Actually this has not much to do with multiplexing, which is already in place to a large degree. I think (AT&T at least) is using about 6-7 different colors on their main fibers...
The colors dont interfere anyways, but having a higher reflectivity should make it so you can have longer runs of cables without repeater stations.
I'll spend my money and make my kids smarter, better, and quicker. This is the way it is, has always been, and always will be. You're kidding youself if you think otherwise. It just so happens that genetic engineering is the ultimate expression of this phenonomon. We've got lots of problems in society as is; This isn't the biggest. Might it be 100 years from now? Maybe. But I'll make sure my offspring have every advantage I can give them in that world, the same as my parents did for me, and the same as their parents did for them.
Selfishness and greed. Makes one wonder if the human race deserves to survive.
Wrong answer private. Animals do the same thing. They want their offspring to have better chances to survive than other animals. Its the law of nature. Survival. Members of the feline family have been known to eat offspring of other prides to ensure sufficent resources for their own progeny. Do they deserve to live? Its survival of fittest, and always has been. Do my kids "deserve" to survive more than yours? I dont know, thats a moral question. But I will do whatever it takes to make sure my kids will survive, hopefully NOT at the expense of others. However I would be remiss as a parent *NOT* to give them whatever advantages I can.
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Yeah, and the comment about ATT "divesting itself" of the baby bells. Yeah right, it was not like the Federal Government *made em* do it, they wanted to break up.
"You may not agree with the law or its interpretation, but that's no excuse for breaking it! If you disagree that badly then there are perfectly legal means to protest which are a lot more effective in the long run. This case certainly proves that point."
I couldnot disagree more. When a citizen beleives a law to be wrong, immoral, or unethical, he/she is not only obligated to speak out against it, but I believe he/she is obligated to break it. (Civil Disobedience).
He forgot to mention one point, the sound quality of MP3s is quite a bit less than CD's. Some people might not care, but if youre like me, you like CLEAN sounding music. The difference is sound quality is especially noticable with a nice set of headphones.
I use Napster/MP3's to decide whether or not I like an artist/album before I shell out $15 for a CD that might suck.
Yes, I download music off of Napster (piracy, I guess), but if I like it, I'll go buy the CD. If I don't like it, I will get around to deleting it, sooner or later, honest. I dont want to keep my harddrive full of music I dont like.
I'm all for indie artists, and I have no intentions of stealing their music. They will simply have to trust fans to buy their CD's after they sample it. Real fans WONT steal from the bands they love.
Whatever Anonymous Coward. Programs suck nowadays for the same reason we got left with the Y2K bug, management decisions. Too much work, too few coders, and no time to do anything right, much less test. You think kids cant program nowadays? Can you say Linux? Ever seen Half-Life?
Dont make blanket statements out your ass like " And some people wonder why software is so bad. Becuase the goddam kids can't program at all. Not like my day... "
Im not even that good of a programmer, but I would throw the guantlet down with you anyday. Bring it on old cranky anonymous codger.
I saw some interesting posts about the end of humanity, and Terminator and all that stuff.
Some friends and I went shooting yesterday, and some of the things we shot at were old hard drives, old old PC's, etc etc. We even placed some 1/2 inch steel plates in front of said targets to see which calibers would penetrate etc. Unfortunately, I forgot my camera so I have no pics, but just because something is made out of metal does not means its bullet proof.
As long as we keep the guns, I dont care how smart, or able, or capable robots become. If we give them guns, and control over the military we are in deep doo-doo.
My advice, is to keep the weapons away from them, and keep your own. (Preferably a decent sized caliber rifle, or a monster handgun like a casull 454)
My real concern however is what will happen to humanity if robot capabilities progress to the point of doing everything. Humans will atrophy in all ways if we dont have to do anything anymore. Fading out to me is much more scary then getting stamped out.
P.S. If anyone cares heres some of the results of our unoffical experiments:
A standard tower PC can actually stop shotgun pellets (at smaller guage of shot, we didnot have the heavier shot to try with). The pellets simply would not penetrate the case. Any other weapon though, such as slugs in the shotgun, or even a little.22 went right through it no problem. Now thinking that robots might have a little more armor, (ala Terminator) We put some 1/2inch think steel plates in front of the PC's. This steel stopped all caliber pistols,.22,.30(special).357 and.40 caliber. The only pistol that would penetrate (only on a clean shot) was my.454 casull, and this was with only solid rounds. Hollowpoint or softtips would just mush up. The 7.62 X 39 assault rifle rounds were another story. Right through it like it wasnot even there.
You can have my guns when you pry my cold dead finger off the trigger.
Please dont try to divine my attitudes or intentions. I do not believe the internet belongs to the US, nor do I feel I have the superior attitude of "feel lucky you can play with it". I just didnot(and still dont) see where this new site claims to be the end-all for all internet laws everywhere. You claimed it was, and was lacking in non-US content. If it does claim to be the end all for all Internet law, you would be right, but again, I dont see this attitude on the site. Am I wrong?
When are we going to get "internet" sites that notice the rest of the world?" </whine>
When the rest of the world gets off its ass and does it itself.
If you want something, build it yourself. Why do people expect someone else to do everything and then bitch and moan about how it does not make every single person in the world happy?
As everyone knows the purpose of taxes is to help provide services for everybody. US Fed taxes provide for our military, federal highways, and other useful things. States tax us for state level services, unemployment, state highways, blah blah. Counties and cities tax us for schools, county/city roads, cops, firefighetrs, water and sewer services.
I have no problem paying these taxes for these useful services. Its the useless BS that I hate paying for. Subsidies to farmers to NOT grow things? Foriegn aid to countries that take our money and then spit in out face? Welfare for people who dont want to work? Blah blah the list goes on.
The concept of taxing internet sales to "level" the playing field is crap. Alot of people still use and will continue to use meatspace shopping. I for one like to look at something with my own eyes before I buy it. I only buy things online if I already know exactly what I want, and I can find it cheaper. So what if meatspace stores have to pay more taxes? They have some value that online shopping cant necessarily compete with. Let the consumer choose, and if the store front goes the way of the dinosaur, so be it. Dont try to kill the online shopping idea so its "fair".
Also, the concept of taxing retail stores to help provide for the infrastructure somewhat makes sense. But in a way it doesnot. The 60% Tax I pay for my gas pays for roads. My local taxes already pay for the cops. What infrastructure is the govt providing that they need my money for, that they dont already get from somewhere else? They didnot build the mall, the retailers/land owners did. They pay local property taxes for cops etc too.
This concept goes even further with the internet. What infrastructure do I need to pay for again? The internet is mostly owned by big ISP's, and I pay for that infrastructure by my ISP fees.
This is just another way to get more blood from the people.
"Rap artists Dr. Dre has filed suit against five universities and students for violating copyright laws by using Napster. the lawsuit did not specifically name any students or schools it left them open to be named later. The lawsuit seeks $100,000 per illegally copied work. In an unrelated story Dr. Dre has been sued by LucasFilm or using the trademark THX sound at the beginning of his album, even after being denied permission. (I guess it is Ok to steal other peoples work as long as they don't steal yours.) "
"Crawling through a field in hostile territory, a soldier spots an enemy. What does he do? He might fire up his palmtop computer, pinpoint the exact GPS coordinates of the foe, and pipe the information over a satellite phone network back to headquarters. "
I have an idea, why dont you just shoot him?
While you are sitting there trying to get CE to work right, said NMY is gonna stick a knife in your ass ala CounterStrike.
I dont even use Roger Wilco anymore when I play CS, its too distracting. Invariably someone comes up and pops me while I am blabbering about an enemy I should be shooting at instead of talking about.
I can see it now, "US Army suffers defeat when the primitive cave men threw dirt in their high tech devices, and beat them with clubs."
The math and science looked OK, but I saw some weird things in the magentic fields drawings in the book. I called the author (he actually lives in my home town) but he was an ass, and didnot want to be bothered to answer my question.
If you do a search on the net, you will find some people (ordinary Joes) who have built this thing and supposedly gotten it to work.
Essentialy it works on the premise of matter to energy conversion, at a ultra slow rate, hence the need for mass quantities of copper.
I would agree with you. Many Americans I know are ashamed about a many great things regarding our country. Our leaders have no moral or ethical constraints, we go around blowing the shit out small defenseless countries (Bosnia) and give crap to others who try to do the same thing (Chechnya/Tibet/etc).
As far as the trade/imperialist idea of shoving bad things down other countries throats (such as cigarattes) the American people also suffer from it. Advertising cannot be escaped, phone, snail mail, email, radio, TV, its everywhere, and it invades our senses like a something rotten...
We are talking about 3 seperate things: 1. American Government (yuck) 2. Massive INTERNATIONAL corporations (double yuck) ( I happen to work for ING, a Dutch financial group of companies which has more money than most countries) 3. American People (most of whom are decent and just want to be left alone). 3a. I would also add that most People anywhere are decent and just want to be left alone.
Im sure you heard about the demonstrations at Seattle re WTO. We dont like it either.
You mentioned giving food to starving Africans, but only if they quit having kids. Whats wrong with that? Am I responsible for the poor resource management of someone in some other country? If some people or country cant feed their people, am OBLIGATED to help? No I sure as hell am not. I WILL help, because I WANT TO, but I dont want to have to help twice as many people the next time.
You dont like handouts with conditions? Then dont ask for em.
This brings up another subject which chaps my ass. The current peace process going on re Isreal. Isreal seems to think the US should give them about $16Billion dollars in military (including Stealth Technology) and financial aid, or they won't accept the peace process.
Jews and Arabs have been fighting since the time of Abraham, and they are going to keep fighting until the end of time. Why the hell should I(yes me, my taxes) cough up cash so two little spoiled brats will stop fighting and play nice?
Piss on them! Let em blow each other hell if they want, I am tired of working my ass off so the rest of the world can get free rides.
By the way, my "fat grease burger white ass" as so you eloquently put it happens to provide financial aid to 6 people...mostly children in developing nations. They get an education, decent food and a sense that someone cares. Again, because I want too, not because I am obligated to.
Besides, where do you come from? Nothing bad ever happens where you are? Your government has never done anything bad to anyone? No attrocites? No genocide? No forced relocations?
Just what we need, another type of useless activity, not the experiment istelf but rather 50 Million Bots running around soaking up precious internet bandwidth for no reason.
Any type of AI research is worthwhile, but even 99% of the people in IRC are a waste of DNA.
John Katz obviously doesnot like the merger, but he seems to forget one simple fact...
If you dont like AOL, dont use it. If you dont like the watered down news coming out of Time-Warner, dont read it. As long as there are alternatives, theres no problem. Mergers are one of the natural results of capitialism.
Monopolies only exist where there no alternative to one's companies products, or where unfair business practices are used.
Microsoft is far more of a monoploy than AOL-Time. Why? Fewer alternatives.
OS/2? Good OS?, but no support. Macintosh? Fine, if you want to buy a new machine. Linux? In time, yes. Right now, its just not major league. (Asbestos suit put on- im sorry but when more hardware works, and when more software is available, sure.)
Microsoft also has a proven track record for squashing competition and doing other nefarious business practices.
With AOL-Time, you dont have to use them. I dont use AOL, havenot for many many moons. I happen to like CNN, but if they start to suck, I can go to any number of sites for alternatives. (Not that it really matters, 95% of all news comes from Associated Press or Reuters).
Bottom line, we still have choices. Excerice your right to make them.
Slashdot Mirror
Actually this has not much to do with multiplexing, which is already in place to a large degree. I think (AT&T at least) is using about 6-7 different colors on their main fibers...
The colors dont interfere anyways, but having a higher reflectivity should make it so you can have longer runs of cables without repeater stations.
One day super advanced aliens are going to come to Earth and grab a few billion of us and stick us in space and see if some of us survive.
snip:
I'll spend my money and make my kids smarter, better, and quicker. This is the way it is, has always been, and always will be. You're kidding youself if you think otherwise. It just so happens that genetic engineering is the ultimate expression of this phenonomon. We've got lots of problems in society as is; This isn't the biggest. Might it be 100 years from now? Maybe. But I'll make sure my offspring have every advantage I can give them in that world, the same as my parents did for me, and the same as their parents did for them.
Selfishness and greed. Makes one wonder if the human race deserves to survive.
Wrong answer private. Animals do the same thing. They want their offspring to have better chances to survive than other animals. Its the law of nature. Survival. Members of the feline family have been known to eat offspring of other prides to ensure sufficent resources for their own progeny. Do they deserve to live? Its survival of fittest, and always has been. Do my kids "deserve" to survive more than yours? I dont know, thats a moral question. But I will do whatever it takes to make sure my kids will survive, hopefully NOT at the expense of others. However I would be remiss as a parent *NOT* to give them whatever advantages I can.
Yeah, and the comment about ATT "divesting itself" of the baby bells. Yeah right, it was not like the Federal Government *made em* do it, they wanted to break up.
Heh.
snip:
"You may not agree with the law or its interpretation, but that's no excuse for breaking it! If you disagree that badly then there are perfectly legal means to protest which are a lot more effective in the long run. This case certainly proves that point."
I couldnot disagree more. When a citizen beleives a law to be wrong, immoral, or unethical, he/she is not only obligated to speak out against it, but I believe he/she is obligated to break it. (Civil Disobedience).
Ever read Henry Thoreau?
"If a Law is unjust, a just man belongs in jail"
So if a butterfly flaps its wings in China, it rains in New York. If I fart in New York, does it snow in Beijing?
Read the article, it looks like they cut and pasted once section two times...
Its good to know the quality of their journalism is no better than ours...
Sure they do.
I detected no humor or irony or joke in his post.
Did you?
He forgot to mention one point, the sound quality of MP3s is quite a bit less than CD's. Some people might not care, but if youre like me, you like CLEAN sounding music. The difference is sound quality is especially noticable with a nice set of headphones.
I use Napster/MP3's to decide whether or not I like an artist/album before I shell out $15 for a CD that might suck.
Yes, I download music off of Napster (piracy, I guess), but if I like it, I'll go buy the CD. If I don't like it, I will get around to deleting it, sooner or later, honest. I dont want to keep my harddrive full of music I dont like.
I'm all for indie artists, and I have no intentions of stealing their music. They will simply have to trust fans to buy their CD's after they sample it. Real fans WONT steal from the bands they love.
Whatever Anonymous Coward. Programs suck nowadays for the same reason we got left with the Y2K bug, management decisions. Too much work, too few coders, and no time to do anything right, much less test. You think kids cant program nowadays? Can you say Linux? Ever seen Half-Life?
Dont make blanket statements out your ass like " And some people wonder why software is so bad. Becuase the goddam kids can't program at all. Not like my day... "
Im not even that good of a programmer, but I would throw the guantlet down with you anyday. Bring it on old cranky anonymous codger.
I saw some interesting posts about the end of humanity, and Terminator and all that stuff.
.22 went right through it no problem. Now thinking that robots might have a little more armor, (ala Terminator) We put some 1/2inch think steel plates in front of the PC's. This steel stopped all caliber pistols, .22, .30(special) .357 and .40 caliber. The only pistol that would penetrate (only on a clean shot) was my .454 casull, and this was with only solid rounds. Hollowpoint or softtips would just mush up. The 7.62 X 39 assault rifle rounds were another story. Right through it like it wasnot even there.
Some friends and I went shooting yesterday, and some of the things we shot at were old hard drives, old old PC's, etc etc. We even placed some 1/2 inch steel plates in front of said targets to see which calibers would penetrate etc. Unfortunately, I forgot my camera so I have no pics, but just because something is made out of metal does not means its bullet proof.
As long as we keep the guns, I dont care how smart, or able, or capable robots become. If we give them guns, and control over the military we are in deep doo-doo.
My advice, is to keep the weapons away from them, and keep your own. (Preferably a decent sized caliber rifle, or a monster handgun like a casull 454)
My real concern however is what will happen to humanity if robot capabilities progress to the point of doing everything. Humans will atrophy in all ways if we dont have to do anything anymore. Fading out to me is much more scary then getting stamped out.
P.S. If anyone cares heres some of the results of our unoffical experiments:
A standard tower PC can actually stop shotgun pellets (at smaller guage of shot, we didnot have the heavier shot to try with). The pellets simply would not penetrate the case. Any other weapon though, such as slugs in the shotgun, or even a little
You can have my guns when you pry my cold dead finger off the trigger.
Please dont try to divine my attitudes or intentions. I do not believe the internet belongs to the US, nor do I feel I have the superior attitude of "feel lucky you can play with it". I just didnot(and still dont) see where this new site claims to be the end-all for all internet laws everywhere. You claimed it was, and was lacking in non-US content. If it does claim to be the end all for all Internet law, you would be right, but again, I dont see this attitude on the site. Am I wrong?
When are we going to get "internet" sites that notice the rest of the world?"
</whine>
When the rest of the world gets off its ass and does it itself.
If you want something, build it yourself.
Why do people expect someone else to do everything and then bitch and moan about how it does not make every single person in the world happy?
Crybabies.
As everyone knows the purpose of taxes is to help provide services for everybody. US Fed taxes provide for our military, federal highways, and other useful things. States tax us for state level services, unemployment, state highways, blah blah. Counties and cities tax us for schools, county/city roads, cops, firefighetrs, water and sewer services.
I have no problem paying these taxes for these useful services. Its the useless BS that I hate paying for. Subsidies to farmers to NOT grow things? Foriegn aid to countries that take our money and then spit in out face? Welfare for people who dont want to work? Blah blah the list goes on.
The concept of taxing internet sales to "level" the playing field is crap. Alot of people still use and will continue to use meatspace shopping. I for one like to look at something with my own eyes before I buy it. I only buy things online if I already know exactly what I want, and I can find it cheaper. So what if meatspace stores have to pay more taxes? They have some value that online shopping cant necessarily compete with. Let the consumer choose, and if the store front goes the way of the dinosaur, so be it. Dont try to kill the online shopping idea so its "fair".
Also, the concept of taxing retail stores to help provide for the infrastructure somewhat makes sense. But in a way it doesnot. The 60% Tax I pay for my gas pays for roads. My local taxes already pay for the cops. What infrastructure is the govt providing that they need my money for, that they dont already get from somewhere else?
They didnot build the mall, the retailers/land owners did. They pay local property taxes for cops etc too.
This concept goes even further with the internet.
What infrastructure do I need to pay for again?
The internet is mostly owned by big ISP's, and I pay for that infrastructure by my ISP fees.
This is just another way to get more blood from the people.
Anarchy Burger! Hold the Government!
- Steel
Will someone who has a NY Times account
post the body of the text for those of us
who dont want an account?
When will you Brits pay attention to the details,
this guy is from Norway.
Besides, shooting things worked pretty good
when we wanted our independence, and when we saved
your asses from the Krauts twice in a row...etc
etc
According the hackernews.com
and i quote:
"Rap artists Dr. Dre has filed suit against five universities and students for violating copyright laws by using Napster. the lawsuit did not specifically name any students or schools it left them open to be named later. The lawsuit seeks $100,000 per illegally copied work. In an unrelated story Dr. Dre has been sued by LucasFilm
or using the trademark THX sound at the beginning of his album, even after being denied permission. (I guess it is Ok to steal other peoples work as long as they don't steal yours.) "
And I quote:
"Crawling through a field in hostile territory, a soldier spots an enemy. What does he do? He might fire up his palmtop computer, pinpoint the
exact GPS coordinates of the foe, and pipe the information over a satellite phone network back to headquarters. "
I have an idea, why dont you just shoot him?
While you are sitting there trying to get CE to work right, said NMY is gonna stick a knife in your ass ala CounterStrike.
I dont even use Roger Wilco anymore when I play CS, its too distracting. Invariably someone comes up and pops me while I am blabbering about an enemy I should be shooting at instead of talking about.
I can see it now, "US Army suffers defeat when the primitive cave men threw dirt in their high tech devices, and beat them with clubs."
Here someone who thinks he has one,
c erpts.html
I read the book (7th edition) but didnot have 500
lbs of copper laying around.
http://home.earthlink.net/~josephnewman/book_ex
The math and science looked OK, but I saw some weird things in the magentic fields drawings in the book. I called the author (he actually lives in my home town) but he was an ass, and didnot want to be bothered to answer my question.
If you do a search on the net, you will find some people (ordinary Joes) who have built this thing and supposedly gotten it to work.
Essentialy it works on the premise of matter to energy conversion, at a ultra slow rate, hence the need for mass quantities of copper.
"People are people so why should it be
...
that you and I should get along so awfully?"
Spying has always been a part of inter-governmental relations(ally or not)...get over it, or do it better than we do.
I dont think governments are the enemy, but rather corporations. Consumerism/greed will be the end of us all.
Oh, and by the way, piss on the UN, and the WTO, and the MPAA, and the
- Inbred Redneck American
"but IIS is no slouch either. "
Take a look at the number of security advisories and bug tracking for IIS.
You might change your opinion.
The Orlando International Airport.
I tried my damnest to get to it from Kissimee (Disney Land) and could not with out paying tolls...
Forging Bastidges...
I would agree with you. Many Americans I know are ashamed about a many great things regarding our country. Our leaders have no moral or ethical constraints, we go around blowing the shit out small defenseless countries (Bosnia) and give crap to others who try to do the same thing (Chechnya/Tibet/etc).
As far as the trade/imperialist idea of shoving bad things down other countries throats (such as cigarattes) the American people also suffer from it. Advertising cannot be escaped, phone, snail mail, email, radio, TV, its everywhere, and it invades our senses like a something rotten...
We are talking about 3 seperate things:
1. American Government (yuck)
2. Massive INTERNATIONAL corporations (double yuck) ( I happen to work for ING, a Dutch financial group of companies which has more money than most countries)
3. American People (most of whom are decent and just want to be left alone).
3a. I would also add that most People anywhere are decent and just want to be left alone.
Im sure you heard about the demonstrations at Seattle re WTO. We dont like it either.
You mentioned giving food to starving Africans, but only if they quit having kids. Whats wrong with that? Am I responsible for the poor resource management of someone in some other country? If some people or country cant feed their people, am OBLIGATED to help? No I sure as hell am not. I WILL help, because I WANT TO, but I dont want to have to help twice as many people the next time.
You dont like handouts with conditions? Then dont ask for em.
This brings up another subject which chaps my ass.
The current peace process going on re Isreal.
Isreal seems to think the US should give them about $16Billion dollars in military (including Stealth Technology) and financial aid, or they won't accept the peace process.
Jews and Arabs have been fighting since the time of Abraham, and they are going to keep fighting until the end of time. Why the hell should I(yes me, my taxes) cough up cash so two little spoiled brats will stop fighting and play nice?
Piss on them! Let em blow each other hell if they want, I am tired of working my ass off so the rest of the world can get free rides.
By the way, my "fat grease burger white ass" as so you eloquently put it happens to provide financial aid to 6 people...mostly children in developing nations. They get an education, decent food and a sense that someone cares. Again, because I want too, not because I am obligated to.
Besides, where do you come from? Nothing bad ever happens where you are? Your government has never done anything bad to anyone? No attrocites? No genocide? No forced relocations?
Anonymous Coward indeed.
Just what we need, another type of useless activity, not the experiment istelf but rather 50 Million Bots running around soaking up precious internet bandwidth for no reason.
Any type of AI research is worthwhile, but even 99% of the people in IRC are a waste of DNA.
John Katz obviously doesnot like the merger, but he seems to forget one simple fact...
If you dont like AOL, dont use it. If you dont like the watered down news coming out of Time-Warner, dont read it. As long as there are alternatives, theres no problem. Mergers are one of the natural results of capitialism.
Monopolies only exist where there no alternative to one's companies products, or where unfair business practices are used.
Microsoft is far more of a monoploy than AOL-Time.
Why? Fewer alternatives.
OS/2? Good OS?, but no support.
Macintosh? Fine, if you want to buy a new machine.
Linux? In time, yes. Right now, its just not major league. (Asbestos suit put on- im sorry but when more hardware works, and when more software is available, sure.)
Microsoft also has a proven track record for squashing competition and doing other nefarious business practices.
With AOL-Time, you dont have to use them.
I dont use AOL, havenot for many many moons.
I happen to like CNN, but if they start to suck, I can go to any number of sites for alternatives. (Not that it really matters, 95% of all news comes from Associated Press or Reuters).
Bottom line, we still have choices. Excerice your right to make them.