Agreed, but I think lots of SME's treat online backup as a magic bullet (it's the same type of thinking that says Symantec = no risk of virus infection).
If people can't be bothered to remember passwords, that's their problem. If people choose shitty passwords, that's their problem. If people get their shit snooped sniffed or keylogged, that's their problem.
Nope, it's everyone's problem. Banks lost allot of cash because of fraud (I mean the kind perpetrated by individuals to banks, not banks to everyone else) - it gets passed on to every customer.
I can't see how most of the rest of the post relates to the type of telephony scenario you begin talking about, but perhaps that explains the flamebait mod.
The parent was suggesting as little government intervention as possible. What do you think anarchy is?
You want to know what a lack of sensible regulation and control gets you - look at the current financial troubles your country has caused.
Your house needs putting in order. I'd have thought the most efficient way is sensible legislation curtailing undesirable actions from your companies. but if you have a better plan, good luck to you.
Corporations and individuals are not free to pursue their own interests in whatever method they want - we create laws specifically to prevent that.
Are you saying you want a type of anarchy where anyone can do whatever they want, and hope that acting in a way detrimental to society correlates with bankruptcy?
I agree with what you say about having to make sure the "balance is positive" - but I think copious legislation should be applied to ensure that you can only have achieve this by benefiting society.
Precisely. We live in a society where 'corporate selection' fosters public companies who mindlessly take the action which most increases value for their shareholders. If a law is written such that it can be gamed - it will be.
Lawmakers should take that into account and legislate around it; cause they sure ain't gonna change Corporate American Culture any time soon.
Why do people even compare RoR to PHP - I'm pretty sure it gives people the wrong impression:
PHP vs Ruby to compare languages CakePHP vs RoR compares different framework/language combinations Pylons vs Django compares different frameworks in the same language
If someone's really trying to decide between PHP and RoR on rails they need to ask themselves why they're looking at RoR instead of raw Ruby. If they're not sure then take a step back and do some more basic research.
You're right, of course. Not sure where I got that "minimal cost" line from: it's a reasonable assumption that using hardware expected to fail before 15 years could offer savings not possible 15 years ago.
That alone would be reason enough to discuss alternatives with the client.
Two minutes ago I was thinking the exact same thing. Then I realised if a small business owner tells you that 15 years ago he set up a system at minimal cost and is only now looking at changing because the hardware is noticeably ageing, you'd have a hard time explaining to him that it's going to be *harder* to set up a system with similar longevity nowadays.
I wouldn't know how to even approach the subject without sounding like I'm just trying to extract more cash out of him.
You're right; the first thing to do it understand why he wants a computer system to last 15 years. I suspect that when most business owners understand the cost savings to be had by building it differently they'll choose to go that route.
Some won't. That's their prerogative, but you'd be negligent in your responsibilities as an IT professional if you didn't explore other options with them.
As opposed to anyone in the police, or anyone with a court order, or anyone who somehow gains access (legitimately or otherwise) to those recordings?
Absolutely: try to get a handle on the mindset of these people. I suspect they'd be perfectly happy with the government cameras all over the street. Supportive even. But having pictures on their house is a different kettle of fish to the.
Because an uproar will solve everything, I'm sure.
I'm discussing what these people will do, not the most effective way to prevent people taking photos publicly.
One disgruntled guy can rouse an entire neighbourhood to run a car out of town? In what way does that remotely imply they're easy targets for burglars?
They don't care about being spied on, they find the idea that any pleb with an Internet connection can look at their house without their knowledge distasteful. If the government made the results of this (I must say ambiguously defined) spying public in the way Google plans too, expect an uproar.
Seriously though, being in the UK where prime time US shows are typically broadcast at least a couple days (and sometime a couple YEARS) after their American airdate, a MythTV box integrated with a bit torrent site really does provide a DVR that shows programmes before broadcast.
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Speaking as a resident of London, England - our equivalent of the Yellow cabs (Black cabs) are always impeccable.
Perhaps it's a cultural difference?
Agreed, but I think lots of SME's treat online backup as a magic bullet (it's the same type of thinking that says Symantec = no risk of virus infection).
You hear what happened to Carbonite recently?
If people can't be bothered to remember passwords, that's their problem.
If people choose shitty passwords, that's their problem.
If people get their shit snooped sniffed or keylogged, that's their problem.
Nope, it's everyone's problem. Banks lost allot of cash because of fraud (I mean the kind perpetrated by individuals to banks, not banks to everyone else) - it gets passed on to every customer.
I can't see how most of the rest of the post relates to the type of telephony scenario you begin talking about, but perhaps that explains the flamebait mod.
And the most useful thing I've read on /. in years!
Did some work in India once, thought it was alright.
It wouldn't work without knowing the specifics of the environment they compiled in.
Besides, that wouldn't be bait and switch - just outright lying.
The parent was suggesting as little government intervention as possible. What do you think anarchy is?
You want to know what a lack of sensible regulation and control gets you - look at the current financial troubles your country has caused.
Your house needs putting in order. I'd have thought the most efficient way is sensible legislation curtailing undesirable actions from your companies. but if you have a better plan, good luck to you.
Corporations and individuals are not free to pursue their own interests in whatever method they want - we create laws specifically to prevent that.
Are you saying you want a type of anarchy where anyone can do whatever they want, and hope that acting in a way detrimental to society correlates with bankruptcy?
I agree with what you say about having to make sure the "balance is positive" - but I think copious legislation should be applied to ensure that you can only have achieve this by benefiting society.
Precisely. We live in a society where 'corporate selection' fosters public companies who mindlessly take the action which most increases value for their shareholders. If a law is written such that it can be gamed - it will be.
Lawmakers should take that into account and legislate around it; cause they sure ain't gonna change Corporate American Culture any time soon.
You're approaching IT Nirvana when you understand that whatever the question, the solution is to add more Java.
At that point spam will be the least of you worries, fleshbag.
Why do people even compare RoR to PHP - I'm pretty sure it gives people the wrong impression:
PHP vs Ruby to compare languages
CakePHP vs RoR compares different framework/language combinations
Pylons vs Django compares different frameworks in the same language
If someone's really trying to decide between PHP and RoR on rails they need to ask themselves why they're looking at RoR instead of raw Ruby. If they're not sure then take a step back and do some more basic research.
Pedantic comment: You'll have to add '--force-yes' to the upgrade command.
Less pedantic comment: Even then you'll have to do a reboot if it applies a kernel update.
You're right, of course. Not sure where I got that "minimal cost" line from: it's a reasonable assumption that using hardware expected to fail before 15 years could offer savings not possible 15 years ago.
That alone would be reason enough to discuss alternatives with the client.
Two minutes ago I was thinking the exact same thing. Then I realised if a small business owner tells you that 15 years ago he set up a system at minimal cost and is only now looking at changing because the hardware is noticeably ageing, you'd have a hard time explaining to him that it's going to be *harder* to set up a system with similar longevity nowadays.
I wouldn't know how to even approach the subject without sounding like I'm just trying to extract more cash out of him.
You're right; the first thing to do it understand why he wants a computer system to last 15 years. I suspect that when most business owners understand the cost savings to be had by building it differently they'll choose to go that route.
Some won't. That's their prerogative, but you'd be negligent in your responsibilities as an IT professional if you didn't explore other options with them.
Story of my life. Sigh.
If I were you I'd stop poking about with things we don't understand. After all, it was curiosity that did and didn't kill the cat. ...
I'll get my coat.
Yeah, but you can't spend all day counting every single backwards Mom and Pa operation out there.
As opposed to anyone in the police, or anyone with a court order, or anyone who somehow gains access (legitimately or otherwise) to those recordings?
Absolutely: try to get a handle on the mindset of these people. I suspect they'd be perfectly happy with the government cameras all over the street. Supportive even. But having pictures on their house is a different kettle of fish to the.
Because an uproar will solve everything, I'm sure.
I'm discussing what these people will do, not the most effective way to prevent people taking photos publicly.
One disgruntled guy can rouse an entire neighbourhood to run a car out of town? In what way does that remotely imply they're easy targets for burglars?
They don't care about being spied on, they find the idea that any pleb with an Internet connection can look at their house without their knowledge distasteful. If the government made the results of this (I must say ambiguously defined) spying public in the way Google plans too, expect an uproar.
Yet here you are again.
Seriously though, being in the UK where prime time US shows are typically broadcast at least a couple days (and sometime a couple YEARS) after their American airdate, a MythTV box integrated with a bit torrent site really does provide a DVR that shows programmes before broadcast.
Watch out, here comes a cyber-attack from China
Don't worry, they'll be a duplicate tomorrow.