Seriously, I don't come to slashdot for humour. I come here to see what's happening in the geek world. Sometimes I even read the comments. That's enough humour for a site like this:-) Wit h all these obvious April Fools Jokes, it's like being bombarded with so much disinformation that you can't tell what's real and what's not, even though it should be obvious.
Sooo... If I just gather up a whole bunch of dirt, pack it all together, and fling it at another country, it'll be like launching a nuke at them? (sorry, couldn't resist)
I dunno, I always liked reading troll bait and flames, you can actually learn a lot from them:-)
There are so many holes in your argmuent it's not even funny... Well, actually it's very funny. I'll do away with the usual spelling comments, and the grammer comments.
f Uncle Linus is so hot about keeping competition with "upper class Unixes", why both with Linux at all? Hmm, (trying to figure sentence out) well... Maybe because the upper class unixes are closed source and expensive? Maybe Linus, and others, believe in open source software. Maybe they *enjoy* programming linux (is it ok to do something you like?) And rememgber, without competition, markets have a tendency to stagnate.
Couldn't we have multiple Windowses? Even WHINE (oops WINE) can run most Win32 apps nice (so I've been told, I'd rather be castrated than use Linux) so it would be very easy to create other Win32 interpreter platforms and bypass native code already? Other platforms which are not Linux, of course, but are rip offs of Windows.
Well, um (really trying to figure this sentence out) er, well, I doubt microsoft will release all it's undocumented api's, and I'm sure they would sue anyone who tried to make a windows variant. And are you trying to say that everything (except for linux) is a rip off of windows? I would have thought that windows was a rip off of a mac... And I assume that you've never used linux, since you'd rather be 'castrated' than use it. And I haven't found WINE all that usefull, it works mostly with the simpler stuff, I haven't gotten it to work with anything complex, like 3d programs and such.
If some pompous git rips off Unix to cobble up Linux, gives it to the public domain (where everyone is then responsible), then takes personal gratification when it sells... Umm, in which way did Linus 'Rip off' unix? As I understand it, unix is an open standard for an operating system, that's why we have so many different varients of unix, including linux. And how is linux selling? Unless you mean redhat charging 50 bucks or so, but that's for the book and for support, not really for the software. And Linus has a right to take satisfaction when it does well, he started it. If I started a project, I would be damned pleased with myself if people liked it.
We can easy clone and mimick Windows. No we can't. Microsoft has so many undocumented api calls that we will never be able to 100% mimic windows. Not that I would really want to. You try to make a windows clone. See how far you get.
Linus has crossed the line. Making competition is cool. But ising it to replace the current standard AND THEN deciding that we should keep competition with people who make the same exact thing... That sentence made no sense to me. Anyone? The more I read it the less sense it makes.
Linus is a nutter and should be sued alongside Intel and Microsoft. Umm, sued for *WHAT*? Please, tell me.
They try to say both NT and UNIX started around the 1970's... Then later in the same article, they give this sentence (for some reason I can't copy and paste, so I have to type it in) NT's roots extend back to 1977 and Digital Equipment's release of VMS 1.0. Many core members of the future NT design team left Digital in 1988 to join Microsoft, which released NT's first version, Windows NT 3.1, in 1993. Thus, NT and UNIX have been evolving since the mid-1970 *choke*
Can someone explain that to me? I know, if you take it literally, you can say that the VMS people used their knowledge to help them develop NT, but that's not the same. They weren't actively developing NT in the 70's... Whereas UNIX was. That statement is just plain wrong...
I'm not sure how technically accurate the rest of the article is, as I'm sure there's a few mistakes in it... There always are. But it does seem like the author read up on his subject, and is trying to make a valid, informed opinion. Then puts a slighly pro-NT spin on things.
"Because UNIX does not employ an application-accessible security, UNIX applies security to files." -- Umm, did you forget to mention that in UNIX... EVERYTHING IS A FILE... doh!
And they also babble on about UNIX's lack of ACL's and such... Am I wrong? I seem to recall that AIX and HP-UX have had them, and have had them for a while, and Linux developers have stated that it will have them eventually.
And the last sentence is classic... "However, trends in the marketplace over the past few years are making one thing perfectly clear: NT is here to stay, and it is becoming the choice of a new generation" (like pepsi?) "of IT professional" (note, the quote is like that, professional isn't plural, and it isn't punctuated.) Bah, if I ever choose something because it's the market trend, someone shoot me. We are all old enough, and I hope to say mature enough, to choose for ourselves without succumbing to peer pressure.
I think the problem with pine was something to the extent that you can't modify the source and redistribute it... I think it was done so that there was only the official 'pine' and not pine-clones (pinecones?) floating around... I think it's a rather silly liscense, don't you?
Well, if your so sick of using gtk, by all means, use something else. But, as it happens, some people, myself included, like using gtk to program. I don't feel like writing tons of code to make a trivial X app. And for the wrappers, I've never had to use any. I suggest you learn a little more object oriented programming, it would make it a lot more understandable.
All I can hope for is a port of linux or even IRIX to one of these machines... And if SGI were to do a port of linux, maybe we'd have full opengl? And broader hardware support of opengl? *gasp* *breath* (: I always told myself I'd use all linux if I could find the killer 3d app that I like... Looks like blender might be that app. It's blazingly fast without a 3d card on a p200, would love to see it on one of these bad boys with hardware accelleration... *drool* I don't think SGI is unsmart to go to the NT market, they are a corporation and if the market changes, they have to change with it. NT has seen a recent rise in the number of high-end 3d applications being ported to it, even if they run pretty poorly on said operating system. SGI and TDZ are the only two companies I know of offhand that are after the high-end 3d graphics NT (can I use high-end and NT in one sentence? Will the universe rip itself apart?) market, and I'd like to admit I'm curious how well the programs will run under NT on these...
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Seriously, I don't come to slashdot for humour. I come here to see what's happening in the geek world. Sometimes I even read the comments. That's enough humour for a site like this :-) Wit h all these obvious April Fools Jokes, it's like being bombarded with so much disinformation that you can't tell what's real and what's not, even though it should be obvious.
Sooo... If I just gather up a whole bunch of dirt, pack it all together, and fling it at another country, it'll be like launching a nuke at them? (sorry, couldn't resist)
I dunno, I always liked reading troll bait and flames, you can actually learn a lot from them :-)
There are so many holes in your argmuent it's not even funny... Well, actually it's very funny. I'll do away with the usual spelling comments, and the grammer comments.
f Uncle Linus is so hot about keeping competition with "upper class Unixes", why both with Linux at all?
Hmm, (trying to figure sentence out) well... Maybe because the upper class unixes are closed source and expensive? Maybe Linus, and others, believe in open source software. Maybe they *enjoy* programming linux (is it ok to do something you like?) And rememgber, without competition, markets have a tendency to stagnate.
Couldn't we have multiple Windowses? Even WHINE (oops WINE) can run most Win32 apps nice (so I've been told, I'd rather be castrated than use Linux) so it would be very easy to create other Win32 interpreter platforms and bypass native code already? Other platforms which are not Linux, of course, but are rip offs of Windows.
Well, um (really trying to figure this sentence out) er, well, I doubt microsoft will release all it's undocumented api's, and I'm sure they would sue anyone who tried to make a windows variant. And are you trying to say that everything (except for linux) is a rip off of windows? I would have thought that windows was a rip off of a mac... And I assume that you've never used linux, since you'd rather be 'castrated' than use it. And I haven't found WINE all that usefull, it works mostly with the simpler stuff, I haven't gotten it to work with anything complex, like 3d programs and such.
If some pompous git rips off Unix to cobble up Linux, gives it to the public domain (where everyone is then responsible), then takes personal gratification when it sells...
Umm, in which way did Linus 'Rip off' unix? As I understand it, unix is an open standard for an operating system, that's why we have so many different varients of unix, including linux. And how is linux selling? Unless you mean redhat charging 50 bucks or so, but that's for the book and for support, not really for the software. And Linus has a right to take satisfaction when it does well, he started it. If I started a project, I would be damned pleased with myself if people liked it.
We can easy clone and mimick Windows.
No we can't. Microsoft has so many undocumented api calls that we will never be able to 100% mimic windows. Not that I would really want to. You try to make a windows clone. See how far you get.
Linus has crossed the line. Making competition is cool. But ising it to replace the current standard AND THEN deciding that we should keep competition with people who make the same exact thing...
That sentence made no sense to me. Anyone? The more I read it the less sense it makes.
Linus is a nutter and should be sued alongside Intel and Microsoft.
Umm, sued for *WHAT*? Please, tell me.
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This stuff just cracks me up :-)
They try to say both NT and UNIX started around the 1970's... Then later in the same article, they give this sentence (for some reason I can't copy and paste, so I have to type it in)
NT's roots extend back to 1977 and Digital Equipment's release of VMS 1.0. Many core members of the future NT design team left Digital in 1988 to join Microsoft, which released NT's first version, Windows NT 3.1, in 1993. Thus, NT and UNIX have been evolving since the mid-1970 *choke*
Can someone explain that to me? I know, if you take it literally, you can say that the VMS people used their knowledge to help them develop NT, but that's not the same. They weren't actively developing NT in the 70's... Whereas UNIX was. That statement is just plain wrong...
I'm not sure how technically accurate the rest of the article is, as I'm sure there's a few mistakes in it... There always are. But it does seem like the author read up on his subject, and is trying to make a valid, informed opinion. Then puts a slighly pro-NT spin on things.
"Because UNIX does not employ an application-accessible security, UNIX applies security to files." -- Umm, did you forget to mention that in UNIX... EVERYTHING IS A FILE... doh!
And they also babble on about UNIX's lack of ACL's and such... Am I wrong? I seem to recall that AIX and HP-UX have had them, and have had them for a while, and Linux developers have stated that it will have them eventually.
And the last sentence is classic...
"However, trends in the marketplace over the past few years are making one thing perfectly clear: NT is here to stay, and it is becoming the choice of a new generation" (like pepsi?) "of IT professional" (note, the quote is like that, professional isn't plural, and it isn't punctuated.) Bah, if I ever choose something because it's the market trend, someone shoot me. We are all old enough, and I hope to say mature enough, to choose for ourselves without succumbing to peer pressure.
I think the problem with pine was something to the extent that you can't modify the source and redistribute it... I think it was done so that there was only the official 'pine' and not pine-clones (pinecones?) floating around... I think it's a rather silly liscense, don't you?
I luv debian, and debian luvs me.
Well, if your so sick of using gtk, by all means, use something else. But, as it happens, some people, myself included, like using gtk to program. I don't feel like writing tons of code to make a trivial X app. And for the wrappers, I've never had to use any. I suggest you learn a little more object oriented programming, it would make it a lot more understandable.
All I can hope for is a port of linux or even IRIX to one of these machines... And if SGI were to do a port of linux, maybe we'd have full opengl? And broader hardware support of opengl? *gasp* *breath* (:
I always told myself I'd use all linux if I could find the killer 3d app that I like... Looks like blender might be that app. It's blazingly fast without a 3d card on a p200, would love to see it on one of these bad boys with hardware accelleration... *drool*
I don't think SGI is unsmart to go to the NT market, they are a corporation and if the market changes, they have to change with it. NT has seen a recent rise in the number of high-end 3d applications being ported to it, even if they run pretty poorly on said operating system. SGI and TDZ are the only two companies I know of offhand that are after the high-end 3d graphics NT (can I use high-end and NT in one sentence? Will the universe rip itself apart?) market, and I'd like to admit I'm curious how well the programs will run under NT on these...