Why do you associate TV with couches, but computers with desks?
Because that's the way things have always been.
But I've got a laptop and an S-video cable, so I'm really not getting it.
(It even came with a little remote)
Well, we did have Robert Hawkins who went to a mall in Omaha. He's a rat-bastard for taking others out on his way, but society failed this kid. Not a gamer though.
I believe the whole "indirect jobs" thing is why people are calling this a broken window fallacy. Building infrastructure is good, it get's us something. It embiggins us. Breaking a window just so you can pay someone to repair it gets us nothing. But the jury is out about whether or not giving money to people to go spend as they see fit actually gets us anything. It sure boosts retail sales. But it sounds like trickle-down theory to me. Paying someone to wax your yacht does nothing. Giving money to a crack-fiend does nothing. Giving money to a middle-class 9-to-5er to buy a huge new TV.... probably does nothing, other get get him a TV.
Punish the kids who work around it? Dude, I've give them a golf clap, extra credit, and a job as a pen tester.
Whoa whoa, you realize that the kids are tempted, can rationalize that they have the right, and that no matter the restrictions the school applies there WILL be ways around them... and somehow all that means we should punish the smart kid extra hard?
That stick, it's not working for you. Here, try this carrot.
I find most people have an exagerated expectation of reality.
especially when I let loose two shots to be sure
Just beacuse you quicky click the mouse twice doesn't mean two bullets go to the same place. I would say a number of factors would cause your original aim to alter slightly. For example; the wind, your pulse, or a small contained explosion a few inches from your face.
The general public needs to get over its delusion that scientists are some sort of priesthood that exists to tell them The One True Way and save them the trouble of having to understand issues well enough to make their own informed decisions about what is best.
Mankind needs to get over its delusion that some sort of priesthood exists to tell them the One True Way.
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Mankind needs to get over its delusion that there is some sort of One True Way.
Well then, my friend, you haven't checked out Dwarf Fortress, have you? Simply beutiful landscapes all procedurally generated. Mountains, rivers, waterfalls, brooks, forests, lakes. Recently he's even included cities (well ok, villiges or small towns). all interconnected with roadways and bridges. Each town is populated with individuals that go about their daily lives and have families and if not personalities, then a variety of stats.
The US created the mess, now they got to clean it up. Do you really want Iraq to be the next Korea or Vietnam, where decades later the mess is still making the US look bad?
South Korea looks good to me. Defending them was the point of the Korean war, right? Actually Vietnam is looking good too, tourism is picking up. Apparently they have beaches! Now, the bloodshed that followed our pullout of Vietnam was a shame, it really was, but was it our fault? Did we get blamed for that? Certainly some people blame us, but on a world scale, are we the bad guys for listening to those pro-genocide hippies and ending a war? Are Vietnam children running up to the mall of America with bombs stapped to them? No. No they aren't.
I completely agree with you about putting the initial fuckup to rest. I'd be willing to lay the issue to rest when George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz, are arrested, tried, convicted, and serve their sentance for their crimes and asshatery.
Why do you think this would spill over just because we aren't there? Do you think it's not "spilling over" simply because we are there? And just what exactly is "spilling over"? Are you worried about their neighbor Syria being destabilized due to religious upheaval? Is the the creation of militant extremists willing to fly planes into our buildings? Because I'm pretty sure we're not exactly making friends over there right now.
No, vague terms aside, this is what I'm worried about in Iraq:
1. That we're giving the people a reason to hate us. A reason to view us as a horrible empire that's destroying the world. That would create the sort of fanatics that we saw on 9/11.
2. I am also worried that it will turn (more) into a genocidal wasteland of death, and, more importantly, that the people there and elsewhere will blame us for it.
3. I'm also worried that the cost of this war will bankrupt us.
All three of those fears are currently being played out. All three of them work against each other. Apply more force and they hate the eyeless invaders of the empire. Ease off and chaos sweeps the nation. Treat them nice and we break the bank.
In the meantime, the rest of the world really needs to start shaping up. Stop relying on the US. Europe is richer then the US but doesn't have any real military power. Don't blame the US for being a poor police men if you just sit at home not doing anything.
hahahahaha, That's right, so let's bomb the fuck out of them to make it happen. Wow, telling everyone else to "shape up", that's a good one. They should pay my taxes while they're at it. And just who the hell said we were the fucking world police? If it's anyone's job, that would be the UN. AS PART OF THE UN, we can help police the world, if it's allright with everyone else.
No, the war has happenend, deal with the why and how in the courts, but you can't ignore it and say you are going to withdraw by date X because that doesn't solve anything and give your enemy a clear goal, if only we hold out till date X we have won.
Hey now, setting time tables sets a clear goal for ourselves! For our own troops, for our allies, for the taxpayer. It does set a goal for dem dar tewwowists: We've got so many months to kill them before we lose! Remember that one of Bin Laden's goals was to draw US troops into the mountains of Afghanistan so he could relive his glory days as a mujahedeen freedom fighter that fought off the Russian empire. The concept that we're fighting there so we don't have to fight them here is ridiculous.
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Why do you associate TV with couches, but computers with desks? Because that's the way things have always been. But I've got a laptop and an S-video cable, so I'm really not getting it. (It even came with a little remote)
Well, we did have Robert Hawkins who went to a mall in Omaha. He's a rat-bastard for taking others out on his way, but society failed this kid. Not a gamer though.
I believe the whole "indirect jobs" thing is why people are calling this a broken window fallacy. Building infrastructure is good, it get's us something. It embiggins us. Breaking a window just so you can pay someone to repair it gets us nothing. But the jury is out about whether or not giving money to people to go spend as they see fit actually gets us anything. It sure boosts retail sales. But it sounds like trickle-down theory to me. Paying someone to wax your yacht does nothing. Giving money to a crack-fiend does nothing. Giving money to a middle-class 9-to-5er to buy a huge new TV.... probably does nothing, other get get him a TV.
Punish the kids who work around it? Dude, I've give them a golf clap, extra credit, and a job as a pen tester.
Whoa whoa, you realize that the kids are tempted, can rationalize that they have the right, and that no matter the restrictions the school applies there WILL be ways around them... and somehow all that means we should punish the smart kid extra hard?
That stick, it's not working for you. Here, try this carrot.
especially when I let loose two shots to be sure
Just beacuse you quicky click the mouse twice doesn't mean two bullets go to the same place. I would say a number of factors would cause your original aim to alter slightly. For example; the wind, your pulse, or a small contained explosion a few inches from your face.
The general public needs to get over its delusion that scientists are some sort of priesthood that exists to tell them The One True Way and save them the trouble of having to understand issues well enough to make their own informed decisions about what is best.
Mankind needs to get over its delusion that some sort of priesthood exists to tell them the One True Way.
.
Mankind needs to get over its delusion that there is some sort of One True Way.
Well then, my friend, you haven't checked out Dwarf Fortress, have you? Simply beutiful landscapes all procedurally generated. Mountains, rivers, waterfalls, brooks, forests, lakes. Recently he's even included cities (well ok, villiges or small towns). all interconnected with roadways and bridges. Each town is populated with individuals that go about their daily lives and have families and if not personalities, then a variety of stats.
And his graphics engine is spot on.
Huh? Well maybe not for professors mired in academia, but out here in the real world, we like to call that verifiable experience.
South Korea looks good to me. Defending them was the point of the Korean war, right? Actually Vietnam is looking good too, tourism is picking up. Apparently they have beaches! Now, the bloodshed that followed our pullout of Vietnam was a shame, it really was, but was it our fault? Did we get blamed for that? Certainly some people blame us, but on a world scale, are we the bad guys for listening to those pro-genocide hippies and ending a war? Are Vietnam children running up to the mall of America with bombs stapped to them? No. No they aren't.
I completely agree with you about putting the initial fuckup to rest. I'd be willing to lay the issue to rest when George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz, are arrested, tried, convicted, and serve their sentance for their crimes and asshatery.
Why do you think this would spill over just because we aren't there? Do you think it's not "spilling over" simply because we are there? And just what exactly is "spilling over"? Are you worried about their neighbor Syria being destabilized due to religious upheaval? Is the the creation of militant extremists willing to fly planes into our buildings? Because I'm pretty sure we're not exactly making friends over there right now.
No, vague terms aside, this is what I'm worried about in Iraq: 1. That we're giving the people a reason to hate us. A reason to view us as a horrible empire that's destroying the world. That would create the sort of fanatics that we saw on 9/11. 2. I am also worried that it will turn (more) into a genocidal wasteland of death, and, more importantly, that the people there and elsewhere will blame us for it. 3. I'm also worried that the cost of this war will bankrupt us. All three of those fears are currently being played out. All three of them work against each other. Apply more force and they hate the eyeless invaders of the empire. Ease off and chaos sweeps the nation. Treat them nice and we break the bank.
hahahahaha, That's right, so let's bomb the fuck out of them to make it happen. Wow, telling everyone else to "shape up", that's a good one. They should pay my taxes while they're at it. And just who the hell said we were the fucking world police? If it's anyone's job, that would be the UN. AS PART OF THE UN, we can help police the world, if it's allright with everyone else.
Hey now, setting time tables sets a clear goal for ourselves! For our own troops, for our allies, for the taxpayer. It does set a goal for dem dar tewwowists: We've got so many months to kill them before we lose! Remember that one of Bin Laden's goals was to draw US troops into the mountains of Afghanistan so he could relive his glory days as a mujahedeen freedom fighter that fought off the Russian empire. The concept that we're fighting there so we don't have to fight them here is ridiculous.