Science has proven there are hundreds of life seeds in a single batch of sperm. If you masturbate you didn't spill an innocent life, you committed genocide!!!:P
Generalism is a common human sin. But there is a large group of extremist conservative republicans that have zero science education that think all stem cell research is evil.
Note I say this as a Catholic that believes in Evolution and also feels annoyed every time atheists label every religious person in the planet as cavemen worshiping the flame. I know how it is to be in the wrong end of these generalizations.
I do think Google was a bit blackmailed there, but Im also thinking this would had not happened if Google had not approached Motorola first expressing interest to buy. The public threat was likely more of a "pay what i want or i wont sell and do this instead."
Also there were many other ways Google would had been able to hurt Motorola back, like adding new terms to Android license that would terminate their ability to sell Android phones. That would had put Motorola in a position where they would be forced to go Windows Phone 7 though, and that would had been something Google also would had disliked (for another big name besides Nokia to go WP7 only.)
So yea, at the end of the day Google was blackmailed into paying more than they wanted.
I agree but I actually have to admit I have something against Google, but not what many would think. This is a company that goes out complaining about IP warfare and has loads of money. What they do? They take their money and go out to buy IP Weapons...
WTF...
I know this alternative is not "moral", but how about instead using those billions to lobby senators and anyone with a sayso into abolishing and reforming stupid IP laws? You know the amount of legal change 12 billion in lobbying can buy?! It's not a nice thing off itself, but darnit, if Google is so "do no evil" and feel backed into doing "immoral choices", why dont they just go for the immoral choices that will have moral results instead of just joining the warfare and spilling more blood?
Anyways, serious question, have you actually looked at least to iOS gaming? Your statement of "feeble touch screen controls and $2 time wasters" makes it seem as you haven't and are just running off what you have heard from Sony's cellphone gaming bashing.
There are loads of games, very high quality games from publishers like Square Enix (Final Fantasy 3 for $15, Chaos Ring, an iOS exclusive so far, for around $12, between many others,) Capcom's Street Fighter IV for $6.99, Unreal Engine powered Infinity Blade and loads of quality games (arguably a bit unoriginal in some of their central themes but high quality none the less) ranging from $7-$10 from GameLoft (they also make games for the PSP and DS.) Thats also with many high quality names by lesser known companies like NyxQuest for 4.99.
Many of the 99c games are also extremely good, like the now legendary Angry Birds, Cut the Rope and the Zenonia RPG series, between many many others.
Cant speak much for Android, but iOS is loaded with great games on covering a huge spectrum of quality and prices.
I own a Nintendo DS Lite and a PSP. I barely use them due to how bulky they are, unless I am carrying my laptop bag with me, I leave the things at home, and at home I have consoles to play with. I own FF3 for the DS and ended up restarting the game in the iPod Touch because it looks insanely better there, plus the iPod Touch does not look like a tumor in my tight when I put it in my pocket.
I will must also add: I spent 2 years owning an iPhone and not bothering with gaming, thinking on-screen touch controls were stupid. After playing with them a bit I realized it was a baseless assumption. Touch controls have an unfounded bad reputation.
As for piracy, PSP and DS piracy is notoriously easy, not that a player should care about that (unless they want to pirate.)
Unless you have two logins and are also sonicmerlin, my post was to him saying "no one who cares about specs is going to do serious coming on a touchscreen".
And you can google many more interviews and statements of him backing up phone gaming as the platform that will win in the long run. Unless you are implying Carmack does not care about specs.
One big advantage that dedicated devices have is that publishers know the hardware, whereas they might be making a game that's played on a whole gamut of resolutions, screen sizes, system resources, etc. Unpredictable environments like that would raise their cost for testing, more code, and more customer support.
Thats something that keeps iOS in a competitive spot and why so many big name developers back up that platform. For the most part, its just one spec with very few differences from previous generations. Android phones can suffer the issues you mention, but are more likely to get built in joysticks in the near future.
The device is useless without at least 2 or 3 of those premium priced games that are so highly priced because they must be distributed to stores, where the store and every single distributor in between the studio and you wants a large cut of the sale.
Also, decent phones start at $50 today, ponder how things will be there by the end of 2012.
Given I will need the cellphone contract anyways, a better question is how much I save by using what I'd call a gaming device to make my phone calls.:)
Balance, my friend. An iPhone with better graphic power, 1 full gig of ram, perhaps, and 960x640 with just touch input will be considered by many (perhaps most, Epic Games, EA and Carmack included) to exceed the vita listed specs.
I personally have no issue with on-screen joysticks but understand that others do.
No one is predicting the end of the remotes because remotes cost between 5 and 10 dollars and their batteries last months. With portable gaming devices, there are no such advantages. Only advantage the japanese handheld has over a phone is removable media game ownership (some may not consider that an advantage but many gamers do, for now) and big japanese studio support.
Tactile controls, as I noted in another reply, may not be a long lasting advantage. Samsung may release a phone next month with analog sticks and offer it as the "definitive gaming android device" and the others may follow suit very very fast. Even if they dont, there are people out there making bluetooth attachments that add these input schemes. Wont be long before some one like MadCatz start offering bluetooth cases with very discrete but tactile inputs. I would expect some to show by the end of 2012.
Finally, I think i would rather give my 9 year old a phone that I only had to pay 200 tops for (subsidized) than a 400 gaming device. With the phone, he can contact me in emergencies and, if properly configured, I can track down his location. But thats me.
The overlap may not be complete, but this thing already ate into the japanese handheld market share (its not going to happen, it already happened.) It has been moving so incredibly fast (in less than 3 years) that I would not be shocked if the only advantage vanished by the end of 2012.
I would not expect an iPhone to have any, but Android manufacturers are crazy seeking gimmicks to sell their devices over the others. Would not be shocked if one or all (but Apple) adds sticks or gamepads to one of their Android phone lines.
Talking off, my wife owns a Samsung Gravity, horribly cheap so the graphical capabilities suck, but I was thinking that the side-slide out qwerty keyboard would be great for gaming. Even better if it was replaced by plain dpads and few face buttons.
There is one thing that keeps Android going and it's precisely the kind of crazy unexpected stuff manufacturers can do with them.
Also some people have been making some crazy attachments that emulate bluetooth keyboards that can be paired with Androids and iOS devices. They just started coming out but I would not be shocked if they slowly became more and more popular and more game developers supported them. The face of mobile gaming is changing very fast and a portable that wont get updated for 5 years may not live long.
Here is the thing, things are very depending on where you live. My brother earns 23k a year (before taxes.) He has his own house, 3 rooms, 2 bathrooms, central air, wood floors, nice planned community with home owner association, owns an Android Incredible cellphone and a pimped (mostly self improved) Toyota Car, has food, is not starving and occasionally goes to fast foods. He does have a bit of stress here and there, but he is nowhere near poverty. He would be homeless in another state, perhaps even in a different city within the same state.
Thats the problem with both: average (and even median) nation wide income reports or technology pricing. A new yorker may find buying an expensive mac computer to be a minor setback, but some one in a small Kentucky city, despite living in a comfortable middle class lifestyle, would see buying that "overpriced" device as something thats entirely out of the question if he wants to retain his lifestyle. It's also, IMO, a problem with federal taxing, applying brackets equally nation wide. There are some cities that deserve customized tax brackets.
I dont dispute that there IS poverty in the states, I have seen it first hand since my childhood, but its hard to judge what is poverty based of a nation-side median. At the same time, assuming anyone that is over the median is rich and stress free is also inaccurate for the same reason. Try to live with only 50k Baltimore or San Diego.
Anyways, think we went way far out of the topic here.
No need to get aggressive, it was not meant to be taken literally. You know, a bit of hyperbole.
But also got to say, unless you doing the same, you are going for a bigger insult there. Just because you see 99 dollars as "disposable" does not mean you are a "spoiled fat cat". Budget is very relative to your living situation, cost of living in your area, among many other things. There is no such a thing as "normal people" when you are talking about economical status. The middle class in the US has a huge range, even without being close to poverty.
When you can afford going to the movie with a partner twice a month and waste 20 bucks per showing, 99 dollars is "disposable" (in the context of getting something that will last you and potentially entertain you 6 months before it goes off to eBay or the garbage bin.)
Also, even with the example I note above, its not like cartoons where that goes on every day. You can choose to extremes that example as a weekly thing if you want, or you can just imagine cases where it happens once a year without and still not forcing you into foreclosing your home. I left it ambiguous intentionally.
I say all this as some one that grew up thinking anyone that was able to afford eating in Burger King was a snobbish rich kid, and saved my 2 dollars weekly "allowance" and starve so I would be able to rent games for the used NES I was given after the SNES was in the market instead and have something to do during the weekends. I think I seen enough of the spectrum.
When we are talking about people that would had ever considered spending 500 on a tablet device, I would just assume we are talking about people in a group where 100 is not that much to begin with.
I do apologize if the comment still offended you personally, though. That was not my intention.
I do agree, but then again some other people do consider 99 dollars to be disposable money. Ask anyone that has been married. Not to be chauvinist but my wife will go through 3 of these in one visit to the shoe store, in stuff she may wear 3 or 5 times tops.
So under such a light, yea, it may be seen disposable, and even maybe as a "preview" for what owning an iPad may be like. Like it enough? Then hold on with it until the iPad 3 comes out and then try to get 30 bucks from the TouchPad out of eBay.
There are many many reasons to not consider this purchase. In fact, I find very few reasons to buy it, and mind you: I really wanted this thing to succeed. I was looking to buy a second generation device and was praying it became true competition for the iPad.
Reasons to buy it go down to:
A) Get a disposable tablet as you would buy a disposable newspaper. B) Own a piece of history, of one of the few decent non Google, Apple or Microsoft OS tablets to ever attempt step up to the challenge and join the race.
There is really nothing complex about the feature usage, the most complex step is remembering to scroll to the bottom of the search suggestion box. Everything else is very very visual (you can see in the article screenshots of how it works.)
Its rather easy to go to the app store and download any of the other free third party browsers. I really dont know what's so hard about downloading a free app and giving it a test run. But if you find that hard then I give you a name: Mercury. Download the free version. This browser does all you want from Safari, plus adds tabs (safari will get those in iOS 5) and has a drop down to change the search provider. First option in that list is "Search this page." If you consider it too complex by this point, I have no clue how you get about these forums.
I don't really understand your anger, nor your position. The feature you talk about has been there since November 2010.
The iPad had an upgrade in less than 12 months after you bought it, but every other hardware maker releases better hardware within a month. Unless the list of "hardware pieces" you own only include Stereos, TVs and video game consoles, all of them were superseeded within a month, if not a week or even the next day. Only difference is you likely didn't care (OR you do only own stereos, TVs and video game consoles and never owned a computer, laptop or cellphone)
Am also not sure how you get about without that... a LOT of developers seem to love the 4.2 API so much they require it.
This hidden anger for something you claim to love so much you type forum posts from makes me think you likely do have either some hidden passion for that device and are grumpy that you have a first gen and not a second one, or you just a troll that does not even have one. I would normally not take the troll assumption fast, but you are complaining about the lack of a feature that has been there since November, 2010!!!
Oh and for iOS5, I have seen it running in an iPad 1st gen and runs smoothly, and that was a very early beta build.
The iPad has this... You can find apps from the home screen (swipe right) and search web pages by going to the browsers search box. You will see suggestions for Google search followed by "found on this page". If you pick from that list, I think a smal bar shows up with arrows to jumb from one instance of the result to the next and a new box for you to refine the in-page search.
Some third party browsers also offer a dedicated in-page search box.
Other apps, it's up to the developer to implement that stuff.
Hmmm... had not thought of that. So far I been thinking this deal will blow up in Google's face, BUT they may be able to get something out of their cablebox business.
Then again, cable companies can switch providers in a flash if they are not in agreement with any Google policy, they have proven time and time again they are bigger control freaks than Apple.
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I can't live with this guilt anymore.... I must end my life... I'll commit suicide by watching Fox News until my brain gets flooded with clots.
Science has proven there are hundreds of life seeds in a single batch of sperm. If you masturbate you didn't spill an innocent life, you committed genocide!!! :P
Generalism is a common human sin. But there is a large group of extremist conservative republicans that have zero science education that think all stem cell research is evil.
Note I say this as a Catholic that believes in Evolution and also feels annoyed every time atheists label every religious person in the planet as cavemen worshiping the flame. I know how it is to be in the wrong end of these generalizations.
I do think Google was a bit blackmailed there, but Im also thinking this would had not happened if Google had not approached Motorola first expressing interest to buy. The public threat was likely more of a "pay what i want or i wont sell and do this instead."
Also there were many other ways Google would had been able to hurt Motorola back, like adding new terms to Android license that would terminate their ability to sell Android phones. That would had put Motorola in a position where they would be forced to go Windows Phone 7 though, and that would had been something Google also would had disliked (for another big name besides Nokia to go WP7 only.)
So yea, at the end of the day Google was blackmailed into paying more than they wanted.
I agree but I actually have to admit I have something against Google, but not what many would think. This is a company that goes out complaining about IP warfare and has loads of money. What they do? They take their money and go out to buy IP Weapons...
WTF...
I know this alternative is not "moral", but how about instead using those billions to lobby senators and anyone with a sayso into abolishing and reforming stupid IP laws? You know the amount of legal change 12 billion in lobbying can buy?! It's not a nice thing off itself, but darnit, if Google is so "do no evil" and feel backed into doing "immoral choices", why dont they just go for the immoral choices that will have moral results instead of just joining the warfare and spilling more blood?
Carmack is not a game player? Really? wow.
Anyways, serious question, have you actually looked at least to iOS gaming? Your statement of "feeble touch screen controls and $2 time wasters" makes it seem as you haven't and are just running off what you have heard from Sony's cellphone gaming bashing.
There are loads of games, very high quality games from publishers like Square Enix (Final Fantasy 3 for $15, Chaos Ring, an iOS exclusive so far, for around $12, between many others,) Capcom's Street Fighter IV for $6.99, Unreal Engine powered Infinity Blade and loads of quality games (arguably a bit unoriginal in some of their central themes but high quality none the less) ranging from $7-$10 from GameLoft (they also make games for the PSP and DS.) Thats also with many high quality names by lesser known companies like NyxQuest for 4.99.
Many of the 99c games are also extremely good, like the now legendary Angry Birds, Cut the Rope and the Zenonia RPG series, between many many others.
Cant speak much for Android, but iOS is loaded with great games on covering a huge spectrum of quality and prices.
I own a Nintendo DS Lite and a PSP. I barely use them due to how bulky they are, unless I am carrying my laptop bag with me, I leave the things at home, and at home I have consoles to play with. I own FF3 for the DS and ended up restarting the game in the iPod Touch because it looks insanely better there, plus the iPod Touch does not look like a tumor in my tight when I put it in my pocket.
I will must also add: I spent 2 years owning an iPhone and not bothering with gaming, thinking on-screen touch controls were stupid. After playing with them a bit I realized it was a baseless assumption. Touch controls have an unfounded bad reputation.
As for piracy, PSP and DS piracy is notoriously easy, not that a player should care about that (unless they want to pirate.)
Unless you have two logins and are also sonicmerlin, my post was to him saying "no one who cares about specs is going to do serious coming on a touchscreen".
Tell that to John Carmack
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/08/01/quake-founder-john-carmack-iphone-better-than-dedicated-gaming-systems/
http://www.bnet.com/blog/gadget-guy/john-carmacks-rage-why-the-iphone-game-is-a-success/1038
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/19/ids-carmack-talks-rage-hd-ipads-power-and-future-ios-games/
And you can google many more interviews and statements of him backing up phone gaming as the platform that will win in the long run. Unless you are implying Carmack does not care about specs.
One big advantage that dedicated devices have is that publishers know the hardware, whereas they might be making a game that's played on a whole gamut of resolutions, screen sizes, system resources, etc. Unpredictable environments like that would raise their cost for testing, more code, and more customer support.
Thats something that keeps iOS in a competitive spot and why so many big name developers back up that platform. For the most part, its just one spec with very few differences from previous generations. Android phones can suffer the issues you mention, but are more likely to get built in joysticks in the near future.
The device is useless without at least 2 or 3 of those premium priced games that are so highly priced because they must be distributed to stores, where the store and every single distributor in between the studio and you wants a large cut of the sale.
Also, decent phones start at $50 today, ponder how things will be there by the end of 2012.
I would reply to your comment, but I sort of already did when I replied to the other guy. You can read the reply there.
But I think its a no brainer that anyone that would buy the thing as "disposable" would need that to be within his or her budget to do so.
Given I will need the cellphone contract anyways, a better question is how much I save by using what I'd call a gaming device to make my phone calls. :)
Balance, my friend. An iPhone with better graphic power, 1 full gig of ram, perhaps, and 960x640 with just touch input will be considered by many (perhaps most, Epic Games, EA and Carmack included) to exceed the vita listed specs.
I personally have no issue with on-screen joysticks but understand that others do.
No one is predicting the end of the remotes because remotes cost between 5 and 10 dollars and their batteries last months. With portable gaming devices, there are no such advantages. Only advantage the japanese handheld has over a phone is removable media game ownership (some may not consider that an advantage but many gamers do, for now) and big japanese studio support.
Tactile controls, as I noted in another reply, may not be a long lasting advantage. Samsung may release a phone next month with analog sticks and offer it as the "definitive gaming android device" and the others may follow suit very very fast. Even if they dont, there are people out there making bluetooth attachments that add these input schemes. Wont be long before some one like MadCatz start offering bluetooth cases with very discrete but tactile inputs. I would expect some to show by the end of 2012.
Finally, I think i would rather give my 9 year old a phone that I only had to pay 200 tops for (subsidized) than a 400 gaming device. With the phone, he can contact me in emergencies and, if properly configured, I can track down his location. But thats me.
The overlap may not be complete, but this thing already ate into the japanese handheld market share (its not going to happen, it already happened.) It has been moving so incredibly fast (in less than 3 years) that I would not be shocked if the only advantage vanished by the end of 2012.
I would not expect an iPhone to have any, but Android manufacturers are crazy seeking gimmicks to sell their devices over the others. Would not be shocked if one or all (but Apple) adds sticks or gamepads to one of their Android phone lines.
Talking off, my wife owns a Samsung Gravity, horribly cheap so the graphical capabilities suck, but I was thinking that the side-slide out qwerty keyboard would be great for gaming. Even better if it was replaced by plain dpads and few face buttons.
There is one thing that keeps Android going and it's precisely the kind of crazy unexpected stuff manufacturers can do with them.
Also some people have been making some crazy attachments that emulate bluetooth keyboards that can be paired with Androids and iOS devices. They just started coming out but I would not be shocked if they slowly became more and more popular and more game developers supported them. The face of mobile gaming is changing very fast and a portable that wont get updated for 5 years may not live long.
Apple, HTC, Samsung and Googlerola have announced every single phone they sell in 2012 year either matches or exceed every single one of these specs.
Here is the thing, things are very depending on where you live. My brother earns 23k a year (before taxes.) He has his own house, 3 rooms, 2 bathrooms, central air, wood floors, nice planned community with home owner association, owns an Android Incredible cellphone and a pimped (mostly self improved) Toyota Car, has food, is not starving and occasionally goes to fast foods. He does have a bit of stress here and there, but he is nowhere near poverty. He would be homeless in another state, perhaps even in a different city within the same state.
Thats the problem with both: average (and even median) nation wide income reports or technology pricing. A new yorker may find buying an expensive mac computer to be a minor setback, but some one in a small Kentucky city, despite living in a comfortable middle class lifestyle, would see buying that "overpriced" device as something thats entirely out of the question if he wants to retain his lifestyle. It's also, IMO, a problem with federal taxing, applying brackets equally nation wide. There are some cities that deserve customized tax brackets.
I dont dispute that there IS poverty in the states, I have seen it first hand since my childhood, but its hard to judge what is poverty based of a nation-side median. At the same time, assuming anyone that is over the median is rich and stress free is also inaccurate for the same reason. Try to live with only 50k Baltimore or San Diego.
Anyways, think we went way far out of the topic here.
No need to get aggressive, it was not meant to be taken literally. You know, a bit of hyperbole.
But also got to say, unless you doing the same, you are going for a bigger insult there. Just because you see 99 dollars as "disposable" does not mean you are a "spoiled fat cat". Budget is very relative to your living situation, cost of living in your area, among many other things. There is no such a thing as "normal people" when you are talking about economical status. The middle class in the US has a huge range, even without being close to poverty.
When you can afford going to the movie with a partner twice a month and waste 20 bucks per showing, 99 dollars is "disposable" (in the context of getting something that will last you and potentially entertain you 6 months before it goes off to eBay or the garbage bin.)
Also, even with the example I note above, its not like cartoons where that goes on every day. You can choose to extremes that example as a weekly thing if you want, or you can just imagine cases where it happens once a year without and still not forcing you into foreclosing your home. I left it ambiguous intentionally.
I say all this as some one that grew up thinking anyone that was able to afford eating in Burger King was a snobbish rich kid, and saved my 2 dollars weekly "allowance" and starve so I would be able to rent games for the used NES I was given after the SNES was in the market instead and have something to do during the weekends. I think I seen enough of the spectrum.
When we are talking about people that would had ever considered spending 500 on a tablet device, I would just assume we are talking about people in a group where 100 is not that much to begin with.
I do apologize if the comment still offended you personally, though. That was not my intention.
I do agree, but then again some other people do consider 99 dollars to be disposable money. Ask anyone that has been married. Not to be chauvinist but my wife will go through 3 of these in one visit to the shoe store, in stuff she may wear 3 or 5 times tops.
So under such a light, yea, it may be seen disposable, and even maybe as a "preview" for what owning an iPad may be like. Like it enough? Then hold on with it until the iPad 3 comes out and then try to get 30 bucks from the TouchPad out of eBay.
There are many many reasons to not consider this purchase. In fact, I find very few reasons to buy it, and mind you: I really wanted this thing to succeed. I was looking to buy a second generation device and was praying it became true competition for the iPad.
Reasons to buy it go down to:
A) Get a disposable tablet as you would buy a disposable newspaper.
B) Own a piece of history, of one of the few decent non Google, Apple or Microsoft OS tablets to ever attempt step up to the challenge and join the race.
This feature is in iOS 4.2. Read more here:
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/09/ios-4-2-will-finally-allow-you-to-search-for-text-on-a-web-page-in-mobile-safari.html
There is really nothing complex about the feature usage, the most complex step is remembering to scroll to the bottom of the search suggestion box. Everything else is very very visual (you can see in the article screenshots of how it works.)
Its rather easy to go to the app store and download any of the other free third party browsers. I really dont know what's so hard about downloading a free app and giving it a test run. But if you find that hard then I give you a name: Mercury. Download the free version. This browser does all you want from Safari, plus adds tabs (safari will get those in iOS 5) and has a drop down to change the search provider. First option in that list is "Search this page." If you consider it too complex by this point, I have no clue how you get about these forums.
I don't really understand your anger, nor your position. The feature you talk about has been there since November 2010.
The iPad had an upgrade in less than 12 months after you bought it, but every other hardware maker releases better hardware within a month. Unless the list of "hardware pieces" you own only include Stereos, TVs and video game consoles, all of them were superseeded within a month, if not a week or even the next day. Only difference is you likely didn't care (OR you do only own stereos, TVs and video game consoles and never owned a computer, laptop or cellphone)
Am also not sure how you get about without that... a LOT of developers seem to love the 4.2 API so much they require it.
This hidden anger for something you claim to love so much you type forum posts from makes me think you likely do have either some hidden passion for that device and are grumpy that you have a first gen and not a second one, or you just a troll that does not even have one. I would normally not take the troll assumption fast, but you are complaining about the lack of a feature that has been there since November, 2010!!!
Oh and for iOS5, I have seen it running in an iPad 1st gen and runs smoothly, and that was a very early beta build.
Microsoft victorious entrance into the new age of tablets will be MS Office for iOS :)
How dare they hide a search in the search box!!!
What next, hide web app bookmarks between native apps in the home screen?
The iPad has this... You can find apps from the home screen (swipe right) and search web pages by going to the browsers search box. You will see suggestions for Google search followed by "found on this page". If you pick from that list, I think a smal bar shows up with arrows to jumb from one instance of the result to the next and a new box for you to refine the in-page search.
Some third party browsers also offer a dedicated in-page search box.
Other apps, it's up to the developer to implement that stuff.
Hmmm... had not thought of that. So far I been thinking this deal will blow up in Google's face, BUT they may be able to get something out of their cablebox business.
Then again, cable companies can switch providers in a flash if they are not in agreement with any Google policy, they have proven time and time again they are bigger control freaks than Apple.