? Well I guess it could be... blah blah blah
Compare that to "Check out something called Elementary OS. You might like it compared to windows"
There was a video last year ago showing off an early prototype. It uses a docking station, which you plug your periphals into, there is a dialer program that lets you make and receive calls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6eEDZva1W8
Pretty easy these days, you can setup a master password on the page where you access the plain text passwords.Most people don't do this though, and do use the remember my login feature. Really it should be one of the first things it gets you to do when you setup the browser.
I regularly do this, for longer, and with more tabs sometimes in multiple windows or tab groups. It's memory usage is normally around 500mb for me, when was the last time you tried running firefox like that? v4 maybe?
so crowd funding is only for poor people?
Unless your mouth is a meat grinder, he wasn't referring to chewing with your mouth.
1) You write as if Al Gore is the authority in climate change.
2) You want to be taken seriously.
You may pick one.
"This doesn't solve all our problems all at once, therefore it's a pile of crap!" There is no magic bullet.
As a side note, I am getting a bit sick and tired of the abuse of the words liberal and conservative and the totally wacko connotations they now posses thanks to people like you.
Thank you for just giving the answer and not deciding I was trolling (wtf?). I totally missed the 3.11 connection, had a woosh moment.
oh my god... I didn't even click onto the 3.11 thing.... of course!
But, all those rating my original post as a troll.. wtf, I was really asking why, I had a proper woosh moment. And even then, how the hell could the words "What? Why?" be construed as trolling.
why?
Would you like to explain what you mean, or do you just want to post bumper sticker-esque nonsense?
Equating greed with ambition is a bit sad.
It's all memorization of facts. Half truths about the nature of things. That with each year your understand has to change for the next test because everything they had taught you up to that point, was not quite true. There is next to no lessons on the process of science or what peer review is, and how scientists are trying to prove each other wrong etc.
Science education up until college is a joke.
How stupid did you think AC was?
Why is this making me think of private torrent trackers?
You mean the same way it happened with the 1st revolution? Just with much less bloodshed and prolonged rioting?
any real user knows how to use about:config
once again, you can still turn javascript off, those that do are likely to be at the very least, power users, who are comfortable with about:config, where you can find that option. If not comfortable using about:config, then they'll know how to install an extension.