I'm not exactly a boozehound, but I drink now and then. That said, I've mixed booze with games exactly once*, and that was because the social aspect was more important then the game. Does anyone actually go drinking and participate in games where their mental facilities were put to the test? I've heard of chess-boxing, but chess as a drinking game? Nawwwwww.
*darts and pool are the exception, as it's something to do in a bar, and yeah, motor skills suffer.
**And fencing drunk doesn't count either, it's a sport. (btw, our armorer is an undefeated drunken master)
So put it outside. Sure this is a bit like a rural propane tank, but it serves essentially the same purpose.
But why exactly are you more afraid of a battery then a tank of gas? Gasoline is a great energy source for vehicles because the extractable energy is so dense. Throw in a match and there will be a fire. If that tank gets a leak, it will fill the room with explosive fumes.
I don't think it's that much more dangerous so much as you've become desensitized to the danger of gasoline, and have learned to mitigate the risks.
Why in, any environment, should the chicken be forced to reveal that recipe?
When he augments the ancient recipe with the GPL'd technique of poaching eggs.
Or when there's sufficient enough evidence that the recipe calls for chicken strips and the roost lords demand that they reveal the recipe to them in a cannibalism trial. (but that would be in "confidence", and it wouldn't be open source)
pft! All that's nothing compared to the innovative lads from the unregulated finance industry! They "invented" a "process" which turned turd loans into "shiny diamond" loans! Give them a break, they're generating wealth!
Yeah, that's great. Now source some stuff to back up the 2nd half of the statement:
then ensured all the health-care companies and insurers got their pre-socialism hush-money
cherry picking arguments like like saying Obama was perfectly truthful because of:
"We passed the recovery plan" - Barack Obama, Feb 24th in a speech to congress.
So I'd have to agree with moogled; vague political statement that has no sources. Cite something other then Socialist!? RAAAAGE! and I'll think it over, but until then it's just hot air.
Plus there's always the danger of some nutjob seeking a lead based solution to his political discontent....
What is it with conservatives alluding to the assassination of Obama and then trailing off? I've had extended family members do this repeatedly too. It's like they hope for it, but don't want to come out and actually say it.
You specifically, and people like you, need to calm down, take a breath, and then criticize. When you rant like this it only degrades your argument and the only people that will agree with you already share your sentiment. And your criticizm needs more meat. For example, rather then $1.1 trillion on a whim, you could explain what you're talking about. Or maybe provide a link.
Personally, I like the guy. He's not the second coming of Jesus, but he and his ideas aren't nearly as bad as some people portray. I could argue against you, but I just don't see the point if you're just going to blindly spew rage.
Don't get me wrong, I actually like the sun, but isn't it somewhat... suspicious?.. that these solar flares have started up.. right around the time when global warming is threatening to kill us all?
First off, that scenario was never implied or referenced by parent.
Secondly, the parent expressly pointed out that "You're the admin, you're responsible!" and that is how your peers and future employers will see it. So no, the idiot is not solely responsible for being handed a loaded gun.
I'm pretty sure that we have the right to simply quit working. Thankfully, the alternative isn't the case.
1. Assume that anything that doesn't benefit the corporation is theft.
2. The dirty little thieves don't have real jobs.
3. Flatout blatant thievery (under which bending the EULA falls) is a choice that places the blame solely on the dirty little jobless thief.
4. The prosecution of the dirty little jobless thieves is inevitable and only a matter of time.
6. Charity is class-warfare (which is treason, of course).
7. With all the hordes of dirty little jobless thieves, the corporation will be run out of business, leading to world destruction.
but didn't we learn that electricity is also better when individuals can produce their own and also sell it back to the utility? In that same way broadband is better off if everyone can compete for customers.
There is a fundamental difference between electric, internet, and water services. I think our public water system is fantastic. I do not want to have shop around between three water pipes coming into my house which are all ultimately controlled by the same guy. But, while I'd buy my neighbors solar power, I wouldn't buy his dish water. And just how do you suppose that I sell broadband back to my ISP? It'd be neat if my neighbors set up an ad-hoc network with our wireless routers, but there's no way that the ISP would pay me for that connection. As for electric services, there are public companies and private companies, but it's very much debatable whether deregulation was a good idea. It allowed for Enron to make a lot of money for a little while, and royally screwed over California. And while you're touting the smartgrid about as the way of the future, it took regulation to get the power companies to install the hardware to enable it and it's regulations that forces them to buy it from you.
It would be WONDERFUL if everyone could compete for customers. I'd be happy if ANYONE was competing with the ISPs in my last three locations. But really, the bar to entry is so high that even major telcom companies whine that they need subsidies to lay down lines.
Sure perhaps the government can help bring broadband to truly rural areas, but the best thing they can do for broadband for the rest of us is regulate there can be no regulation - to let providers spring up where there is a need, like a single cable company that does not serve a region well.
Yes, this is a good thing. EXCEPT where the powers that be would use anti-competitive practices to undermine such efforts. Like telcom companies killing municipal wi-fi, motor companies killing public transportation, or Walmart killing off mom&pop shops.
So you'll have to accept that the public sector is another form of competition. When things get so bad that a critical mass of the populace would rather a leviathan like the government provide a service, bureaucracy and all, then the free market has failed them and the private sector will have to compete with the public sector. (or be regulated, or be privatized). You may not trust the government, but I don't trust big business.
And remember that competition will not flourish where natural monopolies exist. There's only one river going through town, there is a reason that the state owns it. Where there is a limited resource that everyone needs to use, an official body needs to govern it's use, like a government.
Indubitably. Provide a capitalist with a public service that benefits everyone, and in a week he'll have shouted for deregulation and the free market, taken over said service, and then charged the public for the privilege of using his exclusive private service.
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Social Justice: When a conservative gets robbed
(come on now, blind party loyalty isn't getting us anywhere. Put down the froth and let's work solutions.)
Indeed, if either my immediate supervisor or the big boss discovers I'm an atheist democrat with game nights Sunday through Tuesday it won't matter if I've worked like a dog for them or if I browse slashdot at work.... so, you know, hopefully they don't scan internet traffic for keywords...
"If your current career paid you zero dollars, would you keep doing it out of loyalty?"
Yes, I love to code. I'd code up a bunch of little toys I enjoy and tools that would help me in my daily life. In fact I'd probably give away everything I made for myself, in some sort of open or free manner. Luckily, by sheer fate, no one enjoys coding business applications enough, and so my boss is willing to pay me to do it. I'd rather be coding other things, but I do need to pay the rent.
If computer AI overlords takes over the programming industry, then I would still make programs and give them away for free. I'd label it as "Authentic organic HAND-MADE" code and cater to luddites. I'd also find another job, but I'd still follow my first love.
I thought those huge blades were very difficult to manufacture and transport. I know for something this expensive they can customize a barge and do something special at the port, but I'm surprised this didn't give local producers an edge. And while I considered myself knowledgeable about the waking dragon, I'm somewhat surprised that they have the manufacturing chops to produce something this "high tech". I guess it's another feather in their hat that their businessmen can arrange this sort of deal. With Texas no less.
The Russians would have developed the bomb with or without them spying on us. How long it would have taken them is debatable, but largely besides the point. Likewise, as technology spreads, the world shrinks, and global prosperity lifts everyone up, anybody will eventually be able to cheaply reproduce the technology of today. It's simply a matter of whether they'll be copying our innovation of today or innovating their own ideas tomorrow.
I hope we'll have moved on by then. It's almost like it's a race with no finish line.
And you actually CAN find video controlled R/C planes in the USA, but you'll have to talk to a hobbyist. Sure, it's a little scary to think that anyone could strap a brick of C-4 to it and have a cruise missile, but if those sort of people have C-4 in the first place you've already got a problem. Hell, you have a problem if you allow for the genesis of "those sort of people". They just don't' wake up one day and decide to start a terrorist cell.
Oh yes, because the only way that "non-hardcore-gamer" people ever buy games is to trust whatever billboard they happen to glance at, or infomercial, or newspaper add, or In-product placement, or popup ad, or etc etc etc. Heaven forbid that they hear about something cool from a friend and go check it out. No No No, the consumer is an unthinking beast of routine and drudgery, but if sufficient audio/visual stimulous is applied, monetary sums can be extracted from it's cold burnted out shell of a former sentient being. And we all know there's nothing out there that would comment or critique our products. Such an establishment would cost far too much to build and maintain.
So move along you cattle, there's nothing to see here as we purchased your viewing rights a long time ago.
But I would be RIGHT. I would have exercised my RIGHTS. They would have been wrong, and they would remember it. When it happens once, it's an oddity, but when it happens every day, they might actually learn. I would have put in that very little bit of effort and helped keep the USA from sliding from the land of good into the land of bad by simply reminding the uppity thugs of the TSA that I am a human being, a citizen, and that I have rights that shall not be trod upon.
Bend over and take it if you want, but I'm a proud citizen of a country I love and I'm sure as hell going to put in the effort to keep it that way.
Sure, the religion of the day encouraged science like the robber-barons encouraged the whore houses of skid row. Both where developed as a side-effect to the main goal they were aiming to achieve. At best they did indeed fund the sciences, but this is rare. Neutrally they let the scientifically minded to their own. And at worst they exiled or burned them, which is also rare. Currently though, most religions are more of a hinderer of science rather then supporting it.
I do agree that religion in some form is always going to be there as some people feel the need for it, and would go crazy without it. errr, crazier. Getting rid of organized religion, specifically theocracies, now that would be a good move, although difficult.
Earth has been rejecting babies based on their genes for quite a while now. It's usually the retarded ones that can't breath or such. And I've heard an equal amount of FUD from people complaining that we're stopping natural selection by saving premature babies.
But as far as stopping evolution, I'm pretty sure we're already there. We have sufficient outbreeding to stabilize the genes of the human race and inbreeding is quite the rarity. If you want to really accelerate evolutionary rate, you inbreed for freak recessive traits. We don't do that on the whole. (interbreeding? wtf?)
And COME ON! Blue eye and blonde hair are always the examples that people give. Both of which are recessive traits of the minority. You're just spouting the fears initiated by the NAZIs and their crazy ideas. If you get one dark trait in the mix, dark will eventually dominate. Worrying that we're cutting off the genetic branch of the brown eyes is simply ignorant.
Now now, what did we learn in 2000? Something about bubbles?
Listen people, no matter how fucked up your hair is or how punkish your attitude, you still need to be able to provide some purpose to society eventually. You can't keep living off unwise investors forever. As I understand it, his master plan is to get enough addicts hooked onto instant messaging from major cooperations and then charge the corporations access to the twit drones, suffering the people that send useful messages (all 0.001% of them) as the sole justification for the whole system.
But I think twats are twitting because it makes them feel like they're broadcasting to everyone. It's like a blog without all the work.
FINALLY the wave that ZZT started is really picking up steam with Little-Big Planets. And Myth 1,2,&3. And Unreal Tournament (and such). And Civ 1,2,3,&4. And Thief 1,2,&3. And Tenchu2. And everything by Blizzard. And counter strike, but I'm not sure you can really count that as it started as a fan-made branch from half-life.
Fan-made art and sound are more rare, but fan-made levels are, well, a common feature now. Those game without one, and some form of downloading the top ten maps/whatever, have significantly less replay value. The designers and writers simply cannot match the bulk that the crowd can manage. And if it's open and free, the crowd can even weed out the crap for you.
For pretty plotty games like Prince of Persia and Metal Gear however, the majority of what the gamer is buying cannot be remixed for more fun. Where gameplay is key, that can be re-mixed endlessly, and plot can be laid on top.
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I'm not exactly a boozehound, but I drink now and then. That said, I've mixed booze with games exactly once*, and that was because the social aspect was more important then the game. Does anyone actually go drinking and participate in games where their mental facilities were put to the test? I've heard of chess-boxing, but chess as a drinking game? Nawwwwww.
*darts and pool are the exception, as it's something to do in a bar, and yeah, motor skills suffer.
**And fencing drunk doesn't count either, it's a sport. (btw, our armorer is an undefeated drunken master)
use-case scenario?
Well sure, it's a reasonable concern.
So put it outside. Sure this is a bit like a rural propane tank, but it serves essentially the same purpose.
But why exactly are you more afraid of a battery then a tank of gas? Gasoline is a great energy source for vehicles because the extractable energy is so dense. Throw in a match and there will be a fire. If that tank gets a leak, it will fill the room with explosive fumes.
I don't think it's that much more dangerous so much as you've become desensitized to the danger of gasoline, and have learned to mitigate the risks.
Why in, any environment, should the chicken be forced to reveal that recipe?
When he augments the ancient recipe with the GPL'd technique of poaching eggs.
Or when there's sufficient enough evidence that the recipe calls for chicken strips and the roost lords demand that they reveal the recipe to them in a cannibalism trial. (but that would be in "confidence", and it wouldn't be open source)
pft! All that's nothing compared to the innovative lads from the unregulated finance industry! They "invented" a "process" which turned turd loans into "shiny diamond" loans! Give them a break, they're generating wealth!
then ensured all the health-care companies and insurers got their pre-socialism hush-money
cherry picking arguments like like saying Obama was perfectly truthful because of:
"We passed the recovery plan" - Barack Obama, Feb 24th in a speech to congress.
So I'd have to agree with moogled; vague political statement that has no sources. Cite something other then Socialist!? RAAAAGE! and I'll think it over, but until then it's just hot air.
Plus there's always the danger of some nutjob seeking a lead based solution to his political discontent....
What is it with conservatives alluding to the assassination of Obama and then trailing off? I've had extended family members do this repeatedly too. It's like they hope for it, but don't want to come out and actually say it.
You specifically, and people like you, need to calm down, take a breath, and then criticize. When you rant like this it only degrades your argument and the only people that will agree with you already share your sentiment. And your criticizm needs more meat. For example, rather then $1.1 trillion on a whim, you could explain what you're talking about. Or maybe provide a link.
Personally, I like the guy. He's not the second coming of Jesus, but he and his ideas aren't nearly as bad as some people portray. I could argue against you, but I just don't see the point if you're just going to blindly spew rage.
Don't get me wrong, I actually like the sun, but isn't it somewhat... suspicious?.. that these solar flares have started up.. right around the time when global warming is threatening to kill us all?
A little hard to do that from jail.
First off, that scenario was never implied or referenced by parent.
Secondly, the parent expressly pointed out that "You're the admin, you're responsible!" and that is how your peers and future employers will see it. So no, the idiot is not solely responsible for being handed a loaded gun.
I'm pretty sure that we have the right to simply quit working. Thankfully, the alternative isn't the case.
ah the path to US conservative ideology:
1. Assume that anything that doesn't benefit the corporation is theft.
2. The dirty little thieves don't have real jobs.
3. Flatout blatant thievery (under which bending the EULA falls) is a choice that places the blame solely on the dirty little jobless thief.
4. The prosecution of the dirty little jobless thieves is inevitable and only a matter of time.
6. Charity is class-warfare (which is treason, of course).
7. With all the hordes of dirty little jobless thieves, the corporation will be run out of business, leading to world destruction.
no no no, that's a french thing of some sort. We need an AMERICAN international police force.... yeah, that's the ticket.
but didn't we learn that electricity is also better when individuals can produce their own and also sell it back to the utility? In that same way broadband is better off if everyone can compete for customers.
There is a fundamental difference between electric, internet, and water services. I think our public water system is fantastic. I do not want to have shop around between three water pipes coming into my house which are all ultimately controlled by the same guy. But, while I'd buy my neighbors solar power, I wouldn't buy his dish water. And just how do you suppose that I sell broadband back to my ISP? It'd be neat if my neighbors set up an ad-hoc network with our wireless routers, but there's no way that the ISP would pay me for that connection. As for electric services, there are public companies and private companies, but it's very much debatable whether deregulation was a good idea. It allowed for Enron to make a lot of money for a little while, and royally screwed over California. And while you're touting the smartgrid about as the way of the future, it took regulation to get the power companies to install the hardware to enable it and it's regulations that forces them to buy it from you.
It would be WONDERFUL if everyone could compete for customers. I'd be happy if ANYONE was competing with the ISPs in my last three locations. But really, the bar to entry is so high that even major telcom companies whine that they need subsidies to lay down lines.
Sure perhaps the government can help bring broadband to truly rural areas, but the best thing they can do for broadband for the rest of us is regulate there can be no regulation - to let providers spring up where there is a need, like a single cable company that does not serve a region well.
Yes, this is a good thing. EXCEPT where the powers that be would use anti-competitive practices to undermine such efforts. Like telcom companies killing municipal wi-fi, motor companies killing public transportation, or Walmart killing off mom&pop shops.
So you'll have to accept that the public sector is another form of competition. When things get so bad that a critical mass of the populace would rather a leviathan like the government provide a service, bureaucracy and all, then the free market has failed them and the private sector will have to compete with the public sector. (or be regulated, or be privatized). You may not trust the government, but I don't trust big business.
And remember that competition will not flourish where natural monopolies exist. There's only one river going through town, there is a reason that the state owns it. Where there is a limited resource that everyone needs to use, an official body needs to govern it's use, like a government.
Indubitably. Provide a capitalist with a public service that benefits everyone, and in a week he'll have shouted for deregulation and the free market, taken over said service, and then charged the public for the privilege of using his exclusive private service.
--
Social Justice: When a conservative gets robbed
(come on now, blind party loyalty isn't getting us anywhere. Put down the froth and let's work solutions.)
Indeed, if either my immediate supervisor or the big boss discovers I'm an atheist democrat with game nights Sunday through Tuesday it won't matter if I've worked like a dog for them or if I browse slashdot at work. ... so, you know, hopefully they don't scan internet traffic for keywords...
"If your current career paid you zero dollars, would you keep doing it out of loyalty?"
Yes, I love to code. I'd code up a bunch of little toys I enjoy and tools that would help me in my daily life. In fact I'd probably give away everything I made for myself, in some sort of open or free manner. Luckily, by sheer fate, no one enjoys coding business applications enough, and so my boss is willing to pay me to do it. I'd rather be coding other things, but I do need to pay the rent.
If computer AI overlords takes over the programming industry, then I would still make programs and give them away for free. I'd label it as "Authentic organic HAND-MADE" code and cater to luddites. I'd also find another job, but I'd still follow my first love.
I thought those huge blades were very difficult to manufacture and transport. I know for something this expensive they can customize a barge and do something special at the port, but I'm surprised this didn't give local producers an edge. And while I considered myself knowledgeable about the waking dragon, I'm somewhat surprised that they have the manufacturing chops to produce something this "high tech". I guess it's another feather in their hat that their businessmen can arrange this sort of deal. With Texas no less.
Come ON people! Get it together!
The Russians would have developed the bomb with or without them spying on us. How long it would have taken them is debatable, but largely besides the point. Likewise, as technology spreads, the world shrinks, and global prosperity lifts everyone up, anybody will eventually be able to cheaply reproduce the technology of today. It's simply a matter of whether they'll be copying our innovation of today or innovating their own ideas tomorrow.
I hope we'll have moved on by then. It's almost like it's a race with no finish line.
And you actually CAN find video controlled R/C planes in the USA, but you'll have to talk to a hobbyist. Sure, it's a little scary to think that anyone could strap a brick of C-4 to it and have a cruise missile, but if those sort of people have C-4 in the first place you've already got a problem. Hell, you have a problem if you allow for the genesis of "those sort of people". They just don't' wake up one day and decide to start a terrorist cell.
So move along you cattle, there's nothing to see here as we purchased your viewing rights a long time ago.
But I would be RIGHT. I would have exercised my RIGHTS. They would have been wrong, and they would remember it. When it happens once, it's an oddity, but when it happens every day, they might actually learn. I would have put in that very little bit of effort and helped keep the USA from sliding from the land of good into the land of bad by simply reminding the uppity thugs of the TSA that I am a human being, a citizen, and that I have rights that shall not be trod upon.
Bend over and take it if you want, but I'm a proud citizen of a country I love and I'm sure as hell going to put in the effort to keep it that way.
"encouraging the development"
Sure, the religion of the day encouraged science like the robber-barons encouraged the whore houses of skid row. Both where developed as a side-effect to the main goal they were aiming to achieve. At best they did indeed fund the sciences, but this is rare. Neutrally they let the scientifically minded to their own. And at worst they exiled or burned them, which is also rare. Currently though, most religions are more of a hinderer of science rather then supporting it.
I do agree that religion in some form is always going to be there as some people feel the need for it, and would go crazy without it. errr, crazier. Getting rid of organized religion, specifically theocracies, now that would be a good move, although difficult.
But as far as stopping evolution, I'm pretty sure we're already there. We have sufficient outbreeding to stabilize the genes of the human race and inbreeding is quite the rarity. If you want to really accelerate evolutionary rate, you inbreed for freak recessive traits. We don't do that on the whole. (interbreeding? wtf?)
And COME ON! Blue eye and blonde hair are always the examples that people give. Both of which are recessive traits of the minority. You're just spouting the fears initiated by the NAZIs and their crazy ideas. If you get one dark trait in the mix, dark will eventually dominate. Worrying that we're cutting off the genetic branch of the brown eyes is simply ignorant.
Now now, what did we learn in 2000? Something about bubbles? Listen people, no matter how fucked up your hair is or how punkish your attitude, you still need to be able to provide some purpose to society eventually. You can't keep living off unwise investors forever. As I understand it, his master plan is to get enough addicts hooked onto instant messaging from major cooperations and then charge the corporations access to the twit drones, suffering the people that send useful messages (all 0.001% of them) as the sole justification for the whole system. But I think twats are twitting because it makes them feel like they're broadcasting to everyone. It's like a blog without all the work.
FINALLY the wave that ZZT started is really picking up steam with Little-Big Planets. And Myth 1,2,&3. And Unreal Tournament (and such). And Civ 1,2,3,&4. And Thief 1,2,&3. And Tenchu2. And everything by Blizzard. And counter strike, but I'm not sure you can really count that as it started as a fan-made branch from half-life. Fan-made art and sound are more rare, but fan-made levels are, well, a common feature now. Those game without one, and some form of downloading the top ten maps/whatever, have significantly less replay value. The designers and writers simply cannot match the bulk that the crowd can manage. And if it's open and free, the crowd can even weed out the crap for you. For pretty plotty games like Prince of Persia and Metal Gear however, the majority of what the gamer is buying cannot be remixed for more fun. Where gameplay is key, that can be re-mixed endlessly, and plot can be laid on top.