Better yet, make it opt-in only for the French. Their sites don't get indexed, unless they agree to non-chargeable access for indexing. Perhaps this can be accomplished by extending Sitemaps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitemaps)
My android phone (HTC desire/2.2) scores 2427. If this benchmark is to be believed, my phone is better than your quadcore machine for browsing JS heavy sites if you're using IE8.
I work at a small OEM, and what you say resonates strongly...well, except for the part where OEM=crap...we use Intel desktopboards exclusively and they're rock solid almost to a fault (we probably get replacement cycles of 4-5 years, with the old boxes being repurposed with linux/bsd). That said, NBD is std on most business class PCs and is included in the price anyway. What you get with that is a body with fingers that comes to the cust's location and swaps hardware until it works. If you build it yourself, that's you and a few hired help (you do have a few on standby all the time right?)...so what does that cost?
There is a reason not to re-invent the wheel. If quality is your main concern, you should not be even looking at Dell/Acer/Lenovo etc for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Find a vendor that can do the quality you need, at a cost far lower than yours. And take the flak if they can't deliver on it.
You're preaching to the choir pal. In fact, I wonder how the hell the OP got a quote for usd1k/PC, unless it's a full set with office & win7 pro. OEM margins for bog standard PCs are *not* 40% (to use your costing of usd580/pc), Fellas like Dell will be happy to make 5% on a volume deal, and they'd have to factor in NBD or 8x5x4 support. Plus they need to keep spares for the duration of the warranty. Either someone's math is off, or there's some additional pieces to the puzzle.
Mod parent up. Any VL purchase for OS upgrade, requires a base OS be present (any Home ver at minimum, except for EDU sector, where Starter Ed. is permissible). So, why bother with VL you ask, when you might as well purchase the OS in OEM licensing. Well, you do get benefits with software assurance, and better pricing for VL+base (as opposed to just going with higher specd base OS). Plus, you don't need to worry about missing CDs.
It's obvious you're not understanding a word I've said, and you persist in clinging to your belief that NX doesn't work in a pure 64-bit OS (since PAE doesn't work in the same) all evidence to the contrary. I suggest you read up yourself on what a 64-bit kernel means.
The latter is not what I disagreed with. Yes, there is no room for the NX bit in the plain 32bit page tables, however that does *not* mean that PAE is an absolute requirement for NX support.
What does PAE have to do with NX? PAE was just a kludge back before x86-64/amd64 came on the scene. Yes, PAE did support NX later on, but requiring PAE was never a compulsory feature for NX support...NX worked fine on regular 32bit or 64bit kernels on supported hardware/kernels.
You do NOT want to use 4GB ram for an i7. It has to be in multiples of 3GB since the i7 uses a triple channel ddr3. Some mobos have 4 slots (eg Intel DX58SO), however populating that last slot will sacrifice triple channel with single channel performance.
I just don't understand why there aren't more consumer boards with a lot more sockets, using FB-DIMM or registered DDR. You have to go to server boards for that ($$$).
It's not just the matter of having the sockets, the chipset must also support the additional RAM. Most consumer chipsets either support 4GB or 8GB only.
Some like the atom support 2GB only iirc.
Even some serverboards max out at 8GB (esp those supporting the Xeon 3000 processor)
There's a saying..if you owe the bank ten thousand dollars and can't pay up, it's your problem. On the other hand, if you owe the bank a billion dollars and can't pay up, it's the bank's problem.
Moral: If you're going to screw up, make sure you screw up REALLY big, affecting as many people as possible...and the govt will make everything fine for you.
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Better yet, make it opt-in only for the French. Their sites don't get indexed, unless they agree to non-chargeable access for indexing. Perhaps this can be accomplished by extending Sitemaps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitemaps)
Camels were quite good at flying in the rain too, and it was much better at dog fighting.
http://www.whatsapp.com/. Does text, pix, maps, video over a data connection, and folks just need to know your mobile number.
My android phone (HTC desire/2.2) scores 2427. If this benchmark is to be believed, my phone is better than your quadcore machine for browsing JS heavy sites if you're using IE8.
On a HTC Desire/Android 2.2 froyo, it scores 2427 (144/1/1627).
Browser is detected as Safari (as expected, since the default is webkit based).
I work at a small OEM, and what you say resonates strongly...well, except for the part where OEM=crap...we use Intel desktopboards exclusively and they're rock solid almost to a fault (we probably get replacement cycles of 4-5 years, with the old boxes being repurposed with linux/bsd). That said, NBD is std on most business class PCs and is included in the price anyway. What you get with that is a body with fingers that comes to the cust's location and swaps hardware until it works. If you build it yourself, that's you and a few hired help (you do have a few on standby all the time right?)...so what does that cost?
There is a reason not to re-invent the wheel. If quality is your main concern, you should not be even looking at Dell/Acer/Lenovo etc for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Find a vendor that can do the quality you need, at a cost far lower than yours. And take the flak if they can't deliver on it.
You're preaching to the choir pal. In fact, I wonder how the hell the OP got a quote for usd1k/PC, unless it's a full set with office & win7 pro. OEM margins for bog standard PCs are *not* 40% (to use your costing of usd580/pc), Fellas like Dell will be happy to make 5% on a volume deal, and they'd have to factor in NBD or 8x5x4 support. Plus they need to keep spares for the duration of the warranty. Either someone's math is off, or there's some additional pieces to the puzzle.
Mod parent up. Any VL purchase for OS upgrade, requires a base OS be present (any Home ver at minimum, except for EDU sector, where Starter Ed. is permissible). So, why bother with VL you ask, when you might as well purchase the OS in OEM licensing. Well, you do get benefits with software assurance, and better pricing for VL+base (as opposed to just going with higher specd base OS). Plus, you don't need to worry about missing CDs.
It's obvious you're not understanding a word I've said, and you persist in clinging to your belief that NX doesn't work in a pure 64-bit OS (since PAE doesn't work in the same) all evidence to the contrary. I suggest you read up yourself on what a 64-bit kernel means.
The latter is not what I disagreed with. Yes, there is no room for the NX bit in the plain 32bit page tables, however that does *not* mean that PAE is an absolute requirement for NX support.
http://linuxgazette.net/107/pramode.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_bit
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/NX_bit
What does PAE have to do with NX? PAE was just a kludge back before x86-64/amd64 came on the scene. Yes, PAE did support NX later on, but requiring PAE was never a compulsory feature for NX support...NX worked fine on regular 32bit or 64bit kernels on supported hardware/kernels.
Save your dosh. The xeon will have nehalem in Q1.
You do NOT want to use 4GB ram for an i7. It has to be in multiples of 3GB since the i7 uses a triple channel ddr3. Some mobos have 4 slots (eg Intel DX58SO), however populating that last slot will sacrifice triple channel with single channel performance.
I just don't understand why there aren't more consumer boards with a lot more sockets, using FB-DIMM or registered DDR. You have to go to server boards for that ($$$).
It's not just the matter of having the sockets, the chipset must also support the additional RAM. Most consumer chipsets either support 4GB or 8GB only. Some like the atom support 2GB only iirc. Even some serverboards max out at 8GB (esp those supporting the Xeon 3000 processor)
There's a saying..if you owe the bank ten thousand dollars and can't pay up, it's your problem. On the other hand, if you owe the bank a billion dollars and can't pay up, it's the bank's problem.
Moral: If you're going to screw up, make sure you screw up REALLY big, affecting as many people as possible...and the govt will make everything fine for you.
Every time I read about Wine, I shrug and/or roll my eyes
with this attitude, it's like casting perls before sWine
(apologies for the setup and bad punning)
We at the Mafia prefer to call it "Making an offer you can't refuse"