You'd be surprised. I know a few people that use Pandora constantly, even though they have their own large mp3 collections. A couple of others I know that uses streaming music do it because they're not computer literate enough to rip their cd's to mp3 and set everything up properly.
Ok if we build a time machine and go back 40 years you have a point. You got me. I don't deny that our hands aren't clean here, and we've done some pretty crappy things to our own citizens.
However, during 8 years of the inept Bush administration, even he never had anyone shot in the street for protesting. (His VP may have shot someone in the face, but that's a whole other subject!) The point I was trying to make, was by comparing it to recent history. If we want to go back to Kent State, or the civil rights movement, or even the labor movement; then yes, you do have a valid point, and I concede that it's a bit hypocritical to lecture Iran about it, given our history.
The same is true here in the U.S. if you are planning on organizing a demonstration on public property such as a park, or street. You have to get permits to do it.
I got modded a troll yesterday (which I probably deserved for my dismissive tone) making a point similar to this.
The revolution will not be tweeted.
The "twitter revolution" that many people cheered about went no where, and the Iranian government used those tweets to put people in jail. If the Iranians are going to have a revolution, it isn't going to happen on social networking sites. They aren't even good to organize with, because the government can easily put out disinformation, and see where, and when, people are planning to demonstrate.
Yeah, if they're willing to gun down citizens in the street for protesting a bogus election, then I don't see how anyone could think they'd care at all about how they look for restricting bandwidth on the internet.
The American Revolution was caused by Taxation Without Representation. Look up the term sometime.
The first thing the founding fathers did was enlarge government, and institute their own tax system.
So many armchair warriors in this thread. It sure is easy to sit in a comfortable room, and type about how much simpler it would be if we could just shoot all of the pirates.
Well that's sort of what I meant by the "will to do it". The people that can green light a project like that, won't, because of political fear, and short-sightedness.
Where's the mod option for "isn't that adorable"
You'd be surprised. I know a few people that use Pandora constantly, even though they have their own large mp3 collections. A couple of others I know that uses streaming music do it because they're not computer literate enough to rip their cd's to mp3 and set everything up properly.
We only have politicians as good as our citizenry.
Garbage in, garbage out. The way our electoral process goes, the people that are truly qualified for the job are too smart to want it.
Ok if we build a time machine and go back 40 years you have a point. You got me. I don't deny that our hands aren't clean here, and we've done some pretty crappy things to our own citizens.
However, during 8 years of the inept Bush administration, even he never had anyone shot in the street for protesting. (His VP may have shot someone in the face, but that's a whole other subject!) The point I was trying to make, was by comparing it to recent history. If we want to go back to Kent State, or the civil rights movement, or even the labor movement; then yes, you do have a valid point, and I concede that it's a bit hypocritical to lecture Iran about it, given our history.
If you think the 2008 election was a fraud, then you are a moron. Period.
And which country was he a party member from? Oh I'm sorry, didn't mean to get in the way of partisan bullshit.
You should observe how AC handled it, and learn from it. Using facts to make your arguments, is much better than hyperbole.
I wasn't commenting on Iran at all, I was merely stating the fact that in the U.S. you need a permit to legally do a large demonstration.
In fact there wasn't an analogy in my statement at all, so are you just responding to the wrong person, or what?
The same is true here in the U.S. if you are planning on organizing a demonstration on public property such as a park, or street. You have to get permits to do it.
I'm not in any way defending the absurd "free speech zones", but I also don't think you can really say Iranians are free to protest.
At least here in the U.S. they don't gun you down in the street, as they did in Iran after the election.
I got modded a troll yesterday (which I probably deserved for my dismissive tone) making a point similar to this.
The revolution will not be tweeted.
The "twitter revolution" that many people cheered about went no where, and the Iranian government used those tweets to put people in jail. If the Iranians are going to have a revolution, it isn't going to happen on social networking sites. They aren't even good to organize with, because the government can easily put out disinformation, and see where, and when, people are planning to demonstrate.
Yeah, if they're willing to gun down citizens in the street for protesting a bogus election, then I don't see how anyone could think they'd care at all about how they look for restricting bandwidth on the internet.
LOL so true it hurts!
If Iranian ISPs are anything like the ones here in the U.S., then that means they don't have access to usenet, unless they pay a subscription for it.
The American Revolution was caused by Taxation Without Representation. Look up the term sometime. The first thing the founding fathers did was enlarge government, and institute their own tax system.
Liberals founded America, nitwit...
How's that cyber-revolution turning out?
Someone is about to get their ass kicked for saying that!
So many armchair warriors in this thread. It sure is easy to sit in a comfortable room, and type about how much simpler it would be if we could just shoot all of the pirates.
Science isn't about instant gratification.
Well that's sort of what I meant by the "will to do it". The people that can green light a project like that, won't, because of political fear, and short-sightedness.
It's a 9 month journey to mars, and 9 months back. I don't think we'll need warp drives for that. The only thing that stops us is the will to do it.
Says the AC with nothing better to do than be a boring unoriginal troll.
And you sound like a typical Anonymous Coward. You really showed him! I'm sure he's crying back to mama at this very minute!
How many times are you going to copy/paste this swill?