nearly every mac user that I know who isn't a secretary or grade school teacher could hold their own on a unix workstation.
oh really? most of the mac users i know are arrogant tossers who somehow think that using a mac makes them "creative" while we techies are just boring geeks to them.
Under OSS this kind of challenge would become 'Hey, I just found this neat way to make this box go faster. Why don't you have a look at the code and see if you can use or improve it?'
unlike open source advocates, i have no problems with my ego or my sense of self worth. so i'll take the $$$ instead, ohyes.
price for price, you can buy a dual PII-400 from dell for the same price as a top-end G3, and the NT box will win for any real-world tasks like photoshop, CAD, rendering, serving, whatever.
I bought my mac (7600/132) when i was at college 'cos i needed the high floating-point performance (running mklinux), but apple these days are trading entirely on past goodwill and slick marketing.
It's the TPC-D benchmark, which is an industry standard designed to simulate datawarehousing style jobs. Microsoft don't have anything to compare to oracle's new MVIEWs, which is why they fail.
However, this isn't the point: in the midrange space (say, a few dozen gigabytes) microsoft are poised to make big inroads, mostly in OLAP where they have a relatively mature toolset available. A quad xeon by compaq is competitive with Sun's E250 and E450 boxes in this space.
Note also, however, that oracle runs, and runs well, on NT. An oracle engineer told me the other week that they don't really care about the OS at this stage, they just want to sell database products while they complete their preparation for Raw Iron.
i *very* much doubt perl/tk is faster than VB5, and it doesn't even come close to VB's database app RAD capability.
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... which is fine for hacking trivial cgis in your bedroom, but almost useless for long-term ongoing team projects. languages like pl/sql and ada force you into nice structures and enforce data types.
i have experienced excellent performance improvements on NT for both web serving and SQL server, over already impressive performance, approximately 1.9x for the first CPU added, dropping to avout 3.4 for quad CPUs.
you'd expect 16 cpus giving approximately 14x the performance of 1 on a modern SGI, as a rule of thumb. sequents, tho', are about as close to linear as you can get.
that's very naive. communism and fascism are simply variations of collectivism: the idea that the wishes of the individual are worthless and exist only to serve the state/the church/whatever.
So Microsoft supporters do try to sow division...
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FYI, i run red hat at home, and use bash and xemacs every day.
there is a *lot* of good open source stuff, but linux isn't an example of it.
err, no. intel wants you to keep on upgrading, it's the only way they can survive. they are very smart, and realise that low margins/high volume and a constant upgrade cycle/path are key to long-term success. and it's worked, and jealous, incompetent competitors want to government to help them.
i can't understand why ESR can even be mentioned in the same book as people like RMS. He's done nothing for open source but shoot his mouth off. (yes i know he wrote a couple of tiny programs once. big deal).
the brain is just biology, which is just an abstraction layer on top of chemistry, which is similarly abstracted above physics. nothing non-computable there.
you'd *never* have had cheap desktop kit without microsoft driving the market for machines to run its products. it would be terminals and mainframes only. in a very real way, bill gates is the father of linux.
mmm, sending every mouse movement across the network is so efficient.... NOT
X is a travesty of a windowing system, NT's client/server approach is *way* superior. and anyhting you want to script, you can with WSH.
as for the graphics, show me Maya or Lightwave on linux... and get a clue before you post. All the bashing of NT i see here is from people who've no idea how to use it.
idiot - scientists don't care about OS, they just want to write fortran (or matlab or whatever) and run batch jobs. it's only geeks who spend all their time playing and no time working that actually get upset over it.
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FUD from the linux camp, FUD from the microsoft camp, that's all we ever read these days.
err, there was nothing in the article to suggest 'force'. maybe microsoft just said 'please' nicely.
(the author said 'thumbscrews' but he was clearly lying)
oooh, i high school kiddie! and he has an elite warez d00d name! and look, some k-rad buddies!
loser.
oracle 8 (especially 8i) *is* a big deal.
macos x is too little, too late.
oh really? most of the mac users i know are arrogant tossers who somehow think that using a mac makes them "creative" while we techies are just boring geeks to them.
unlike open source advocates, i have no problems with my ego or my sense of self worth. so i'll take the $$$ instead, ohyes.
price for price, you can buy a dual PII-400 from dell for the same price as a top-end G3, and the NT box will win for any real-world tasks like photoshop, CAD, rendering, serving, whatever.
I bought my mac (7600/132) when i was at college 'cos i needed the high floating-point performance (running mklinux), but apple these days are trading entirely on past goodwill and slick marketing.
It's the TPC-D benchmark, which is an industry standard designed to simulate datawarehousing style jobs. Microsoft don't have anything to compare to oracle's new MVIEWs, which is why they fail.
However, this isn't the point: in the midrange space (say, a few dozen gigabytes) microsoft are poised to make big inroads, mostly in OLAP where they have a relatively mature toolset available. A quad xeon by compaq is competitive with Sun's E250 and E450 boxes in this space.
Note also, however, that oracle runs, and runs well, on NT. An oracle engineer told me the other week that they don't really care about the OS at this stage, they just want to sell database products while they complete their preparation for Raw Iron.
i *very* much doubt perl/tk is faster than VB5, and it doesn't even come close to VB's database app RAD capability.
... which is fine for hacking trivial cgis in your bedroom, but almost useless for long-term ongoing team projects. languages like pl/sql and ada force you into nice structures and enforce data types.
i have experienced excellent performance improvements on NT for both web serving and SQL server, over already impressive performance, approximately 1.9x for the first CPU added, dropping to avout 3.4 for quad CPUs.
you'd expect 16 cpus giving approximately 14x the performance of 1 on a modern SGI, as a rule of thumb. sequents, tho', are about as close to linear as you can get.
only on linux, where threading is broken. on a real OS, threading means that you don't need to context switch.
that's very naive. communism and fascism are simply variations of collectivism: the idea that the wishes of the individual are worthless and exist only to serve the state/the church/whatever.
FYI, i run red hat at home, and use bash and xemacs every day.
there is a *lot* of good open source stuff, but linux isn't an example of it.
you have absolutely no idea what 'fascist' means, do you? easier for you to post nonsense than think for yourself, isn't it?
the only supporters of socialism are those who are stupid, dishonest and lazy and hate folk who aren't.
err, no. intel wants you to keep on upgrading, it's the only way they can survive. they are very smart, and realise that low margins/high volume and a constant upgrade cycle/path are key to long-term success. and it's worked, and jealous, incompetent competitors want to government to help them.
personally, i respect people who *do* things, not people who just talk about other folk's work.
ESR is the dilbert-style marketing slime of the open source world.
i can't understand why ESR can even be mentioned in the same book as people like RMS. He's done nothing for open source but shoot his mouth off.
(yes i know he wrote a couple of tiny programs once. big deal).
the brain is just biology, which is just an abstraction layer on top of chemistry, which is similarly abstracted above physics. nothing non-computable there.
you'd *never* have had cheap desktop kit without microsoft driving the market for machines to run its products. it would be terminals and mainframes only. in a very real way, bill gates is the father of linux.
mmm, sending every mouse movement across the network is so efficient.... NOT
X is a travesty of a windowing system, NT's client/server approach is *way* superior. and anyhting you want to script, you can with WSH.
as for the graphics, show me Maya or Lightwave on linux... and get a clue before you post. All the bashing of NT i see here is from people who've no idea how to use it.
SGI's crossbar switch and cache-coherent NUMA are superior to Sun's.
"It takes forever to get a connection to Oracle."
only if you're incompetent. OWAS is extremely fast.
idiot - scientists don't care about OS, they just want to write fortran (or matlab or whatever) and run batch jobs. it's only geeks who spend all their time playing and no time working that actually get upset over it.